i know the clippers arent the lakers but every team they played Blake kicked butt......win lose he dominated at his position......his game at this level has excelled.......man thank u, u have made my day debating who's better my friend......
And almost ten years later, Frank Martin's South Carolina Gamecocks stun assistant coach Jeff Capel and Duke out of the NCAA tourney. Beasley is with the Bucks trying to get his life back on track while Griffin is leading the Clippers through the Playoffs. I love looking back at these old college games and seeing where people are now.
@andergra000 Blake Griffins official efficiency rating is 24.13 while Micheal Beasleys is only 17.81. There is no better way to compare two players but by their efficiency rating which represents how much they contribute to the game
Blake is the better player. Better rebounder, better post player, better finisher, better defender, shot blocker and harder worker. The only thing Beasley has on Griffin is his mid range game.
Beasley is the better basketball player. Because of his versatility and range, I think he will be the better overall NBA player when their careers are done.
I still think michael beasley can be a star, hes only 22, has loads of talent, and just needs to take better shots than he has. he should move back to power forward(even though hes a bit undersized) and PFs cant guard his outside shot.
beasleys calm even now in the nba but he needs to get into the game and little more and have a bigger impact. i think he's trying to settle with being the number 2 guy out there in miami and minnesota. cant wait to c what pullen will do when he gets to the nba. if minnesota's record stays like this maybe they'll b able to draft him. :D
@jdaking1 Yeah that's because at the time Kobe wasnt the best. As of right now Blake Griffin is better. Griffin averages more rebounds, more assists, and a much better field goal percentage. The only thing Beasley has Griffin on is points per game and thats by less then 1 whole point and steals by .1 more steals per game. And Griffin is more powerful inside the paint. Unlike Beasley who is afraid of contact and always fades away from the basket. Beasley doesnt have the full package like Griffin
If it's about the W then it's about the team and not just about B-Easy. They both played well. If they were both in the draft this year they would go 1-2 and it doesn't matter which went first.
Beasley ceiling is almost reached. He won't be much better than this year. This was his best year by far. Griffin has a tremendous ceiling and he's barely touched it.
Beasley has finesse but can take it hard to the hoop. Although, taking it hard to the basket isn't his first option. Griffin, on the other hand, is stronger and is really a post-up player. He has a mid-range jumper but is not so much recognized. He prefers to take it strong to the basket. Both are great just with different styles of gameplay.
Demarcus Cousins is already an outstanding player though, he is a top 5 or 6 center in the league, he just has so much more potential that he could still use.
That 10/14 is very deceiving. Almost all of Griffin's points were 3 feet or closer from the basket and were high percentage shots. Beasley got a lot of his points from mid range jumpers, where Griffin can't shoot well at all.
In their games my friend. I already explained why Griffin is better. Beasley is more skilled (that is why I was referring to) and talented. Griffin has a the better drive and is more consistent.
It looks like blake has to work harder for his points. Beasley looks like he isnt even trying and is killing. If he played like this in the nba he would be nasty. He needs to play inside more.
I think this Heat trade will give Beasley new life. longtime KU fan, saw Griffin, Beasley, and Durant all come through the fieldhouse. I honestly thought Griffin would have the least NBA ceiling than any of them, granted I could immediately tell Durant was gonna be insane, but I thought Beasley was gonna be incredible. I still hate the Heat and this is just going to add to the list, they are the short list of teams that win enough they can pull in guys like this and try to rehab. Fuckin heat.
Blake is a better player but Beasley should come into his own in Minnesota. He's droppin like 20 ppg for the Wolves. I just have questions about Beasley's work ethic and focus. He could (and should) be putting up Kevin Durant type numbers.
a lot of players with potential leave 4 the nba and dont always succeed college is a learning experience y not stay 3 to 4 yrs to get ur game at its peak b4 becoming a rookie not always true but is in some cases it is
@naz8618 I agree. Beasley was playing rather well last season before he kept getting injured. Miami doesn't groom young players well anyway. Besides Wade there is no one else who became a all star under the Miami Heat.
@OU had Taylor, Blake Griffith, Willie Warren(Mcdonalds ALL American) and a slew of other players, so the "Team" offense was very well spread.....this is one of those old "debates" who better? And it really depends on what u like Beasley's "Flash" vs Blake's "Substance".....yes Beasley was one helluva scorer in college and his game was amazing but that hasn't translated to the NBA so much(yes i acknowledge he had a great season, for yet again, this time on the pro level a subpar team)
beasley owned griffin here haha in college b-easy was better than blake, but in the nba its a different story. However i think there both equally talented, beasley with the touch and griffin with the athleticism.
