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Blackhorn 209: Is it corrosive?! (didn’t clean my muzzleloader for a week) 

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Become a Channel Member! / @masonoutdoors_masonle... If you’re new to muzzleloaders or Blackhorn 209 you might be wondering what happens if you don’t clean your muzzleloader right after shooting it.
In this video I’ve gone to the range with my CVA Optima V2 .50 caliber muzzleloader to get it zeroed in preparation for Texas’ late muzzleloader season and intentionally did not clean it for an entire week to see whether or not there would be any rust, pitting or other corrosion.
Is Blackhorn 209 truly non-corrosive? Watch to find out!
Happy Hunting!
Lee Mason, Mason Leather

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@masonoutdoors_masonleather
@masonoutdoors_masonleather Месяц назад
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@nomanmcshmoo8640
@nomanmcshmoo8640 9 месяцев назад
Thank you for this video! This is exactly the type of info I have been looking for. I am a Sharps Rifle type of guy and I have been very curios about Blackhorn 209 and you have answered all of my questions about this powder.
@MidnightMaro
@MidnightMaro Год назад
It amazes me how much you can talk and talk fast without having any stuttering or interruptions in your speech..
@masonoutdoors_masonleather
@masonoutdoors_masonleather Год назад
Haha it’s harder than it looks that’s for sure!
@wesleyharding7544
@wesleyharding7544 11 месяцев назад
At $89 for 10oz, nope!
@taurushipointenthusiast1306
@taurushipointenthusiast1306 Месяц назад
Humidity & Moisture play a huge Role in the rusting. That is for black powder as well as the pyrodex on the market.
@kfelix2934
@kfelix2934 8 месяцев назад
I'm also in TX . i never have used BH209 and my MZL days are limited or I do not do as much here as what I did in SE FLA. Once my triple7s is depleted, I will probably buy some BH209. Great video btw.
@skibum1610
@skibum1610 Год назад
An easy fix for the dirty back end of the plug and the firing pin is using an o right to make a gas seal between the primer and the breech plug
@aarokapakka7411
@aarokapakka7411 Год назад
Always wanted a muzzleloader, maybe some day
@texascelt8363
@texascelt8363 Год назад
I used to use pyrodex that stuff will rust quick. I now make my own black powder with the homemade Black powder i can let it set several days without rust in my regular blued steel barrels and days and days in my stainless rifles the homemade is the only way i will ever go now and at $6.00 a pound to make i dont have to worry about the cost
@coolace42
@coolace42 Год назад
Went from shorts to video, i most certainly am a fan. Am i ready for powder, or do i need to set up my reload station.
@henryschekter2328
@henryschekter2328 9 месяцев назад
Blackhorn 209 brand solvent works great.
@brucelewis1017
@brucelewis1017 Год назад
After you clean it you can go ahead and use steaming hot water and run some patches threw it with bore butter or trippers pure mink oil from track of the wolf it'll be easier to clean next time
@BuckskinsBlackPowder
@BuckskinsBlackPowder Год назад
Bh209 uses solvent based cleaners like your regular center fire. Bore butter is garbage
@ChangLee-y5t
@ChangLee-y5t 17 дней назад
I shoot 6 inch groups at 550 yards with my cva wolf v2
@ChangLee-y5t
@ChangLee-y5t 17 дней назад
Soapy water is best way to clean hands down
@BuckskinsBlackPowder
@BuckskinsBlackPowder Год назад
Bh209 is corrosive to a certain degree. Nowhere near as pyrodex or real black. Bh209 contains sulfur. Any moisture in the air is easily attracted to bh209 fouling and theres where you may get sone rust from.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 9 месяцев назад
it says to use oil and avoid water based cleaners.
@ditchdigger93
@ditchdigger93 Год назад
I own four muzzleloaders, one being a pistol. It has always amazed me why someone hasn't come out with a propellent that is non-corrosive period. Maybe there is some law that prevents this, as we seem to be neck deep in stupid laws. But with the range now we've got in modern powders it is strange that no one can match black powder pressures and come out with a non-corrosive powder that is safe to use in a front stuffer. That Black Horn 209 seems to be about as close as you can get to one, but as if yet I've never seen a bottle of it on the shelf and the price on the stuff is nothing less that ridiculous if you can find it.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 9 месяцев назад
Watch the RU-vid video titled "Self-Ejecting Muzzleloader Safety Cartridge: Product Debut (short version)". I am now looking for a company to mass-produce my invention, which is what you and many others seem to be searching for. I am a retired Science teacher that builds Smokeless Muzzleloaders capable of shooting a 300-grain bullet at Mach 3. I understand muzzleloaders and pressure. Corrosive propellants are one of the best things for companies that sell muzzleloaders. Why? Look down the barrel of a muzzleloader which has not been completely cleaned and you will see the answer. Savage Arms proved over 20 years ago that the right kind and amount of Smokeless Powder can be used in a Muzzleloader. My invention matches the propellant to the bullet, which takes the guess work out of the equation for the average hunter.
@toomanyaccounts
@toomanyaccounts 9 месяцев назад
IMR white hots are non corrosive. a number of cowboy rounds such as 38 Smith and Wesson for old guns made by several manufactures use non corrosive black powder substitute and state so on the box. its just corrosive black powder or even substitute is far cheaper to make and sell for a major profit.
