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@nik100k6
@nik100k6 10 месяцев назад
Scripe is the most normal hardcore MMO player, much love and keep wining champ
@IcedLance
@IcedLance 10 месяцев назад
There is nothing worse than the head of the company saying "shut up my product is perfect" while the company keeps losing customers.
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet 10 месяцев назад
The hardest part of doing the hardest group content is definitely the logistics. My group got AotC every tier we played the game, but we never got CE because our group was only 12 people that have been playing for years. And it feels like every time a new person came along, someone else had a kid or got a promotion, or something else took them out of the game. Finding people you both enjoy spending tine with who are ALSO good enough to do the content, while ALSO finding multiple times a week when everyone can play is tougher than the bosses in any MMO.
@luckygozer
@luckygozer 10 месяцев назад
If 10 man mythic raiding were announced I would enjoy the game 10x more.
@KosunaKoizumi
@KosunaKoizumi 10 месяцев назад
The reason why wipe punishment is tolerable in Classic is because the raids are braindead easy. Wiping is a rare occurrence in Classic and more like a catastrophe. In retail Mythic progress you wipe 100+ times on some bosses so reviving, rebuffing feels like a massive waste of time. Every other wipe someone releases their spirit, healer fucks up soulstone revive, someone goes afk and we have to wait for him to revive, eat food, get buffs.
@TheDwagonHD
@TheDwagonHD 10 месяцев назад
This. I was gonna comment something similar, but good someone got here before me so i dont have to waste my time. 😂
@Freestyle80
@Freestyle80 10 месяцев назад
if you make the raids braindead easy you'll lose the better players that carry the raids in pugs or guilds because as you can clearly see by Scripe's reaction in this vod he also would never do piss easy content. and then those less skilled players will get frustrated the same way. The issue is already solved with 4 difficulty modes, not sure why people are suddenly pretending like its not, do you feel bad not being able to do higher difficulties or something? No one's forcing you neither should you care what others think.
@Shedovv
@Shedovv 10 месяцев назад
@@Freestyle80Your argument contradicts itself. Because by the same logic of the first half of it. If the content is piss easy, and braindead. Then nobody needs these better players to carry the raids. Thus the second half of the argument wont happen. Because the less skilled players wont be frustrated, since they can just clear the piss easy, braindead difficulty themselves. The above aside. I agree that dumbing down the raids wont really help, because then everyone will just think the Raids are boring. Since most people will be used to the level of sweat demanded by some of the modern raids being over-engineered, in pursuit of the challenge.
@TheGraveyarder
@TheGraveyarder 10 месяцев назад
​@@Freestyle80what do you mean by making raids braindead easy? removing trash or putting respawns by the boss entrance? or just turning mythic difficulty into lfr? people just want some quality of life or raids be designed in a way that would not make 3rd party addons a mandatory requirement i dont think people want raids to be easier
@dingding12321
@dingding12321 10 месяцев назад
Classic raids are easygoing, not easy. Players need to be prepared, know their class, understand threat meter and manage resources. Raids are also very long yet raiders are constantly progressing through multiple raids a week. Raids aren't supposed to wipe a ton as their characters are going on a long but believable ordeal, as opposed to retail where wiping on the same boss for an hour at a time before everyone rquits is the norm. Classic raiders never clear one boss at a time - they clear all the bosses at once, or die trying. But many people out of 40 do need to make missteps in order to mess up a Classic raid, as opposed to 1 out of 25. Also losing buffs to poor trash or threat management makes consecutive wipes much easier, meaning everyone needs to focus. Side note: add-ons trivialize retail raiding in the same way that 20 years of research and stable (enough) servers and internet connections trivializes Classic raiding. Focus is generally all that matters, unlike FF14 where you can almost just get instagibbed for being unlucky.
@Shiirow
@Shiirow 10 месяцев назад
theres a difference between lacking the skill and ability to do an activity and simply choosing not to engage in it. people like to assume if you are not doing A, its because you dont possess the ability to A. Ive cleared mythic raids before, I just choose not to because I dont find the stress fun, so I simply get ahead of the curve and call it a day.
@Koranthus
@Koranthus 10 месяцев назад
I agree, I think people need to look at the overall experience not just the raid difficulty.
@SwedetasticGames
@SwedetasticGames 10 месяцев назад
Also, as someone who went from Clicker to Cutting Edge in WoD, yeah the raw skill cieling for Mythic (outside of outlier like ToS or Mythic Azshara/Jailer) is lower than most people think, however the time committement is obsurd compared to anything else in the game. When I did that journey I was in school, so I raided Mythic 3 days a week, raided chill with my social sideguild 3 days a week, and pugged on alts the 7'th. Legion and BfA with all the Artifact Power grinding made it pretty much unfeasible for me to bother, and after chill-raiding Mythic in Shadowlands (guild got stuck on Blood Council), I quit after Nathria out of boredom. Dragonflight I just heroic raid, and this current season I've actually had fun in M+ for first time since Legion and I've gigageared 2 chars and now guild is on break until 10.2. If I wanted to put in the time and effort to clear Mythic I could, but with those hours put in and the hard-commited time, I can instead relax and play other games or level and gear alts for some refreshment in gameplay feel, or go and derp around on Classic for a different gaming experience. The gear, and espescially visualls, of Mythic gear compared to normal raid gear since WoD is simply not worth putting in 5x the time and effort for.
@MALITH666
@MALITH666 10 месяцев назад
I think they should be a button to - 'Turn off immersion color for boss spells'. For example, like you said frost theme boss and room, but if you turn off the button from settings. Now frost spells will display in a purple color. or say fire theme boss, and if you turn off button you(only) will see fire spells in a blue color. That way immersion players can keep their immersion, but for people like me, I can turn the button off and focus on the raid.
