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BMW E30 Rear Arch Repair Welding | How To Repair A Rusty Wheel Arch | 017
In this BMW E30 project episode, I finally bite the bullet and get to work on the rear arch rust repair.
This area of rust on my E30 is by far the ugliest looking part of the car, it's clearly visible and is basically a big rust hole.
Having had some recent success with my welding repairs in doing the rear battery box (see the previous video), I'm ready to step up to the plate and take on a more obvious area on the car and repair it. From that experience, I learned a few things about how to set the welder up, and what kind of thing can and can't be welded. I also found out just how hard it is to cut repair panels that actually fit!
As a result, I jumped straight on eBay to source an E30 rear wheel arch repair panel, and to my surprise, they aren't actually that expensive, I'll link the one I use in the video in this description.
Here's what I use in this video:
Clarke Weld MIG 150 TE Turbo: ebay.us/jbdfE8 (this is the newer version)
0.8 Welding Wire: ebay.us/eQWqWx
Argon/CO2 Welding Gas & Regulator: ebay.us/7BOngD
Angle Grinder Wire Brushes: ebay.us/sSJjtM
Dewalt Angle Grinder: ebay.us/CmsNuW
Safety Goggles: ebay.us/2Dvt5C
BMW E30 Rear Wheel Arch Panel Driver's Side: ebay.us/zVTnFt
E30 Rear Wheel Arch Panel Passenger Side: ebay.us/4DAloI
With the repair panel having quite a bit more meat on it than I really needed for my rear arch repair, I was left with a few options for how to approach it. As the majority of the wheel arch is actually in excellent condition on this side of the car, I opted to cut the panel down to just the front section.
But before I could get my teeth stuck into welding that fresh metal on, I unfortunately discovered a Pandora's box of rust within the rear rocker panel (or sill/side skirt).
Hidden behind my rusty arch there is a kind of chassis rail box section that spans between the arch and where the door shut line is, and its clearly been sat rotting away for years.
I realised I'd first have to do a rocker panel weld repair which included that inner pressed steel box section.
Luckily this box section is quite well hidden being inside the bodywork of the car, so despite the fact I knew I wasn't going to be able to make a patch that matched its strange, corrugated pressed-steel shape, I was able to weld in a patch of metal which will more than stand up to the job and be sturdy.
With this out of the way, I could then cut my rear arch patch using a method I'd seen the likes of Vtuned and Motorhead.co doing, which is to press your new panel up against the car and cut both your patch and your car's bodywork in one slick motion, leaving you with a patch which fits the hole perfectly. And luckily this trick really worked wonders for me too, I cant see how it could be done any other way without hours of back and forth.
Further to that, I also used a trick I'd seen online where you weld in supports for your patch, this not only lets you get your patch firmed up in position to weld, but it also greatly reduces your chances of blowing through the thin sheet metal with your welder, by giving it a backing to soak some of the heat into.
With this all sorted, I then dove straight into welding the panel in. On a welding job like this, with extremely thin sheet metal, your biggest enemy is the blow-through. This is way too easy to do, and if it happens you will have a very hard time trying to close that hole back up with the welder.
With my Clarke welder set on its absolute lowest setting (dial to 1, switch to Min), I carefully worked my way around the patch doing around 2-second duration tack welds. Giving it ample time between welds and passes to allow the panel to cool down, avoiding warpage.
This took a very long time, but after 2 sessions there were no more gaps in the weld. At which point I got the angle grinder with the flap disc on and ground all of the spot welds down to a smooth finish, then admired my handy work.
The result is great, and while not perfect, remarkable for my first attempt at anything like this. Coming up next will be the rest of the jacking point repair, and also welding in the inner arch.
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@MrLaydownsally
@MrLaydownsally 15 дней назад
I've got to do this on my E30 , never done it before so will watch all of the vids
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 15 дней назад
Good luck, its doable if you're patient. Have a watch though my E30 welding related vids, I was starting to get the hang of it by the end. 😆 I think I share my settings each time too, that will give you a great head start.
@MrLaydownsally
@MrLaydownsally 15 дней назад
@@SPANNERRASH thanks , I will be watching them , lots of times 😁
@MrLaydownsally
@MrLaydownsally 15 дней назад
@@SPANNERRASH fancy doing mine?...😁
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 14 дней назад
@@MrLaydownsally Haha I'm not sure I am planning to do it again to be honest... 🤣
@MrLaydownsally
@MrLaydownsally 14 дней назад
@@SPANNERRASH I had to ask 😊
@100SteveB
@100SteveB 2 года назад
A great job done there, nice and strong and looking good. Nice to see you taking it slow when welding in the patch panel, I learned the hard way not to rush that part. I done the offside rear arch on my Mondeo a couple of years back, but by rushing I distorted the metal so much I had to cut it out start again. I will indeed watch your video where you tackle the inner arch. I approached mine in a slightly different way, I fabricated the bits I needed and welded them in before final fitting of the outer arch. I did it that way because the rear hub and suspension was still on the car, so welding from inside of the arch would have been a nightmare. This year I have the nearside to do, oh joy! But anyway, great job, and very well explained.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Cheers Steve, I'm still really chuffed with how that came out. :) And yeah it takes a long old time when you're waiting for things to cool between welds, but having to start over takes even longer! Thats a good idea doing the inner arch first, then you can butt the new outer up to it for a perfect fit. Not a bad thought at all, maybe I should have tried it that way around myself.
