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I'd say that was the one enjoyable thing about the map. The new version of the song. It brought more depth to the original and had just as much feeling to it which was honestly great.
I was such a fan of Mob of the Dead that, living in California, I begged my parents to go on vacation in San Francisco to visit Alcatraz. It happened, and that time of my life was absolutly euphoric. Such an experience both on my computer and in real life.
“Why’re we overcomplicating that?” Sir we started the storyline out with an element turning people into zombies and they managed to turn it into. 20 DIMENSIONS, SHANGRI-LA IS ON MARS. THE CYCLE IS A SIMULATION. And you’re complaining about how a moving pack-a-punch machine is overcomplicating things?
@@spoongaming9507 the problem is that in Bo1 for example the easter eggs were difficult and complicated but enjoyable because the gameplay, with the old perk systems and the not tedious pack a punch path, was much more effictive and simple than Bo4. I think the mistake of Treyarch was making the gameplay of Bo4 as difficult as the story with the all new perk system that nobody asked and pack a punches that required hours and hours of game; in fact imo the same errors were made with gorod krovi, zetsubou no shima and revelations in bo3
CyberJam98 Honestly, BO4 was not a bad game. Of course it wasn’t the best but it was still a pretty enjoyable game. Literally nothing got overcomplicated, I love that they are trying to change things up for once instead of going for the same game each and every time.
@@BrownBear636 I love origins, I love it more than mob, which is also arguably the best map of all time so either one of the two was gonna get butchered, but they could've made origins even bigger, which would've been awesome if it wasn't bo4
And instead of just having a plane, who not have several steps to get teleporter parts that teleport you to the bridge and the boss is like brutus but as a giant a d some new abilities and like previous wonder weapons, like bows and staffs, why not have something like elemental hammers or even a elemental swords
General trashYT that’s literally referring to all of zombies before they changed it up for bo4 when nothing was wrong with perks and the hud and just everything why were there so many changes keep it the way it was we’ve loved it for a decade the way it was
@@JohnSmith-wh2ob but bo4 did offer a lot more than any game before it the ability to customize your gameplay and game style ,the old Perk machines and the new system are nothing different we act like if we ever switched perks once we went down, we g up and ran and grabbed the same 4 perks despite having multiple perk machines and a wunderfizz,the way they did it was your going to use 4 main perks anyways why not cut out the running around and just give you 4 main perks that you can choose from,the game got so ridiculously easy with bo3 especially with gobble guys, what before did right was punish you for using elixirs as the more you used then the longer it would take to regenerate,vs gums you could keep spinning as much as you want ,the difficulty on bo3 wasn’t as big as the difficulty in bo4 you had more enemies to worry about and more tight areas than bo3,they also added something to balance all the advantages a player can have by adding a hardcore and a realistic mode something zombies players don’t touch because it’s hard making it past round 5, apparently it’s way to hard,it also did the customization thing as you choose how you want to start op or not, vs bo3 your forcibly started op with perkaholic and rain drops really ruining the progression, with bo4 everything was option you didn’t have to be op at the start,bo4 has more of a harder game element that previous games,it definitely was a step in the right direction,just ppl didn’t like the fact they couldn’t have jug and if it wasn’t for activision the game would’ve released at a later time with a lot of stability fixes and could’ve had a better life cycle
@@JulioHernandez-vi9to Did you just said that in BO4 you choose to be OP and in BO3 not? Dude, what have you been smoking, in BO4 even if you cripple yourself by picking the most trash weapons in your loadout, you literally spawn with a wonder weapon And I love how you say "In BO4 you choose if you wanna be OP" but then you say that you can't do that in BO3 because of Gobblegums, I'm not sure what were you thinking when saying "You're OP becuz you start with Perkaholic" when that's totally customizable, in BO3 you ACUALLY can choose wether to start OP or not, in BO4 you just start with a wonder weapon on cooldown and you can't choose to not have it
The whole aether story in bo4 was a giant letdown after the epic quest we had in bo3. The game play definitely was a giant factor in why blood failed also.
SpiderMonkeyNuts it might not have been the ending people wanted but it fits very well with the story of zombies. With everything being in a constant loop
If there wouldn't be that much glitchey or players who using glitches having no skill it would be great and a better search player list if you leave a lobby and join like 15 sec later i join the same group it really sucks
I think what makes Mob of the Dead one of the best Zombies maps ever, (and what makes it interesting,) is the fact that it takes place in Alcatraz, a real-life prison. And because of it's unique and deep story!