@boinghot
@boinghot 10 месяцев назад
Same thing with others spells, just let me remove them
@Torlonus
@Torlonus 10 месяцев назад
I wonder if maybe they can just upgrade different slots each raid. Say the first raid is chest, gloves, and earrings; second is pants, shoes, and bracelets; third is weapon, hat, and rings. Makes the previous tier's gear worthwhile while still giving you reason do the next tier. Might need some transmogs for the slots so it doesn't look weird until you do all three tiers but seems like an option.
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay 10 месяцев назад
A better solution is just make mythic gear transmog only and introduce a high end (+20) m+ recolor. Then cap out item level as heroic and sadly lower drop rates across the board for both raid and m+. This will slow down item level inflation by quite a bit which also stops the massive power creep between tiers.
@luckygozer
@luckygozer 10 месяцев назад
Not sure a middle ground solution really works here. In the current seasonal system it doesn't matter how long you didn't play wow for you can jump straight in and do the current content with your friends. In the old system you had to work your way up through the raids. You make a hybrid system and now when you jump into season 3 you are still undesirable to a guild all the same because you don't have the bis items from previous tiers.
@SwedetasticGames
@SwedetasticGames 10 месяцев назад
Ulduar is not hard at all by modern standards, however when you compare it to any boss from Vanilla or TBC and even revamped (absolutely laughably autowin) WotLK Naxxramas rework, the mechanical difficulty difference in staggering. I can think of only 2 bosses in there with less than 6 important mechanics that if you mess them up, will wipe you. Add ontop of Wrath having objectively worse readability for a ton of effects and attacks, and a ton of people quit.
@MORGATH99
@MORGATH99 10 месяцев назад
he aint wrong , the dude was carrying to get a long boy
@lorecraft64
@lorecraft64 10 месяцев назад
I'd like not easy but simple, a more streamlined wow experience I guess. Love mythic raiding and I wish I felt more enticed and encouraged to explore other aspects of the game.
@digxx
@digxx 10 месяцев назад
I'm not sure Scripe was being sarcastic, but I honestly think, that Asmon, in principle could do it, but he chooses not to. He would have to put some effort in, regardless. But then again, this might hurt his viewership, because ppl don't watch him for the high-end content he gives, but for the entertainment, and this one will suffer if he switches his focus on being a pro gamer.
@chrisjones658
@chrisjones658 10 месяцев назад
Bro some of the people in my CE guild are fucking awful. Asmon plays better that they do when he's watching 50000 people chat to him on his 2nd monitor. He had the most achievement points in the entire world in WoD, had a 100 parse on mythic in one of the fights and has more CEs than 99% of the playerbase. He's not a WF raider but he could easily be a HoF raider because he could literally play 24/7 and never have to worry about income.
@Scripe
@Scripe 10 месяцев назад
I wasnt being sarcastic and I agree with you.
@Ephemeral96
@Ephemeral96 10 месяцев назад
Asmon cant do it. Dude is out of touch with WoW and people are holding his opinion in high regard like its burning crusade lmao
@lukee9360
@lukee9360 10 месяцев назад
He literally used to mythic raid lol. I don't even really like they guy, but he def could clear it. People act like it takes insane skill to clear heroic... LOL @@Ephemeral96
@chrisjones658
@chrisjones658 10 месяцев назад
@@Ephemeral96 He has cutting edges from Legion and BFA? Other than SotFO, the game is certainly no harder since then. Well raiding isn't. M+ has for sure gotten harder.
@irevisibel9237
@irevisibel9237 10 месяцев назад
Both Asmon and you are correct, Blizzards PR-Dpt. on the other hand seems to have been kicked out 5 yrs ago looking at all the PR/Marketing-apocalypses (and the hilarious or non-existing actions). The silly statement regarding Asmon - while no biggie - should simply NOT happen if you’re an exec/professional of any kind. Not to mention how the company as a whole (including the notorious CEO….) handled the sexual harassment-scandal - that was more than a “biggie” and was coped with in an unbelievably bad fashion.
@kohlicoide2258
@kohlicoide2258 10 месяцев назад
Tbh this actions reminds more off stupid teenagers on YT how want to shitpost their content creator because they say something they dont like.. sorry but this is for me very unprofessional
@Elypsen
@Elypsen 10 месяцев назад
tbh when you spend the night wiping on the same boss, run backs and rebuffs takes way to much time when you know something more efficient like ff14
@domperry4175
@domperry4175 10 месяцев назад
One way to keep gear from earlier tiers relevant would be to borrow the heroic+ approach taken in classic wotlk - so you can still get items from the previous raid tiers from current content (e.g. from current season m+/raid) but still provides a benefit if you carry them on from earlier tiers.
@Ventryl
@Ventryl 10 месяцев назад
But the gear is literally useless after 1week of the new tier
@u3pyg
@u3pyg 10 месяцев назад
One interesting idea that I heard - Make M++ (10 men mythic raid of the m+ dungeons). That way you have like 8 more raids for small guilds/groups.
@vicsterX
@vicsterX 10 месяцев назад
I think this video is the most 'middle ground' reaction from a top 0.1% players on this issue. Scripe doesn't have to wiggle around to form a counter arguement on certain issues (like devs fumbling with the design of the game) that majority of the players face. In Max's case, IMO he can't call out most devs for doing an awful job and always trying to be the devil's advocate is because he personally knew some of them, he even went on and said Mike Ybarra occasionally stop by his stream to meme around, so that again IMO, stops him from calling out the devs. Sure, I've seen a couple of times where he disagreed with the devs but saying 'this is bad' in joking manner is not really a criticism.
@gala5000
@gala5000 10 месяцев назад
he knows like 1 dev in person, mike is not a dev he has no impact on the game whatso ever, and he frequently calls out devs for bad shit but he doesnt shit talk them sure.
@Arntor-kf9hi
@Arntor-kf9hi 10 месяцев назад
Hear me out. Mythic is a cosmetic only difficulty. It is just for prestige and unique sets. Heroic becomes the defacto cap for ilvl and this would help with ilvl bloat and would also remove the drive for mythic gear that some have.
@luckygozer
@luckygozer 10 месяцев назад
Why? Who does that benefit?