@martinmaxwell2004
@martinmaxwell2004 4 месяца назад
Top tip -- if you are welding gasless , remove the torch shroud for better visibility. Be doing my own soon and not looking forward to it-- even though ive done it countless times before, -- it always seems more daunting when its your own car lol.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
Cheers Martin, yeah it's always tough getting a proper visual on what you're welding with the mask on. Good luck on the job!
@imranazhar2945
@imranazhar2945 2 года назад
Lovely work mate. Happy to listen to the details and repair reasoning along every step of the way.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks Imran, really glad you enjoyed it mate.
@bobhope1462
@bobhope1462 Год назад
Patience is a virtue.great job
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you Bob! It sure is a virtue, and working on cars takes plenty of it. 😂
@kobiroar4221
@kobiroar4221 Год назад
Love the vid mate put across well no fancy tools straight talking a well deserved 10/10
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers mate, really appreciate that! 👍
@monkeywentbananas
@monkeywentbananas 2 года назад
Nice Job! Thanks for including the welder settings, most helpful!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks! Thought it might help people get a head start on their own projects. Although I'm still figuring things out as I go myself 😂
@kennethtalbott2233
@kennethtalbott2233 Год назад
i love watching other people struggle. good job.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Kenneth! You'll love this channel then pal hahaa 🤣
@kennethtalbott2233
@kennethtalbott2233 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH yeah, i like to do similar jobs on me old jags
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@kennethtalbott2233 Nice, you'll be quite familiar with a rust repair too then pal. 😁
@kennethtalbott2233
@kennethtalbott2233 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH yep, if you own a jag be prepared for a bit of welding. love it though. just bought myself a portable car lift. that's gunno be a god send.
@Choober65
@Choober65 Год назад
DAMN, the looks about perfect. That welding was spot on.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you mate! I was really happy with how this came together, especially as a very inexperienced welder. 😃
@davida871
@davida871 Год назад
For first time doing this procedure you did a brilliant job. I need to do the same. Quite nervous about welding around petrol tank filler area though. Did you drop your petrol tank? Thank you for the video. Helped me immensely.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you David! And you're right to be cautious about welding near a fuel tank. Luckily mine was removed at this point in the project so I had no worries. I'm sure if you're very careful using welding blankets you could do the job with the tank in place. Don't start without a fire extinguisher near by though. 👍
@sssds8573
@sssds8573 Год назад
Great job matey definitely can open the welding repair garage
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers pal! 😃
@140rware
@140rware Год назад
First class job. Subscribed.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you mate, welcome aboard! 😃
@martinnaylor
@martinnaylor Год назад
Great video there fella and nice work too. I have an E39 that I've had the jacking points/sills cut out and replaced, just need to sort rear arches too next.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Martin, sounds like you've come a long way with the E39, worth going that extra step I'd say. 😁
@martinnaylor
@martinnaylor Год назад
@SPANNER RASH I've had it 15 years this March so it's part of the family now.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@martinnaylor I've not had an E39 yet but if it's a plusher version of the E46 then I can understand why it's been a keeper. 😄
@shanedoyle1057
@shanedoyle1057 2 года назад
Really enjoying the series. Mine is requiring similar work. So this is a great help. Although if you’d look under the bonnet of mine it actually says, “BMW Brilliant Rot” 🤦‍♂️😂 The corrugated bit underneath, could it be replicated using a bead roller or something I wonder?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Cheers Shane, glad you're enjoying it, and hopefully it'll help you prepare for working on your own. Haha! Yeah, that's always entertained me too, they come in "rot" from the factory. 🤣 A bead roller is a good idea, I suspect you could have a good go if you were handy with it, but I'm pretty sure my crude fix has done the job. You won't be able to see it anyway which is why I didn't try to prettify it too much (at all).
@MrEnver2
@MrEnver2 Год назад
Well done..
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers!
@stephendowney4930
@stephendowney4930 8 месяцев назад
super tip on cutting the patch im doing an old honda and im shitting myself about cutting it out 🤣
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 8 месяцев назад
Yeah it's quite terrifying when you pass the point of no return isn't it. 😅 Sometimes you gotta jump in with both feet though and make it worse before you make it better. Take your time and I'm sure it will work out.
@deebee3901
@deebee3901 Год назад
Lovely work! You're going great.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you! 😃
@paulmarris2568
@paulmarris2568 8 месяцев назад
Hi I enjoyed your video,a top tip is to use compress air to cool the welds to speed up the process thanks to Edd China
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 8 месяцев назад
Cheers Paul, great tip so thanks for sharing that! I do wish I had a quieter compressor though. 🤭
@williwonkah.9242
@williwonkah.9242 Год назад
Top tip, always cover up your windows before grinding. As you'll never get grinding splatter off laminated windows.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Uh oh, I'll have to check my windows 😅 hopefully I've got away with that. 🤞
@talhadasti8794
@talhadasti8794 Год назад
This looks awesome I just bought my first e30 and was scared of how to take care of the fender rust but I'm Def going to give it a shot with your approach now, thanks! Also can I ask why you didn't replace the entire rocker panel instead of making the separate panels?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Awesome I hope your new E30 has minimal rust! Replacing the whole rocker panel felt unnecessary when they appear otherwise in good condition. I may live to regret that decision when I strip all the protective underseal off them though. We will find out! 😅
@talhadasti8794
@talhadasti8794 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH nice man well hope yours isn't too bad but I'm definitely looking forward to more videos!
