Blizzard Needs To Listen: FFXIV Can SAVE WoW 

Ishgard Housing isn't just exciting because it's Ishgard, it's basically the conclusion of FFXIV's own version of the AQ Gate opening. People got together to rebuild and restore Ishgard. And guess what? The Firmament is now still a part of the game where people go and can STILL do.

Blizzard won't even listen to their most loyal fans and players, let alone to competition. They still believe they are above it all.

Stop making players have to purchase novels outside the game to be able to understand the narrative going on in game. The game should stand on its own as a story without people needing to buy books in order to 'get it'. Supplement lore books and explorations of things that aren't the main path of the game/expac are fine, but making players buy books just to understand the main arc is an obvious cash grab.

One of the biggest advantages of FFXIV still has to be the way they handle alt jobs, you can play everything on a single character and that means you can unlock things ONCE and have them unlocked for the rest of that characters playthrough. It honestly gets rid of so many annoying situations WoW has where you have to keep track of what character has what unlocked and having to repeat the same content over and over. Furthermore it helps sell that feeling that your are playing as your chosen character that much more imo. Implementing this system in WoW with the same sort of elegance would be absolutely a massive undertaking, and I think it will never happen due to it just being different for so very long but it is the superior way of handling things. But having one time unlocks being shared across characters would be a step in the right direction I think.

What's incredible is that it's painfully clear that the WoW community doesn't even need much, they just need a genuine attempt to improve general QoL and a reduction in the forced engagement mechanisms that make so many of them feel like they're working a second job between raiding. That's exactly what FF14 learned by its second expansion - they cut out a ton of the meaningless bullshit and rewarded players appropriately for playing things besides raids (flying, craftable gear sets being viable for raid, huge expansion of housing, glamor, social tools). I imagine if WoW would just suck it up and try similar improvements that they'd re-earn the trust of a huge number of players, but they can't even do that lmao. Tear it down, Blizz, and start over.

I would mention that ultimates are a very tiny gain in player power, the weapon you get is the same stats as the savage weapon, but it has 3 materia slots instead of 2. But that difference is so minimal it doesn't really matter and the main goal is just to enjoy the 16-18 minute long gauntlet of a challenge and get a shiny weapon and cool title from doing so.

I honestly believe that the main thing that elevates FFXIV is that its devs know exactly what game they want to make. They have a clear idea of what FFXIV is, what makes it good and what they want it to be going forward. So many other MMOs just seem...confused of where they want to go, of what playerbase they want to appeal to. At the end of the day, FFXIV knows what it's about and focuses on that. Does WoW really know what WoW is about anymore?

Agreed. "Get on our level .. flick a camera on," and talk to us! Blizz community engagement has been abysmal. Just break the PR bs and engage.

It is sad to think that Blizzard originally designed WoW by studying other MMOs and learning from those games' mistakes. Today, Blizzard ignores their competitors and creates a bunch of junk nobody wants. Meanwhile, FFXIV learned from WoW's mistakes and created a far superior MMO as a result. History may not repeat, but it certainly echoes in interesting ways...

I feel like Bellular is that one friend that shows up once a month with 3~4 pamphlets to try to get his addict friend that never listens the help he needs.

FF combat ress really would do WoW a world of good. Sure, it's fine the way it is in Mythic, but in Normal you can't just have overly punishing mechanics, but you also can't have things do so little damage that people will just ignore it. If Jimmy needs to fail a mechanic 5 times to get it right, in FF that can be done in 1-2 pulls, in WoW it's 5+all the time wasted between the pulls. And that's another thing, time wasted between pulls... Trash, corpse runs, food, buffs, someone goes for a piss instead of running and you wait for them. You could easily get rid of all of that. Let food last through death, spawn people in the boss arena after boss wipe, reduce trash to 1-2 setpiece packs, and you can actually focus on the thing you're there for, killing bosses.

It's not just that the XIV team communicates with the players, it's that they communicate with us as adults. They don't condescend or make excuses when things go wrong, and they're quick to acknowledge when players say "there's a problem - here's the data that shows we're not making things up" (e.g. the 2001 lobby error after EW launch - SE couldn't find the error on their side until players started doing wireshark traces and made that data available to the devs, which led to the discovery of the 1.0 legacy code causing the issue, a sincere apology, and a priority patch to fix the problem). It's a sharp contrast to the WoW dev team's history of saying a lot without saying anything and treating players like they're all stupid kids who wouldn't understand if they explained things anyways. Plus their half-assed approach to fixing issues, if they fix them at all, and their tendency to either ignore problems, or "solve" them with the most extreme possible solution, "fun detected" style. It's like the only options they have are "pretend there's no problem" or "nuke it".