@Kakashi20xd6
@Kakashi20xd6 3 месяца назад
That is sort of how FF14 handles things with Ultimates. Meanwhile, a casual player can eventually get the same ilvl gear as a Savage raider it just takes a little longer due to weekly currency caps.
@Amphroxia
@Amphroxia 10 месяцев назад
maybe an item merging system could fix the problem with gear becoming obsolete, for example you have the beacon from sarkareth, and by combining it with a trinket from the next raid you can turn the beacon into a higher ilvl version equivalant to the sacrificed item? maybe this will become convoluted tho, but at least it would keep the old raids relevant in some way. imagine getting a 447 storm eaters boon tho POG
@TS-uc4hi
@TS-uc4hi 7 месяцев назад
Mythic+ gives heroic gear, and has some of everyone's BIS in it. The catalyst exist, allowing you to get your full 4-piece without ever setting foot in a raid by converting dungeon gear. And if you do at least up to +18s, your vault drops mythic gear. You can be decked out in Mythic raid gear, tierset, and damn near full-BIS without ever having to see a single raid boss. M+ is great, it's my favorite part of the game, but the loot being so good and so easy to get makes raiding far less incentivized now. Current BIS is 489, and one could easily hit 486-487 only doing M+ and filling vault every week for a couple months.
@Alstadiwh
@Alstadiwh 10 месяцев назад
20:51 so true, I'd probably do some PVP if my character had the same abilities as in PVE, but have to think about new keybinds for pvp talents etc.
@rasmachris94
@rasmachris94 10 месяцев назад
Gear resetting is why i havent played in months. I joined in SL took a break and came back for DF so I'm pretty new all things considered. I did my first raid in DF, M+ and everything was going fine. And then I remembered that in SL the reason i took a break was because the gear that I'd started farming to prep for lfr was instantly invalidated by the 226 in zerith mortis. I paused playing DF to think about whether it'd be worth my time; I realized it'd take 4 ish months from vault drops to get my gear [since i cant rely on drops in raids], seasons last on average 6 months so I'd only have the gear i want for 2 months or so before i need to restart the grind just to keep current. I havent been back since. I dont think that gear should be evergreen like it is in GW2 because the vertical progression is what's fun. But i also dont think it should be invalidated patch to patch, makes it feel like a treadmill. I think that a decent compromise could be that the highest raid gear of that patch overlaps to some extent in the next patch and overlaps into the next expansion. So let's say you have gear that starts at 100 and increases by 20 per difficulty; Normal raids give 100, heroic 120, mythic 140. The next patch gear starts at the 2nd tier, so normal 120, heroic 140, mythic 160. Last patch following the same pattern, 140, heroic 160, mythic 180 leading into the next expansion where it starts at the mid end of the last patch [160]. This still means you have to do the content, but in theory a raider who does mythic raids in the first patch is able to start mythics in patch 2 and heroics in patch 3.
@mccoyrj452
@mccoyrj452 10 месяцев назад
A great example of having gear be relevant the whole expansion is in TBC. Spellstrike Hood and Legs, and Belt of Blasting were crafted epic gear that you could obtain outside of raid. Spellstrike come 100% from outside of raid, and Belt of Blasting came from T5 raiders who had extra materials, but all were BoE. The reason I bring these up specifically is they are NOT the best piece of gear at the end of the expansion, no where near in fact, BUT, they were something you could work towards without raiding and would remain GOOD the entire time. It does not need to be every single gear slot, but even if it is only a few, that helps onboard more players into raiding. You can replace these earlier with some Tier pieces or a drop, but having those means you KNOW that you can bring some level of power and be confident in that the whole time.
@user-nz4un6se7y
@user-nz4un6se7y 10 месяцев назад
Our current mythic gear is on par with LFR level of gear of the new raid on PTR. What do you think this entails? I heard them say it's cool to maybe have some longlasting items but right now this becomes even less so with the fast gear progression problem they're trying to solve.
@atticusrob
@atticusrob 10 месяцев назад
in regards to the gearing system, i can see both your perspective and asmons. Gearing every 4 months is annoying but obvious it has to exist to an extent so i think what blizzard need to do is think of the long game and make gear from for example the next expansion 11.0 continue to build power up to 11.3 instead of replacing the same item with higher ilvl just make that gear gain power over time. Still add in new trinkets or weapons etc. But if someone wants to use a build from the beginning of the patch relevant at the end of a patch the game would feel less like having to start over and more exciting to try new builds and if it doesn't suit you, play your current set up. Same goes for tier sets, some of them force a playstyle (like buffing unused talents) that people have to reroll a new class/spec or just quit the game.
@Steve-cc8zg
@Steve-cc8zg 7 месяцев назад
First of all, your RWF was insane. I have never watched one of those, and never thought for one second that something like that would be compelling. But that was a great tussle between you all and Liquid. OK, to a question which hits a bit on what Asmon was talking about. Since you have done the raids in both WoW and FFXIV, if you could mix and match what you loved about either, how would it look? what would you keep from which one and what would you ditch? Sorry if you have already talked about this and I'm just late to the party.
@Tensooni
@Tensooni 10 месяцев назад
Definitely agree with the pvp comments from Scripe. It's also the main thing that stalls me when trying out new specs. I don't like blizzard UI, so I made my own. But it takes too long to set up when I don't understand a new class, and I'm not invested enough to start this process.
@Araturion
@Araturion 10 месяцев назад
It went from Asmondgold reacting to a Venruki video about why pvp is dead and why wow is to complicated for new players and why wow struggle to get new players. To be about why Asmondgold quit rading.
