I recently got the Q20 used and the previous owner thought it better to reset it. The complete setup notification was so annoying primarily because I am using it for calls and messages and unnecessary notification light or buzz just irks me until I check it. Thankfully though, I found a hack on how you can turn on reader mode and when you go to the network page where it usually gets stuck, the reader will read out various options including skip and you can skip it then, same thing for one of the last steps in the process. Once I did that, I haven't faced the setup notification again and it feels so much better now haha great video and comparison, I thought about getting a Q10 but couldnt find one in as good condition/price as the Q20, but im really happy with the Q20
Thank you so much for this tip! I am going to try it out straight away. The notification drives me nuts after a while. Especially as someone who was addicted to checking their phone anyway.
@@LauraMalvoyante I feel ya!! In the beginning I thought I could live with it but after a couple of days it just started frustrating me too much I followed the instructions on this video ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VMFKJpxEIn4.htmlfeature=shared But there's other videos like it as well. The process itself was p simple and took me 4-5 tries because I missed the touch input timing smh but all in all took 15 minutes and now I live in peace knowing I won't get that darn notification again haha
@@TashfeenBukhari thank you so much for sharing this tip! I finally got around to doing it today and I no longer have the setup notification 🎉 It took a few tries and I kept making simple mistakes. I may do a tutorial on it myself to better explain to people so they don't lose time on the nuance of each step. I will also test this method on my Q10.
@@LauraMalvoyante I'm so glad to hear that!! 😄 Anyone who owns a Classic or any BB OS 10 phone could benefit from this. I know how annoying that notification can be and can turn people away from the phone itself (nearly made me stop using the phone haha) so please do make and upload a video about this tip so more BB device owners can be aware 😌 Edit: Just saw your video and it's so good and explains things in such a clear way. Great video!
I'd honestly prefer the actual blackberry os with developer support for apps. If it could be updated with a 2024 refresh and have all the apps I need, I'd pay any amount of money
True, but I am happy to see someone give these phones a second look… when I look at these phones I am always reminded of the limitations of modern economies or civilisations. I think people still like these types phones but they’re not many enough to make business sense. So, I have to ask is there or, can there be a nonprofit organisation that can offer new phones of this type? Or a business that can operate on slim profile margins to produce phones like these?
There are some communities that still use these phones, they find solutions to bugs like the one you mentioned and exchange programs that still work today. Yes, it is the father of smartphones, and it is a shame that it was discontinued.
1) Blackberries aren't dumb phones, they were and remain designed as secure, productivity devices -- especially important in this age of constant distraction. 2) BB10's heyday has gone and past especially with respect to the App World, but it's still arguably the most secure "smartphone" OS available. (Point being, BB10 was when BB wasn't just a productivity device and it had more entertainment than BB7 devices including Amazon apps, but was still the paramount of security). Circa 2020 BB's CEO John Chen stated as much and was the only device authorized for HQ employee use in their evolving business of IoT security... 3) Android 4 apps can still be sideloaded AFAIK, and some App World apps APKs are also in the wild. 4) Yes, the Q10 is a better form factor than Q20, and roughly same form factor as the Blackberry Bold that also had the toolbelt. Ran the Bold until the shutdown as my primary for a decade... The toolbelt on the Classic is clutch however -- but also don't forget BB first had "gestures" in BB10/Q10 that controlled on an Android 4 system, when Google didn't have gestures until Android 9 IIRC (and the newest BB devices -- Key 2/Key 2LE -- both capped out at Android 8.1, so never saw the gestures functions). 5) You're lucky you're in Europe where using old devices don't get you booted from networks. In the US, that's a thing... Some old BB enthusiasts are using UK/EU sims to keep on keeping on. 6) BB10's Hub is and remains awesome tech, and it's unfortunate that most calendar and contact syncs no longer work. I think gmail email still works, but the rest -- not so much. The loss of consistent calendar and contact sync is a "bridge too far" for day to use for me... YMMV.
Hey, your channel is great! Keep up the good work! I have a number of Blackberries, Q10, Classic and Passport. Tried them again as daily drivers but sadly, they are slow... However, I miss the time when I used them all the time
@@mauricioreyes3372 I think BBOS7 could be considered more secure than BB10 becuase you cqnnot sideload third party apps like you still can with BB10. Both are still a lot more secure than Android and iOS devices nowadays
I love how the internet provides useful information like this. I haven't thought about Blackberries for years until today, and I found this perfect video when I needed.
