Blizzard, This Is Why People Don't Want To Come Back 

You know those folks you mentioned at the 20 minute mark? You know those are fake fans right?

Just get with the program dude

@@kero2422 can you make sense?

​@kero2422 I love this just lay down and accept it mentally. Who's a good lap dog yes you are

@@kero2422 So what, I'm supposed to forgive them for not refunding my preorder and stealing my money? Come on man, at least have enough self respect to stop licking their boots when they screw other people; they'll screw you next if we don't all hold them accountable for blatant theft.

Thank you!

I wish 😢 fingers crossed some people take this note. If I were a CEO I'd take a regular salary instead of up my margins. I don't need to be rich to be happy, just comfortable.

Microsoft is squeezing every penny out of blizzard

Every company does this and it’s sad, the people sitting at the top give themselves pay raises and take it out of everyone putting in the real work. And when people want to be payed more, they take it out on the customer by making them spend more money.

Let be real the balance guys for this sad excuse of a sequel can’t balance for shit every patch When I used to play made the game worse and worse, not to mention them lying for a year about pve when they knew it was canceled. Sure Bobby was terrible but the devs were the real reason this game is terrible

@@jh23rangers71 if there was more money to pay the devs instead of the CEO, they could actually hire people who are good at their job and keep people around who gained experience.

now you know where all the fired Apex devs got hired

@@MaynardKeenanX more like they hired riot employ and this is not a joke.

​@@You_are_wrong99 fun fact many team leaders including OW2 Balance Team are from different games and genres And it turns out great when you employ people who doesn't care or understand the product they are responsible for

@@therebelfrogy9287 OW balance has been aweful for years. They make the same mistakes again and again and again. Im glad they got someone from a whole different genre in maybe they will actually figure out what is going wrong and fix it.

​@milamber319 The balance is awful because they don't care about the balance. They care about skins, because skins are now the sole revenue stream. It isn't going to change.

Yep. They banned my 2016 account 5 months ago that had all my skins on it. Then they re-released Pink Mercy shortly thereafter...? No coincidence! /s

I was permanently banned because I said the CEO was bad and they rejected all appeals. They are banning people for the silliest reasons HOPING they'll make an alt so they can then brag to shareholders how many "players" they have.

blizzard doesnt know how to make games anymore, those games are chores or just empty shells of a past time. i left wow because they made it a grind to play and they gave nothing in return for all of it, overwatch was good from 2016-2018 wow was 2004-2020 BFA was better then SL and DF. blizzard is dead.

this is another good reason as to why fomo is just a bad practice its flawed in every way.

The death of OW1 ruined my group of friends. We used to play almost daily and now most of them aren't even online. Bringing OW1 back is literally the only thing Blizzard can do to get me back.

i miss my the dynamic as a tank duo 😢 me as zaraya: i miss u rein ❤

i play it with my friend each day, we just finish our dailies so about 1-2 hrs and yeah its fun. :)

@@sirbarther unless you mean bring back 6v6/lootboxes, bringing ow1 back will just put us back into a solved meta and it would just be straight up removing content like new maps/heroes

and thats if they don't just keep adding more

Actually sad to say, erd tree is a rush half finished mess, woulda been a great comparison otherwise... ^^

Well said

ceos move on to next game 🤣🤣 why not?

Which one though? You have to be more specific. WC3? WoW? OW? They do this concerningly regularily.

Overwatch 2, where we take a player off your team! Give you less maps! More cash grabs! And less fun..

Don’t forget the false promise of a pve that was the reason for the sequel, which was cancelled I believe it was a few months into ow2 and they kept quiet for much longer for the money they wanted

First time?

@@danielalvarez1230 that's why it's an excuse for a cash shop. It was supposed to be a sequel but became a bastardized re-release

Peak capitalism

Welcome to corporate business. Don't work for corporate.

@@wrongtime9097 unfortunately the options are very limited because of that

Dont forgot half of it goes to HR departments who make life horrible for the actual workers and only serves as a glorified daycare for adult children on a power trip.