@chrisjones658
@chrisjones658 10 месяцев назад
I'm an Asmon enjoyer - I do not agree with a lot of what he says about WoW or agree with some caveats - but it's hard to disagree that if all you cared about was making the raid participation go up, you make the game easier and this happens. And because a lot of the games difficulty is artificial this can be done without making it feel bad for HoF raiders and even if did make the game worse for them, at the end of the day, it probably makes the game better or gives more people a reason to raid than the 2000 people who get hall of fame. Classic is so much simpler in every way, and retail is insanely complex to a new player (both real and artificial). There's room between these two extremes and it blows my mind that a company so motivated by profit and player engagement doesn't see that their bias towards their current model doesn't maximise profit or player engagement. WotLK Naxx is a terrible raid but it was a total joke, in a lot of ways, it's probably the easiest raid ever made in WoW history. But it had more logs in those 5 months than Shadowlands got over 2 years in Normal, Heroic, and Mythic and it wasn't close.
@elaxlol223
@elaxlol223 10 месяцев назад
I think if the game is too easy it's not fun and when it's too hard it's not fun I always think of fromsoft games. I know they don't produce MMORPG's but their games strike such a good balance in being very rewarding to play(not too easy,not too hard) type of games and it's what always gets me back to play games like Sekiro or Bloodborne. Wow can achieve this balance as well it's just that it's probably not worth the hassle for them, but as you stated 10-25-40 man raids would actually solve this issue and if they do bring back 10 man raids I'm instantly hopping back into wow.
@miqotesoulia8620
@miqotesoulia8620 10 месяцев назад
good comparison from another game. Those Devs understood the gameplay element when designing a boss/mob encounters throughout your journey.
@tompatompsson
@tompatompsson 10 месяцев назад
Why is mythic always a necessity? Like you can do 10-25 man raids right now?
@genaschtes
@genaschtes 10 месяцев назад
replacing gear is fine. but replacing a 450 ashkandur with the new set feels bad. on the other it is not good to have an item from a boss from a previous raid to be bis. like old warrior soul (but it was an endboss item. so maybe thats a pass)
@Suven
@Suven 10 месяцев назад
ff gives achiemvents/titles/cosmetics for harder stuff. why not make 40 player raids give same gear as 10 man, but the 10 man has the achievements. (46:45)
@cressposting
@cressposting 10 месяцев назад
Where are the righthand cam screen gamers?
@CoreSystemDev
@CoreSystemDev 10 месяцев назад
making mythic 10 man (or flex?!) would 100% make me create my own raidgroups again (and renew my sub). cba anymore to get 20 people together but 10 is manageable.
@gala5000
@gala5000 10 месяцев назад
I honestly think the problem is theres way too many difficulties. i think it should just be normal which is really easy and gives like questing mog just so the majority of the player base can see the story but they dont get any real reward for doing it besides ilvl, then heroic can be a much harder difficulty which gave a nice mog and a mount and maybe some toys and basically just items so the rest of the player base can see these items and aspire to get them rn why would you go into mythic if you can just get all the mog from keys or weekly vault/catalyst. being a young guy and seeing a warrior with the heroic 25 icc mog with shadowmourne motivated me to want to do heroic so i can get the same gear. 2 difficulties would also help ease the sense of replacing gear so quick can have heroic only go up by like 6 ilvls each tier.
@Plethoring
@Plethoring 10 месяцев назад
Being old enough, I remember Asmongold getting top logs in Legion on raid bosses. I don't know what Mike is talking about.
@destnardanderion1150
@destnardanderion1150 10 месяцев назад
For the point of Ulduar. Its incredeble raid. But time to complite it for casual raiders is 3x of anyother raid in wotlk.
@vinaryn6064
@vinaryn6064 10 месяцев назад
I kind of liked trash leading up to bosses when I was learning how to play as a kind of newer player. with only 3 years experience, when 1st clearing sanctum and SoD some of the trash gave a little preview of what the bosses were going to do. I got Aotc my 1st season and I didn't have really any addons or weak aura's so having a mini preview to give a basic idea of mechanics helped me personally. But no I didn't need them for repeat play throughs and I think Aberrus trash doesn't really do that, or maybe I just play and played enough now I'm not as concerned with it I know what has to be soaked, ran out dodged now idk. But VoTI did some like before Kurog, they aren't 1 to 1 mechanic explanations but sort of get your eyes ready for certain things like circles that need to be moved out, or frontals etc. maybe I'm wrong but to me it seemed like the trash would get you use to the type of mechanics the bosses would do. I'm talking as more when I was casual/less experienced than now.
@Arntor-kf9hi
@Arntor-kf9hi 10 месяцев назад
They should balance the raid gear so that it takes the place of low end m+/heroics. They’d just need to quit having massive ilvl jumps from tier to tier. So instead of running heroics or farming boring world content people would have the option to do Vault to gear up for Ab and such.
@nezunskyfire292
@nezunskyfire292 10 месяцев назад
Immersion should not come at the cost of better game play. An example of this was back in Shadowlands in the Necrotic Wake, Nalthor the Rimebinder. As a frost death knight, trying to see the blue swirls on the blue ground while my character is blue from remorseless winter and a frost mage has ice orb out = wtf I'm dead 'cause I can't see the AoEs. Visual clarity on abilities should take precedent at all stages of gameplay, immersion is second after.
@sr7olsniper
@sr7olsniper 10 месяцев назад
Based Scripe take like always.
@somebodyelse9696
@somebodyelse9696 10 месяцев назад
cata did feel much harder back then, even the dungeons.
@Arntor-kf9hi
@Arntor-kf9hi 10 месяцев назад
I mean of course he can.. if you gave anyone the time they could easily be a mythic raider. Heroic raids are a joke lol. It isn’t like mythic raiding is some prestige reserved for the selected few due to some in game barrier. The thing stopping most from being mythic raiders is free time and commitment to a video game.
@montanaricky9558
@montanaricky9558 10 месяцев назад
Asman has been playing so many different games that he’s picking from each one parts that he likes and he’s basically just making a hamburger helped raid
@richardkim3652
@richardkim3652 10 месяцев назад
It all started with FF14. FF14 showed him the light and the correct path and now when he sees WoW he wishes it was like FF14 system lol.