What makes this so ironic is FF14 is so great because it just took what Blizz did with MoP, and over the past 10 years built on and improved it. FF14 was so great to me because it was just MoP2.

Kind of how playing WoW and learning from it saved FFXIV.

After fleeing WoW for FF in June last year, the biggest thing I feel that WoW could learn from it is to just respect players time. Seeing people be like 'I was done with stuff in Endwalker after a month' as if it is a negative amazes me when I now see it as a positive after escaping WoW's grasp. I got other stuff to do, other games to play. It's okay to be 'Done'. Current WoW's design of drip feeding you rewards, time gating things from the very onset, and other stuff that literally exists only to waste your time and keep you subbed for eternity. Whereas FF is like "Get what you want out of it, and comeback when you see something in our release schedule that interests you". With WoW also increasingly making each patch throw away all your work in prior patch via catchup, unless you are going for world first or any of the time sensitive FOMO stuff, really only makes sense to sub to it for the very last patch of an expansion. ...And that's not even getting started on the alt nightmare.

Something about FFXIV's developement is that even at its more intensive it has been well-paid and anti-crunch. So its not a thing about Blizzard needing to crunch their workers to make things that FFXIV does. Its a thing about not only paying and treating them well but hiring enough people to not need to crunch them in the first place. Yoshi-p DID go to corporate and literally say ''give me resources to fix this game or else it will be a massive failure that will stain the company forever'' and they did give him the resources not only to remake FFXIV, but also to make it without crunching his developement team. Yoshi-p is the hardest worker in CBU3.

Until the rockstar mentality at Blizzard is eradicated at every level, nothing will change. They don't even listen to their fans, there's no way in hell they'll take notes from their competition.

I think the current issues with WoW are more corporate in nature. The bad design choices are just symptoms of larger problems with how the company has been run. Until those issues have been addressed it's just rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic. Maximizing short term profits, chasing trends, high risk aversion, disposable workers, PR over substance, etc. the list goes on. Even if the devs wanted to serve us a steak they have to get it through the meat grinder because all they cook is hamburger.

I used to play WoW ages ago, and here's the dirty secret about why I continue to follow WoW content: I want it to be good. That's really it. I had to evaluate why I was so interested in WoW and the real reason is just simply, I want it to be good. I've *wanted* to come over and explore the game, and the lore (that hasn't been ravaged by the current arc). I want to experience the class mechanics and I want to see the cool raids. But every time I watch a video, I'm more convinced that it's not the time yet. I want to enjoy it and appreciate it and see it thrive, for its own sake, not just because I want strong competition for my favorite game, FFXIV. So I'll continue to hold out hope that they'll find their way. But it's going to require humility, and it's going to require confronting some hard truths about how their chosen path has harmed their community.

To be honest every mmorpg can learn a LOT with FF and make them so much better in many regards .

What you said about ''That's not how you build a memorable world'' is so spot on... People give XIV a hard time saying it's too much cinematics and talking but that's what make me care about the world they built. I stopped having that feeling with WoW and that's what pushed me away from it.

WoW should diversify it's content. FF14 has Dungeons - Trails - 8M Raids - 24M Raids - Ultimate's - Deep Dungeons - Missions (Bozja/Eureka), and upcoming solo dungeons. The 8M Raid isn't finished but here's a cool Trail, Ultimate, and Dungeon instead. Content cycles in FF14 are predictable and you're always looking forward to the next thing. After finishing, piss off to Elden RIng or something like Yoshi-P said until the next patch.

That little dance fight you showed from WOW reminds me of the falling section in Byakko from the absolutely delightful Four Lords trials in FFXIV. I’ve heard a lot from friends who are WOW refugees, about just how burdensome raiding can be. Four Lords is just pure fun in terms of fight design and comedy, with a little bit of emotional stabbing. I really hope WOW players will get to experience moments of just pure, giggle-inducing fun.

WoW is a game that is purposefully designed to waste your time. Everything is artificially gated. The World doesn't feel connected in anyway anymore. Old content and areas may as well just be deleted from your hard drive. The game needs reinvest back into the world again. Despite how many expansions and areas there are in the game, its a game that feels increadibly small.

I've been saying they need to listen for years. At this point I've given up on that.