Alcatraz is definitely the coolest idea for a Zombies map they’ve had, but that’s hardly the only reason. MOTD also had (in my opinion) the best group of characters, the coolest version of Revive to date, an actually functional Hell’s Retriever/Redeemer, one of the sickest wonder-weapons ever made (and the base version could probably be made IRL if you really wanted to), and the best artistic theming in Zombies to date (MOTD is both scary and low-key depressing which is perfect). MOTD nearly perfected all aspects of a Zombies map right down to the fabric, and it remains my favorite map of all time for that.
Treyarch treated BOTD as a safety net to insure that older players would come back to BO4. They made it too familiar and yet so different (in the wrong way). Honestly, they could have just kept the old story and brought back the old characters while still including elements of the aether story to it, but in my opinion they overcomplicated everything and made it really difficult to love a map that was so highly anticipated.
Weelllll I mean that's the problem with using a celebrity cast. They may not agree to return to remake or even create new quotes. And you can't use their vocals again without payment or permission.
@@joeygrannemangranneman2033 damn that's a really good point. I'd hope they would be up for it due to it being such a big hit among fans, but I would understand if they were working on other projects.
Joeygranneman Granneman exactly what happened with Malcolm McDowell AKA dr Monty, who didn’t come back for BO4 to do any voice work and actively refused, hence why Monty was never seen talking or doing anything really outside Alpha Omega’s ending, further restricting the zombies team on what they could pull off with the story, alongside Activision’s budget cuts.
@@zombies4evadude24 I mean Activision was pretty ol’ grumpy always drinking during work and harassing the women meanwhile they were forcing Treyarch with a new black ops 4 game with new zombies mode as well. Treyarch had no idea how to continue leading it so to be safe they made aether story and chaos story. Nobody liked chaos story, so they stuck with aether story and it got bit dry from there. Finally ended the aether story once for all with a mediocre ending instead of a fucked up ending.
Got a fan made for this: After being trapped they would have turn on power and try to find a way out. They would eventually start gathering parts. They would fight and fight until the warden captures them and the ghost frees them and they run to the rooftop and builds the plane. They fly off but hit the bridge. They would encounter Brutus and the boss fight would happen. Post revelation Richthofen would come and save Primis. The ending cutscene is shown.......
@@philippxphilstructionz9348 everyones opinion is subjective, something most of the community views as bad is still a subjective opinion no matter how you spin it.
I really like the map, I do agree that its not as great as mob but its still pretty good by itself. The new areas (apart from the spawn) where good additions, and isnt "unnecessary", as they give 2 box locations, a dog head, good training area, a work bench, magmagat upgrade, pack a punch and a really good trap. The catwalk was a very good risk reward part, its a tough walk through it but it gives you a lot of points. And I like the flow, going down to the second power switch makes sense as it takes you through shield locations and its the first main objective for the map. But I understand why people don't like it that much and respect that.
@Just Another Guy it’s late but I couldn’t agree more. I’m so tired of hearing people in general complain about BO4 because their favorite RU-vidr said they don’t like it. They complain about the maps being tedious and complicated yet maps like mob, origins and shadows are tedious fetch quests and they are always in their top 5 maps. If you’re going to hate on BO4 that’s fine, but have a more original and specific reason than “the engine”. My god have I never heard a more vague and generic reason to hate on a game
You should def play mob of the dead. Usually it’s people who haven’t played these games a lot that like them. I respect your opinion, but you should try to check out the OG
“Dad, you’re playing BOTD!? Can I play with?” “I’m not playing BOTD,” tears come up, “I’m playing something different, I’m playing a BOTD that should’ve happened...”