@Chaosmite
@Chaosmite 10 месяцев назад
Cata is my favorite expansion because of the difficulty, the. I stoped playing because they added pandas into the game
@PaulRizzo504
@PaulRizzo504 10 месяцев назад
Asmongold plays WoW from a casual perspective in a hardcore way and Max plays as a hardcore player on elite high end. The Twitch audience should tell you which content gets more attention. During Mythic races the audience swells for that but afterwards drops off like a rock. Asmongold is by far the freest advertisement for WoW that Blizzard has ever had give the demographic he reaches.
@berniemargolis4288
@berniemargolis4288 10 месяцев назад
I see randos on the Blizzard forum dismissing player feedback with ad hominem attacks all the time, and I don't think anything of it because they're just a bunch of randos on the internet. When the president of Blizzard does it, though, it's unprofessional and cringey. It's no wonder that the the retail game population continues to decline when the leadership is taking that attitude. What percentage of players even do Heroic and Mythic raiding in WoW? If those are the only players that matter to the leadership, then that's the percentage that will ultimately be left over when all is said and done.
@STOREpappa
@STOREpappa 10 месяцев назад
I am now reacting to Scripe reacting to Asmongold reacting to Max reacting to Blizzard President in his chat, reacting to some comment Asmongold made previously 😵‍💫 I'm too old for this
@OldManInternet
@OldManInternet 10 месяцев назад
Ybara didn't know who Preach was when he came to do his big interview. And the company has largely despised Asmongold for a while now. So it would make sense if they tried to pivot more towards propping up content creators who enjoy the game for what it is, and try and phase out the problematic elements. This way they don't have to really change the game.
@MrDanne13
@MrDanne13 10 месяцев назад
How did u join echo=)?
@metalac7282
@metalac7282 10 месяцев назад
I played some keys with you on stream. I returned to game back from wod. I didn't play bfa + legion + half shadowlands until end of season 3. I didn't knew shit about m+ and that stuff. After 6,7 years of not playing its like dude i am retarted or something. I always played the game with 2,3 addons nothing more nothinge else, but when i returns boom 30+. There is no possible way to kill echo of neltharion without was if 20 people dont play correctly and know what to do. Asmon is not wow streamer anymore. I am seeing you , gingi , naowh, like 1,5k viewers. Max from liquid 2,5 when something is new in wow even high numbers , but players doesn't give a shit anymore for the game. Yeah rtwf is fun and i helped with splits but still that is like 5,6 days and it's gone until next patch. If you don't have a guild ( good guild ) this game sucks.
@Sonstbenannt
@Sonstbenannt 10 месяцев назад
Maybe Lizzard should make the M+ content to 10 Man. And Raids to 40 Man.
@GrandMagusDK
@GrandMagusDK 10 месяцев назад
Checkpoints at bosses, trash should be Mini-bosses instead. That alone would go a long way.
@Valkross9
@Valkross9 10 месяцев назад
Not a WoW player, but... IMO they should make BIS gear relevant for half the expansion, not the whole expansion. Because if it's for the whole expansion, there would be no reason to farm the next raid. Or current BiS should just equal heroic gear for the next raid tier, not Normal raid gear.
@Youtubestolemyname99999
@Youtubestolemyname99999 10 месяцев назад
They should have made a brand new game after Burning crusade like wow 2 or world of starcraft or something instead they decided to go with endless expansions for easy money. If you have played both bc and wotlk you are aware they each got smaller and smaller but bc was fine wotlk was this tiny space like 20/1 th of azeroth
@stjon1333
@stjon1333 10 месяцев назад
Part of issue is there are too many versions of the raid LFR. Normal. Heroic and Mythic, back in vanilla the world was a bigger part of the game raids were like this far off destination, places like Blackrock Mountain BRD. UBERS. LBRS and the raids were the best ever have never ben duplicated
@vPzWalkerx
@vPzWalkerx 10 месяцев назад
I think people are a lot better at games now than they were back in vanilla though. If the raid difficulty is the same in retail as it was back then it would be easier than LFR difficulty.
@kohlicoide2258
@kohlicoide2258 10 месяцев назад
Tbh i quit Raiding this season in WoW.. not because it was to hard, but everything outside the raid was annoying.. we just start finally progressing Elder Rashok on Mythic and i have a blast and was so exciting to see more but nope. "Oh sorry, i have no time anymore." etc.. just some punch of cowards how want to get some mythic clear but when you reach the first boss where you literally have to progress like you should. Some people have "no time anymore" it was never because it was to difficulty.. but at some point it was just straight up annoying when you waste more time for searching a new guild etc then raiding.. because to be honest.. it is really hard to find 20-25 people how are ready to raid Mythic until CE. I literally quit because it was to frustrating i was never a top 1% player but sure i can atleast manage CE after 2-4 Months with nerfs and better gear.. thats the reason why i always say im just a "Casual Mythic Raider". It can be funny when Games are frustrating because the Bosses are rly hard.. i mean.. thats one of the biggest reason why Fromsoftware (Dark Souls etc) exist :D But when most of your frustration comes from stupid things like.. find a new guild.. find new player.. grind boring content you dont enjoy.. then something is wrong, and that was the point where i literally say.. "Nope i take a break.. maybe i come back.. maybe never." Games should make have fun.. and when the negative feelings like frustration or anger way bigger then the good feeling that you get after you finally beat a Boss something is wrong. just my 2 cents To the requirements.. true.. sure for some people it is maybe to hard.. but i think many people just dont want because it is a to big time waste for them
@Nwm00100
@Nwm00100 10 месяцев назад
54:30 well, thats called streaming :D
@DifunctedReble
@DifunctedReble 10 месяцев назад
31:00 Thank you for touching on the unprofessionalism/"weirdness". An aspect that the replies, across social media, of Blizzard fans handwave. In any industry if the President-in-title singled out a person it would be seen as out of line, but for some reason Ybarra gets a pass.
@pipin90
@pipin90 10 месяцев назад
Same. I can grind and get best M+ score I want, but is not fun to me. I don't even care. People I know get crazy about being "better", but... for me that's so lame.