I believe one of the game’s main issues is their underutilization of the majority of the game world. They’ve made a little headway with this through timewalking but they should go much further and have the events occur more often. They still don’t utilize their old dungeons and raids very well. TW needs a better rotation of dungeons instead of the same few over and over. Old raids also need more love. In FFXIV some of the old raids have “challenge modes” that scale you down, still require coordination and have rewards that are still prestigious years later. They’re also available at anytime not just a few weeks out of the year. They should also rotate some some active PvE and PvP events in each expansion’s zones for 1-2 weeks. For PvP have them reward a chunk of conquest and honor. Old challenges modes should also be rotated. When BFA content rotates in make horrific visions relevant. Remove the currency requirements and add new rewards like they did with Mage Tower and make it a very difficult optional challenge. Finally they could go above and beyond and finally add real housing. Even if it was just Garrison’s for guilds with more customization, active optional PvP assaults on eachother’s structures, maybe the ability to battle for prime real estate and losers keep their building but are just forced to move it elsewhere. Like a bragging rights thing. There’s so much they could do with this game to make it shine again. My expectations are low but the possibilities are there.

My friends and i really like raiding/m+ and combat in WoW but everytime we try to play it, we are prompted with dozens of unfun and secondary contents that we have to do before experiencing even the normal modes of raids due to everything being tied to player power. I mean i dont want to get everything for free but being able to form a small group of 8 ppl and just jump into new content in FFXIV to chase some gear w/o needing to farm renown or reps feels much better to me. On the other side of the river forming a 20man group and clearing at least 3 or 4 bosses or joining a M+ with no quitters after a wipe or a bad pull its almost impossible. Now imagine if you're alliance.

Looking at the Infograph at 13:55 reminded me of an interview in one of the past live letters with the FFXIV battle design dev: they actually design the savage fights and EX trials first, and then remove mechanics or reduce them to make the normal ones

FF definitely has some nice QoL and ease of entrance with having raid bosses split up into separate disconnected arenas with no trash but I can't deny I do miss the feeling of walking into the monolithic raids of WoW. One giant instance where everything feels connected. It's probably why I didn't hate Coils as much as everyone else since it has that strong WoW influence. Having just enough trash to get through before the actual boss and the grandure of the arenas. While Alliance Raids does scratch the itch kinda I'd love to see the main raids feel a little more connected instead of just having 4 circular platforms floating in the void (yes I know Pandæmonium has square platforms that aren't floating)

I applaud the effort to give solutions instead of just pointing out problems. The wall this will run into is that their business model runs on a lack of accessibility and a lack of easy achievement. They want to keep you subscribed and grinding. It is the MMO version of China; They want to keep you too busy and tired to complain.

Change LFR to just boss fights could be a lighter fix that wouldn't necessarily take as much work

Big comment: don't "read more" if you can't handle it. To add everything in ffxiv isn't exactly "account-wide". Progress is character based like mentioned but with the point of being to do everything on one character there are very few uses for alts, and not really many for normal players at all. Some people use alts as storage mules, maybe they want to have crafting separet and the mats for it separated from their main character as a way to claim inventory space; some annoyingly use alts to keep multiple houses; some may want to be in multiple fcs or want to enjoy the story again without using New Game plus. To these alt holding players; msq and leveling boosts are usually meant for them since they may have already experienced the story (and don't want to take the time to do it again). I personally have alts in other regions as well as one holding items for me that I rarely need, transferring items via the fc chest (if you have access to do this). You can obviously buy more retainers to hold stuff for an increased sub, and they do make it so older expansion crafting items are easier to just buy from a vendor instead allowing you to sell or throw away mats if your one who doesn't hoard xD You can ignore the wall of text below, it's what to expect from each XIV patch at this point (based on patterns since 3.0 and little 2.0), not in a stale way either, FFXIV players (especially Veterans) simply know what to expect each patch; > Plenty of story per patch (With .5's being split in two with first part in .5 and 2nd in .55, as to allow time for expansion development) > Normal and Savage Raid wing (with increased item level) every even patch; > Alliance raid (dungeon like with trash, and 4 raid bosses scaled to take about ~30m when current) and ways to catch up in item level every odd patch. > Every patch has a new dungeon and extreme trial. Expansion (.0) has 5 trials in msq (3 normal and 2 extreme), x.1 has 3rd normal msq trial (from .0) as an extreme, x.2 starts a new trial series (1st boss of it as normal and extreme), x.3 tends to have a new MSQ-related trial (norm + ex), x.4 is trial 2 of the series (norm + ex), x.5 is trial 3 of the series (norm+ex). > In the past 2 expansions there has also been an extra trial or fight related to other content too, Stormblood (4.0) had the Great Hunt (Ex and Normal) from their collab with Monster Hunter, Shadowbringers has Memora Misera (extreme only, normal is a solo instance duty with npc allies) linked to the reoccurring relic series > About half way through an expansion (sometimes earlier) we get a new Relic Weapon series (for those who like to grind for a flashy weapon which becomes best in slot at the end of the expansion) > Ultimate fights aren't set in stone, they seem to want to do 2 an expansion, think its like 5% of all players who attempt it (requiring them to beat the hardest savage content when it released) so its never super high on their to do list since it requires a bunch of testing but they do it anyway for the people who want them. > Extra content (one or more of these each patch): Side quests (eg Hildebrand), Side content (Island Sanctuary), Gold Saucer Updates (new items/GATEs/feature) , Housing > QoL updates, they are usually minor things, some being bigger things you appreciate The last five points usually are nice surprises too. 2.0 was a mixed bag with all the trials relating to the MSQ and the Raids being pretty much only having one difficulty which was pretty hard at the time (nerfed from the original so cant bed experienced exactly like it used to be, they stopped doing this now) with the Second Coil savage being them testing a "harder difficulty" with the players just for achievements (and titles). Having easier normal modes and difficult savages became the norm 3.0 onward, allowing people to experience the story of those raids without a roadblock of a savage in the way for casual players. Savage like mentioned in the video is just a "retelling" of how the fight went down, or an "improved" version (however the raid series explains its savage fights). Heck that's not even mentioning Holiday events; Heavensturn (New Years), Valentiones (Valentine's), Little Ladies Day (think Japense Cherry Blossom event), Hatching Tide (Easter), Make it Rain (Gold saucer event, usually in May-June), Moonfire Faire (Summer Event), followed by The Rising (FFXIV anniversary), All Saint's Wake (Halloween) ending on Starlight Celebration (Christmas), granted this hasn't been done normally since Covid kinda displaced a few, with us having a Make it Rain event on Halloween (With it being merged), which having a delayed Endwalker launch, pushed the Halloween event of 2021 to start of 2022; hoping its back to normal from now though). Then you have the Moogle Tombstone events which are usually bonus events to get certain loot easier by farming special currency from older content, they usually do this prior to an end of a patch if they need to.