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 Год назад
clean the paint off first , makes life a lot easier. roloc with 3m scotch pad and it wont remove any metal.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you for the tip, Tom! I'll look that up and check it out, sounds like it'd be a good addition for me if it leaves the metal alone.
@tomthompson7400
@tomthompson7400 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH its amazing how well they work ,, and clean metal is so much easier to work with ,,, I do a fair bit of this stuff.
@khalid95eG
@khalid95eG Год назад
It will rust again from inside out from that support lap joint piece you put in
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
I've actually got good access from inside the car with the rear cards out, so I've made sure its properly protected and seam sealed from the inside, don't worry!
@paulw106
@paulw106 Год назад
Reaally useful thanks, how long did this take you?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Paul, it was a while back but I reckon it takes a weekend!
@arashdavari957
@arashdavari957 Год назад
Well done mate
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Arash!
@dion1970dion
@dion1970dion 2 года назад
Impressive work, I’m learning a lot and enjoying your videos. Subscribed and liked immediately!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Cheers mate, glad to have you on board. :) Still plenty more to come on this E30 project so keep your eyes peeled.
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney Год назад
You missed an opportunity to rust proof the inside of the car before welding it shut, other than that great job, its looking goood
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers! The good news is I can actually access the back of the repair from inside the car still! I subsequently added seam sealer and cavity wax so it should be good to go. I am paranoid about leaving stuff uncoated to be fair. Stuff rusts in the blink of an eye here.
@NjoyMoney
@NjoyMoney Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH I live in finland its really bad here too, especially in the winter with all the salt. Im into 90's honda's so they are prone to rusting too, just like the e30 😆
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@NjoyMoney Ahh they salt the roads in Finland too? That's surprising as I'd have thought it would be of no help given the harsh winters! And absolutely, 90's Hondas are notorious for it too... 😅
@algeniscorrea187
@algeniscorrea187 Год назад
Wondering where did you find the arch. I need the rear driver side arch for a later bmw e24
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
I found them on ebay, check out the links in the description of this video to take a look. Maybe the same seller has E24 rear arches too. Hope that helps!
@retrorust3395
@retrorust3395 2 года назад
Good work pal :) be good to see it finished , u say u seen that technique for the arch on RU-vid , I wonder if you seen mine lol I’ve shown this a few times on my channel I’ve been doing arches ect like this years as give a perfect fit and perfect 1 mm gap for the weld :)
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks mate! If you came up with that technique independently, you're a very smart man. I think I'll always do them like this going forward. 😁
@Gold-winging-it
@Gold-winging-it 7 месяцев назад
Was the replacement panel galvanised ?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 7 месяцев назад
Hi Stephen, yeah in hindsight I'm pretty sure it is galvanised. Good and bad. Good because it makes it corrosion resistant, bad because welding it gives off some nasty gasses that you should avoid breathing in.
@Gold-winging-it
@Gold-winging-it 7 месяцев назад
@@SPANNERRASH to be fair I’ll likely be welding outside. And I was wondering which would be the better panel to go for, mild or galv. I’ll go galv I think. Do t want to have to do the job again as I’m not hugely confident in welding thin stuff. I’ll just practice on some scrap first. Like the video though it’s helpful.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 7 месяцев назад
@@Gold-winging-it Glad the vid is of use to you mate, dial the welder back and do some test pieces like you say. Take your time and I'm sure you will get there like I did.
@Gold-winging-it
@Gold-winging-it 7 месяцев назад
@@SPANNERRASHyeah I’ll make sure I’m happy with the penetration before I start. Like the tip about cutting through the overlaid panel too. To be fair it’s on a van so should have decent access for the inner arch I might have to form that myself though I think.
@therealspixycat
@therealspixycat 6 месяцев назад
Clean the area you're going to cut first
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 месяцев назад
Cheers!
@ВалерийГрибурьев
Заебись 👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Ты тоже! 😃
@ВалерийГрибурьев
@@SPANNERRASH хорошая работа 🙂
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@ВалерийГрибурьев Спасибо, мой друг 👍
@harryellis8873
@harryellis8873 Год назад
Brings back memories watching you do all that that was me on all the old fords drop cills was the worst if you put that in a garage you would get a mad quote and you would just scrap the car you need more practice with your welding sorry x mot inspector should have taken a little paint off you have contamination so your welder is spitting so it comes out like rabbit shit
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Harry, and fair criticism, I'm doing my best to learn as I go. I think I've got the hang of it a bit more since this repair, but still got a lot to learn about welding! Thanks for the advice on removing more paint to reduce contamination. 👍
@darkfactory8082
@darkfactory8082 Год назад
Well done, cut to precision and fitted exactly. The only thing I'm not fan of are the overlapping joints. If you want to avoid rust, the best way is to make butt welds and dress them, so no corrosion is possible after painted. As soon as you introduce laps, you get water and dirt in between the sheets starting rust fast. Since your metal is not that thin and cut to precision, I would avoid laps at all costs, but this is what I would do. 🙂 It doesn't mean you should do it.. It's easier with a back strip but it comes at a price.. 😏 Anyway, cheers and keep on, it looks promising.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks mate! Yep a few people have warned me about the supports I welded in. In an ideal world I do agree that they are a compromise to avoid wherever possible. But in this case I had to make that compromise to be able to do the job with my limited welding experience. The good news is I have good access to the rear side of this repair where the laps are, so have been able to seal them in with seam sealer and cavity wax to prevent future corrosion.
