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BMW 530i: What is the real cost of going electric? 

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MotoMan drives a third G60 generation of ‪@BMW‬ 5 series . . . And the first one with an internal combustion engine: The 2024 ‪@BMWUSA‬ 530i. Yes, the most basic G60 BMW 5 Series on offer in the North America, but from behind the wheel of one of the only cars on the planet that can be had as ICE or EV with minimal differences, he learns of the true cost of going electric.
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@M1911jln
@M1911jln 20 дней назад
As someone who learned to drive in 1976, when the very first Porsche Turbo was released, I'm still surprised that people think 0-60 in 5.9 seconds is unexciting. I've never owned a car that fast. Back in the day, that was supercar territory. A midsized sedan that does 0-60 in 5.9 seconds while getting an overall fuel economy approaching 30 mpg is pretty amazing.
@user-vx7vi3vq1c
@user-vx7vi3vq1c 20 дней назад
Everything is fast these days. 5.9 seconds is only 7/10ths of a second faster than my Toyota Land Cruiser…and that feels like a slug. We’ve lost perspective.
@M1911jln
@M1911jln 19 дней назад
@@user-vx7vi3vq1cI also had a 200 Series Land Cruiser. I’ve replaced it with a newer LX 570. It is faster than my 1978 Trans Am (4-speed manual, 6.6l “high output” V8) while getting better fuel economy. I don’t think my 200s feel like a slug, but I guess I’m just an old man…
@donwilber1628
@donwilber1628 19 дней назад
Yup, my '85 Vette was rated at 6 seconds to 60...not slow by any means. Does it compare to my M550i (3.6sec)...hell no, nor should it, but it's not slow.
@jamesscott933
@jamesscott933 19 дней назад
0-60 in 5.9 seconds is barely mid-range. Just engage in a few friendly stop light races and you'll find out rather quickly its not that impressive these days
@donwilber1628
@donwilber1628 19 дней назад
@@jamesscott933 Nobody is buying 530s to do stoplight sprint races.
@jilbertm1084
@jilbertm1084 19 дней назад
This is probably one of the most informative car videos online. Most others just talk about features and highlights and leave it at that. Thank you.
@gasstation405
@gasstation405 20 дней назад
Really big mistake on BMW's part to not offer the 540i as a press vehicle in any review of the new model to date. They're trying so hard to push the i5 when that won't even make up half the sales of the 540i.
@scottconrad4719
@scottconrad4719 19 дней назад
The 540 was and would not be a big seller. They decide on expected volume not what you want. That’s how things work now. This is obvious in how they handle the x5. They sell more 530s than 540s.
@pan4632
@pan4632 18 дней назад
wow, you're not kidding. I can't find a SINGLE review of the latest 540i....How bizarre
@daronkendrick
@daronkendrick 2 дня назад
@@pan4632they released the 540i a lot later which probably resulted in a lot of people not reviewing it because it’s relatively the same car just different engine, and would be a repetitive video.
@mikemaslanka3786
@mikemaslanka3786 19 дней назад
George, the reason why I am a fan is because you are more than just a car reviewer. You go deep with your analysis and opinion that’s makes us think about things we normally wouldn’t. 2.5 years ago you were questioning whether the industry was moving too fast toward electrification. I remember when you opined that Toyota was correct about going more towards hybrids rather than EV’s like GM, Mercedes and the others were doing. Consumers are proving you right. I remember when you said that the real value in Tesla aren’t the vehicles but the charging network instead. You are a true sage of the automotive industry! You speak the truth.
@itslorenzo
@itslorenzo 19 дней назад
👏🏽 💯 Well said, and I fully agree with you!
@mondvogel6124
@mondvogel6124 19 дней назад
In the end, Toyota is just way behind now and will suffer from it. Yes, EVs are not growing right now, but that's just part of the current macroeconomic conditions. This will change again a couple of years down the road, and then Toyota will still be in one of the worst positions they have been in ever.
@zoner__
@zoner__ 18 дней назад
@@mondvogel6124 They appear to be in the lead on solid state batteries. If that is true, they will surge way past everyone else.