Let WoW die, honestly they do not care for their players, so let them reap the consequences. Plus it is a garbage company since we learned their dirty secrets.

I'd like horizontal content. Stuff for those who don't like dungeons and raids. There are so many mounts and pets that collecting them doesn't interest me anymore. Housing would be great and furniture building.

As long as the game's success is measured in MAUs and other ways to reduce people to simple numbers, instead of in player satisfaction and fun, things won't change. The initial point that new content is designed from is flawed.

Greater engagement and transparency would do wonders for them. Yoshi and the crew don't tell us everything, but they're always open and up front about major stuff that effects the players, even the negative stuff. Another thing I love about the FFXIV devs is that they all play their own game, enthusiastically and AT COST. They know that if they do things that waste our time and money, they're also wasting their own. It is rare that I feel disrespected by their design decisions. Even if I don't love them, they never feel slapdash or ill considered. They may not be my jam, but they're made with care for the people who love them, and I'm always willing to at least give them a try.

Kinda wish Blizzard just made a pet project that's basically straight up Planetside 2, but with Starcraft factions. Little to no story, just FPS territory wars constantly. And the starships can be sized appropriately for once. Learn from how Natural Selection 2 did a zerg-like alien race.

Blizzard: "Of course, clearly we need at least 14 versions of WoW!" Everyone: *Collective facepalm*

I really like Guild Wars 2's res mechanics where you keep fighting, and if you survive a given amount of time you're back up - the time taken can be reduced with the help of one or more teammates. I don't know how it works in GW2 raids (never got that far) but I'd love to see WoW implement something like it!

Every Bellular Video using FF14 background music is telling.

I think the core feature that would bring me back to WoW is in fact a deep account-wide progression system. Something akin to a cross between SWTOR's Legacy system and Lost Ark's Roster system. An account-wide reputation system wouldn't wholesale work for WoW, but a semi-account wide system where basic milestone required a character to hit a level and then the account-wide system kicked in would work. I think the biggest thing though would be Account Banking/Storage and gear and currency sharing would do wonders for the game. A more robust daily and weekly task system that would allow players to more easily plan out their gameplay sessions across their entire account for said account progression would be a must.

timewalking across the entire game? yes please! each week, we should be able to queue into an older raid, like onyxia, scaled up (pun intended) player housing? yes please! wildstar had amazing player housing. for wow I would like something in between wildstar, skyrim, the sims, and FF14. I want trophy cases, armor and weapon racks, places where you can show off a screenshot you have taken, etc. as well as sprinkle collectible furniture (and a NPC you can trade resources to, to purchase collections of furniture).