@ToyotaLandCruiser
@ToyotaLandCruiser Год назад
I hate those double layers which someones do to get the parts aligned. So potential place to rust in the future. Did you even apply any weld trough primer?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Each to their own I guess, I'm just a DIY hobbyist so these support brackets made it possible for me to get a decent result first time. Luckily I have good access to the rear of this repair so its now seam sealed in solid. I don't think it'll be rusting any time soon.
@danallured5806
@danallured5806 Год назад
Don't wanna sound like "that guy" lol, but wear gloves when your cutting metal out, don't try to bend it off with your bare hands, you will slip and open up a finger! (Don't ask me how I know!) And you often cut with the wrong side of the angle grinders disc, always use it so that it's dragging away from you, if it kicks if flies away from you, the way you did use it, its more likely to kick and will travel towards you when it does! Apart from that, you're doing a great job! Where are you from?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Dan, I'm taking your suggestions on board regarding grinder safety, fair points indeed. We're up in sunny Yorkshire.
@Smartcars2
@Smartcars2 Год назад
Hi, did you find your new arch was much thinner than original metal work. I'm struggling with my E36 the arch I have is wafer thin and reluctant to try and weld it in incase it folds. Thanks
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Hi Martin, to be honest the metal seemed of a similar gauge. Maybe slightly thinner but not enough to stop me in my tracks. Have you got a vernier calliper on it to compare to the original skin? Should be 16 ga I think Maybe you have received a duff panel for E36. You wouldn't want it to dent too easily.
@endeavour2127
@endeavour2127 Год назад
Great video! You can get all the information you need to repair rust on a car from a guy on RU-vid called Fitzees Fabrications, they guy is a genius and ideal for people having a go themselves. He uses only basic tools to do the work. I completed my whole car using his videos.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers! That sounds like a great channel I'll look that one up and check it out. 👍
@ianlynn5117
@ianlynn5117 Год назад
Top job I am starting on outer sills and rear arches on Mazda 2 dy 2006 totally will use this …. Wish me luck
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Ian, I hope it works out well for you on the Mazda. Take your time and I'm sure you'll get it sorted!
@mikle65
@mikle65 Год назад
I dont know what is your plan later but i wouldn't advise to use primer as rust prevention inside where you cant see it anyway. Use quality metal paint. As primer can absorb moisture from the air and over time it will cause corrosion.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
That's sound advice, I've found that some primers do just that, only epoxy primer seals it properly. Cheers!
@SwedesGarage
@SwedesGarage Год назад
Man I wish I had watched this video before i f...ked up my own car, I should have put support in the back before welding.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Oh dear... 😅 The supports make this way easier, especially when you're a beginner welder like me! Maybe you can cut it out and fix it still using this method?
@SwedesGarage
@SwedesGarage Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH Thanks for reply, I'll figure something out when time comes.
@АндрейКазаков-л7ф8я
Безумный. Можно было не отрезать столько крыла. Ты отрезал много живого тела. Потом порезал порог. Угол стал ,,болтаться,,. Большое поле сварки дасть большое искривление плоскости.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Спасибо за понимание этого. Вероятно, я вырезал больше, чем нужно, но я боялся оставить ржавчину или ямки за панелью. Ваш совет ценен для следующего ремонта, как это.
@stormytempest6521
@stormytempest6521 Год назад
No, Just backstep or wander when welding after Tacking up ! you done OK for the job in hand, it's mig welding not gas welding, no where near the same amount of heat given off ! Still you done OK.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks for the tips! Cheers 👍
@stephendowney4930
@stephendowney4930 Год назад
that was great to watch lad,im doing the same job to an old honda and i keep putting it off 😅👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Stephen, get stuck in pal, you'll be glad you got it sorted. 👍
@paulpaintshop103
@paulpaintshop103 Год назад
I usually clamp the repair piece on (slightly oversize, then cut through both panels with 30tooth blade in the air saw, this way there's no shaping up to fit and it leaves a 1mm gap for welding. Also I cool the welds with an airline to minimise distortion.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Paul, I quite like the idea of your technique, even if your air saw work isn't perfectly straight, if its through both panels they'll fit together perfectly like a jigsaw. I do have a small air saw but to be honest, it leaves slightly rougher edges, although no doubt that's more of an issue with the blades I've got. The airline to cool it is good too. I was giving a good amount of time to allow the panels to cool again but of course, the breaks didn't make the edit! 😂
@vwcoco
@vwcoco Год назад
Cracking job m8 def help me out on my recent caddy pickup barn find 👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Awesome, I hope there's some useful tips in there for you pal. Good luck with the Caddy restoration, sounds like a cool project.