Genuinely bo2 was the best time for me personally in zombies. The maps tested my skill and the story was interesting to say the least. Then blundell came in, and zombies changed. It was no longer about a crazy mineral that had weird properties and electricity. It became mythical and magical. Not only that, but the maps he helped create run BO2 and BO3 were maps that any player could play, and they offered a lot in return. Whether a complete noob to a veteran player. Mob, origins, buried, and all of BO3 zombies, they were all inclusive and anyone could play. Then Bo4 came and mucked everything up, continuing a story that should’ve ended in the previous title, and introducing a new story as well as a completely new system that was no longer inclusive. This new system pushed people away, it made the game harder to play, and forced those who were loyal to grind long hours or to spend money to win, the weapons were no longer good and wonder weapons were a joke to say the least. I understand the new system with the new story line, but it just didn’t belong in aether. Black ops 4 was over ambitious, poorly executed, not handled properly, and was a poor excuse for a money grab. I’d say bring back the good days of zombies, let console players have mod and custom map support, and bring back jug. But honestly zombies is just to far gone for me especially with BO5 supposedly bringing the goddamned Aether story back... AGAIN!!!! God!!! Why won’t you just die already!!!!!
Shane Tressler I’m ok with bo5 bringing the rather storyline come back as long as they fix the mistake they made in origins by “killing” Primis and Ultimus off.(in quotes as you mentioned it will be coming back so I hope they aren’t dead for good.) I was so disappointed with where they honestly left Arthur after dragging its name through the mud. I think it deserves a bit of redemption just to bring it to a respectable end instead of missing everything such as the Great War, dr Monty, post revelations richtofen and so on.
In my opinion, im just tired of Blackops titles its like..be NEW do something DIFFERENT FOR HELLS SAKE. Sorry im just so sick and tired of these "Blackops" titles. For god saks we've been on that title since 2010 its time to get a new one.
New pap is “over complicated”(shooting a thing with a shield) but building a plane and flying over Isn’t. Respect ur opinion but that point is just hypocritical to me
If you look at the progression of both maps it’s obvious that building the plane helps to create a sense of escalation and pacing. Each part has a simple requirement attached to it. Once it’s finished you get to go to a fun training area that switches up the gameplay for pack a punch. Once that’s done all you need to do is find the fuel canisters near the original part locations, they’re not hard to find and none of the parts are complicated to get. Blood’s system on the other hand is build a shield and shoot a thing. On paper this seems more simple but the fact that the PaP moves with 0 indication of where it’s moved to is just inexcusable. They had a perfectly good model for moving and it in Call of the Dead. It’s a matter of sloppy design. In terms of accessing PaP Blood is obviously quicker but long term you waste so much time running around aimlessly only to engage with a PaP system that already feels like a bit of a time waste.
It might not live up to Mob of The Dead but it’s pretty good on it own merits. Aside from the unnecessarily bigger layout, moving pack a punch with no indication of where it is, and the removal of past elements that made mob of the dead fun, Blood Of The Dead is pretty solid.
I feel the story was actually excellent, and was needed in terms of continuity, but unfortunately a lot of the areas were implemented only to serve the story and nothing else. A player who doesn’t do Easter eggs will never touch the Wardens house after the magmagat, or Richtofens lab aftwr spawning in. They needed these areas, but also needed to implement them better in the map
While technically BOTD is based on MOTD, I think you can see it in a while different light if you think of it as a separate entity. They were not trying to make MOTD remastered, which is why so many things were changed. The characters, the bridge, the boss fight, and so many other things that made MOTD unique were removed, and I think that was probably a good choice. These are what made MOTD unique. BOTD would not be a unique map if it copied everything over. The bridge was cool because it was original and unique to MOTD. We had never seen anything like it, but now we have. It would not be original or unique if they had simply the same pack-a-punch scenario. While I do agree that the starting room is pretty irrelevant unless you are doing the easter egg, I do disagree about the Power House and New Industries. There are plenty of things there, including a power switch, Pack a Punch location, mystery box location, a dog for the Hell’s retriever, and a perk. And this doesn’t even include the easter egg steps that go on there. There is plenty of stuff to do there in earlier rounds, but not on later rounds. I do not think this is a fair arguement to make, as like in pretty much any other map including MOTD, once you are set up, you will pretty much stay and camp or train in one place just like in BOTD. I also do not see a problem with the addition of the Warden’s house. This is very important for the easter egg, and is also important for the magmagat upgrade. It is very ideal for that upgrade process, due to its small and linear design, which makes the lockdown more difficult. I really can’t think of another place on the map where the upgrade process could work, and the house is so small that you really aren’t losing anything with its inclusion Now, in regards to the Hells Retriever, I do agree that it is not worth it, but I would consider this a problem with BO4 and would not blame BOTD for this. Anyways, those are my thoughts. I really think they were in the right in changing up MOTD. They could not just do the same thing for BOTD, as while it may have been really cool to see a MOTD remaster at first, it quickly would have become forgotten, as there would be nothing separating it from its predecessor. This is BOTD, not MOTD, and if you look at it that way I think it is a really good map.