@mondvogel6124
@mondvogel6124 18 дней назад
@@zoner__ lets see. We have seen news about solid state battery breakthroughs for many many years now.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
WOW, Mike . . . thank you for the amazing feedback. Means a lot to me! Appreciate having you on this journey!
@nigelsturge6707
@nigelsturge6707 19 дней назад
Finally a car reviewer with common sense.
@donwilber1628
@donwilber1628 19 дней назад
My M550 was being serviced recently and they gave me a new 530 loaner. It was very comfortable, and plenty fast for 95% of the population. 60 in 5.9 seconds isn't slow by any means unless you're racing. The EV versions just don't have the range I'm willing to accept yet. And the infrastructure needs to improve.
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 19 дней назад
I own an x5 M50i. How is your n63 engine and the transmission? I read that some had issues with transfer case and differential. RU-vid mechanic recommended to change the oils more often than BMW recommends.
@donwilber1628
@donwilber1628 19 дней назад
@@EastWood2004 I’ve had no troubles, but mine is a ‘22 with only 20k miles on it.
@davidrpriest
@davidrpriest 19 дней назад
I think the M550 is a classic and would take it over any of the new generation.
@katman042
@katman042 17 дней назад
I’m in the exact same position. I have a 2018 M550 and drove a 530 loaner when I brought my car in. I love the M550 and am looking to trade it in. I’m not interested in electric at this point in time. They simply don’t have the range I need and there are few working fast chargers around. I’m thinking of the 540, but I’m not sure. The dealer is pushing the 550e. I’m spoiled with the twin turbo V8 and don’t know what to do.
@davidrpriest
@davidrpriest 17 дней назад
@@katman042 You'll never hear a BMW factory exhaust sounds as good as a M550i.
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 19 дней назад
Funny how 5.9 & 135mph in a 4 door uber cruiser is now considered "meh"....
@timothyburnside3229
@timothyburnside3229 19 дней назад
Great point! The reason the rebellion happened was the All-electric crowd pushed a choice that many could not use and excluded different needs and options from discussion! For example, why no diesel hybrid vehicles, my sons GMC 3.0 Duramax got 27 MPG in Town and 40 on Highway! Thanks for offering the ability to at least think about other solutions to many needs in transportation!
@chriscoffman8340
@chriscoffman8340 19 дней назад
I bought my 2018 540i because of the performance while still maintaining good MPg . When I buy a replacement in a few years, I will buy another ICE 540i. If I wanted Toyota Camry performance, I would buy a Camry and save $30k.
@masteryayi
@masteryayi 19 дней назад
So, basically, what you’re saying is, Toyota was right all along to resist going all electric on everything?!
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Pretty much.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 4 дня назад
Validation: ru-vid.comEK1Y9MRp1yw?si=bsDekGayAbIQEdm8
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 19 дней назад
"We have reached parity" price per kWh @ 60 cents at a DC fast charger, an i5 (eDrive40) in Connecticut would be 42% more expensive than the gas powered 530i version. Charging an i5 at home would be 39% cheaper than the 530i 530i = combined 31 MPG (2 gallons per 62 miles or 100 km). i5 = 18.6 kWh per 62 miles or 100 km Refueling in Connecticut: Premium is $4.09. x 2 = $8.18 Electricity at a DCFC is .60 x 18.6 = $11.60 Home L2 is .2676 x 18.6 = $4.98
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
How does free Electrify America factor in? What if you live in a place that has free charging?
@krzzzy19
@krzzzy19 10 дней назад
​@@jhr3uva90nothing is free. You're paying for it by your rent
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 4 дня назад
Of course charging at home is the fundamental element that makes EVs economically viable. The problem is when your lifestyle extends beyond the range of a daily commute. Welcome to the Canadian prairie provinces. George is absolutely correct when he says "One size does not fit all."
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 4 дня назад
@@dash-ryan Exactly. If you cannot charge at home an EV isn't the logical choice. If you can charge at home and your daily commute is less than the i5's 400km range it is a no brainer: 400km would cost $51.53 at 1.70 per liter for premium fuel for the 530i 400km would cost $11.71 at 16 cents per kWh in Saskatchewan. Data from Saskpower, residential rate. 46 working weeks per year an EV would be ahead by $9,158.60 per year or $199 per week.
