BLUETTI EB70 (gray/red) bit.ly/2Rgg70U (mint green) bit.ly/3bauZ8b use code HOBO70 for discount! FOR THOSE THAT KEEP SAYING RUN 2X100w panels in parallel: The input is limited to 8A. That means if you run two 100w panels in parallel you're throwing away nearly half the power. So you can do this but just be aware you won't hit the charge limit this way! COMPARE TO RIVER PRO: River Pro is $180 more (EB70 is $499 with my code), EB70 has 4x the battery life, EB70 has a larger inverter (700w vs 600w -- their fake 1800w trick to lower voltage can destroy appliances). River does charge a lot faster but that affects battery life. Modular battery is pointless as you can't replace the internal battery when it dies. The River has a better screen, the EB70 has better PD charging. They both support 200w solar.
It;s odd that this only has an 8 amp ceiling, the manual states you can get a full 200 watt charge from a Bluetti panel which is rated at ten watts, which is what all the other Bluetti's are. You think that is going to change? Comparing Ecoflow, I think these products are designed for different applications. Obviously if you are discharging this all the time the cycles are important. But if you're not off grid and are looking for some emergency type back up that you can easily expand capacity the ecoflow has a lot of utility. They do not recommend using that boost for anything over 1200 watts, but it can take a surge of 1800 watts. So it can use a power tool, a microwave or coffee maker if necessary. It doesn't work on induction appliances. The River 600 is only 300 dollars and is eleven pounds and can function as a real ups - you can turn the a/c on and you can plug in and run off grid power without discharging your battery. the inverter only kicks in when the grid power is interrupted. Lots of people are looking for that function now in a power station. It costs about 250 dollars to get a 60 lb lead acid battery that keeps your desktop on for four minutes. That line of ecoflow is more for the occasional emergency or get up and go outing where you might need to use a compressor or power tool once in a while and it charges very fast by auto d/c too. It's not for day in and day out use off grid though. But I think they have a definite market. For me it's a huge plus to have a real ups function. And the situations I find myself in the fast charging is a plus. I know Bluetti can charge and recharge simultaneously but they recommend not using it as a ups as it will affect battery life. I think the eb70 though was rushed to market and there will be another version. Definitely this 6-700 watt range is a good idea, as it's a big jump from 300 watts to 1000 watts in weight and cost.
@@JustVinnyBlues The EcoFlow "boost" drops voltage into the dirt. There are some appliances it would totally destroy by doing that (induction stoves, microwaves, anything with a motor, etc). The River I tested did NOT have a UPS relay in it. It does "pass through charging" which is what the EP70 does too. Be wary of their claims and limitations.
@@HOBOTECH I saw your review. I think that was the kickstarter version though, and there were actually a lot of changes between that and the production version; even in the configuration and names. I would never impugne your tech guruness and anger the tech Gods that protect you, but more recent reviews are more favorable. For one thing, it definitely has an entry level UPS function (meaning it will work on stuff in your home but probably not on a google server), and that is a grid-a/c pass through. You plug it in, you turn on the A/c outlet, the inverter does not turn on until there is an interruption in the current. This is a stated feature in their manual and specs and I have seen this demo'd on some big desktop systems. The boost I have also seen do some impressive things with power tools (by a tool guy, not an off grid guy) and it will run most appliances: coffee makers, hot plates, inverter microwaves. It won't run "smart" appliances that require a constant voltage. The overheating can be caused if you are running something that has an exhaust or cooling fan, because the heat will go up and the fan motor will slow down. But they don't recommend using the boost continuously or on appliances over 1000 or 1200 watts. The Ecoflow is really targeting a broader based consumer market than an off grid application. I've seen them sold on home shopping networks. I am interested myself in the River 600 for $300 to use as a ups and basic emergency charging. In an emergency, that fast charging is an asset. You can sit in a truck stop and charge that thing sitting under the table while you eat lunch. I saw this tool guy power a big compressor to full 150 lbs which can inflate a tire while it's on a vehicle; and run a 15 amp chop saw, refrigerator, freezers. Nothing you would do, of course. Nor is a ups of any use off grid either. But this technology is working its way into a lot of non off grid activies. So I understand why Ecoflow is selling these. I would like the eb70 but not this version. I'll wait.
@@HOBOTECH The seller recommends the user not use pass through charging with the Bluetti EB70. Can you explain just how harmful this is, and if I keep the watts going in lower, say just using a 100 watt panel, is it safer on the battery?