People only dislike it due to MOTD comparison when it was never supposed to be a remastered anyway. Its objectively great but bo4 has some flaws like as you mentioned the hells retriever , where its not worth it to trade away your wraith fire. Honestly it would be a S Tier map aswell but bo4 mechanics, which make the maps far easier and then you have the hellion salvo aswell .. thats why i put it in B Tier. If you dont compare it to MOB then i see nothing wrong with the map itself besides the bo4 mechanics but thats honestly with most of the bo4 maps. I think they are all solid ngl
I disagree about the West Grounds being irrelevant cause in my opinion they’re the best training area in the map with one of the best traps for high rounds
I really liked Blood Of The Dead because I had never played Mob Of The Dead because I did not know that it existed I always thought Blood Of The Dead was the first map of Alcatraz. I do enjoy most of Blood Of The Dead but, I am starting to realize that it is not as good as I first thought but, I still enjoy the map
Blood Of The Dead is A-/B+ Tier map but if you really wanna compare it to MOB and what BOTD is missing in comparison then still atleast C+ Tier. There is objectively nothing wrong with the map itself besides not knowing where PAP is - rather just gets dragged down a bit due to BO4. BO4 got too much hate when in reality all maps are solid. The changes nobody asked for are not as bad as everyone makes it out be. Some changes make even sense like the specialist/5x PAP/pointsystem. Only the equipment/not being able to have a secondary equipment is bad because it makes the hell's retriever/monkeys etc useless when in reality the wraith fire is just better. The zombies spawns and movement is subobjective if you like it or not and that will eventually break the map for you, but i really have no problem in training with zombies. Oh and the biggest flaw of bo4 the hellion salvo. Already why every map on this game couldnt be a perfect map sadly.
so imma tell you a detailed topic of why BOTD is a bad map so stop fanboying lets look at the BOTD pros shall we The Emotional Ending Cutscene The Adrenaline of the catwalk... at the start of the game The Magama Gat and quest The Hells retriever quest .... and that's it now let's look at the VERY LONG list of the BOTD cons lets look into it shall we The irrelevance of some part of the maps Example1:The Docks all the way where you turn on the 2nd switch who in the living fuck dick will ever go there after you setup I guarantee the devs saw that there was nothing there so they put a fucking spoon upgrade that should've been in the prison, they changed the spot to just change it Example2:The Wardens House after you get the magma gat there is no fucking reason to ever go back there cause 1.its a death sentence after round 25 cause sprinters will %100 try to corner you in the 1 zombie wide hallway 2.you have no space to train in there 3.it doesn't matter if there's a quest thing that you can do there, they could've thrown the magma gat step INTO the prison so again wasted space Example3: The First Power Location the only fucking thing that is relevant about this play is the perk location... that's it The High Rounding ...fuck me in the ass this is probably one of the worst high rounding attempts I've ever played in Treyarch zombies I will admit that the workshop is suitable for high rounds but since its black ops 4 and since the ZOMBIES in bo4 after round 50 spawns in super sprinters, what are super sprinters you ask, super sprinters are basically sprinters but faster than Usain bolt the problem about this 1.they will 100% fuck up your train 2.if you get caught off guard they will try to corner you and try to down you in a second cause they will swipe at you fucking fast 3.The Zombie Spawns speaking of zombie spawns let's talk about that gondola right now there was a reason to pick the gondola instead of running from the warden's office down to where the docks 1.its faster 2.its a kinda relief travel but in BOTD there is no reason to go on the gondola past round 20 because the zombie spawns in bo4 are so fucking fast that they will 100% spawn in front of you in large groups leading into a down it's not like "wow I suck dick if I was better I could've avoided that" but in this situation, it's like "I literally couldn't do anything else there " and I know your gonna say "why don't you just use the magma gat" well you can but it's inconsistent sometimes when you shoot the ground the zombies will ACTUALLY run to the projectile and other times they will completely ignore it