"They keep trying to recapture the Timeless Isle..." That island may be one of my least favorite things they did in WoW.

"blizz NEEDS to listen" video number 23400.

Alt job leveling in FFXIV is one of my favorite repeatable solo content and i would love if WoW were to take some inspiration from it. Imagine if they were to reduce endgame systems and give you from day 1 of the expansion/patch some kind of weekly resource to your main character to buy lots of gear for your alts to simulate how the Tomestone currency works in FFXIV so you could get min ilvl for the fun stuff like +10/HC/Rated PvP (Of your choice obviously) for your alts. WoW would benefit greatly from making incentives to play alt classes, even in the form of more playtime from players for the metrics and who knows, maybe even in more money from the store. At least if they were to improve in some way the leveling experience it would do wonders since at least in WoW dungeon spaming felt way worse than dungeon spaming, doing Bozja, etc. in FFXIV tbh, also they could do something like class quests every X levels or role quests at least so you get more than getting to max level from that character, even if it's a minor thing you at least get that little touch in the form of a nice story.

Can someone tell me the name of the video on the 9:00 mark? The blizzard gordon meme

honestly, the game's 17 years old. It's ok if it dies. I don't think there's really a way to save it without making it unrecognizable as the same game anyway.

Hi there, from your slide at 13:56 I can see you ordered the WoW raids in terms of dificulty but not with the FFXIV raids. I think it would have been better to order it as Normal -> Alliance -> Ex Trail -> Savage -> Ultimate

A big one I wish they'd implement is removal of racial choice mattering, since that opens the game up so much for player choice and expression. If I want to be a human Shaman with an ability like Thunderstomp, let me. Or a tauren Warlock with the blood elves' racial. A lot of the jobs in XIV are exceptionally rare practices that have like 3 or 4 people in the world who have mastered them, but you're the Warrior of Light - a super badass master of everything, so it's fine. WoW's not that different in that regard, the champions of Azeroth are basically demi-gods who regularly fell gods, titans, and worse. I don't think it's some huge stretch that a WoW player character is a tad different from the average of their race.

Yes, I have been saying for years that the rep system from Mists was the best way to do rep grind. I also like the idea of the acct wide progress ala Star Wars. Those two things combined would be huge.

FFXIV is the bar for MMOs. Square Enix, and Yoshi, set this bar so high that I'm truly excited to see who can take the bar even further. I feel EverQuest quite set the MMO bar back in 1999, then WoW moved the bar in 2003 or so, and then Square Enix with FFXIV. I just hope that the time it takes to move the bar ahead isn't the same time it took between WoW launch and FFXIV Heavensward. That was more than a decade of the bar not moving much at all... There is a lot of WoW vs FFXIV content and the true winners when there is MMO competition is us the players. Look at what WoW has produced for us in the last decade. Most of it hasn't been great... That's because they didn't have to produce great content as they were kind of all a lot of us players had. That has changed.

The one thing FF does best for the dungeons/raiding concept imo is that between all of it. Trials/EX/Normal/Savage and even the roulette systems is all just LFG. Ultimates are the hard stop to where you have to actually use the party finder to find a group or make one instead of just Que up for a random group. It’s all just a looking for group, you don’t have to manually invite people to group, but you also have that option as well, you can “1 man” raid essentially so long as you know what you are getting into when you Que up. It really takes the thought process away of having to worry about other people, besides during the fight. Just open wows every dungeon/reading etc to a lfg general standard with the option to still choose who you want to invite as well, it’s just the open ease of access of how you want to approach the things that make FF feel more pick up and play and put down when I don’t want to, instead of having to play because you’re just waiting to play.

I went back to SWTOR for a bit and I liked the loadout system. I think that's something that FFXIV should use but for materia because as it is there are so many jobs that use the same type of gear and one materia build is not always optimal for other jobs. So instead of having materia slots directly in the gear there should be a materia grid for each job. Kinda like FFX but on a much smaller and limited scale.

Wow budget is on systems and mount stores xD

one major problem with wow is we do all the work just for the npcs to take credit.

MoP was great with the alts because things you did on your main effected your alts. Cap VP? now your alts gained VP more quickly. Get Revered? buy a token that gives your alts double rep gains for that faction. which is why its my second favorite expac behind Wrath. want to level up fishing faster? rep up with the anglers or nat pagle on your main and buy BOA books to send to alts to get 50 skill points a book.