@TaterActual
@TaterActual 20 дней назад
I’ve rented a few and will not be doing it again any time soon. The charging and driving experience was 💩.
@user-vx7vi3vq1c
@user-vx7vi3vq1c 20 дней назад
Charging is still a mess unless you charge at home. Driving miles to an out of the way charger is ridiculous. My ICE car refuels in 3 minutes at practically every street corner.
@loseerich493
@loseerich493 16 дней назад
@@user-vx7vi3vq1c Imagine having to drive miles out of your way to charge & then imagine doing that when the man decides to tax everyone at a rate-per-mile? Not to mention how many miles you drive factors into your annual car insurance premium.
@user-vx7vi3vq1c
@user-vx7vi3vq1c 16 дней назад
@@loseerich493 It’s true. BTW, I also own a Cadillac Lyric EV which is spectacular, and we charge at home. I would never take it on a long trip.
@JJL206
@JJL206 19 дней назад
We've always had a choice of ICE, Hybrid, and/or EV vehicles. No one has been forced into anything. At some point we'll run out of one unsustainable fuel source and have to rely on more sustainable options. When and what you pick is up to you the consumer. It's nice to have choices.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
This is a good point! I am a great fan of MotoMan and have been watching his videos often for several years. I must question his assertions in this video. Like you said, no one is forced to get an EV. There are no national or federal mandates in the USA and I strongly doubt if there will be anytime soon. So I don't understand this "overcorrection" argument. Even California, the strictest state, won't mandate BEVs and PHEVs in NEW cars until 2035. Considering that most cars bought in the USA are used cars, it might be 2045 before BEVs and PHEVs are prevalent in the USA.
@craig8638
@craig8638 18 дней назад
I am not sure why all the RU-vidrs are going down the EVs are being forced on us rabbit hole. One thing is for sure, dirty air causes thousands of people to have lung diseases and 80 million Americans breathe toxic air. Maybe they would like ICE alternatives more if they were one.
@loseerich493
@loseerich493 16 дней назад
A ton of people don't keep it simple, as in simple math. Over the last 30 years of buying cars & trucks I've had to often times logically pass on the diesel, hybrid, &/or electric vehicle options with a particular platform because of the math not adding up. Up front cost, miles driven per year, price of fuel vehicle takes, how long I expect to keep the vehicle etc.
@guitjammin4710
@guitjammin4710 19 дней назад
I’m in the market for a new BMW 4 series. Don’t want to go full electric because living in a downtown condo with 250 apartments and only 10 charging stations, they’re always reserved. Hybrids seem like the logical choice, even mild hybrids like the 430/440. Only 10 minutes to fill up the tank vs many hours to get a full charge on an EV.
@wojciechmuras553
@wojciechmuras553 17 дней назад
You could always go for a plug-in hybrid. If you can't snatch a free cable, no harm done - you'll just be driving around like a regular hybrid. But if you happen to get a spot by the charger, you can drive electric. Best of both worlds.
@herbertwong6007
@herbertwong6007 19 дней назад
its a blaspheme for a 5er equipped with a 4 cylinder
@DBrealmadrid9606
@DBrealmadrid9606 12 дней назад
You should see what they sell in Turkey. A 518i with a 3 cylinder engine.
@MK-tk8tb
@MK-tk8tb 19 дней назад
Important message but the reality is most well meaning people do not have the ability think beyond 1 or 2 sound bites.
@crimeplayhouse785
@crimeplayhouse785 4 дня назад
Great insight. Thanks for your sensible discussion of the political/cultural aspects of automotive technology.
@Evan_Land
@Evan_Land 17 дней назад
Car Review + short lesson on how to look at the world that is multicausal. Nice!
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Greatly appreciate you noticing!
@jeffs6090
@jeffs6090 19 дней назад
0:40 Right out the gate, that's an incorrect statement. Volvo (I would say is a major manufacturer) had their XC40 platform that, from it's inception, was designed for both ICE and EV. Then, BMW before this 5 had the 4 series designed for both. Stellantis also has one.