and run straight at you this is a grand problem and will lead to a death that will annoy you so now imma give you 10 seconds to see the big ass mammoth in your room 10 9 8 7 6 5 4 3 2 1 there's no bridge, there is no fucking bridge they got rid of it remember crafting the plane getting on the plane and then riding it to the bridge, and then PAP was there, what a fucking reward...not there anymore that's all gone matter affect there's a MOVING PAP where you have to get 3 zombie souls and then shield blast the electrical outlet at the roof, devs why are we complicating that. The bridge tho it doesn't make sense to have it in BOTD is still a MAJURE piece gone oh and let's talk about that spectral shield right now they replaced the afterlife which was the highlight of MOTD and replaced it imma say that the blast to kill the zombies is REALLY good but the way to activate it to put the key into the shield to shoot the blast...WHY ISNT THE KEY ALREADY IN THE FUCKING SHIELD LIKE MOTD and also the upgraded spectral shield the only thing it helps about is that it takes 5 more hits and it takes 2 more ghost blasts...that's it unlike the upgraded shield from Gorod Krovi it's SOOOOOO fucking strong and it takes more than 4 shots... I think oh I forgot btw the hells redeemer the process to get it not even fucking worth it, literally have not even gone for it, I looked up a tutorial to see how to get it, not even fucking worth it, you might as well just get the monkey bombs or the free ones. Cause the hells redeemer is useless and that's another huge thing gone I know that I'm more talking about gameplay but sure imma talk about the story too I like the BOTD story but personally, I love the MOTD storyline you have these 4 monsters that are trapped in this endless cycle of purgatory that was created by the shadow man and they try to escape the island that was inspired by a real escape, which in my opinion is way more intriguing than the BOTD storyline I feel like they could've just left this map fucking alone, I wish that they never remade this map I wish that BOTD never existed cause it was its own entity, like SOE Shadows of evil are its own entity you have these 4 people that sinned and were placed in this hell hole of a zombified Morg City which is pretty interesting and please for god sake do not remake SOE if I had to give this map a rating I would give it a 4.9/10 E Tier
@@kellomies7897 "the irrelevance of some parts of the map" lmao so much wrong stuff its actually crazy. high rounding :DD laughing my ass off One sighted view is also a nice thing - you see people actually like to camp to in the china alley and camping there makes the hells retriever/redeemer really valuable because of picking up drops when spaming magmagat/acidgat (i also dont have the problem of zombies still coming at me, funny because that happend with the acidgat while shooting with it on MOTD 2 days ago). When camping in the ice grotto on TDT makes the stupid explosive dolls even a valuable option, then clearly the hells retriever/redeemer is one aswell here. It was never supposed to be MOB and its also not as good as MOB but it doesnt have to be. Just nostalgia hurt feelings i guess. You have your specialist, the acid/magmagat and victorious tortoise so clearly when zombies are infront of you after using the gondola it really shouldnt be a problem. I really dont have any interest in going on at all lol
@@kellomies7897 holy fack nobody cares about your copy and paste opinion with wrong information like in this video. I dont think you even played this map lmao You gonna comment this everywhere every months? We get it you dont like the map, but we dont care. Zombie community is full of trash like you. Map is great, we enjoy it and can explain and not just copy and paste. You dont like it? Cool comment it once lmao lil child obsessed with a zombiemap. You already took a nice L here just leave and stop embrassing yourself
Blood of the Dead (how I wish it was) Spawn: Finn: what the hell? We broke the cycle Sal: Weasel, you killed us? Weasel: yeah... about that I- Billy: stop talking, let's get shit done Actual writers would do better, but that was an idea that came to my head. The map could've been an upgrade in graphics- nvm, I'll take bo2 graphics. Then Richtoften and the gang could've been behind some sort of door (cotd) or in the cells they get sent to in botd ee. We would play as the mobsters after they broke the cycle. Maybe the easter egg could've been referencing motd or maybe cotd if they went with the behind a door approach and it would've referenced an amazing map.