Have you ever been able to get ahold of the Bluetti customer service people. We've been trying to contact them for a few days now and no return email or phone call. We have short code that we cannot figure out. Thanks for the insight!
We had a two day power outage a few months ago. I was so grateful my 2400 watt Bluetti was here. It kept my side by side fridge running flawlessly. My Jackery's kept my 8 year old grandson happy. Plugged in our cable internet into it, and we stayed entertained and it kept our internet phone alive. I've collected quite a few solar generators, and I am so glad I did.
I can see the need for shorter presentations sometimes, but I prefer your longer ones. You are known for your in depth reviews and they are appreciated.
FYI, in case it's helpful to anyone: I found that an EB70s starting at 100% charge can run a CPAP at 11.5 lb pressure, plus a 12-inch table fan on low speed, for slightly over 8 hours. The fan was started a few minutes before the CPAP, and the CPAP ran for 8 hrs 1 min before the EB70s ran out of juice. So the EB70s can get you through a warm night with a CPAP.
I like your longer format tests and reviews where you include the test connecting a keyboard amp. I like your channel over the others because your reviews lets me to know which power stations are suitable for HAM radio operators and musicians, like myself. Thanks!
actually I like the in depth attention to detail that you give in reviewing products. I buy according to the information you supply. No one else is as throughout in product reviews
I was surprised when I realized the video was finished, but actually said to myself “Man, he picked a lotta info into that.” That was before you asking came on in the video. I’ll watch a half hour video, but this 13-20 minute format feels like a sweet spot.
I have been watching you for a few years. I prefer the longer version because I usually take notes. I had to repeat this one many times. Honestly I have to repeat the longer ones too. Lol. I did buy the EB 70 and the 200 w solar panel through your link. It will be the first solar panel and power station I have bought. Just waiting for it to arrive. Thank you for all the reviews you do. Many of us would be lost without them.
I'd really like to see a video dedicated to real world application. With recommendations as to which size SG would work best for this and that... I appreciate that you spell out the necessary info for us to make our own calculations to fit our own personal needs, but it would be fantastic to see other ideas on how they can be of benefit in various situations. Things we haven't thought of... For example camping uses, day use, work truck, mobile office, power outages, remote cabin, etc... or... is it worth it to spend $$ on a SG to power tools, or is it better to stick with cordless tools? perhaps both? use the SG to charge the power tools batteries? I'm sure there are many very creative uses out there. Thanks for the great vids!
ALL YOUR VIDEOS ARE GREAT!!!! Never-the-less, I know it's more work for you...BUT...I honestly learn more & much more enjoy your longer, more in-depth product reviews. Kind regards, Ben
I have a suggestion for a compromise between the people who want longer videos like myself, and the ones who want shorter videos. I think the main reason why certain people want shorter videos is because they want to get to key information quicker without having to watch a long video to get to it. So maybe posting specific time stamps (both at the beginning of the video and in your description and comments section) where you are discussing certain aspects. At the beginning of each timestamp you give a short 30 second or 1 minute summary and then the following minutes after that can be going into depth of what you just said. Then on to the next subject/time stamp. What do you think? Honestly I kind of wish all channels would do this. I've seen a few not related channels that do and the viewers, including myself, appreciate it.
@@richardhobbs7107 Yeah, not having pass through on AC is inconvenient but depending on your use, it's not the worse thing especially if you got a good price.
I just bought one on Amazon with a $100 coupon earlier today, before seeing your review. Been waiting weeks for this product release. Plan to use it for camping. Love the 2500 cycle count from LiFePO4, dual 100W PD ports and the 700W inverter is enough to heat my travel kettle for morning coffee (most important) and more than adequate to run my portable pellet grill.
If it's one of the more expensive items, I like the longer, more detailed format that has max information to help make the most informed buying decision. Short format is for the important, busy guys.
I don't agree..I think that we really only need the facts and anything that differs from the previous devices aka surprises. These things have become entirely iterative. In this case the only thing that was a surprise was that it had trouble with the solar degenerator. I honestly can't think of anything more useful we could have gotten out of this.
i think the same longer videos. like i have seen on another youtube video of this model if you send too much voltage it will fry the charge controller instead of an error code or just stop charging. this is some thing i have seen you do in longer videos.
I'll give it a shot and get back to you in a month or two. I bought it tonight for the $499. I'll use a new Renogy 200w panel with it. Thx for the review. I've been waiting for my first purchase of a "sol gen". So this is it.