I am still using my Q10 in 2024 mainly for to-do lists / tasks in the calendar. Aside from my computer I prefer to type emails on my Q10 (as opposed to my iPhone). I have a Key2 and Priv stored away. I like the Priv a lot and if it had an updated OS, I would use it as a daily driver. I don’t think I will ever get rid of my Q10. I like the form factor. I have it in a nice black Otter case too just to protect it and the case also makes the phone feel even more robust.
I am glad to know you still use your Q10 over the Key2 and Priv. I love the Q10 for notes and as an MP3 player. I had a Priv and it was a really unique and amazing device. Unfortunately I have it away. I was considering getting a Key2 but the prices are too high. If I find one under $200 I would get one.
Amazing! Thanks for the review, is amazing know the pros and cons of this phones, im looking to use one as my dumbphone and you help me to decide wich one.
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
I can't tell you how much I miss the Q10 and Classic. The OS, when it was being supported, was a delight. In 2024, it's hard to imagine being unable to use Google Maps on my phone, though.
Hopefully Blackberry model like Classic comeback with modern fitur... That will be awesome... I need phone like that... So memorial if still alive ... My BB classic just keep in library because we can use more the moment
I am the same way with the sensitivity . It took me forever to get a hold onto matte screwn protector... I miss phones that got the judge done, and they lasted for days at a time.
I have an older BlackBerry around here somewhere. I was going to try to find it but TMobile said it wouldn’t work. Did you have any problems? Also I don’t have a cord to charge the phone. Do you know where I can find one ? Thank you for this video. I loved it.
Like you I am visually impaired so the Blackberry I use is the DTek 60, it is android so it will work with Google apps and it has a IPS display of around 5.5 inches so it can fit in my pocket easily and the sound from it's two speakers is amazing. I still have my Z30 device which again is android a d performs well in a modern world for those of us who need Blackberry in our lives.
I LOVED the physical qwerty keyboard design on the Blackberry phones, one of the best models I had was the Torch 9810 (slider). However, my MAIN use for a phone is WhatsApp (all friends and family are on it), and well, Blackberry and WhatsApp... Non existent... IF, Unihertz was able to take the keyboard design licence from Blackberry, THEN, I MIGHT consider going for a Titan/Titan mini or whatever... 🤔😏 😎🇬🇧
Yes I use WhatsApp too for all my communication with family and friends in France. I use it mostly on my desktop and tablet these days. I don't need it as much as I thought I did and since I work from home the Blackberry is enough for my texting and calling needs. If anyone gets the right to use BlackBerry keyboards for their device they will have a lot of customers lined up, myself included 😄
The setup loop is happening because the devices need to connect to BlackBerry servers to complete. The servers were shut down years ago so it can never complete. I wiped and reset one device just before the shutdown and never touched the other. On the second device I can still see old BBM chats that are saved on-device. Memories ❤
But how can you still use it? I think I'd piss people off if I tried to. Plus I do use Android Auto every day. Lol, maybe I'll give my passport a go. I do miss my pkb.
I’ve frequently had pangs of regret since being forced to give up my Passport when the carriers kicked us all off. Let me try again to understand what you’re saying. Do you mean to say that a Passport could be used for voice and text without BB servers? If the carrier doesn’t provide SIM how do you get a phone number? Or phone/text service? I guess I can connect to WiFi, right? Does that help? My Red Passport was my ATF!
I still use a P9983 (q10) but the phone is very slow. The Classic is also a nice walk around phone. As of today, Bb10 only performs good on the q30 (passport)
Like my Q10, but my email provider (in Germany) no longer supports BB. Surfing the net has also become extremely limited. Many sites will not open. Too bad. Nice phone. Nice paperweight (at least for me).
They are about the same as far as the battery life is concerned. They last around 2 days with average use. The Q10 has a removable battery and you can change it easily or swap batteries if you are a heavy user.
@@LauraMalvoyanteand one more thing! How long will the battery last of i turn on 4g hotspot to connect my laptop to it for internet? On both devices, will it last a day??