Brent Kirkland I feel like Billy interrupting Weasel wouldn’t really work and feel forced. Richthofen interrupting them would feel much better in my opinion
I feel like this is genuinely such a better idea than what Treyarch did because in short they fixed problems that never even existed in the first place and maybe they could’ve gone off your idea and then they could escape Alcatraz in the ee and arriving in a place that one of the characters knew well like an old abandoned childhood neighborhood or school or whatever and finding themselves yet again fighting zombies and then after them not wanting to keep going and fighting zombies they could’ve ended their storyline with them all back at Alcatraz and sacrificing themselves or one person
*SPOILERS* After breaking the cycle, they were free, they were souls. Only reason why they had physical bodies was because Brutus was keeping them there to repent for their sins, hence the afterlife. in game you can control afterlife but story wise not really. what happens is that all 4 go through the cycle and when they kill al, they start over back at Alcatraz and their soul is put back into their body from the start, hence the cycle. once the cycle is broken, they all dont have to die anymore so their souls are released. So if by your "better idea" it wouldnt have made sense if they remastered the map and all 4 OG MOTD crew had physical bodies because they were long gone past their time. *this is only if you want the supposed MOTD remastred map to follow Aether storyline* if not then it wouldnt be a bad idea but it would be a map like from chronicles in bo3, retelling the story just in better graphics
Just Another Guy Oh i didn’t know what the tomahawk thing was called. Thought he saying you needed to upgrade the tomahawk before upgrading the shield.
I actually enjoyed the map. The narrative was my favorite out of any other map. The soundtrack is the best. But I can agree the Map Design was not nice.
This is not my favorite map. However, it is one of the few maps that me and my fiends had a good time on when we actually decided to play this game. Those maps were BOTD, IX, and Ancient Evil.
I really liked mob of the dead but one thing I genuinely hated about it was the Pack-a-punch, I mean sure crashing down to the golden gate bridge is cool for like the first 3 times but doing the steps is so overly complicated and difficult. Blood of the dead is simple with its pack a punch, make a shield and do a spirit blast. You get a shield AND a way to get pack-a-punch, thats fucking awesome. I do think Blood of the Dead made Mob of the Dead more over the top and cartoony much like other modern zombies maps but I think it fixed that glaring issue perfectly.
@@ibrahimahmed2963 if i am honest, i do sometimes return to the spawn room, but only as an emercency fallback point. if the zombies have blocked all other paths, i find myself retreating to the spawn room to give myself more space
I think a good way they could have kept the golden gate bridge as the pack a punch location in blood and making the spawn area more relevant is by having you find 3 codes around the map we can call them “emergency exit codes” or something like that then in similar fashion to Alpha Omega you input those 3 codes into a key pad in the laboratory on the spawn room and once all the codes have been put in, a secret door opens in the laboratory, and behind that door there is a SOE type of portal you have to press square/X to open it like in SOE and instead of the portal being blue like in the intro cutscene of blood its red , then our characters like richtofen could’ve said a quote like “gentlemen I have found a way out. quick! Jump through!” Then our characters proceed to teleport to the bridge and richtofen could say a line like “Oh no, something has gone wrong the emergency exit portal didn’t work! We are still stuck in this hellish dimension Scheisse!!!” And pack a punch would be there and if we want to go back to the prison we would have to survive a round in the bridge for a portal to appear to take us back to the prison and if we want to go back to pack a punch we would have to wait another round in the prison for us to be able to open the portal again. I think that would be pretty sick and would have gave more relevance to the spawn room and the area around it.
I remember loving this map- buuut I haven’t played Bo4 consistently since February so- I’d have to replay it to know what I actually think at this point.
“A good map incorporates the starting room” no it doesn’t, you’re just grasping at straws. Origins you barely ever go back, buried you need to teleport back, shadows of evil you never go back, zetsubo you never go back, and IX you literally just can’t get back in the little room
1. Yes, you do go back to the starting rooms for Origins and Shadows of Evil because they have Quick Revive. Unless you want to end your game quickly, I suggest you go back and get Quick Revive when you need it. 2. Zetsubou No Shima has the bucket you need to grab and some other stuff in the starting room, so you don't "never go back." 3. The beginning room in IX where you walk out into the actual starting room isn't a starting room. Stop nitpicking, that was literally just a 2 second intro to the map, nothing happens in that small room until you leave it, it's literally there for cinematic value. 4. Blood of the Dead has a completely worthless starting room. All of the other starting rooms you mentioned have some value and some have important things you need like Quick Revive. You're just proving Tim's point with your pointless comment.
@@ElectrikStatik900 out of all of those blood of the dead is the only one which starting room is used in the Easter egg. And it’s used for multiple steps and even go through the starting room to a secret entrance to get to the boss fight. Not only that but it also has a large relevance to the story and the pods are also very important. Not very tough to figure these things out.