@@davidmccall4024 if you made really bad life choices, maybe

Rare self-awareness from Blizz who knew their embarrassingly thrown together PVE so they can't be sued for false advertising was utter rubbish

People traded paid gameplay additions for sparse "free" content to offset the salary costs to the whales over a decade ago. I'd go back to paid map packs and expansions in a heartbeat if they came out at the same rate that "seasons" do for most games. Plenty of options they could use to help keep the communitg together (only host needs the pack, loan licenses, have cosmetic purchases earn dlc and additional game copy credits.

Whales

It gives you a perspective

dont forget, fire more employees who were actually making the game

​@@S3nCh4nand then pay bonuses for CEOs

It's like hyperinflation except backwards

Even gacha games needs to have quality to make money. Good Gacha gane devs clearly understand these and make great games

There's more sheep 🐑 buying skins than haters. They even nerfed Kiriko after being meta for 10+ seasons just so they could sell more Rein hammer skins.

Ironic that coming from genshin player. How is your pity and 50/50?. At lest ow player don't need to worry about that.

I kind of worry Bethesda has fallen to this cancer, sure we have free mods now... but they already added both Bethesda and Community Made Microtransactions to there games. Will it go full on Minecraft Bedrock with Elder Scrolls 6 and lock most of the Modding Kit behind there creator program? Just start filling the store with crap? Paid mods is such a slippery slope as much as I love seeing really talented modders a lot more talented with this stuff then I am get paid for there work,we already believe the modders on the Creation platform are only getting a like a 30% cut which I think is garbage and should be getting more since modding is basically the foundations to there games. We know these paid creations are making Bethesda A LOT of money that I don't think it is going to get any better.

@@arcadeportal32better off supporting modders that have patreon/subscribestar

It's like videogame companies are now ran by Wall Street bankers instead of passionate game developers. Horrible.

@@Dat_Jonx It really stinks how the passion for making good games for most big devs is just gone. I mean if they wouldn't fire whole studios, groups for not making the line go up enough even though it made a profit would prob bring devs who actually care back. Why would good devs work for these companies if they don't have Job Security.

More like the cancer of being a publicly traded company and needing to appeal to shareholders

Like with WoW, I wouldn't mind playing an Overwatch 1 re-release. (I'm not interested in paying twice though, so they'd have to give me it for free, meaning little incentive to them to make it)

For me, the patch that made Symmetra a brain off character by giving her the escalating lock on to her weapon was the downhill. As a matter of fact, Blizzard reworking that one character 4 times is proof of their disorganization. She was honestly fine in her day one form with a few tweaks. Let her keep 6 turret stock but give them 4 health points. The teleporter was fine. The shield generator, it tweak with a time limit and shorter range limit. Don’t change how her weapon works but it did need a slight damage buff. Let her keep the flying shield thing that her E got changed to. I’ve had so much time to think of better changes to each character than Blizzard would put effort into and they’re paid for this. That’s how much I loved OG Overwatch. And they killed it.

@@MaztRPwn totally agree with you, the constant ana nerfs now after 8 years of not touching her at all while her kit doesn't even fit in the current direction the game is going in (high mobility, high dmg, tank and supports being glorified dps now) further proves your point, these people have no clue what they're doing

And it's built from 90% of your old car.

But it's basically a fully online pvp game...why would you ever think you controlled any of its future? It's much different than a tangible car that can run or be fixed independent of a manufacturer even if they decide to stop producing more.

My favorite part is that now, you never paid $60 for a game. Now that it’s free, and cosmetics are harder to get, you paid $60 for any amount of cosmetics you could’ve gotten.

Helldivers or a weapon skin lemme think...

@@Battledongus Or V Rising...

OW2 could work as a great PvE addition if Activision didn't wanted to squeeze money from profitable franchise right now instead of giving it time to finish and shine again.

That is why I spoke with my wallet and refused to cater to this bullshit.

It doesn't matter that you won't pay. Paypigs will gladly finance all this slop and make sure that no big company ever makes something respectable again. You lose when you play and you still lose when you don't play

We at Blizzard hear you, that's why we are making Overwatch 3. Yes, it will be 4v4.

Watch them charge a subscription for it because they know they can reel is suckers like me who abhor OW2

Keep dreaming summer child

Yep they got rid of loot boxes that people were so pissed about. In Overwatch they were not even a bad thing at all btw, and now we have extremely costly skins.