@vwcoco
@vwcoco Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH yeah cool caddy barn field last week to go along side my 36 aircooled vws -vwcoco 👍
@whomeme3478
@whomeme3478 Год назад
I really enjoy watching someone that takes their time and puts pride into their work. Fair play you did a cracking job! New subscriber!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers mate! I was really happy with the result on this one. Did better than I thought I could do. I have more welding to do on this project yet. So hopefully I'll be able to keep the good results coming.
@radioactiveanomaly6567
@radioactiveanomaly6567 Год назад
you forgot to remove the galvanization from the patch panel before welding. you should in general remove one inch of it around the area you're welding. The fumes that come of that isnt healthy
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
I am aware that it's very bad for you, although I'm not convinced either the car or the aftermarket panels are galvanised. Do you think they are?
@radioactiveanomaly6567
@radioactiveanomaly6567 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH They are. i can see that they are in the video. and the welds were abit to cold and may not have melted in deep enough. Im a autobody tech.
@howguy
@howguy Год назад
No gloves, no disc protection, no handle to the grinder, an accident waiting to happen… Stay safe
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
I find the grinder a nightmare to use in tight areas with all that stuff on, but you're certainly right, it's less than ideal. I should take more care!
@Black_Cat_XIII
@Black_Cat_XIII Год назад
My instructor told me to never wear cloves on rotating devices. Fingers could be ripped off.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@Black_Cat_XIII That's an interesting take on it, I can see some logic too, especially if you were using a lathe or a mill machine. Lethal!
@garywinterbottom6073
@garywinterbottom6073 Год назад
Relatively new cars should not be rusty I thought most were zinc galvanized bodywork.?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Any modern car is just as capable of rusting from what I've seen. Some are more notorious than others though. I'm not totally sure whether the BMW E30 was a galvanized body, I didn't think so but might be wrong! Either way I've seen much younger cars with much worse rust! 😂
@garywinterbottom6073
@garywinterbottom6073 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH true as a lad in the 70s most cars weren't rustproofed certainly not galvanized and I uk were usually rotten after 8 to 10 years of salt on our winter roads but as you say some seem to be bad french cars are pretty rustfree vws Audi's seems to be front wings I've had Japanese cars over last 12 years and none have had any body corrosion at all having said that they have all been under 10years old . I had a mk2 1.3 golf and at 13 years old had only a few bubbles on rear valance.
@garylatto4191
@garylatto4191 4 месяца назад
Great vid mate , nice job too 👏, got my fronts to do on a t4 🤞🤞
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
Cheers pal! Was happy with the result, skim of filler and you'd never know it was there. Good luck with the T4!
@Moocow444
@Moocow444 4 дня назад
Pretty damn good with no filler!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 дня назад
Thanks! I think just a skim and it will be spot on
@SG901
@SG901 Год назад
always good to see how others do the repair and learn from it. keep up the good work. Have to weld this year also 2 or more BMW s . The welding is the more easy part off the repair for me. Getting to remove all the rust and need space for the grinder is often the most difficult and off course making the repair panels.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you, Geert! Getting repair panels shaped up correctly is the worst I'd say, it takes so much time.
@ColinBarrett001
@ColinBarrett001 Год назад
Absolutely brilliant. This is exactly the job I will shortly be doing on one of my classics. Thanks so much for sharing.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Colin, hope you're successful with the same repair. Take your time and I'm sure it'll work out, as it did for me. 👍
@George-pp1ph
@George-pp1ph Год назад
Should turn the welder down it’s too strong for your panel
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers George, I'll continue to play around with the settings. Really difficult to get it just right where the weld sinks in but doesn't blow through. Feel like I've got the hang of it a bit more since this repair though. 😁
@jorelkrypto7475
@jorelkrypto7475 Год назад
Thanks for the demo, exactly what I was looking for. Just subscribed to your channel. Awesome job!!!👍👍👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Glad to have you on board pal, hope the vids help you out! 😁
@groovedwareman
@groovedwareman Год назад
Good video, thanks (but I hope that cutting disc doesn't shatter or you might have a bad day indeed).
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers hope it's useful for you! Yeah, I think there are better cutting tools for some of those more awkward to get to welds. But you gotta use what you have. Agreed it's foolish though, I've been lucky again.
@groovedwareman
@groovedwareman Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH Yes, very useful for me, thanks, as I have a BMW 318 Tourer with rust in similar areas. You present the video well as well. Like your choice of music, too. You take care, now...
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@groovedwareman Thank you! I hope you get the touring sorted and rust free. I always did like the touring shape.
@MettaTrance
@MettaTrance Год назад
This is amazing and pretty unique guide and your honesty in stating that its your first time doing such a major project makes it all the more authentic rather than the 'im a pro' videos where the end result is normally sub par. I own an old Metro which was my first car 12 years ago and it needs its arch repairing this year. I got it done 4 years ago but they clearly just botched it to make it look good and neglected the inner arch rust. I have armed myself with a welder and months of research and will be taking the job on myself this time to make sure its done to the best standard. It's nice to see the way in which you methodically untied the panels and rebuild them up one by one. By the way, you should check out 'bilt hamber' - their rust cavity protection products are some of the best out there. Subbed :)
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you for such a kind comment, I really appreciate that! :D Sorry to hear that the previous fix on the Metro wasn't up to scratch, I think you're doing the right thing taking matters into your own hands. If you take your time and you should get the same result I did on my E30. I really hope it works out well for you mate.