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay 10 месяцев назад
WoW hasn’t really gotten harder as much as it’s just gotten faster. You can find it with anyone that comes back from multiple expansion breaks, for most players things just happen too quickly.
@vPzWalkerx
@vPzWalkerx 10 месяцев назад
True but it depends how far you go back because a 1 button rotation has turned into a 12 button rotation. Sure thats faster but its also a lot harder.
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay 10 месяцев назад
@@vPzWalkerx well, I mean people wanted their abilities to actually do things ….
@vPzWalkerx
@vPzWalkerx 10 месяцев назад
​@@poorwowgameplay Im not saying more buttons = good or bad simply that the game has gotten harder over the years.
@poorwowgameplay
@poorwowgameplay 10 месяцев назад
@@vPzWalkerx I know and I’m not entirely disagreeing with you. I’m in the camp of if you need a rotation tracker and WA to achieve competitive damage on a class then they need to streamline it. Like a lot of folks talk about MoP having the best playing experience, but it was legitimately bloated and homogenized. Which was something the new trees have brought back.
@mrbubbles6468
@mrbubbles6468 10 месяцев назад
They are actual reasobs. By his own admission he’d hate it in Classic if the bosses in Classic weren’t so piss easy you never had to deal with most of the stuff. His entire issue is it takes too long for nothing of value.
@alexandersalinas8455
@alexandersalinas8455 10 месяцев назад
theres a reason why wow took out 40 man raids
@TheRealAb216
@TheRealAb216 10 месяцев назад
personaly I dont have hours to raid and wow is played mostly by people with jobs and family life who also dont have time to spend hours in raid. the only people who can spend all that time are those play wow for a job
@drscott7359
@drscott7359 10 месяцев назад
I watch Asmon cause people may disagree but he is pretty rational and knows basic truths like- nothing is new etc, anyway WoW people cannot see basic concepts and are so tied to their “life” so strange to me how defensive people get about a game! It’s like they forget to play for fun and joy, not a freaking lifestyle- and that mindset just has so much built in bias. The freaking numbers don’t lie, and since blizzard profits up it will stay the same.
@fiesbert5677
@fiesbert5677 10 месяцев назад
@46:10 if raiding is fun enough there is less need for a loot incentive. WoW needs loot incentives because it is not fun playing
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 10 месяцев назад
Anyone that has followed Asmongold for a while knows he can do Mythic Raids easily.
@solaufein3029
@solaufein3029 10 месяцев назад
I didn't follow him. Can you elaborate ?
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 10 месяцев назад
@@solaufein3029 Sure, he did the hardest raid content in the game since Wrath of the Lich King Expansion up until somewhere in BFA. Uldir i think was the last raid he did. He almost never died until wipe was called and almost never got hit by important mechanics at the mythic raiding level as dps warrior. There are plenty of clips on his channel from legion showcasing this. That enough for you? It's always funny when people think Asmongold is bad at the game. He is not, he just chooses not to engage in the hardest content for reasons he explained in the video. He may not be the top top pvp player, but he can hold his own to a decently high level ~2600 even in pvp. If you can do that across the board in the game, you are simply not a "bad" player.
@solaufein3029
@solaufein3029 10 месяцев назад
So he did clear mythic ? Mythic Uldir ? Just legit didn't know.@@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne
@bojnebojnebojne 10 месяцев назад
@@solaufein3029 Yeah no worries dude. I'm not sure if he finished it, or quit before finishing Uldir. I believe there should be some clips on his channel from it if you want to know. But he cleared Mythic Raids in Legion and all the hardest raids prior to that. That i know for a fact coz i watched it myself.
@fokare692
@fokare692 10 месяцев назад
He was a mythic raider in Legion and if he cared and put in the time I'm sure he could improve back up to the mythic level but as it stands he is not great. There's a VOD out there of him going into normal Vault of the Incarnates that's 6 hours long, where he eventually gives up and does not kill Raszageth normal. He did mythic at some point as well and you can see he has like multiple GCDs where he's pressing nothing.
@callmevil
@callmevil 10 месяцев назад
20:00 u missed the point completely.. firstly, his issue is TOO MUCH DOWNTIME. Those bullets are just examples to show downtimes.. 2ndly, sure those bullets may not be much and u can even say they are nothing.. IF youve been raiding daily for the past year, imagine raiding daily for the past 5yrs and still having to do those bullets every single time.. the frustration will only grow..
@hervelaville6940
@hervelaville6940 10 месяцев назад
We talk about addon be bad for the game but I think one of the reasons wow he still in is because of addon
@Youtubestolemyname99999
@Youtubestolemyname99999 10 месяцев назад
With every expansion the game just got bigger and lose the initial BIG quality game and hardcore wow is just that good because its the Biggest wow ever and also hardcore thats a plus plus
@c.krueger9530
@c.krueger9530 10 месяцев назад
Why does someone's opinion matter only when they were able to finish the hard content? That's just stupid, especially as the president of that gaming company.
@21Komtur
@21Komtur 3 месяца назад
There never was any real lasting progression in wow
@erinhardick1362
@erinhardick1362 10 месяцев назад
Is my 17 years of money and time less valuable because I no longer raid?
@Sonstbenannt
@Sonstbenannt 10 месяцев назад
Blizzard pays raid guilds and caters towards them to keep the remains alive. No more to say.
@viniciusPatto
@viniciusPatto 10 месяцев назад
Asmon is always changing he's opinions, he is like wow joe rogan. Classic is coming out *OMG I LOVE CLASSIC 🤯🤯🥵🥵📈📈📈😱😱😱, BLIZZARD LET ME INN* New expansion announced: *OMG THEY HEARD US, OMG THIS IS AMAZING, FINALLY DUDE, OMG 😍🥰🥰* 2 months go by and *YEAH WOW SUCKS, BLIZZARD HAS TO FIX THE GAME, THIS IS UNPLAYABLE (NAME A PROBLEM) HAS TO BE CHANGED, IF (NAME A PROBLEM) WAS REMOVED THE GAME WILL BE TOTALLY FINE*
@PentaHousen
@PentaHousen 10 месяцев назад
His 4th points are simple. Why should i waste time when someone in my group fuck mechanic of the boss. In vallina bosses were joke and monkey could clear it. Yes 0,1% of players who wasted their time on game can clear it, but what about other players.