@@minuette1752 yeah i just played alot and could earn almost all of the skins during the events those were the days

We didn’t realize how good we had it until they took it all away….

Playing the game and being rewarded? I am appalled you'd even think that. That drops profit margins by whole percentages!!

It is almost if the game changed its Business model to f2p OH wait They did

whatever is reasonable is what the free market deems it is if someone wants to buy a 2000 dollar skin then they feel that the skin is worth that

Wow I thought with the steam sale I might get Diablo to finaly see what all the fuss is about this comment saved me money! Good to know this greedfest isn't just limited to overwatch.

Substantial content. I'm not paying $40 for a weapon, or any useless cosmetic bullshit. As a customer, I see zero value added for $40+.

I mean it does what WoW did and continues to do all these years , milk the shit out of whats left of the playerbase. It works so far for them so I think its a good move , if you think about it the OW2 team is pretty huge but the OW2 playerbase is.. well , kinda low for the amount of effort they put into this game , I hope they go ham with cosmetic and in-game purchases perhaps that way more ppl realise that the Overwatch spirit left with kaplan , and its not gonna come back now or ever.

They should have just not made it F2P. Microtransactions have been proven to only really be a way to get the company money. There's no game there outside of playing yourself to get an extremely overpriced piece of DIGITAL content that can and will be irrelevant once the servers get turned off. It's like going to a store to buy a shirt or shorts or even shoes that just dissolve after 1 year no matter what. You can treat them well and have it last longer. They just go bye bye. Poof, nothing. They can keep the shop, but don't make earning the points so difficult. The only way you can even start earning those points is by using money to start the battle pass, and even then if you don't want to pay for the next pass you'll have to use the points you earn for the next pass. So unless the skins you like and only like or want to use are in passes you're S.O.L. if I'm gonna be paying to earn content, I might as well be paying for a full price game to earn it the hard way. Can't believe I'm saying this but I would rather lootboxes be in the game still. But blizzard wouldn't want that because that would mean earning coins instead of paying for them outright. Paying for just the core game and ALL outside pieces of content being paid for is not worth. I give destiny flak a lot, but at least the core game you get for free can actually give you access to a fair amount of stuff. Is it a lot or even good compared to the stuff you do pay for? No not all the time. But at least it's there.

you can literally play the game for free. these skins dont matter. they are extra gravy if you want to support the game.

@jarenagra2804 this is not a good take lmao. There's quite literally 0 character progression in the game. You can level up a character and get a higher number. And if you can brave comp then you get access to count em up TWO weapon skins at max. Since when did core games only involve just playing the game and literally nothing else? Why is character progression not a concept for "core game" mechanics? Do they want their players to not feel as if theyre earning ANYTHING when playing a character for hours? Cause if that's the case then they've easily achieved such a feat lmao

Blizzard catering to virgins that don't know porn exists...

@@Battledongusbut they do know, that’s why they made the skin

@@emma6648 But the porn can be found online, for free. Why pay for it? (kidding, if you can support the r34 people definitely do, they work harder than Blizzard on their stuff lmao)

becouse its a fun game, simple as

Stockholm syndrome

Because there are gamers that are in denial about their addiction to a company that is trying to exploit them. A company that pretends to care about social issues that had sexual assault allegations, discrimination and racism allegations, toxic work environment allegations, a company that silenced gamers speaking out about human rights violations, that company.

lgbtq media

As crazy as it may seem to you, there's still a good amount of people playing. And that's despite the horrible steam scores.

The big difference is overwatch has 40 characters and almost everything you get is locked to one character. If they tried the same pricing they would get butchered. And it's already bad enough how it is.

WHat are you talking about.... blizzard is the only company that deserve to not make money, no matter how much other companies charge you for a skin... LoL deserve to have those 500 usd skins but not blizzard

The difference is, many people paid full price for the game before it forcefully became free2play. And no riot also doesn't deserve those eypensive bundles. When a "microtransaction" costs as much as a complete game, it is not a microtransaction, but a complete ripoff

@@pingger1de1tl somethings value is up to the person is it not for u it may be a ripoff but for someone else it may be a good value people value different things at different amounts after all if everyone thought it was a ripoff it would fail

@@admiralkaede something being good value is irrelevant of personal preference, but instead determined by production cost, sale price, quality and alternatives to spend money on. Looking at $40 weapon skins with animations, I would rate the production cost somewhere around $ 10000-90000 The skin will likely be sold several 10000 times, but even with only 10000 sales, you'd have profit of at least 3 times the production value, but in reality more likely more than 10 times. I very much consider this a ripoff, when we, the players, effectively pay multiple times the production cost. Alternatives to spend money on? Entire ganes, or looking riot: entire computers!