@stefanogeepoca537
@stefanogeepoca537 Год назад
Stupendo lavoro ciao e grazie per il video 😉👋👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
¡Gracias por ver, espero que lo hayas disfrutado amigo! 😃
@maxtoledano9168
@maxtoledano9168 Год назад
Too many hours of work for such rubbish BMW
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
😂 Each to their own! This rubbish BMW might end up my dream fun weekend car in the end.
@recall2880
@recall2880 Год назад
Awesome! Can you do my Vauxhall Cavalier arches? Paid obviously
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Super flattered that you'd trust me to work on your Cavalier, but I'm too swamped with my own project. Any bodyshop worth their salt should be able to undertake this same style of repair though, and probably a lot better than my DIY efforts! :D
@recall2880
@recall2880 Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH It’s the care you took in doing it is what got me. A1 if you ask me! Any idea what a body shop might charge to do that? Thanks for the reply. Great video
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@recall2880 Thank you for that! 😁 Hmm tough to say, but if panels are available I reckon you could expect to pay a few hundred for the job. Its quite a time consuming one, especially once you've factored paint in!
@GrandThriftAuto
@GrandThriftAuto 2 года назад
Great job! And a nice clear video too. I’m doing the rear arches on my Honda Aerodeck at the moment, but the inners are a lot farther gone and there are no inner wing repair panels so it’s a lot of work. I have an E30 too but luckily that’s mostly solid…mostly.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks! That's a shame you can't get the panels. Maybe you can get panels for the inner arches of another model and beat them to fit correctly? They're well hidden in the wheel arch anyway. I'm actually doing the inner arch on this E30 next as its currently a gaping hole. If your E30 is solid, hang on to it because they're hard to find these days! I'd say my one is pretty good compared to most.
@rizaanjappie
@rizaanjappie Год назад
Should, the car not be braced so as to prevent the body from warping
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Interesting idea, do you mean warping from being propped up in the position it's in, or from the heat of the welding? To be fair, the welding is all very low temp stuff. I took my time way more than it looks in the vid.
@rizaanjappie
@rizaanjappie Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH I've been advised that cutting on the frames/sills etc can cause the body to crimp. If you know what I mean. But you didn't really cut that much away at the sills. I need to do a similar job on a opel Astra mk2. Love your tools man. They make a major diff.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@rizaanjappie Ahh yes, its certainly sound advice to follow. I'm fairly confident the way I did it hasn't caused the body to move. If it were a convertible I'd be much more concerned though! 😆
@mrlondon963
@mrlondon963 Год назад
Marvellous show, excellent narrative 👏
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers pal! 😁
@diegosilang4823
@diegosilang4823 Год назад
I am working on restoring a 1968 Cutlass and I have huge section of the quarter panel skin, on both sides, skin to be replaced, adding the support is ingenuous.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Awesome, I hope that trick works well for you on the Cutlass pal. It really does make the job a lot easier!
@777rakso
@777rakso Год назад
great job mate, been dreading doing this to my civic but this video made the process seem very rewarding
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Oskar, I was pretty intimidated by this job, but really happy with how it came out in the end.
@Supercarlsunday
@Supercarlsunday 2 года назад
I've welded half my car up, made a front lower wing out of a golf gti sill, also replaced quarter panel, battery tray area was all rotted out. Jobs a 🥕 now check my vids 😆👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
You've fixed some things that didn't look fixable, and I hope my garage paint job comes out just as well as yours when I get to that.
@Supercarlsunday
@Supercarlsunday 2 года назад
@@SPANNERRASH Your an absolute gentleman. Thank you for your kind words. 🙂👍
@chrischadwick3079
@chrischadwick3079 Год назад
Surprised all these hours work for an old car,is it worth it ?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
It depends on how you calculate it. It definitely doesn't make financial sense! But it's something I'm doing for pleasure in my free time, and the experience of learning new things about my passion, which is old BMWs! 😆 There are much worse ways to lose time and money I reckon.
@chrischadwick3079
@chrischadwick3079 Год назад
Really enjoyed the video,I too have a passion for early BMW 3 series.well done young man.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
@@chrischadwick3079 Thank you Chris, I'm glad you enjoyed it! 👍
@stephensomersify
@stephensomersify Год назад
liked and subscribed - I've got to face my own project - so,, BIG THANKS for wading in. Old git,UK
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Stephen, glad to have you on board! Best of luck with the project. 😁
@bennyben8390
@bennyben8390 Год назад
I got to say that is a cracking job. I was wondering if you will be able to do my car. Requires a passenger side rear quarter panel which is rusted. Keep up the good work.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Ben, I'm really flattered you'd ask me to work on your car! To be honest though, I'm just a humble DIYer really with barely any time to get my own stuff done so wouldn't take jobs on. I've got my hands (and workshop) full already basically! I encourage you to have a go yourself though. 😁
@leeyo5494
@leeyo5494 4 месяца назад
you did a great job there it looked that your new pannel had a bit of a misshape around the bit you welded, before you used it, near the arch edge rim, so it was never going to be perfect and need filler what ever you did
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
Thanks! Yeah they arent the best panels in the world, and it's my first try doing anything like this. I am hopeful that after a skim of filler you'd never know it was there, I'm pleased with that!😄
@leeyo5494
@leeyo5494 4 месяца назад
@@SPANNERRASH i saw one body guy on you tube he keeps some flat head plasterboard / roofing type nails for blow holes and small patch holes for easy welding , you just hold the nail point with your glove or grips and just weld it in, just saying a tip i saw
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
@@leeyo5494 Interesting idea, I guess it works like some extra wire feed. Since this vid I discovered that you can use a copper block on the rear surface where possible and that makes it far easier to avoid blow throughs!