@enniol8043
@enniol8043 15 дней назад
I believe is was Akio Toyoda who said that hybrid was the way to go and he was mocked, yet he is showing to be correct. We cannot use countries like Norway as models because they have a small population, a small geography and a sovereign fund to help them build the infrastructure which, ironically, is from oil. If EVs are sold on their positive environmental impact then the source of electricity must be clean or else it cancels out the tailpipe emissions. The mining of the battery materials is also an issue. However there are growing pains and we have to be able to deal with them. If those two items are addressed then we have the range anxiety and issue which is a function of not enough charging stations and the amount of time that it takes to charge. An EV society that just charges at home is impossible. I live in a city where many people don't have a driveway, where do they charge? Or so many live in Condos, the current grid system cannot handle that. So I don't know the answers, but I can tell you that I would be happy with a hybrid not happy with an EV at this time, at least not as the primary vehicle. I drive the largest car in the house and I would drive a BMW iX but then the largest car is also the one that has to take the longest trips to schools, and I don't want to turn a 4 hour drive into a 6 to 8 hour drive either.
@agont135
@agont135 19 дней назад
He's a man with insight, thinking beyond, undivisive approach to policies. Good mind.
@chrisstavro4698
@chrisstavro4698 20 дней назад
What defies logic is a 5200 lb vehicle lugging around a single person and calling that "efficient". Someone put a diesel generator on the back of a Tesla and drove 3500 miles on 76.2 gal of diesel. Plug in hybrids are the way to go for max efficiency, and you can make mild hybrids with 50% better mpg with just a 30 lb battery.
@philippepeltier142
@philippepeltier142 20 дней назад
Globalists don't care about reality... 😉
@wizzyno1566
@wizzyno1566 19 дней назад
Re: 3500iles on 10 gallons of fuel. No they didn't, that only happened in your head.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
Are you taking account CO2 emissions?
@user-io4sr7vg1v
@user-io4sr7vg1v 18 дней назад
@@jhr3uva90 doesn't matter. CO2 is fine.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 17 дней назад
@@user-io4sr7vg1v What do you mean?
@sg618342
@sg618342 20 дней назад
One of the main things that many people mention is how heavy EV's are compared to their gas counterparts. Tesla's are not significantly heavier than the same type of vehicle made by BMW, Ford, GM, or Mercedes. Also in just another few years, the cost of batteries will continue to decline and their performance will increase. With that, we should be able to lower the weight of the batteries in EV's, while decreasing the amount of time to charge. As many of you mentioned, Tesla is the only brand with a decent charging network. The governments need to contribute more funds to building out the charging networks.
@waltertomashefsky2682
@waltertomashefsky2682 20 дней назад
I have to wonder… what percentage of cars today are 2L I-4 powered. Both turbo or non turbo. And how many cars 40 years ago were 2L I-4. We’ve lost V8s, V6s, straight 6s, 2.8L sixes, 3L sixes. I’m not bitching here although perhaps I should since I’ve only owned two 4-cylinder cars in those 40 years and all the rest were sixes.
@JJL206
@JJL206 19 дней назад
Which matters more: number of cylinders or performance?
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 19 дней назад
@@JJL206reliability and power band functionality are cool
@garyclark6747
@garyclark6747 19 дней назад
BMW was smart in having one unified platform regardless of propulsion choice which they wisely leave up to the customer. The $0.60/kWh CT public cost is more than the $0.17/kWh in TN, $0.40 in OH & MI, $0.56 in PA and $0.48 in VA & NC public cost I’ve paid. Even if I paid the highest rate you found it would only be for 20% of all electricity I’ve put in. The 80% is from my home tap at a non-middle man mark up retail of $0.16/kWh. That’s a whopping 3.75 times less than the rate you quoted for vast majority of what I consume. You should have charged at the Porsche dealership 3 miles away but hey I won’t ask about your oil change cost if you don’t ask me about mine. CT home electric rates are at an eye watering $0.30/kWh so in fairness to that provider a 50% mark up isn’t terrible. Good content as usual. 12:15
@markbogosian9436
@markbogosian9436 19 дней назад
All of these transportation issues come down to one simple formula. F = MA. Mass Matters.