@Nagassh
@Nagassh 10 месяцев назад
Asmon's experience of Cata was completely opposite to mine, raiding felt more accessible than ever. Cata almost made me quit because the rolling nerfs to raids, where every few resets a 5% nerf hit EVERYTHING regardless of if it was justified or not made the raiding incredibly unenjoyable. I don't know how it wasn't accessible though when you had those nerfs killing things for you if you couldn't outrun them and 10man was an option by that point with gear parity. MOP was significantly more challenging and saved the game for me after Cataclysm's raiding was so disappointing it almost cured my addiction. Persistent gear is such a bong take. Imagine starting playing the game, or rerolling in the 2nd / 3rd tier or just getting unlucky and having to try to get your raid team to go back to T1 to get your BIS trinket or some shit. WOTLK was miserable when you were having to go back to Ulduar even after it ended just for legendaries, the last thing we need is that spread over EVERY slot. Normal replacing Mythic is bad, but people asking for their T1 gear to persist in perpetuity is such a fucking dumb take.
@IrishBiteGirl
@IrishBiteGirl 10 месяцев назад
Max knows the devs irl, hangs out with some of them and has them in his streams... This is why his opinion on WoW is always positive. His takes are mid because he cant afford to give any real take.
@drekor884
@drekor884 10 месяцев назад
I think FFXIV did it much better. You have tomestones and normal raids for the regular players. It lets you experience the raid and get gear that is within like 2% of BIS (lot of times market bought gear is BiS) with a difficulty that is low enough that people normally just matchmake it with. At the same time there is savage difficulty to challenge those looking for it and give a slightly better reward both in power and in cosmetics(savage gear looks the same but it's dyeable). So you can still feel better than the normies but at the same time the normies don't feel left out or even feel forced to engage with a system that can be very annoying.
@zuehs
@zuehs 10 месяцев назад
i dont play wow anymore.. but why do you need 7 mages if the gear from the previous exp does not get instantly replaced? imagine raiding the new tier with the old gear plus some new items. less grindy for rwf and reward your efforts the previous raids.
@hallogrow
@hallogrow 10 месяцев назад
Between mike Ybarra downplaying his employees salary/wages and now this? Out of touch or just a troll of a leader/pers.
@andrejskulepa6224
@andrejskulepa6224 10 месяцев назад
GDKP what ruins the game. It destroys casual player experience.
@brandonkruse6412
@brandonkruse6412 10 месяцев назад
Let’s be honest, Asmon has kept WoW relevant for thousands of people over the years whenever Blizzard couldn’t keep people interested. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve quit this god forsaken game only to get drug back because of an Asmon video. Asmon has spent the better part of a decade making his own content via community events because the content Blizzard puts out feels more like work than fun. Nobody wants to watch a guild clear high keys or mythic raid. But they’ll watch a mount-off or transmog competition. They’ll watch a streamer kite a dragon into Stormwind and wreck the server. These are the people Blizzard should actually be listening to. The ones that want the game to be good but can’t force themselves to login anymore.
@Youtubestolemyname99999
@Youtubestolemyname99999 10 месяцев назад
Oh right yeah he is the face of wow for most people How could i forget that the transmog contests and his endless meaningless mount grinds right
@Koranthus
@Koranthus 10 месяцев назад
@@RU-vidstolemyname99999 Did you have a point? Because it sounds like you are sarcastically disagreeing, but you don't add any counterpoints. OP isn't wrong, regardless of whether people hate Asmon or not.
@manfredzwick5278
@manfredzwick5278 10 месяцев назад
President cant even clear the intro campaign so who is he to talk?
@Amonieyt
@Amonieyt 10 месяцев назад
I don't understand the "no addons" argument. Even if you ban all addons ingame, people will still use addons. Either they cheat or use an external 3rd party program on their second screen to read out the game's data. You just move the DBM/BigWigs timers to your second monitor and you can play the same as before but more complicated and unnecessary difficult. For RWF guilds a outside raidleader like Scripe could set up stopwatch timers to announce abilities and stuff. Having no addons won't fix people having no addons it just makes the life more difficult and annoying when you want to have success in raiding. Which makes the game less accessible and it's the complete opposite of what you want to achieve. Also: Saying that Asmon can't clear mythic is so dumb. Bro was Rank 12 Arms Warrior in Emerald Nightmare mythic and was something top 100 Warrior in Nighthold mythic overall. That's something our precious Qwik aka Mike Ybarra never peaked at any given point. Of course he can easily clear a Dragonflight mythic raid which are way easier than the Legion ones.
@ich3730
@ich3730 10 месяцев назад
you can see it in FF14, players will ALWAYS tinker with the game, if the devs want it or not. We are humans, we love to customize our own stuff, thats why modding/add-ons/custom skins will always exist for any popular game
@ProtossOP
@ProtossOP 10 месяцев назад
The point is that if Blizzard officially bans addons like DBM and so forth, it will force them to make bosses that are killable by most people without addons. Like the guy above me said FFXIV has Cactbot, which is an external tool to help with raid, but you DON’T NEED it to clear bosses. On the topic of RWF guilds, who gives a shit what they use? 90% of players don’t set foot in mythic raid because of difficulty and logistics, and it only gets worse from expansion to expansion. Another reason why participation went down is because mythic raid is designed for RWF(with all the addons in mind), which again is like 100-200 people at best, it’s fucking stupid.
@Freestyle80
@Freestyle80 10 месяцев назад
The argument of easier raids would bring back players is bullsh*t, Aberrus is literally the easiest raid released since EN, have we seen a massive interest in doing it? no, we've actually seen a quicker drop off because the good players dont find it fun and then the other players dont get groups. Aberrus will also NOT be memorable at all, there's literally no memorable fight. The difficulty thing is already solved through difficulty modes, if people feel bad they they cannot do higher difficulties then by that logic a game like Remnants 2 also needs to remove Nightmare and Aplocalypse mode because people cant do it?