Thank you very much I have been waiting for your comments on this particular unit. It would be a back up to our 1500 W unit but this one my wife could carry up steps. Thank you again
Checked out the Bluetti EB70 page on Amazon and noticed that the *Sapphire* blue EB70 was $20 more than the red one. Wondered "what's up with that"? I then realized that the blue one is an EB70S, which is an *800 watt* 716 wh model, not 700 watts! It arrives next week... 👍
Great review as always. I'm surprised you merely glazed over the fact that the display screen only shows the 5 bar indicator for the level of charge, I would expect you to list in your features that you don't like that it does not show you the actual percentage of battery left, leaving one guessing how much power they have left. If it weren't for this small, but important detail, I would be sold on this unit. Not only do I not want to be surprised when I run out of power (there is a big difference between 1%-20%), but I also want to be able to monitor how much juice my appliances are using in real time, or how quickly it is charging up in real time. Bluetti is such a great product and it would be so easy for them to add that to the display.
thanks for such review ! not many reviewers connect any testers to the devices, but such values from testing devices are more valuable than bunch of words !
Shorter format is OK but feels rushed for my personal taste. I have enough time in my days (as well as the attention span) for the longer format, tbh. You're really getting to like that lazy susan product display spinner a bit too much! 😁 Thanks for your work.
No likeie shorter format ! Me like Iikeie likeie long versions ! I look forward to spending more time with you. I need more HOBOTECH time. What time is it kids ? It’s HOBOTECH TIME !
Yaay. RU-vid is recommending me your videos on my home page now too!!!! Happy days and it was the very first video. Why couldn't youtube just do this for the past 3 months lmao Thank you for releasing this video! I got a bluetti eb240 cause of your videos very happy with my purchase
I just purchased second one, ac200p, 8 BVRouges 4 renogy 100's UL 10 gauge 100' three sets. 2/3 acre lot full sun. He and Will got me to go quality, portable. Sce bill was $2.97. If asylum granted to AZ or Ut the power goes too. Eb240 online all but one day for clouds this year. Even some it charges. Run all appliances of them save the 220vac heat/ac. Note: if you have two the cig lighter runs output 109 w to feed ac200p more efficiently than brick does. With array might run inside portable ac unit off the three plus house. Use 220 ac only at night using sce tripped offline to cut loads. Fyi. Thanks. Eb 240 top notch
Short Format? Being a long while watcher, I had the context of your long form tests to relate to, so yes, I liked it. I probably wouldnt though if I were new to your channel. Your video wrap up is cool. Liked the ending tune.
I bought the updated EB70S. The display times out too quick and has no dedicated display on button. Would have been nice if they changed that when upgrading the EB70. BTW, I like the short version. I also liked both versions of the Delta Pro.
That video was great! It pushed out the information needed, and the time frame was great. Unless you have a lot more information that needs more time, I think that works nicely. Keep up the great work, I hope to meet you in person some day.
Why do you need a 12 volt regulated outlet if the battery has LiFePO4 chemistry? Is it not always at about 13 volts? And the LiFePO4 is my favorite feature.
I prefer the longer video format. There are quite a few other channels that do the shorter gloss over reviews. I come to your channel for the more in depth analysis.
It’s common in the solar industry that we design systems with a 1.2 to 1.4 DC/AC ratio. In this case the inverter just caps the power. Does this hold true for the dc/dc ratio and charge controllers? The idea is this flattens the peak portion of the production curve. I want to put a 240W model on the Bluetti and maximize the window at which it’s at full power input. BTW, I think you should be able to use two 100w modules in parallel with a Y-connector.
Prefer longer but if you mixed it up with short 25 percent of the time and long 75 percent of the time that would be okay for variety. I'm not very sophisticated with this subject matter but have bought two solar "generators" based on your videos. Love your style with the sound effects and drama as well as the info. Give Odin my best.
There's a new S version available now. It upgrades the inverter to 800w, and adds a toggleable "Eco" mode that turns off AC if below 10w for 4 hours. Turn it off and it'll stay on until you turn it off.
Can you include a test in the future weather or not it shuts off if it is under a very low load like and ICECO ref-fridge when the compressors not running. Thanks for your great videos.
Placed my order on April 30 and received it May 12th. Added a toggle switch on the 2-Prong AC Wall Power Cable so I don't have to unplug the power brick every time. With a 200 Watt panel, it works nicely for sustained power needs in my media closet. Overnight it didn't go lower than one power bar. Set it and forget it.