@manoloorz
@manoloorz 19 дней назад
it's been said time and time again, electric cars shine as compact or sub compact city cars for people with a garage and the means to own at least two different cars, for the rest of environments, use cases and situations either hybrid or pure internal combustion wehter is gasoline or diesel is just better. (i might not be adding anything new or interesting to the conversation but at least i'm feeding the all mighty algorithm )
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 19 дней назад
Greatly appreciate you understanding and feeding the algorithm . . .
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 19 дней назад
Or if we designed our larger cities with mass transit, walkability, and biking in mind we wouldn’t need electric vehicles!
@drnick40
@drnick40 19 дней назад
Motorman, you are a person who speaks my language. I immensely appreciate your thoughts and comments because they are based on common sense. Thank you!
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Absolutely my pleasure!
@derbagger22
@derbagger22 20 дней назад
Big LOL to the EV rush
@faisalfaiz4568
@faisalfaiz4568 19 дней назад
Very well put together episode…
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
I think MotoMan is a good guy.,
@bassandtrebleclef
@bassandtrebleclef 19 дней назад
I'd rather have the jaguar xf. MUCH better interior, better exterior, similar handling. Save thousands.
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 18 дней назад
Same here.
@eddstarr2185
@eddstarr2185 19 дней назад
Cars have been a mechanical conveyance that's affordable, repairable and insurable. Going electric can transforms the cars into computerized/electronic platforms that become unaffordable in some circumstances. That's why in 2016, BMW created "ReachNow" - a corporate sponsored carsharing service that allows customers to experience BMW i3 electric cars while "sharing" the cost of operation. ReachNow offered BMW i3 subscriptions by the hour, daily, weekly, monthly or annually. BMW cancelled ReachNow in 2019 - due to the spiraling cost of operation.
@TheCarGuru
@TheCarGuru 17 дней назад
I would love a diesel hybrid anything in the US.
@rambl30n
@rambl30n 19 дней назад
Great video. So this one seems to have electric turbo spooling, given how fast off the line it goes. How about electric oil circulation for the turbo that kicks in during start-stop? Is that addressed by BMW as well?
@pjw7007
@pjw7007 17 дней назад
Thank-you for a realistic view. Personally, I own a Taycan because I was blown away by the combination of performance, smoothness, and technology. Truly an overpriced indulgence. The entire "electric" thing only entered my equation as it delivered the attributes I want in a car better than any ICE vehicle. Meanwhile, the politicians were kind enough to give me $7,500 in 2021 to help finance my indulgence. Thanks! Skip to late 2024 and we have a few EV's priced competitively with ICE vehicles, but I am forever confused as to why someone would pay $47,000 for a base Tesla Model Y rather than $30,000 for a base Mazda CX-5. The $7,500 tax credit on the Tesla is now just an excuse to keep the list price higher than it would be in the absence of the freebie. I say, bag the political incentives (bribes) and let the market decide.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Completely agree on that last point!
@kristy77a
@kristy77a 17 дней назад
Over correcting is part of the process. I don’t think we should try to avoid that, per se. That just hinders human industriousness and curiosity. And remember, we’re not just dealing with the science of less mass and performance. We’re also dealing with the science of a warming planet.
@ronnymb67
@ronnymb67 18 дней назад
Sure it's 1200 lb lighter than the full electric four-wheel drive, but it's still a $60G+ 2 ton, 4 cylinder luxury sedan that will get outrun by a Sonata N Line. I know people are going to get triggered by that comment but I'm being facetious. How about ditching the hybrid system and maybe another 300-400lbs. Then it might be reminiscent of what the 5 Series used to be...
@davecarlson6275
@davecarlson6275 19 дней назад
I find it crazy that these huge cars are becoming electric. Battery powered cars are great for around town, not for luxury vehicles.
@kresimirmilisa5560
@kresimirmilisa5560 16 дней назад
Very good limousine😊
@robb5516
@robb5516 19 дней назад
Great vid. I told everyone I know long ago that all electric is not the answer for many reasons, not the least of which is our grid can’t support it. Range, cost, inconvenience, lack of noise are all negative attributes. The answer is plug in hybrid. Done.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
Unfortunately, I haven't seen evidence that the grid cannot support electric cars. That statement assumes that people use electric cars the same way they do ICE cars. In other words, if all EV drivers charge exclusively on DC fast charging at certain hours similar to how ICE drivers generally pump gas, then perhaps it will cause problems with the grid. It does not take into account people who charge at home, work, the gym, etc. on Level 2 chargers. And it really doesn't take into account those who charge at off-peak times.