@thomasgreed9581
@thomasgreed9581 10 месяцев назад
asmon is right ,retail is made for 0.1% of players
@Cuntholz
@Cuntholz 10 месяцев назад
Over 10k views but just 200 likes😂😂😂
@sirbonobo3907
@sirbonobo3907 10 месяцев назад
Ybarra can´t even make good games.
@sandblade
@sandblade 10 месяцев назад
i click dont recommend asmongold, dont recommend asmongold clips, and i still get recommended reactors talking about him on 10 different channels.
@ArmageddonEvil
@ArmageddonEvil 10 месяцев назад
I think the Blizzard's President isn't a true gamer and only a money man. Lol
@filipfenix
@filipfenix 10 месяцев назад
he literally sold ingame boosts
@ArmageddonEvil
@ArmageddonEvil 10 месяцев назад
@@filipfenix Yeah, and his bad takes were so out of touch. That PR had to try to say, Mike Ybarra didn't mean that! When he so did mean that, if he didn't know who Preach was that means he doesn't care about the fun in the game and only the amount of money the 'peasants' spend on WoW/Diablo 4/etc.
@r.gletscher5162
@r.gletscher5162 10 месяцев назад
@@filipfenix So he is a true gamer lmao? Cant get any more stereotype mythic raider than selling boosts.
@ich3730
@ich3730 10 месяцев назад
​@@ArmageddonEvil Only a hardcore minority of any game actually consumes more content about the game outside of it. Normies and casual players only play the game, then log off and do unrelated stuff. Pretty safe to say most WoW players dont know who preach is.
@Cliodhna-z1i
@Cliodhna-z1i 6 месяцев назад
Reacting to asmongold is his goal... he's a rage baiter and clearly is using mental stupidity for money. I never listen to him seriously. Most of his logic is kind of very primitive and boring
@mcshamkraken4448
@mcshamkraken4448 10 месяцев назад
I don't really enjoy Asmongolds content delivery, even when I agree with something he says. Asmon delivers his speech a little like shock jocks, nearly always hating on the game. He is one of many content creators that's been saying WoW is dying or dead.... like for 10 years. Name ANY game that had stayed relevant that long. In this Ammon take, he says CAta too hard, then indicates that hardcore popped off.
@thesunthrone
@thesunthrone 10 месяцев назад
But he is right. Cata WAS too hard - that's why they kept nerfing it every patch! At launch, Cata 5man heroics were crazy in comparison to what they were in Wrath. You needed hard CC on every pull, you couldn't just AoE like in Wrath heroics. That's the content I did at the time anyway, and all the nerfs are why I quit - I was finally having fun and being challenged in the smaller scale, and they just removed that. And sure, later on they iterated on it but damage was just done - how else do you explain the subscriber numbers falling off the cliff? The reason why Classic Hardcore popped off is because it's just... leveling. You're leveling. You're leveling until you die, and then an addon/the server basically deletes the character. That's it. There are no mechanics, nothing - it's just you doing the absolute baseline thing you can do in WoW - level, and how hard it is entirely depends on how you play, how many risks you take etc. It can't get more entry level than that, and it's an entirely self-imposed rule. There is no reward for it, only the social challenge of it - and that's why people do it.
@miqotesoulia8620
@miqotesoulia8620 10 месяцев назад
love seeing the hate watchers in here for Asmon. Stay in denial lads, dude has clear mythic fights before and can do so again if he so chooses. He just doesnt want to give your DSAG game any free viewership. Enjoy that HC regurgitated content 🤣 .
@liamwxyz3114
@liamwxyz3114 10 месяцев назад
When a guy with 40k hours in a game can’t give an opinion.. How are these fanboys real?
@miqotesoulia8620
@miqotesoulia8620 10 месяцев назад
@@liamwxyz3114 sick account name. that your 12th one troll?
@eodyn7
@eodyn7 10 месяцев назад
Blizz Prez isn't wrong. Asmongold is a scrub.
@Freestyle80
@Freestyle80 10 месяцев назад
I dunno why everyone is suddenly pretending like Asmon is a high end mythic player and a R1 PvPer but he just chooses not to do it that was never even his focus in the game ffs, stop clouting for him (and i dont mean scripe himself but there's a big thing going on right now that Asmon is secretly a very good player but is 'hiding his power' -_-)
@ArmageddonEvil
@ArmageddonEvil 10 месяцев назад
Yeah, he's a casual mount farmer when he plays World of Warcraft. lol
@Kevmoeman
@Kevmoeman 10 месяцев назад
Mans killed mythic gul dan, he's boosted in pvp but hes certainly capable of doing modern heroic and mythic
@biray4710
@biray4710 10 месяцев назад
Because he was a high end pve player. He was doing guides on youtube long before he even started streaming.
@coolyeh1017
@coolyeh1017 10 месяцев назад
I think historically he was a hardcore pvper (ranked 1 for a short time I believe) and has cleared mythic+ raids. However, it is clear that he makes a lot more money and garners more influence reacting, doomposting, overreacting, and playing other games.
@aroix2667
@aroix2667 10 месяцев назад
Buddy it’s not a secret thing or something people pretend. He use to raid lead cutting edge guild up to legion nighthold and have gotten glad on many seasons these are facts not something you can argue or lie about
@anba9499
@anba9499 10 месяцев назад
trump was president once remember that
@Pokasquantas
@Pokasquantas 10 месяцев назад
Asmon's takes are just not valid & this is a waste of my time.
@Makeingmoves
@Makeingmoves 10 месяцев назад
Seem to have alot of time if you go out of your way to watch the video and comment on it.
@Pokasquantas
@Pokasquantas 10 месяцев назад
If you could look at my timestamp it was about 1:30 into the video I stopped watching @@Makeingmoves
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