Appreciate all the reviews brother, definitely helped me in making my final decision! If it wasn’t for you I feel like I’d be suckered into Goal Zero 🙈... not saying they’re bad but I can beat this for the price and that sexy iron phosphate battery LOL
Bought it with your code. Like the longer videos. Have a smaller jackery but wanted something larger to power my ARB fridge in my jeep & this should do the trick. Thanks
I have 2 eb55 and a eb 70 on order, also have a few small ones the eb 30"s also have on grid and off grid systems and over 59 100 watt solar panels. I live in the Philippines, electricity seems to be like a luxury.
FYI - I use a Dell 130 or 240Watt charger to charge my EB70 and it does so just fine, silently. The 240 charges it at 200 Watts. No idea if this an approved method but it works great. and is much smaller and probably cheaper to buy. (Mine is for my Alienware laptop.)
it's here - it's here!!!!! I'm not sure if it was you who called the short time before light on the display goes off a 'fail'. Just tap the light button once and voila display/input/battery bar etc lights up.
I have the small Beaudens power station. lithium iron phosphate. I love it. I use it for my phones and chromebook and lights. I charge it in 3-4 hours at McDonald's every 6 or 7th day. But now i finally got a solar panel to charge it. Also just got a new jackery 300. Barely use it. Waiting for my max air fan. I'll use it for that.
How does that work. Are you being sneaky or is the manager cool about it? I know some places like McCallisters are good about having refillable drinks and power at each table but I don't recall McDonalds having any customer facing outlets.
@@childofgod884 $90, $95 & $115, all purchased in 2019. I noticed they did go way up (along with other power stations) in 2020. Maybe some of that had to do with Covid, but i also thought the price was going to go down because EVERYONE is making them nowadays, lol.
@@SetitesTechAdventures i don't ask and they don't tell. The way it should be. The sockets are there for customers. I buy food and sit for 3 hours usually. And i usually buy something twice while im there so im not hogging the only socket. I even carry an extension cord so others can use the socket while im on it.
Energy density. A quick search shows that Li-Ion has a specific energy of 150 to 200 watt hours per kilogram. LiFePo4 has a specific energy of 90 to 120 watt hours per kilogram. Of course that higher power is part of why it has less cycles and is more likely to go boom so it has disadvantages. These devices could be a lot smaller but they'd be less robust/safe.
The two cons pointed out in this review are spot on. The fan noise on the charger is annoying but I can live with it. It sounds like an electric space heater. The indicator LEDs being hard to see, on the other hand, is a problem! On a camping trip it’s not much of an issue, but at home I use it as battery backup for internet and maybe a light. Well twice now I forgot the DC channel on and after some time period (weeks) it drained itself. Very disappointing. I have Eco mode on but that only disables the AC inverter.
My EB55 has electrical smell. Have to refund. Room is too toxic. Seems to be working normally, but unit fan is on blowing cold air and won't shut down until everything off. No one really tells us about smells. I would have not bought this.
Can you plz give ur honest opinion...b4 i go order which would u say is better??? This or the Jackery 500??? I basically have a Maxxair fan, sm chest fridge and phone another small usb fan n maybe my laptop here n there. I already have a Jackery 500 but the fridge drains it so fast so i feel i need more 🤷 i know NoThInG about this stuff!! Thank you!!!!
WooooooW that surprised me....thought u were a fan of Jackerys!!! I got my 500w cuz of u actually lol. Def made my decision very simple now so thank u SO much 4 that!!!!
@@melindamarie6139 I like the new Jackery products but they are still selling 2-3 year old models like the 240 and 500 when they should have been replaced in 2020. They are simply slow to innovate and look like they are standing still vs Bluetti. I give it 2 years before Bluetti leads the market. Assuming we survive as a species.
I'm surprised how many prefer the longer videos. I been told forever that >15 mins and no one will watch. Maybe that has to do with attracting new viewers and not current subscribers.
@@HOBOTECH Many of us want to know more about the technical stuff...wattage consumption, voltage drop, current draw...really put it to the test to see if it'll hold up under the worst case scenarios. Keep up the good work. Really enjoying your videos!
@@HOBOTECH For me, longer videos mean I don't have to keep going to my phone to pick another videos to put on while at work. Because of the PPE equipment, it can take me up to two minutes to pick up my phone. Also with longer videos, you feel like the content creators is ensuring the content is informative. I've seen so many reviewers of smartphones not cover everything because they strived for short videos. I had to stop watching a lot of Tech content creators because they cut out too much information just to have a short video. (I shouldn't have to watch five videos on one phone to learn all the details) I understand why people don't want their time wasted, but I believe you do a great job overall. I don't recall you wasting our time at all.