@@neylopiesto6927 not even being a fanboy. It's fine if you like the map but some of you guys in the comment section are being complete babies over Tim's take on the map 🤣
@@BlueBlur2003 i dont think you even watched the video. BOTD is a different experience and comparing it to MOTD for 4/5 of the video + trashing the map because of it + putting in wrong information is not a valid or good opinion = just straight up hating.
I’m loving these videos man. You single handedly got me invested in zombies again (have not played since BO1). Looking to pick up BO3 W/zombie chronically soon. Keep it up!
Also you need the warden's house to even get the kills and flame to upgrade to magmagat in the first place. This guy is just full of trash and will just good things if he likes the map and bad if he doesnt
@@vergilonachair4487 what? Lmao i just agreed with you and added something because Tim said warden's house is relevant. I didnt call you trash , i called him trash
Blood of the dead is the sequel to mob of the dead. The story ties everything together. The locations you say are “insignificant” are extremely significant to the story. The lab is where richtofen created the blood vials. Mob is where the cycle was created by the blood vials in a sense. And blood is where the cycle and the blood vials were destroyed.
That wasn’t his issue with the areas. His issue is gameplay wise, unless you are doing the Easter egg, there is literally no reason to return to Rictofen’s Lab or that new area unless you need to get your Perk back. It adds nothing to the gameplay.
Loving IX more than blood, dead of the night, alpha omega tag, and ancient evil is something only people who haven't really played bo4 have as an opinion.
Honestly my biggest problem with blood is that it feels like be just wanted to jam it into the story so they could get hype. My favorite part of mod was that it was self contained. It was an endless loop of the prisoners in some kind of hell, Brutus was the guard turned zombie who was also trapped in the loop. But now when I go back to play it, I gotta think about how there’s a futuristic lab under the facility and stuff. Just ruins the vibe for me. Blood as a map tho isn’t bad.
Ngl this is my favorite zombies map ever. It’s simple, fun and I love the new design of this map. Even compared to Mob I love it so much more. The story just feels so epic to me. I love it
Drederick Alfonso dude I was so scared to buy bo4 because all I heard was the maps were trash. Mob was my favorite map ever next to gorod krovi. I got on and played my first game of blood and was amazed. I loved everything about the map now. It really feels like hell. Love bo4 zombies in general
I, personally disagree with you. There's a lot of things I hate about Blood. The ee, the lack of good training spots, the many claustrophobic spaces, you know by now. However, I respect your opinion, I wish I could love the map.
What's so sad is that you can even hear the disappointment in Tim's voice. The map is truly a one of a kind, can't be topped and yet they somehow made it worse.
My guy buliding a plane every time was more complicated than getting PAP going on this map. My guy the different areas all have a use. My guy it was never supposed to be MOB you know that right?
This map is great. Only flaw is the moving PAP. A 4th training area would have been sick too but we have 3 and a camping area (China alley). I dont know why you crying because its not MOB.
This map is great with friends but then again every game is, this map was just lazy. It’s like treyarch just add small parts & said here y’all fav map & fav characters, that should work. He explains this in the video but I assume you just went straight to the comments
ehh not the best in Black Ops 4. Tag Der Toten, Ancient Evil, and Dead of the Night have unbeatable aesthetics. Blood of the Dead’s aesthetic isn’t any different than MOTD’s was.
how come I like almost everything that everyone hates, and hate almost anything that everyone loves? I love BOTD and IX (haven't been able to play MOTD because I'm 8 years late from downloading it)
When I heard MOTD was getting remastered for BO4 I instantly knew I wanted the game. I didn’t care about anything else in the game, the multiplayer, the battle royale, the new storyline, I just wanted a remastered MOTD. And when I finally got it... I fucking despise the new Treyarch zombies.
Reimagined is not remastered and if you really hate the map because its just a watered down version of Mob then you exaggerate it like 95% of the community. Because of no afterlife/bridge and hells retriever not being worth it its bad? Its objectively still a great map, just the bo4 mechanics drag all maps down a bit. Still good.
Ive been playing zombies since world at war with my buddies i quit in late bo2 and i can proudly say that bo4 took me back to zombies especially maps like classified and alpha omega
I always have a fun time playing this map. I played MOB a lot too and on day 1 when it got released. The gameplay is lots of fun because you can do so much on this map in how you want to kill the zombies or where.
