@@ilovewindyskirts legally they should, but courts usually drop any hearings. Unfortunately the police do everything they can and it’s just the CCJ’s that mess it up
This vehicle in this video is a small compact size automobile it's not a full size ambulance, no full size ambulance driver would ever drive like this because an ambulance is bigger and heavier than the thing in this video , the person driving in this video would probably kill an innocent person if they were to drive an actual ambulance.
@@user-id6su3nz4q they've got 7 minutes to respond but obviously they wont be taking no minute to spare to get there. Let's just hope the patient was fine :) bloody good driving tho the driver is top notch innit
@@2mdjr532 We have as much time to get there as it takes driving with the red mist this guy drove with is a recipe for accidents, surprising no one crashed in the short clip he has uploaded, we are taught to be progressive smooth and safe and he/she displayed no regard for any of these points. abysmal driving to be quite frank. @smellynoob has a fair point. Drive to arrive alive no point hurting other people.
So many people just slamming on the brakes when they'd be far better off carrying on until there was a bigger gap... I know people panic, but it seems a little brainpower wouldn't go amiss
Funny, I was thinking the opposite. So many drivers NOT stopping at places were there is a signs and lightpole in the middle of the street. They all stopped before or after giving a better way around them. (sorry, bad grammar. English is not my first OR second language. I'm swedish)
Nice to see one of these types of videos where it actually seems like there is a life and death emergency to get to. Is the siren change not linked to the horn on this car? The videos from cars where it is do my head in, that constant little beep.
Love the fact he's got music on if it was me I'd have "Heat Seeker" by AC/DC ON!! And before any one says what music!?? YOU can hear it faintly at start of video. I've been in an emergency response car (AMBULANCE service) when I had a stroke the driver took one look at me and put me in car then it was onto the M4 nxt thing I know we were doing 140MPH it was an a amazing experience and we did Newbury to RBH HOSPITAL in under 15mins!!
The law needs to be changed so that moving against a red light for an emergency service vehicle does not incur a penalty charge,if done in a safe manner.
1st offence at 00:45 - dangerous driving. You forced a member (or was it two) of the public over a red light. That person can be prosecuted and had it caused an accident, could have gone to prison. Sadly you would not be jointly charged with that offence, but a lesser one. At least you would be banned for a while to protect the public. The ONLY way a driver or rider can cross a red light is if a uniformed constable stands in the road and directs the traffic, the responsibilty is transferred to them. You as an emergency service worker have absolutely no legal right to force people across red lights. If a few seconds makes that much difference to your journey, you need to discuss the bad management of resources. 2nd problem is at 2:47 overtaking on a crossing, then the 3rd, 2:53 the careless driving shows again with almost forcing other vehicles off the road. The 4th at 3:06 . you approached the junction too fast, it would not allow vehicles turning left enough time to stop - they would not be able to see you and would not be expecting a speeding car going straight at them. If you can't see what is around that corner, they can not see you. 5th at 4:14 - far too risky to overtake approaching a junction like that. 6th at 5:20 - no consideration for the motorbike, passing too close and fast. No evidence of any dynamic risk assessment. Input is not controlled well. Not a very smooth drive. This type of invincible driver usually ends up causing an accident. The poor standard would not even be enough for a police Class 3 driver.
At 00:45, they did the correct thing which was to turn off sirens and wait patiently which is what they're trained to do. The driver was prepared to wait until a green light showed but people moved for them so they proceeded. If people move across the junction or mount a kerb, that's their issue. If those drivers knew the Highway Code, which they should, they wouldn't do it. The Highway Code states: "When one approaches do not panic. Consider the route of such a vehicle and take appropriate action to let it pass, while complying with all traffic signs. If necessary, pull to the side of the road and stop, but try to avoid stopping before the brow of a hill, a bend or narrow section of road. Do not endanger yourself, other road users or pedestrians and avoid mounting the kerb.".
Police officer does not need to be a Constable, nor uniformed, and nor a pedestrian. A sergeant in plain clothes sat in his unmarked car can lawfully give the exact same direction for a vehicle to proceed over a stop line, for example. There's a couple of sections I may have eased up on - the ATS crossing, I'm unsure if I saw a pedestrian or not first time watching, but I also know I have better vision in the driving seat than when I watch a camera, so I don't judge harshly. But otherwise, I saw a good progressive drive, excellent use of the full road width for positioning & visibility, safe overtakes, patience when necessary, no hesitations, and the system of car control being applied throughout.