@Bobby-od2yf
@Bobby-od2yf 10 месяцев назад
Try this with thriple 777 3 f i have left on clean for over a couple months and washes off but if stored in wet environment rust will start build but i think its less corrosive then bh209 i like black hotn better because you can load shoot any round and not clean in between thriple 777 bout 5 rounds it has crud ring but power belts will load over and over
@muleskinner3524
@muleskinner3524 10 месяцев назад
Good job
@jeffhays1968
@jeffhays1968 Год назад
Why modern muzzle loaders are almost all coming in stainless steel now.
@ReelinTension
@ReelinTension 11 месяцев назад
How do you like the optima and Leopold set up? Looking for a real world 200 yard hunting set up
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 9 месяцев назад
Based on the MSD Sheet for the product, it is about 15% Guanidine Mononitrate which is a corrosive oxidizer. It is also about 83% Nitrocellulose, which is the main ingredient in Smokeless Powders. Therefore, it is a hybrid propellant that is less corrosive, but not completely non-corrosive.
@ditchdigger93
@ditchdigger93 9 месяцев назад
Correct. There is NO noncorrosive black powder substitutes as of yet. Why? I have no idea. With the range of burn rates now available in modern smokeless powders you'd think they could come up with one slow enough to be safely used in a muzzleloader. OR a muzzleloader safe to use with some modern smokeless powder that already exists.
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo 9 месяцев назад
@@ditchdigger93 I plan to make a DVD in the near future on low pressure smokeless loads for modern muzzleloaders which use 209 ignition. If you weigh out the correct powder and use the correct weight of projectile, it is not rocket science. Many people reload shotgun shells with smokeless powder, and the barrel on a shotgun is much thinner than that on a muzzleloader.
@luvmechanix
@luvmechanix 6 месяцев назад
Guanidine is bird shit lol
@SpotterVideo
@SpotterVideo Месяц назад
@@ditchdigger93 Since BH209 is now selling at North of $120 per pound, I came up with some Low-Pressure Smokeless loads for my factory muzzleloaders. "Low Pressure 50 Caliber Smokeless Loads in a 209 Factory Muzzleloader", 2 DVD set | eBay These 2 DVDs contain a demonstration of using Low Pressure Smokeless Loads in a 50 caliber factory muzzleloader. Savage Arms proved over 20 years ago that a factory muzzleloader can use smokeless powder. A retired Science Teacher/Gunsmith/Inventor used a strain gauge glued to a rifle barrel and the Pressure Trace II computer interface to compare the pressures produced by Blackhorn209 propellant to pressures which can be produced by ten different smokeless powders. These ten smokeless powders do not contain the corrosive oxidizers which can rust a rifle barrel. The loads developed produced a pressure equal to or less than that of 84 grains by weight of Blackhorn209, which a common Black Powder substitute made up of 83% smokeless powder (nitrocellulose). However, Blackhorn209 does contain corrosive chemicals. These loads were then fired in a factory inline muzzleloader with a shank diameter of about one inch. These DVDs are sold for entertainment purposes only. The producer cannot guarantee these loads will work safely in all factory 209 muzzleloaders.
@codytaylor2194
@codytaylor2194 Год назад
Did you have to buy a separate breech plug to run the black horn? It's funny I ordered the exact set up before I even seen your video lol even the leupold freedom muzzeloader scope...I'm trying triple 7 pellets / primers under 250 gr hornady sst
@johntellier2366
@johntellier2366 Год назад
CVA makes a Blackhorn 209 breech that works fantastic with it. I took 2 doe last season at 60 and 106 yds with my CVA muzzleloader 14" pistol and 56 gr by weight of Blackhorn and 250 gr Hornady. Great blood trails. Both dropped after 60 yd run.
@randyjohnson6845
@randyjohnson6845 10 месяцев назад
Did you stainless isn't corrosive..mild steel would have rusted
@johnwall3353
@johnwall3353 9 месяцев назад
Just remember that there are different mixes of alloys that go into stainless steel. Gun barrels are not surgical grades of stainless. Put a magnet on your barrel. If it wants to stick, it wants to, to the non stainless alloys in the steel. I have experienced pyrodex corrosion in a stainless knight barrel from a friend. He was too lazy to clean his gun ever. I cleaned it one day. The barrel is pitted to an extreme I have never seen. Weird though, it still shot well. I have an original remington bp in stainless that I have had since new. I have converted it to use 209 primers a few years ago. I always cleaned it with water and patches and lubricant to store it after it was dry. The bore is as new, mirror finish. I have also switched to bh209 years ago because I was afraid of corrosion. Still clean the same way. The gun is as new. I always kept it loaded all week long during the hunting season in my group even after shooting it. Just removed the primer. Never corroded. Shot it off at a target when hunting was over to see if it would shoot without hang fire. Always shot well, on target.
@sizzy8141
@sizzy8141 Год назад
Giv me ur gun i want to kill crow😁
@snoopandpoop1
@snoopandpoop1 Год назад
Great video. Thanks
@masonoutdoors_masonleather
@masonoutdoors_masonleather Год назад
Absolutely glad you enjoyed!
@deanmccabe8783
@deanmccabe8783 5 месяцев назад
I site mine in before Wis nine day gun season and it stays dirty through the following nine day muzzleloader season as well! Just run a dry parch through it and always clean the breech plug! What primer were you using?
@jacklowe3788
@jacklowe3788 Год назад
I'd still use hot water first- Just shortening the cleaning -
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