The big difference between the maps for me is that MOTD gave me SOO many great memories, For example: I’ll NEVER forget the first time I built the plane, or I’ll NEVER forget the first time I got the blundergat and got the acid gat kit, and I’ll definitely never forget the First time I got the hells retriever. But with BOTD, I hardly remember anything, it just didn’t do the same as MOTD did. It felt like Treyarch was thinking that if they gave us one of our all time favorite maps and added upon that we would love it, but instead myself and most people felt the complete opposite. Note: Nostalgia is nice, but it has to me done well in order to be well received well.
i think it comes from the fact that you're just redoing what you already did so it doesn't feel original to you so ofc you wouldn't remember it but trust me i will forever remember when i first got that blundergat and ran it across the map while keeping it lit this map is actually one of my all time favorites(yes i played MOTD and before you even ask yes i like this more i know it's a crime) it just feels so good and the story slaps imo(MOTD story was awesome too though)
I respect your opinion but for me this was my favorite map the only thing i found disappointing was the false foreshadowing of an actual battle against monty i mean its so obvious that they were headed a different way with the ending anyway its my favorite mostly because theres no special zombies just zombies and hell hounds like it used to be simple pack a punch is simple i dont have to run around the world getting plane parts every time i need to pack the magma gat is amazing even better then the acidgat in bo2 there's alot of good thing about this map if you look
Map is objectively great and people trash it like crazy only due to the MOB comparison. Even with the comparison it doesnt deserve the trashing. Only the bo4 mechanics drag it a bit down but still good map
you know what can´t dissapoint you? IW zombies *wink* *wink* since you spent 60 dolars maybe you could play some more IW with challenges, friends etc. *wink* *wink*
I agree with a lot, but also disagree with several points (personally). I do think several aspects were worse in BotD. The atmosphere, while great, is less...I don't know, mysterious, dark, eerie. The Acid Gat is nerfed, Hell's Retriever replacing your primary grenade, and Rell's Redeemer upgrade process being worse. But while I agree that MotD's PaP process was much more epic, tense, and cinematic, good god was it tedious after a while. BotD might be more tedious to move around in, but it has one of the easiest PaP unlocks of any map ever made. ModT has to walk around the whole map - every SINGLE time you want to access PaP. The plane can't just be re-entered, you have to walk around the whole map to grab the gas cans. And god, I can't believe how few people mention this. I've seen SO many people say how tedious BO4's PaP quests are, when I think BO4 has one of the easiest and most balanced. At the same time I see no one mention how MotD has perhaps the longest and most tedious PaP quest ever. You aksed why they have to complicate things when talking about BotD's PaP, but if anything BotD made it a lot more simple. While I agree that Warden's Office and Spawn should have more connections to the main island, I do like that they are seperated ares from the main prison, actually. That's just a personal preference, of course. And Spawn has quite a lot of uses; several main quest steps happen here, 2 box locations, a PaP location, a dog head location, a Perk machine, and a free Blundergat skull location. In fact, Spawn has more features than most areas in the map. And you have an instand fast-travel to get into the main island from here. BotD is also one of the richest maps we've ever had in terms of content. Blundergat, Acid Gat, Magmagat, Spectral Shield (which is almost its own Wunder Weapon), Spectral Shield Upgrade, Spoon, Golden Spork, Golden Scalpel, Golden Sporkknife (which is super tedious to get, but is clearly made for high-round players, so it may be worth it for the ones who go for super high rounds), Hell's Retriever, Hell's Redeemer, Free Monkey Bomb quest. I also think BotD has a much better main quest. I know it's not very liked, and some steps aren't well designed for solo players, and a main quest doesn't need to be very complex to be amazing. But MotD was literally go to PaP 3 times. It felt TOO simple. BotD's quest is super challenging, which is great for those looking for a challenge. All in all, I like MotD's atmosphere a lot more, and some gameplay designs are better (like Hell's Redeemer upgrade), but I think BotD made a lot of improvemenets and made great additions.
I understand the points you make, however, since I have never played Mob of The Dead, I enjoy BOTD for what it is, and I have fun with it. I am planning on getting Black Ops 2 and MOTD to experience what I missed out on.