Over a year onwards, late to the party is an understatement. Still, better late than never, eh? It's a long read, unfortunately, but there was a lot to analyze and discuss if it was gonna be done thoroughly, and I'm not sure how I can reduce it without omitting necessary information. I have added a TL;DR at the bottom, but if you want the full explanations, you'll need to strap yourself in for the long haul. Kudos to you if you read the entire thing! Right, let's get the show on the road with the 1st offence that you mention - from the video, the response driver follows protocol to the letter. When they have no safe path through the traffic, they stop and wait, turning off the sirens in the process. The other drivers still move out of the way, yes, but they're not being forced or encouraged into moving. When the response driver sees that this will be their best way to progress, this is when they start to move again and take the path that's offered to them. You're not wrong in the sense that it's illegal to pass a red light in regular circumstances, however if you have concrete proof that you were doing so in a safe manner to assist a responding emergency vehicle, you have a very good chance of getting the charge dropped. A police officer who witnesses this will also very likely look the other way rather than try to pull you over and prosecute you, the main reason people get into a spot of bother for this is because an automated red light camera caught them. Onwards to the 2nd and 3rd offences respectively - the lights are green, there's no island in the middle, the pedestrian is stationary, showing no intention to cross and staying back with traffic passing by, and the white car passes the nearside with enough time to allow full visibility. Don't forget, we have a different and much, much more limited view in comparison to the response driver, and we're likely to see things differently to them as a result. The road also widens further ahead and both nearside and offside traffic make full use of this to allow the emergency vehicle to pass and the offside vehicle is pretty much stopped by that point, the camera makes this look worse than it actually is. With the 4th offence, I've watched this a good few times and you can see the traffic flow is from the left-hand side turning right. I can't see bidirectional traffic flow, and this leads me to believe that the light was only green for the left side and traffic from the right should be stationary with a red light. Even if these two lights are sequenced directly next to each other, the right side could only have been green for a maximum of 3 seconds, and the response driver would have had time to spot them and stop. The fact that the left-hand traffic would be cutting across the path of the right-hand traffic adds to this, as you'd have hell on your hands with that layout if you let both of those sides go at the same time. I would also happily wager a respectable amount that the response driver knows this area better than either of us and knew with a reasonable degree of certainty that they could proceed safely with minimal chance of a collision. You're very right with the last sentence, I'll give you that one. However, again thanks to the camera, it's simply not possible to know exactly what the driver sees and doesn't see, as we don't have their exact perspective. Moving on again, to the 5th offence - the nearside junction is visibly clear, as seen in the video. The offside junction is trickier, however it would be possible to spot a vehicle waiting to pull out. Anyone who wants to turn right out of that junction would already be effectively held by the double decker cruising along, as they wouldn't have had time to safely pull out even before the response car commits. Anyone turning left is pretty much forced by the road layout to come to a stop in order to properly check for oncoming traffic, and this takes a couple of seconds to perform properly. By the time the response driver commits to the overtake, they've got maybe 3 seconds until they clear the junction, and you can see there's no vehicles waiting to pull away. Up until this point, they have a place of safety in the middle of the road or among the traffic on the left, as the white car behind the bus slows down and makes a bigger space. Undoubtedly this is still skewed a bit by the camera, so there may be even more to it that we just don't know. And last but not least, number 6, the one that's most personal to me as a motorcyclist - this one's another trick of the camera, it's not as close as it looks. It did get me the first one or two times, but this is 100% just the limitation of our perspective through the camera lens. It also looks like the motorcyclist was already aware of the response vehicle, as they were staying fairly close to the adjacent traffic when it passed. TL;DR - the difference in perception between camera and real life counts for a lot in this, it looks more aggressive than it actually is and most of the offences listed above can be reasonably explained away. The response driver's knowledge of the local area also has a hand in their driving, so it's very likely that they know what they can get away with in certain spots. If you got through this without skimming it or skipping ahead, have a nice rest for a few minutes with a cookie and some warm milk, you've earned it 🍪🥛
It’s a tricky issue but if LAS have adopted policy that matches BLUE LIGHT AWARE SCHEME then RRV should stand down lights and siren and not provoked reactions like this. It’s generally accepted that people should not be pressured or bullied into dangerous manoeuvres like jumping lights but some services and drivers still do makes calls to push on. It’s heated issue especially when children are at risk.
That’s not very smooth and was a bit rushed. Some polish and less red mist is needed. You seem hurried and the art of a good blue light run is the swan theory, you should be smooth and graceful. Not crash bang snatch. Couple of areas you nearly had issues, you comit full offside of the a keep left and pass to right hand junction at speed, that’s a big no no even on advanced pursuit as safety issue, no place of safety for you. My main fault was the speed in some of the 30mph was high and at 5.13 you speed on approach and exit is way to hurried and it appears like you positioned without view to pass the white Mazda 3 and nearly came into conflict with the motorbike who was up to centre line. I think speed was getting to the incident became the priority of risk management and so you rushed and took risks that needed of been. If you crash an rrv on the way to an incident your no good to anyone. Observations and reactions are very good it’s just pace sometimes trumps your distance to be clear and you should always be able to stop safely. You need to plan for what you can see and reasonably expect to develop. Good luck!
There’s another paramedic driver on here. When I watch his blue light runs he’s very careful with the traffic and doesn’t push people through the lights and hardly goes on wrong side of road. Tbh I find your driving to be bullying the drivers to move and bloody wreck less. Chris EMS explains what he’s doing. I’m surprised you don’t kill anyone.
I don't really see the difference. This driver seems pretty thoughtfull as well. He didn't bully people trough the lights he turned of sirens but as they made space he moved through.
@@weppwebb2885 Totally agree. It was a more aggressive style of driving compared to others but barely put a foot wrong in my opinion. They switched off sirens at the red light and were prepared to wait which shows good training. It's only because the members of public moved out of the way that they proceeded, and that's their issue and is illegal.
not very smouth with yr driving very snatchy driving and where you saw the motorbike you should of made progress after you went passed him there are a few faults in yr driving sorry mate
I agree with you on the point of there being several faults. It is precisely for this reason I started keeping some of the videos, to learn from the mistakes and recognize good practice. Please look at the others as well, constructive feedback is always welcome.