Thank you for this, you encapsulate exactly how I feel about the game. A threadmill of progression and gear that resets every 6-ish months only for you to do it all over again. Not fun, not innovative and I'm tired of it. Gearing seems pointless in this perspective because it will all reset anyway. Give me something new, make the world feel alive and rich with lots of content outside of raids, mythic+ and pvp. I work fulltime in an often stressfull environment and the last thing I need when playing wow during the week is more stress and pressure to perform. I want to relax, unwind and have fun in the game. Collecting mounts, pets, toys and gaining rep can be fun but we have been doing that for years now.

It was Yoshi_P who used the term themepark when describing mmos, something for everyone and he has not swayed from that idea.

Can't help but catJAM to "On Blade's Edge" the midboss theme, such a good track.

Combat ress (along with lack of DPS checks on duties that are part of roulettes) is indeed a big factor of why content that on WoW couldn't be done with matchmaking can be done on FF14. They are much harder than WoW's LFR, but being able to bounce back from a near wipe make it much doable with a group of random people, even when the mechanics felt more punishing and couldn't be ignored. The reason why some of the Alliance Raids encounters on the first stormblood alliance raid series were considered a nightmare with random people on release, was because some of them have point where it was hard to bounce back (requiring most people to be alive to do mechanics, or multiple DPS checks)

A good game are a good thing for everyone, player or non player, so please.

Thing is FF14 is already doing all of this so why bother playing wow?

The removal of 10 man raids killed that aspect of the game to me... I used to have a group of friends and people from my city that raided together, and we simply stop playing after the removal. It is just a completely different experience raiding with 9 people you know to play a 25 man. After that, I just did the "tourist" mode just to see the raid and was satisfied. In the current expansion, I didn't even craft my legendary to make the LFG.

I'd go one step further than allowing all classes (with certain limitations) on a single character. Since every class in WoW is neatly divided into three tracks, I'd do like in Archeage and make them mix-and matchable (probably with certain mutual exclusions, such as only one pet track at a time), with each track advanced separately, though under the auspices of its main class, and then you could come up with a ridiculous number of hybrid class names for different track combinations.

I haven't played WoW since Wrath of the Lich King, but I do remember that back then, Vanilla and The Burning Crusade weren't completely dead content. You at least leveled in those zones and utilized the content. It seems from what I've seen from various creators that modern WoW (post Cataclysm maybe?) almost literally throws out every old expansion every time a new one comes out. That baffles me. I understand not forcing players to play 15 years of content (especially on every alt) to get current, (and I think XIV is going to have to have a new starting point for new players, probably with 7.0) but to render your old development obsolete seems like a waste of time and a major loss for the players. It seems like one of the biggest things WoW could learn from XIV is to not throw out that content, but to make it always accessible. Sure it may get easier over time with different abilities, or everyone at gear caps, but allowing people to play through old raids at a similar power scale to when they were released would give players so much more to do and so much more things to have fun with that would just naturally help keep them subbed without all these time-gated barriers and necessary daily/weekly quests to just not fall behind. Get people to stay subbed because they want to not because they have to.

The funny thing about "one-boss" "raids" is that it always was a thing in wow. whether it's world-bosses, or things like Onyxia, Malygos, Sarth, Wintergrasp VoA bosses (although that kinda morphed into a pseudo-multi-wing raid as time progressed) etc. I haven't played since Draenor (and even that barely) so I don't know if they still do these nowadays, but we used to have several one-off raids back in the day every expansion, it's not even a new concept to WoW.

I also think WoW needs someone like yoshiP. Can you believe a game developer said he is doubtful of the cash shop system integrated to the game which could make the game tons of money? Square Enix is a money grubbing company look at the live service game they launched and fail immediately they would milk the shyt outta FF14 if it weren't for yoshiP

Mythic raiding in WoW is since Legion not even that much about the difficulty anymore, but an accessibility check. I did cutting edge raiding because I really loved the challenge in siege of orgrimmar and it pretty much got me through warlords of draenor, but after that the amount of gold you needed for consumables and additional character maintenance skyrocketed in Legion to now. To stay in that comfortable world 300-500 guild range was just not feasible the time investment fore me and I had to drop it despite playing well enough and enjoying it a lot. Comparing that to FF14 savage and ultimate raids is just crazy accessibility wise: -Potions and buff-food are the only consumables, cheap and the later lasts through death. -While most players use ACT/logs for self improvement you don't need them and no other addon/plugin to proficiently raid. -Your only "needed" character maintenance are your weekly capped tomestones, which you can grind out whenever with the most time efficient way being running 4 expert dungeons, total time needed per week: one hour (with your raiding lads you can easily smash through one in sub 15 minutes.), this will also stop being relevant for your main job rather quickly as you gear up fast to best in slot. While I will still say that WoW has more and on average more interesting difficult bosses (to me anyways), the difference in time and energy spent on just challenging the bosses vs preparing inside and outside of the game make FF14 raiding currently more appealing to me.