@leeyo5494
@leeyo5494 4 месяца назад
@@SPANNERRASH hi i dont have a compressor gun so i have to use cans, do you know any spray cans i can use to put on my metal after i weld in high rust areas like new sills archs etc, thank you
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
@@leeyo5494 Hi Lee, once you've got your metal prepped and clean the best stuff to use is a epoxy primer, but this is a 2-part paint and if you don't have a compressor then it's tough to get. Zinc primer the rear faces of any panels you do (effectively weld-through primer), and on the exterior probably a light spray of etch first then a normal primer (zinc is fine), then prep and paint with colour and clear as normal, or undercoat like Dinitrol if its the underside. Hope that helps.
@garethplaysdrums
@garethplaysdrums Год назад
great job, nice video too
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Gareth, glad you enjoyed it 😁
@ChopperMeir
@ChopperMeir 2 года назад
Absolutely spot on video mate. I've been putting off doing a 1/4 repair on the other half's 88 Panda 4x4 and that technique of cutting both panels is definitely the way I'm going after this. Also that cordless grinder is very sexy 👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks mate hope you picked up some good tips for the Panda job. 👍 And the Dewalt grinder is great, but it'd be better if it had a speed control. 😂
@adeh503
@adeh503 Год назад
Good work man, I remember doing my first arch year's ago and crapping myself the morning of the job 😄 I've seen a similar method of cutting for the new arch where the new metal is clamped on like you had it but, when they cut around it the angle grinder was at 45 degrees and every 6 inches of cut it was then tacked in, leaving the old metal at the back to drop off at the end.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Ade! Ahh yes I've seen that before too, you gotta have some confidence to do it like that, but it looked like a nice quick way to do it.
@465painkiller465
@465painkiller465 Год назад
I'll be tackling this kinda work on my e46 soon eough and if it ends up looking as well as this then I'd be very pleased with that. Good job mate
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thanks Josef. I hope the repair goes well on the E46. If you have similar repair panels to me I'm sure you'll be able to do it. This was my first attempt at such a thing and I feel like It went pretty well. 😁
@lesbaty8919
@lesbaty8919 Год назад
Dropped you a sub; you made a nice job of that mate , as you said heat distortion is the biggest problem here but turned out great , thanks for sharing 👍👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you Les, and great to have you on board mate! 😁
@bryanwilliams7530
@bryanwilliams7530 Год назад
Brilliant work, respect to you taking it on without having done it before, results in video are extremely impressive 👏 👍🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿👍 subscribed
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you, Bryan! I was pretty pleased with the results considering how intimidated I was by this job. Glad to have you on board. 😁
@aleksej79novosibirsk
@aleksej79novosibirsk 6 месяцев назад
This was great :)
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 6 месяцев назад
Thank you! 😃
@snhongo1
@snhongo1 4 месяца назад
Great video there…
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 4 месяца назад
Thank you!
@medievilassassin
@medievilassassin 2 года назад
Great work mate 😎
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Cheers Jason! I'm starting to believe I'll get there now :D
@kaibrown987
@kaibrown987 Год назад
Looking really good. 😁😁 once painted you never know. Cracking job well done 😄
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you Kai! I was pretty happy with it. Looking forward to painting this car.
@YANDEX30V
@YANDEX30V Год назад
And I use stick welder ; it's a labour and half. Great idea about pre welding strips for panel to sit on, I learned something there. Ty
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Yeah thats an awesome trick, works perfect for me! I've never used a stick welder, I imagine its harder than a mig to get a neat result.
@przemekpaleczek90
@przemekpaleczek90 3 месяца назад
Good job 👍🇵🇱
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 3 месяца назад
Cheers! 😃
@ronbunker5778
@ronbunker5778 Год назад
Great tutorial! I'm getting ready to do this very thing on my 1973 Chevy Vega! Thanks!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Awesome, hope my vid helps you out with the Chevy work. Best of luck with it! 😁
@mariosnikolaou5212
@mariosnikolaou5212 2 года назад
Really nice m8.I was watching a video about mig welding and the guy told that the welding point must sound like a frying bacon.Yours doesn't sound this much loud but also i can see that you get a lot of buildup and maybe not so much penetration... Remember weld means that you essential melt the metals and so they bond together.Just bought myself an e30 but its almost completely rust free. Greetings from Greece!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Hi Mario, thanks for the tip on that, I'm definitely a beginner welder and learning as I go, but when I grind the welds back down totally smooth, if I've done it right then the metal has become one. And where it hasn't, I have to weld again. :D It's really tough to get the welding consistent, you need to be using enough power that you melt the metal you are welding together (just like you say), but not so much that it blows a hole in it, and with thin sheet metal that is a very fine line! Hopefully, I'll get better and better at it as I gain more experience. It's one of those things which is way harder than it first appears. I'm jealous that you found a rust free E30, they are too rare! :)
@lawncuttingplusdelta
@lawncuttingplusdelta Год назад
Nice work … great 👍🏻 to see the work being done , to teach and motivate others !