I still hold out hope for Beasley because he still is a scorer. But there is a difference between a scorer and elite player, and xKiDLongBeach is right about motivation. There have been games in Minnesota and Phoenix where you see Beasley and be like, "yeah that's the 2nd pick in the draft right there." Then he disappears for like 3 games straight. He wasn't as tall as he was thought to be, but he's got talent. He has to want it.
I think Beasley has more skilled offensive game, but at the same time Griffin has polished defensive game than Beasley. for example, Beasley can score on more ways than Griffin. Beasley can score on face-to-face situations, he also can score when the defender behind him in post-game. But Griffin can't score independently, just when his teammates set the ball into his hands, or when he grabs the rebounds. But Griffin is a better rebounder, and shotblocker.
@zipplockfresh I read he was working with Kobe this off season in an article. Beasley said he was working on becoming a point forward in his last post game. I think that is what he is going to be working on most of the summer. He wants to be Lebron esque.
true but shooting is very invaluable in the nba which is why Beasley was able to still avg 15 a game despite playing less than 24 mins. He is able to take his man outside and either shoot it or drive. Blake doesn't have that ability b/c scouting report would say just let him shoot. So i think as of right now Beasley is more skilled. I mean just watch the highlights from this video...Beasley obviously outplayed him hitting several jumpers on his face and still being able to drive and do other...
@naz8618 Yeah he played really well in their last game. If he can be consistent then the Timberwolves will be a playoff team no doubt. If he keeps having hit or miss nights all the time then their chances aren't as good. I feel like Beasley is the x factor.
@Ian52093 Yea I believe he is better at power forward as well lol. He just happens to be playing with Kevin Love who is dominating right now. I also think he would have been nice if he didn't go to miami his rookie year. D-Wade takes a lot of shots. Beasley only had 11 shots per game and 13 his soph year. But Blake griffin is doing historical stuff right now. Blake griffin might end up being the best power forward in the game when he develops a consistent mid range jumper.
I'd say other than rebounding it's pretty damn close... Beasley can score from anywhere on the court and he's can take guys off the dribble. Griffin is obviously more athletic but Beasley could still pan out into a monster
Number 1 Beasley is more talented than Griffin. That is a fact not an opinion. Number 2 Beasley didn't get arrested, he got a fine. Number 3 Griffin would have not destroyed Beasley in his sophomore year. Griffin was a beast but Beasley still put up better numbers as a freshman.
@markus1978p Beasley was the more complete player because he did everything (except passing lol). It doesn't matter if he was the focal point of the team. He was the more complete player because he had the ability to score, rebound, block shots, get steals, and do it all at an absurd efficiency. Let's talk pros. How about before Beasley was injured he was averaging 22ppg 6reb 2.2 ast while shooting 48% from the field and 44% from 3.
@TheRexrapper Yea, I agree with that and yea the NBA site fudges the height for some players.. I just want the Beasley from college to show up lol cause in college he dominated at PF
Beasley is one of my fav players, hopefully he can put his drug addiction behind himself and return to the NBA. He needs to mature so that he can reach his true potential, same with DMC
Griffin doesn't just dunk the ball. He has a jump shot that is improving. I have not seen a forward that could defend him yet. Every team doubles and triple teams him. He's averaging 22+ ppg and 12+rpg 3+apg as a rookie. Griffin hasn't even learned how to play and he's that good. Beasley has probably already hit his ceiling. He will not be as good as he is right now. Beasley was great in college, but that was college. Blake has transitioned into the NBA like nothing. He's just a hungrier player
i had a dream that brian scalabrine dunked on blake griffin i was cheering so hard but when i woke up i got so pissed and depressed that i slashed my wrists
i dont think beasley wasbetter just played in a different offense, one where the coach let him go wild, as oppose to blake playing more so for a team orientated offense, which helped him overall, beasley is a good pro, but blake will be HOF
@markus1978p No problem. I like debating about basketball as well. You say Beasley took alot of shots but he only took 17 a game. Kansas State beat Kansas who was the best team that year. Let's not forget that Kansas State wasn't suppose to do well that season. I also didn't just name offensive stats. He put up better defensive numbers also. Even when you watch the 2 go against each other on this video, you can tell Beasley was the more complete player.
@LakerKev From what I hear Beasley has the best work ethic on the team. Now sometimes it seems he checks out during games. He needs to get better at that. The reason Beasley doesn't put up Kevin Durant numbers is because he doesn't get foul calls. He only goes to the line 4 times a game. Kevin durant goes to the line like 8 or 9 times a game. When he was healthy he was averaging 22 points a game. If he wen't to the line like durant he would be right there with him scoring wise.
iL take B-easy 100 times than BG. BG is all about power moves. while B-easy is more on finesse. And NBA now is not all about power (aside if you have D-howard's shoulder or TDs low post move) BG is all about Jumping high but his undersize. If only Bulls pick B-easy. B-Easy is a monster right now in the NBA. and D-rose is a good compliment to D-wade.