@robb5516
@robb5516 18 дней назад
@@jhr3uva90 you response was incomprehensible. Try again in congregated sentences. The grid collapsed twice in the last 2 years in Texas just because it got cold. Try again.
@EastWood2004
@EastWood2004 19 дней назад
The 520i is dirt cheap in Korea but it is ridiculously expensive in Australia
@1225KPH
@1225KPH 19 дней назад
If you spend any time charging an electric car, you've proven your time is worthless. If your time is worthless, you're worthless. And, the older you get, the less time you have here on Earth. Therefore the time you waste represents a greater percentage of your remaining life.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
If you just sit in the car while it is charging, you've proven to have poor time management skills. I jogged 5K yesterday while using Level 2 charging. I went to the store and bought groceries while using a DC fast charger last week.
@1225KPH
@1225KPH 18 дней назад
@@jhr3uva90 I'm driving 400 miles from Cody to Cheyenne on a business trip and you want me to buy GROCERIES in Soshoni, Wyoming? I should jog in Soshoni???? Should I change in my car or in the gas station restroom? It doesn't matter because there's no place to charge in Shoshoni and even if there was, I'd arrive at the Capitol to meet Governor Gordon in a dried sweat or with warm milk and melted ice cream in the trunk of my car. Wait! There's an RV park outside Shoshoni listed in an EV charging directory! I just got off the phone with the owner who told me she doesn't have a dedicated EV charger but a couple of people have stolen electricity from one of her RV hookups. Unlike you, I'm not a pig. I SHOWER after exercising. I don't get into my car in a sweat. My car is immaculate. I wonder about your personal hygiene. I've made several trips to Cheyenne for two or three hour meetings and driven back without spending the night. That saves $250 for a hotel room. 800 miles plus a meeting is doable but only if I don't waste any time charging an EV. And if I do choose stay overnight, I choose any motel or hotel, not just those with slow and broken and already in use chargers. With my Mustang, I come and go as I please. I can leave for a short or long trip at the drop of a hat, on a full or all almost empty tank. I can drive anywhere, anytime and find an open gasoline station anywhere I go. My car doesn't plan my trips around its needs. Your comment proves you're willing to let your stupid, not ready for prime time. EV control your life. Congratulations, Mr. Slave!
@jareknowak8712
@jareknowak8712 18 дней назад
Just charge at home in the night.
@The_Stanman
@The_Stanman 19 дней назад
Electricity is significantly cheaper than gas, but you need to charge at home to realize savings (which 90% of EV owners do). However, jt does mean EVs are less attractive for those who can't charge at home. For them, cost savings will only be maintenance (and eventually vehicle price as EVs become cheaper than ICE)
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
First statement cannot be said of all regions of the country and the world.
@krzzzy19
@krzzzy19 10 дней назад
bro it's 26c kwh here
@geraint8989
@geraint8989 19 дней назад
BMW have become masters of designing something that is at once bland and severely ugly. It’s a bloated caricature of a BMW.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
Yet their sales increase every year.
@Aizman87
@Aizman87 18 дней назад
combustion is allways the way to go =D
@RandSny
@RandSny 19 дней назад
One thing everyone seems to overlook is that the current power grid cannot support that many pure EV cars, it was not designed to carry that much current. All new infrastructure would need to be put in place. It is not as simple as putting up new power stations, you will need to rewire the country to support the power demands. That is why Pete Buddig (Secretary of Transportation) has spent 3 billion dollars and only put up 9 charging stations. Imagine if all my neighbors purchased EV cars, the power company would need to put in heavier wires to each home, larger transformers in the area and more cabling from the power plant to the transformer. The county is not ready for pure EV's. nice idea just doesn't work, and EV sales are declining rapidly.
@rjbiker66
@rjbiker66 19 дней назад
On another channel the reviewer was getting 60mpg out of the base spec 2025 Camry. $30K for a car the size of a 530i that gets 60mpg.