BB7 OS, more productivity, less entertainment, better tool belt. .... funny that the classic really isn't "classic". I sold my classic in 2015 after 4 mos of use, went back to the bold 9900
3 days ago i ordered bb classic on ebay. I'm live in saudi but i ordered sqc 100 1 is it work here? Also if i buy it can i use for msg and call include internet? Please explain me thank you
10 years ago, I liked my Blackberry, wouldn't use it these days Apple iPhones Pro all the way now....wouldn't go back, but in it's hay day Blackberries were great
I see the Classic SCQ100-1 and that is Bands for USA Canada and the Q10 SQN100-3 Bands for UK. Anyway how did you get it to connect to voice service. Here is the USA I got AT&T to work by putting sim in another phone. But no voice. I use the Q5 on my horse as it is small light very easy to use. And I can afford to drop it. The Magic is in the keys. No endless swiping up down searching for that app. I also got a Unihertz Pocket and the Q5 blows it away.
I live in France and the carriers still support 2g and 3g bands for voice and texting. It probably won't work for many years for me but it should be functional until the end of 2025.
It's really a beautiful phone. I love Blackberry and I will never stop using them. I don't use any social media anymore either so this phone is perfect for those who want to enjoy their life away from a screen.
The BB10 devices can still do call and texting. They use 4g networks. The newer BB devices like Keyone and Key2 use android and have more options for apps. I am not sure about carrier support because I live in France. I buy devices that are unlocked and they seem to work okay as far as carrier issues.
Please can you tell me ebay is the safe site for purchase blackberry classic Q10. I want to buy it. Seller says its brand new device with sealed box. All accessories available. The cost of this phone $103. Please can you tell me is this genuine site for purchase????
I bought mine on eBay with no issues for $40. Mine was used with no accessories and it works fine. I haven't had issues but it depends on the seller. Check their rating and buy from good rated sellers if possible.
The phone should work fine but you may get stuck with an annoying notification to complete the setup process. If that happens check out this link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7tu1VMWNGZU.htmlsi=3P6sdFP-CcxatIyC
Look at here I’m still trying to find somebody to pick up my blackberry torch. I got a lot of movies in lotta stuff on my blackberry torch and it still work very very well. Matter fact, I trying to get a carrier USA and they said that they cannot work with the blackberry torch, and is six dollars a month so therefore, please help me out with my blackberry torch
I don't think it's possible to use the BlackBerry torch in the USA anymore. They don't support 2g or 3g bands anymore. You can still use it for music or movies on wifi as a companion device maybe?
@@LauraMalvoyante nah sorry but i can't believe this, if they maintained high standards, I think they would have won against Apple, what you said is just an excuse that makes no sense from the head of Blackberry
@@LauraMalvoyante i hope they will come back and destroy the industry that all they do is making money from the incapacity of people of seeing the truth
I couldn't connect my Gmail in the accounts but I can access Gmail via the browser. Apparently BlackBerry no longer meets Google's security criteria (logical since the phones no longer get security updates or OS updates)
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
I have an older BlackBerry around here somewhere. I was going to try to find it but TMobile said it wouldn’t work. Did you have any problems? Also I don’t have a cord to charge the phone. Do you know where I can find one ? Thank you for this video. I loved it.
I think older BlackBerry phones (BB10 and older) no longer work in the US. I am living in France and the BlackBerry 10 devices need 3g for calling. They do use 4g for data. I have found BlackBerry chargers on eBay for cheap. Thank you so much for watching!
From what I have found out.. the “ complete setup “ happens after you have reset and bypassed the phone.. if you brought it and it had not been wiped you wouldn’t have this problem. Annoyingly. Love your videos about blackberry! Using the key 2 le and the blackberry classic as my personals :D
This is what I thought. It's annoying but it doesn't stop me from using either device. I want to try the Key one or key2. Whichever I can find for a good price 😅
@@LauraMalvoyante exactly.. my passport was giving me the same reminder so I got the classic and the owner had not reset it. I wish the bold 9780 /9700 was able to use 4g :( the leather back had me hooked!
@@LauraMalvoyante passport is stunning little big though.. classic and q10 are perfect everyday runners so you’ve got me looking for a q10 as I haven’t got one yet for my Collection.. nice to know there are still people missing this device.. mostly BBM.