As an investor that is exactly why I don't pump money into triple A studios/publishers. Publicly traded video game companies were the worst thing to happen to gamers, if you think games like helldivers won't give way to this eventually think again. The only devs worth supporting in my financial opinion are the ones who are not publicly traded, the reason for that is if the devs screw up there is a real time cost to that mistake and your staff are more inclined to inform management that what they are planning is a bad idea. There is no difference between a heroine addict and a triple A studio/publisher. They are always chasing that short term fix to satisfy their need to chase the pink dragon more.

For investors, their expectations are not really unrealistic, just cynical. You have a bunch of money to put somewhere, and the baseline is the stock: you could spread that money around for 5 years and get an average return. Or you put it in a game company for that same period, but then you want that investment to do better. The S&P 500 has returned 163% over the past decade, investors want games to do better than that. It sucks, but it’s what you need to do if you want those investments. Of course, companies could also use their own money to fund development, but then a single failure could sink the whole ship. The solution then would be smaller, cheaper games that do not represent such risks. Question is, are players willing to go down that road, considering how addicted many are to better graphics, larger open worlds, etc.

@@alfyb4512 "The S&P 500 has returned 163% over the past decade, investors want games to do better than that. " That's now how successful investing works. Did you never hear Buffet's quote about how the stock market is a transference center for money from the active to the patient?

@@anitasarkeesianvidconboogi9711 But that’s how speculation works and that’s what most Wall Street investors do. None of those people are in for the long-haul, willing to be patient to nurture better businesses in the future. That’s what changed when we shifted to games costing tens of millions to games costing hundreds of millions.

It happens because it works. Some people gladly shell out 1/10th of their paycheck on their games every month. All of the other people with brains have to suffer because of them

I completely agree! How are people seeing $40 for a digital cosmetic product a fair exchange? It’s lunacy 😂

Same, I had nearly 2k hours in OW... bet I haven't played 100 hours since they killed it.

So because you're broke and couldn't spend 40 dollars on a modern expansion at the time, Blizzard "lost you"? You dont seem the like the smartest tool in the shed.

You expected to be able to play the xpac for free? They moved the vendor because that's how it worked in EVERY XPAC. If it was new behavior I would agree but it's not. The vendor was in azeroth because that's where cata was based in. If you want current PvP gear you need to be current on the xpac. Clown logic bro; Blizzard has many faults but not letting you play their game for free ain't one of them.

@@dakota9821 How is me being retroactively gated out of content I PAID FOR clown logic? Also where the hell in my post did I say ANYTHING about playing the new expansion? That was literally the entire point of my rant is that I did not give a crap about the new expansion and had zero desire to play anything from it and just wanted to focus on completing my pvp gear set for the previous expansion. Great job not reading.

Like tf2?

Because It is a good game despite its issues.

​@@bijanebrahimi7228'Good' is too strong a word to define what OW"2" is.

@@TheHellsingHQif it wasn’t “good” nobody would be playing it and people would’ve forgotten about it by now.

​@@bijanebrahimi7228no it's not. There's just too many people unable to let go because of sunk cost.

@@MrHoneumalook how far you have to cope to hate on this game Yeah dude they are playing it because it’s like someone being forced to use a boat they spent too much on Lmao

Seasons can be good, but only if that content remains available long term. But then there's no FOMO to drive playtime stats up and we can't have that!

@@VeshSneaks In that case, it's more a regular content release schedule. That's how older games did things. Basically, any game that has any digital content for a "limited time only!" is engaging in, as my old economics teacher taught me in the 90's, artificial scarcity, a bad thing that destroys trust in a business over time. They listed a number of example cases, products intentionally designed to break, and how manipulative and unethical it was. The thing about digital is, ANY scarcity is artificial scarcity.

@@VeshSneaks the problem is you woulld divide the playerbase between like 12 different arcade modes