I don't know much about WoW. I mainly play FF and get recommended these videos by RU-vid. But it sounds like things aren't very good. Hope your game gets better.

FYI Yoshi P. did say in a Live Letter somewhere between after ShadowBrings came out and before ShadowLands came out that he would like to do a crossover for FFXIV and WoW. If WoW wants to as well it might help too in someway?

19:20 - GW2 is another good example here. Masteries are account wide. Stories and map POIs aren't. But, you get items where you can teleport alts to any map you've unlocked without having to force all your alts through the story. 20:31 - GW2 gives inspiration here, too. I listened to this video while farming LS4 content which is from 2017. Before that I was puttering around on a different alt in base Tyria from 2012! All because I wanted an account unlock (LS4 content) and also needed to replenish my mats from crafting (Tyria content). When's the last time you went into 5-10 year old content in WoW for current progression?

Personally, I want all their secondary-borrowed-power systems be account wide, and then for alts and the account level, create a Heritage system and tie heritage weapons and sets to it. Base it on the Legacy system that SWOTOR has. If they're going to lock certain things like covenant choices to a single character, make creating alternate characters a lot, lot easier. And then make the tokens/resources/currency that the borrowed power system uses, be accessible by any character on the account. So you can farm a lot of said currency on one character, but then spend it on another.

Very Very nice presentation and ideas. ARR 2.0 and HW borrowed heavily from Wrath and Cata of WoW. But now there are indeed a lot of things FFXIV did right that WoW could learn from. :)

I migrated to ff14 early last year and one the big striking differences I’ve noted is the constant tie ins and relevance the older non current plays in the current expansion. The biggest example I can think of off the top of my head would be the crafting I revisited every expansion whilst gathering materials to craft current expansion gear! When was the last time a wow player at max level was out mining copper…? For wow old content is irrelevant and may as well not be there….

I dunno if this is a good or bad thing but I kinda noticed that zereth mortis soundtrack is quite similar to the ones of ff14

Raid trash that I like is when it teaches you the boss mechanics. I also like the idea of raid trash being optional. Non-existance of trash makes a raid feel empty. I feel that if trash was skippable by using resources to essentially do what SoO did automatically one time and have the Calvary appear, well, it becomes something that feels earnt, gives screentime to NPCs while elevating player characters' role in a raid (as a group, not an individual). It's world building and provides a different experience. Raid encounters that are obviously designed to be trash fights with a power reward on completion are a grey area in WoW. First, it doesn't help when they are surrounded by standard trash fights. Additionally, because they are mandatory, it carries with it the same frustration of standard trash where 100% clearance is required before the boss can be engaged. Think the start of Heart of Fear, it literally does both. The first room contains trash that can be 60-75% ignored, but once you get to the boss room, the boss cannot be attacked until 6 packs of trash are cleared. Now, imagine having to do for the Spoils of Pandaria fight in Siege of Orgrimmar? An already unpopular fight made worse by doing something that was done for EVERY boss fight in Heart of Fear. Trash can provide benefits to raid design, but it happens far too rarely. I don't like the idea of a location like Castle Nathria with only a dozen attackable beings inside. Imagine being rewarded from killing trash by being able to skip trash in future instead of hoping for BoE epics or rep grinding?

last week when Pandas TW was on, i got classic dungeon in my run, and it was soo good, i really miss old dungeons and i cant visit them again and not one shot everything there. And if they can scale one dungeon, then Devs can do it to everything with almost one button, and please lets us run them when we want and can have reward like budges or some currency for our alts, gold, craft materials, but dont turn them off when TW is finished.

The difference for me is im a casual and mid content player. I don't want to to raids and the high end mythic content but i love expansions, stuff to do in the world. Wow only focuses on the 1%. In FFXIV i can basically enjoy everything and i've never stepped foot into doing a ultimate. I do appriciate that people have higher content, but those same people should also love that a mmo have stuff for everyone. Let hope one day blizzard realizes that.

Blizzard is going to double down, the People working there are too narcissistic to admit WoW is failing.

I mean as a point of discussion if your doing mmos. Maybe look into and talk about how destiny markets itself as an mmo and changes it can make to move into that and be a true mmofps

Use Chromie time to switch in and out of synced content so anyone can do the old dungeons and raids synced again. It doesn't have to be super balanced (so long as it's not bonkers easy or hard), but it'll literally open up _the entire game_ again.