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you Paul, that's very kind of you to say! 😁
@c3dk
@c3dk Год назад
I want a E30:- ) And good job :- ))
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you! 👍 You should get an E30 soon before it's too expensive to buy a good one. 😃
@c3dk
@c3dk Год назад
@@SPANNERRASH I know, and I would say, I should have bought 5 years ago.....
@jeremyjenks
@jeremyjenks Год назад
rad for first time
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Jeremy! 😁
@uh1200
@uh1200 Год назад
Das mit dem Blech hinter der Schweißnaht ist keine gute Lösung,bei meinem E 46 Cabrio wurde ein Unfallschaden so repariert nach 4 Jahren war alles am rosten
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Die Stützen haben zwar ihre Mängel, aber da ich ein unerfahrener Schweißer bin, habe ich sie verwendet, um mir diese Reparatur zu einem guten kosmetischen Standard zu ermöglichen. Ich denke, wenn ich diesen Job noch einmal machen würde, würde ich versuchen, es ohne zu machen. Beim Schweißen von dünnen Blechen bin ich heute etwas sicherer, obwohl ich noch viel lernen muss. Die gute Nachricht ist, dass ich von innen guten Zugang zur Rückseite dieser Paneele habe, also werde ich sicher sein, sie richtig zu versiegeln. Ich werde wahrscheinlich in Zukunft ein Update machen, um zu sehen, ob sie verrostet sind. Danke!
@margustamm
@margustamm День назад
Good job. Is there a video of how you made and installed the inner piece of the arch?
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH День назад
Cheers! 😃 I got the inner repaired too in a following video: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Irtl7QS1hJU.html Check out the E30 playlist, there are a few weld repair vids which may be useful to you.
@alexandrealmeida2932
@alexandrealmeida2932 Год назад
Bom trabalho de reparo.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Obrigado Alexandre 👍
@freedohmcreations
@freedohmcreations Год назад
Great content... 👍
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you!
@aarondavidsmith208
@aarondavidsmith208 2 года назад
Awesome! I'm about to tackle a very similar job on my e30 convertible. Absolutely golden reference video for me. Thank you.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Cheers Aaron! Hope you pick up a few tips from it. Good luck getting your convertible sorted out. :)
@nigelhaines7900
@nigelhaines7900 Год назад
good job mate
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Cheers Nigel! 😁
@surffoodkulture
@surffoodkulture Год назад
it always take so much longer as we think in the beginning 🙂
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
That's far too true 😅
@SwPiotrek
@SwPiotrek Год назад
Very nice!
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you! 😃
@leedsguyuk69
@leedsguyuk69 Год назад
Excellent buddy, I really enjoyed it 👌
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Glad to hear it Baz! Cheers 😃
@HorstSchmidt
@HorstSchmidt 2 года назад
Very helpful and fun to watch as well. Good job.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thanks Horst! Glad you enjoyed it :)
@justinhoelker376
@justinhoelker376 2 года назад
Awesome. I swear your car has all the same issues as mine. When you got into the rocker panel - I could feel your pain lol
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Hey Justin, yeah I was gutted to see what a state it was inside there. I definitely wasn't expecting it to be that bad.. But at least it's on its way to being sorted now. :)
@justinhoelker376
@justinhoelker376 Год назад
Out of curiosity do you recall the thickness of the metal you used for the inner skin patch panel? Thanks!
@detailingworx2017
@detailingworx2017 Год назад
Amazing work,loved the vid
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH Год назад
Thank you mate, glad you enjoyed it! 👍
@jurgendiscoapa8182
@jurgendiscoapa8182 2 года назад
Dude nice job. Im right here too with my 325 mtech2 since some time back, but also changing the inner wheelhouse panel, some frustrating work to make the smallest amount of work, for the best outcome. Gave me some more motivation to continue. Please continue sharing! :)
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
Thank you Jürgen :) Are you replacing the entire inner arch? I've got to repair mine but luckily it's mostly intact so I can avoid a full replacement. It's a huge job repairing the rust on these cars, I am chipping away at it bit by bit, and hopefully you are too. I'm glad my video gave you some encouragement to keep going with your Mtech II restoration, it'll be well worth saving!
@jurgendiscoapa8182
@jurgendiscoapa8182 2 года назад
SPANNER RASH yeah that looked easier. I’ve repaired the jack stand like you also. But i need to change both sides inner arch, but only the outer side. But to be able to weld them properly i need to cut out almost the whole side. Feels a bit sketchy.
@SPANNERRASH
@SPANNERRASH 2 года назад
@@jurgendiscoapa8182 Nice, and yeah sometimes you have to cut more out than you'd like to, to be able to access everything and do a proper repair. We're lucky that outer repair panels are so easily available to replace it. :)
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