Beasley had so much talent,but he's on drugs and alcohol, and for me his career ended before it started,on the other hand you have a strong young man who has a lot of potential and work habit and is clear that if he's not better now (which i doubt in) he'll be better in a year or two...and not a litle better,i mean a whole lot better
Griffin has way more upside at this point. Beasley DID have more hype than Griffin coming out, he was a big time scorer AND rebounder. He's kind of fucked up though, threatened to kill himself, etc. He's turned himself into an ok player, but the Heat couldn't wait to dump him. Blake lost his shine too when he got hurt, but he plays like his life is at stake. So what if he's not a great defender yet ? Lol, Beasley is ?? Beasley is 6'10", 230. He should get more than 6 rebs a game.
It is very strange Beasley's game didn't instantly translate to the NBA. He has such a smooth post up-turn around jumper and a smooth j in general. While he stands at 6-10 it seems like it would be extremely difficult to defend. It isn't like he is a twig, he is a pretty muscular guy. Only thing I can think of is work ethic, because he has the NBA body and smooth release. Lebron is certainly the guy to get him going, hopefully it happens.
@dragonlancefire Well he is suppose to work with Kobe this off season. He also said he is going to work on his handle and passing. He wants to become a point forward. You might be right. We will see.
He did start. He lost he job when he got injured. Also Beasley is better than Griffin in a lot of ways. Griffin is more consistent which makes him a better basketball player.
@markus1978p I feel Beasley had a more complete game in college based on the fact that he third in the nation in scoring and first in rebounds. He had more win shares than Griffin, averaged more blocks and steals, and was higher in defensive wins shares with less turnovers. Plus Beasley has a better perimeter shot than Griffin. Offensively Beasley was more skilled and was better on D(based on stats). Beasley's PER for that season was the highest in a real long time.
I doubt it. Griffin already has a knee problem and plus Beasley is those kind of players that explodes into the scene after their 3rd year. Beasley has the range already and dribble to take it to the basket. He just needs to work on his post up game and his D
I love the euphemisms.."let the two guys play for awhile"------ you mean let the clowns CHEAT for awhile. The referee, in what passes for the game of basketball , these days , occupies a similar role to that of a ref in professional wrestling In other words, its a joke ---What rule book? Double-dribbling, traveling , palming the ball, hacking , you name it. Poor Naismith- turning over in his grave at this embarrassing spectacle
@Ian52093 I see what you are saying. He is more like 6'8 though. Meet him last year. Blake griffin is a beast no doubt. I'm not even saying Beasley is better, he just as talented though. Beasley is putting up good numbers playing a position he has never played in his life. People talk about his defense but Blake doesn't play defense very well either. Beasley has the talent to be great and I think he will.
i know all that but u never know is he gonna slip, or is it gonna make problems later because of what he did now,but still u'r kinda right he might chill the heat a little cuz last season was like everybody were sleeping except wade and chalmers
@leonardlouie Although your on my side, that's not an argument. Andrea Bargnani got picked first, is he better than Brandon Roy??? Still, Griffin is better, atleast he didnt get traded for a 2nd Round Pick
Michael Beasley is better and he will remain better. Blake Griffin is just a finisher and he shows no potential of becoming a scorer. Blake Griffin is a horrible defender, he may improve but when I watch him play... it looks like he wants to disappear on defense. Michael Beasley is reminding me of Carmelo. Beasley has a jump shot and he can finish in the paint. Plus he's a good defender. Don't get me wrong. Blake Griffin will be a very good scorer, but he'll be a simple one.
@andergra000 Blake Griffin is a PF, he is always around the rim. He's a dunker like Dwight Howard, but he sucks defensively. Blake Griffin is supposed to average more rebounds and blocks(even if he sucks on defense). Beasley isn't scared of contact, it's obvious you don't watch him play. Beasley is built in the mold of Carmelo Anthony. They can dunk, score and hit threes. Griffin doesn't have a full package, he's always around the rim, sucks defensively and all he does is dunk the ball.
@TheRexrapperfirst off i love debating and talk about bball, thank u my friend....but of course Beasley had better stats, i mean come on K-State, played and plays a much weaker schedule than OU, and with the players on that team, he had the option to take 99% of the shots, becuz he was the only viable scoring option!!!!!!Bill Walker was there, but was hurt n very inconsistent and thats about it (to be continued.....)
@jdaking1 Has Beasley ever have 19 Consecutive Double-Doubles??? Or averaged 20/12 as a rookie?? Everyone touted Beasley as the next big thing out of Kansas State... Griffin is better and always will be...if he develops a Amar'e like jumper he will be one of the best players in the league
Agreed. I remember seeing Beasly coming out as the second pic, and thinking "You're not gonna be able to get that shot off in the pros..." His game is made for 6th man rather than superstar.