I've been playing a lot of swtor again lately and 100% agree with bringing the legacy type system to wow. It's been so nice playing a character and coming across different faction gear shops and already having the reputation from my previous character from years ago being able to buy the items because I've earned it from the past. Also the unlock system with different bonuses like auction house on the ship, faster world travel, xp bonuses and otthers have made it extra enjoyable.

Overconfidence, laziness, lack of creativity, lack of drive, lack of passion and the inability to care about the state of Wow!! They find it easier to gaslight the community to convince them they have learned from their mistakes every time, and every time its turned out to be lies. People are sick of Activision/Blizzard bull and they've moved on to other games that respect the players!! Wow is a shadow of its former self and the staff are not capable of creating a great wow xpac since the og staff have all but gone..... And it shows!! Not even Microsoft will be able to help them, until they get the staff who legit want to make a great game!!

If you're aking people to wishlist your game, you might want to put a link to the steam page in the description, that would make it easier for everyone ! ;)

They can do what FF does and what guys like Asmongold have been telling them they want(the most loyal playerbase, by the by) which is non mandatory completionist content and cosmetics. FF has tons of this, and even all its relevant patch content, inevitably becomes a RELEVANT side activity, years and expansions after it is current.

as an ff14 player i honestly think the simple gearing system in the game could also be considered one of it's down side. while this is easier for the devs do manage and balance it removes freedom for players. you don't have many options for bis, and even if your job has different bis builds their difference isn't that much. it feels like the devs like everything to be under their control but by doing that they remove flexibility from some aspects of the game

4:35 Is this what corporate and hierarchical looks like? Might be fun. Maybe I should give it a try.

Totally agree. All these systems makes no sense. It made me quit so many times in past 2 years i can't even count. With my super casual playtime i don't even want to think about what currency now i need to grind. Shadowlands had so many of these extra new features that were just a chores for me and i did not enjoy any of it. Another expansion with borrowed powers, changing my class over and over. I changed main 4 times in the last 2 expansions... that;s just sad how "seasonal" skills can destroy your enjoyment in class i played for years.

If you release your game on mobile, I'll get it. Otherwise no way for me to play. Longterm goal to think about I hope!

Where FFXIV alternates their 8 man progression raid and 24 man Alliance raid (LFR, but unique and not pure faceroll), Blizzard could alternate patches with their traditional trash mobs + multiple raid boss dungeons in one patch and some Onyxia/Malygos boss only fights in the other, rotating back and forth.

Spot the difference: "Remember, remember that we once lived." "I am a stegosaurus."

i would like to see world bosses instanced so that not laggy zerg fests, plus you could design a heroic and mythic version covering all players.

7:22 I appreciate that 40k reference. Very apt. The Corpse Emperor that the faithful sacrifice themselves for just for the sake that it will bring it back to some semblance of life.

Not sure the seasonal thing is a problem, nor is it really new. Patch zones, their connected raids, and PvP seasons have been mostly synced forever. The only thing Legion really changed was adding m+ to the mix. While they could do a better job spacing out world content and dungeons (imagine if Mechagon was in a .5 patch between tiers), raids and m+/pvp seasons kind of have to be linked so they don't invalidate each others' gear.

Please tell I'm not the only one who can't stop bopping to the boss music in the background.

They should have made hearthstone playable in game, with competition halls in the all the cities, each city could have given you the chance to find a rare cards only available in those locations.

I would love to raid but as a small business owner, I'm limited to one night a week of play

Get rid of extra raid bosses and add them as a single raid boss like u said but link it to a quest chain for story telling for that boss???

I am convinced Bellular is flaunting his glam game whenever there's ff14 video. And I love it.

Honestly one of the biggest takeaways from this video should be the part about gearing. There's no telling how much development time goes into balancing classes, and they don't even do it well at all and never really have. Just going off of the time we spent theorycrafting BiS and rotations, the internal development time must have been insane. Gearing in FF isn't complicated at all and the gain in power between normal and savage isn't huge, but collecting BiS is still something that the hardcore raiders do. It's not like the demand for gear is going to go away if the gearing itself is simplified. Another thing is the time-wasting mechanics in raids and dungeons themselves. Having to run back to the instance, trash respawns, limited combat rez, there are so many things that are in place solely to make the process take longer. I think WoW's raid design is fine for the most part though I prefer smaller raids to the big sprawling ones, but it sucks to be progging a fight all night then suddenly have to deal with trash respawns. Blizzard need to hire actually play testers instead of relying on PTR. All the PTR does is open up new content to players that will compare it to what they know and consider it "good enough" and have their feedback largely ignored. Get some fresh players trying their content out and really take a look at what those testers don't find fun.