@AntLive29
@AntLive29 19 дней назад
great video
@bnascimento94
@bnascimento94 19 дней назад
The difference in weight between the ICE vs the EV is just surreal. Overall do you prefer this 5 series generation or the new E-class generation, both with the 4 cylinder engine? PS: Lovely IWC 💚
@mikemaslanka3786
@mikemaslanka3786 19 дней назад
P.S. I have been meaning to ask you if you think you will ever get to do a review and/or deep dive into the Cadillac Celestiq? It’s such a bold move for Caddy/GM and I would love to get your take on it.
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Would love to but currently not featuring any GM cars on the show.
@getitdone775
@getitdone775 16 дней назад
Why not?
@buddy1155
@buddy1155 19 дней назад
Cars are like watches, EVs are like quartz watches, they outperform every mechanical watch but they have no soul. EVs should be for commuting, ICE for enjoyment in the weekend.
@zoner__
@zoner__ 18 дней назад
So...would you trade a 991.1 for the new GTS?
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 17 дней назад
Probably not . . . I would hold onto any NA 911.
@NeedSpeedRC
@NeedSpeedRC 17 дней назад
Like it or not, EV’s is a disruptive technology for the auto world. Maybe electricity is not the answer but it’s lays the grass roots for innovators to start the development for new technologies. You can’t progress without solving a problems.
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 19 дней назад
They should have just made the inline 6 super reliable. Wouldn’t that have been a more impressive achievement?
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
The B58 IS super reliable.
@bonusb2924
@bonusb2924 18 дней назад
@@jhr3uva90 - yes indeed. I should have added, and only a super reliable inline 6
@barryw9473
@barryw9473 2 дня назад
Hyundai Kona and Nero also are designed as hybrid, PHEV or BEV. So is Volvo XC40. BMW is not unique.
@e4y34zdfg
@e4y34zdfg 19 дней назад
WHY is there no 530i in Europe? Only a 520i and the rest of the lineup is electric/hybrid...
@glenf4115
@glenf4115 19 дней назад
And in North America there is no iX1, iX2, or iX3. Basically preserving the profit of the service department by protecting the sales of their best selling (and most serviced) models.
@QuietStormX
@QuietStormX 19 дней назад
ICE or EV? :-D
@agont135
@agont135 19 дней назад
Wonder what the African continent, the middle east, south america and most of vast Russia on the switch to EV? 😂😂😂😂
@enefiokusoro3427
@enefiokusoro3427 20 дней назад
Genesis?
@paulhackett2761
@paulhackett2761 20 дней назад
There are clearly a number of positive use cases for non-ICE vehicles - local delivery and utility co. vehicles; buses and other public transport travelling prescribed routes, for example. However, to declare the validity of ICE technological redundant is not only chronically wasteful, it denies future generations the economic and social benefits of a proven and continuously improving resource. Moreover, there are parts of the globe where, even in decades to come, the likehood of finding a conveniently placed electric charging point (or access to a version of over the air charging) will remain slim. Surely, the example being set by the likes of Porsche and Toyota provides a big enough clue that the optimal solution will comprise of a matrix of power generation and energy types - inc. battery, bio, e-fuel and, yes, hybrid too. Matrices will vary according to user requirements, geographic location, physical infrastructure plus access to and environmental impact of energy source options. It feels as though political expediency is hurrying humankind to constrain rather than expand its thinking, ingenuity and innovation.
@jamesscott933
@jamesscott933 19 дней назад
Did I see you on someone else's you tube channel at the 2025 M5 reveal in Pebble Beach? Because a guy in the audience sure looked like you
@MotoManTV
@MotoManTV 19 дней назад
Why, yes, yes you did . . . That said, where did I appear:)
@jamesscott933
@jamesscott933 19 дней назад
@@MotoManTV car coach reports with Linda Fix
@jamesscott933
@jamesscott933 19 дней назад
​@@MotoManTVI'm bad. Lauren Fix
@jamesscott933
@jamesscott933 19 дней назад
I'm bad. It's Lauren Fix not Linda
@carnut5562
@carnut5562 17 дней назад
This is one of those things you buy used. Wait till it’s 20-25k. Depreciation will be your friend. Having said that, this pos is just that! Save your money. Buy an M3 manual!
@rgwebb2008
@rgwebb2008 19 дней назад
I am also a big believer that regulators needed to prioritize hybrids not EVs. Of course, hybrid would be an on-ramp to PHEV along to EV. The government is suppose to have the benefit of seeing past quarterly earnings or venture capitalists needing to turn their investments into profits. I believe the EV push from the federal government was not about emissions, it was about subsidizing domestic automakers catching up with Tesla. The whole point of the administrative state that emerged in the late 19th century/early 20th century was to help save capitalism from eating itself alive. I fear that what has happened is more likely to be on the helping capitalism eat itself alive side than using the commanding heights to guide the market towards societal sustainability while still allowing them to make money.
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
May I ask what country you are in? I'm asking because there are no national "regulators" prioritizing EVs in the USA.
@rgwebb2008
@rgwebb2008 18 дней назад
@@jhr3uva90 fair that was not the correct word. Politicians and bureaucrats.
@hankmoody7521
@hankmoody7521 19 дней назад
10:20 Going back where? Have you looked at sales in China? And even in Europe BMW is selling 50%+ 5-series cars as BEV and PHEV versions, the rest are mostly 520d diesel. What I don't get, why in the US people still argue, that there would be a 'business as usual' path past 2030 for ICE sales. Climate scientist clearly say, global societies have a co2 budget in accordance to Paris goals of sub 1.7-2°c, which is going to reach zero maybe rather around 2035-40 than 2050. Further emissions will not be beneficial for any US citizen besides oil and gas folks - costs from climate change will hit hard in the south of the US. So either societies ban ICE cars or fuel prices will hike like crazy, make it impossible for the comman man to drive an ICE car. Governments in Europe and China early saw the need for public investments in fast charging infrastructure. I think the US is 5-10 years behind on that topic.
@mavsguy842
@mavsguy842 19 дней назад
I pay ~$0.12 per kWh, and driving my PHEV on electricity costs about half what it costs to drive on ~$3/gallon gasoline. Nebraska prices.
@dash-ryan
@dash-ryan 4 дня назад
Overcorrection? You called it George: ru-vid.comEK1Y9MRp1yw?si=bsDekGayAbIQEdm8
@paulpellico3797
@paulpellico3797 19 дней назад
equally unexciting at 140 mph wair...wut!? you mean there might be somebody watching your videos that has NOT been ovwer 140!!!!!??? who has never driven under 140, i ask? this simply is a failure to build and buy. shame on BMW. my mother will NEVER buy this turd!
@briancorreia2923
@briancorreia2923 20 дней назад
Great take on the issue. Perhaps governments should try the stick rather than the carrot approach. If you tax fuels high enough, people will choose an alternative and market forces will work their magic. But you’re right, the heat of the problem is the old story it’s always been. Battery chemistry needs to improve. Somebody needs to get a new battery out of the laboratory and into commercial production. LFP and NMC just aren’t going to be good replacements for combustibles. But as bad as they are, they do work and if we as a society choose to limit or eliminate transportation emissions, we could do it with the technology we have today. With wrinkles and warts. A ridiculously heavy and expensive luxury car isn’t great but it’s not like we’re being asked to go back to the horse drawn carriage.
@jamesonpace726
@jamesonpace726 19 дней назад
Once, we cared about the Earth our kids would inherit, but really we want 5 minute refueling. Sorry, kids....
@jhr3uva90
@jhr3uva90 18 дней назад
This is America, baby! Our convenience outweighs anything elsse.
@danielwilliams1921
@danielwilliams1921 20 дней назад
Nice sneaks…
@e.walker2142
@e.walker2142 10 дней назад
As long as you include the cost of global warming into your costs of ICE vehicles then you can have a reasoned discussion. Like everything else in life there is a cost of doing something. There is also a cost of doing nothing.
@krzzzy19
@krzzzy19 10 дней назад
Nice virtue signaling bro
@user-js2dr9gv1u
@user-js2dr9gv1u 19 дней назад
TRUMP + ELON 2024!
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