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BMW E61(E71) Tailgate Problems, soft-closing mechanism and others. 

Elite Bimmers
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My station wagon (2009 E61) started to have an issue with the tailgate not getting shut all the way...
Parts that may need to be replaced:
Numbers are pulled from the 2009 BMW 535xi E61, your part numbers may be different!
Relay changer salmon-red: 12631742690 x2
Power distribution box, rear: 61149138830
Control unit, tailgate lift: 61357188110
Trunk lid lock (solenoid): 51247114612
Trunk lid power lock drive (a soft-closing mechanism): 67107114613
Tailgate wiring kit: 61119231820 and 61119231821
Stops: 61119241656 and 61119241657
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@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
The links that I found useful about various tailgate problems: www.bimmerforums.com/forum/showthread.php?2353569-Tailgate-Soft-Close-Issue www.bimmerforums.co.uk/threads/2007-e61-530d-soft-close-boot.65005/ www.bmwrepairguide.com/bmw-e61/bmw-e61-trunk-leak-sunroof-drain-failure-2004-2010-5-series-touring-wagon/ 5series.net/forums/e60-discussion-2/trunk-fuse-box-swap-%5Bquestion%5D-142641/ If you found a link on this subject, please comment, let’s make one big list of solutions for E61/E71 tailgate problems.
@A.TuckerDerstine
@A.TuckerDerstine Год назад
This is such a helpful video, thank you so much. I’m glad I found it before I started pulling all my trim panels to look for faulty wiring. Thank you!!
@Samfernandojobs
@Samfernandojobs Год назад
Very nice explanation bro.. thank you 🙏 ❤
@socoloveugeniu7357
@socoloveugeniu7357 2 года назад
I do have the exact same problem since a week now. Contrary to your situation, everything is working fine - rear wiper perfectly fine, water is pumped well. In rest identical, soft close doesn’t react, respectively interior lights do not turn off and the alarm continuously blinking. While checking (unwrapping the tailgate plastics), mechanisms work quiet well. Lock is reacting fine, soft close mechanism is also working. What does bring doubts in my situation is the fact that, while holding the tailgate open and pressing the open button - the soft close latch does a 360 degrees turn. Obviously, the mechanism is in good condition and it works. It is only stuck in open position and doesn’t recognize the “closed” position. Therefore, at this exact moment I do think whether it is the solenoids in the lock which are broken and I have to change the lock, or it will be solved as easy as in your case, with a relay swap (as I also found enough moisture traces in the relay and computer blocks compartment). I still think what should I do tomorrow, try first with a different lock (found on dismantling) or give it a chance to new relays. Will leave my solution when done. Until then, useful information for you: 1) Tailgate lock part# 7197081 (or long version as on the part UK 7197081-01 2) Relay part#: - Red ones 1742 690 (long 12.63-1 742 690) - Green one 8 373 700 (long 61.36-8 373 700)
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 2 года назад
Thank you for sharing! These answers will help a lot of E61 owners!
@rainerbroekman604
@rainerbroekman604 2 года назад
I got the exact same situation. How did you fix it?
@mcrazy3350
@mcrazy3350 Год назад
@SOCOLOV EUGENIU did you solve the issue? I have the same issue where the lock functions fine (no broken spring) and the soft lock pin rotates 360 deg while holding the tailgate open and pressing the open button the button. When I shut the tailgate, I don't hear the soft lock pin rotating and the tailgate doesn't lock all the way. I have a trip planned in less than a week and I need to get this resolved. Any help would be appreciated.
@svetoslaviliev6819
@svetoslaviliev6819 6 месяцев назад
What "special" solution did you use for cleaning out water damage?
@aakemp238
@aakemp238 8 месяцев назад
My one shut , soft closed good, but when you need open, only half way , open only manually from inside, any one have same issue?
@angela0715
@angela0715 7 месяцев назад
Mine tries to open but it's like the latch is stuck locked. It will release just a little but gets stuck on the latch, I have to get inside to release it
@donmarkon
@donmarkon 4 года назад
I have 100% exactly the same problem. To be precise i don't have power at all on that bottom lock no 12v at all. That pin doesn't turn when the boot is closed (there is a switch inside which tells to the car that boot is closed) I have open boot warning and cant open glass. Can you just tell me this was this soft lock 67107114613 working at all in your case? (before Relay swap?)
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
Yes, mine was working. I connected 12v to soft lock directly it was revolving that lock’s pin.
@donmarkon
@donmarkon 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers maybe I wasn't clear enough sorry about it Was it working on its usual wire when it was connected
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
@@donmarkon It's all good. I hope you get it figured out!
@donmarkon
@donmarkon 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers thank you Can you please tell me this, When you had the problem was the soft lock of the boot working as intended ? From the video I think that it wasn't, as soft lock turn that pin and close the boot to perfect position ...
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
donmarkon yes, mine was not working. I found that it was due to one of the orange relays being damaged by water.
@LubomirTzekov
@LubomirTzekov 4 года назад
Very helpful video! Thank you for including part numbers!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
You are welcome!
@typhoon5445
@typhoon5445 3 года назад
can anyone tell me which fues it it that controls the soft close. Im sure the last time this happened it was the fues but im not sure which one
@powpow4033
@powpow4033 3 года назад
Hey. Question about the adjustment of the left and right alignment. Fhere are to aparently screus on the sides which i belive act like stopers for the lid. Mines are not turning in and out. Any tips on how to adjust these? Miy left side is more towards the rear than the right side
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
I know what you are referring to, and I think mine was twisting without problems. I am out of town for a few weeks and away from my cars, cannot verify how hard you have to twist those for adjustment.
@rezadm
@rezadm 3 месяца назад
Mine not opening
@AudiRallyTeam
@AudiRallyTeam 4 года назад
This was a problem for me too. I wish I was started with those relays (wich actually was the fault). I started with tailgate wiring. Rewired some of the wires, because some of them was actually damaged. After a lot of mess, there was no result. Thanks to this video, problem is solved. Thumbs up for this guy!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
Thank you for your positive feedback!
@tammypulsifer8929
@tammypulsifer8929 4 года назад
Where are the relays and modules located?
@tammypulsifer8929
@tammypulsifer8929 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers can you help me with the location of the relays and tailgate module?
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
Under the spare tire. You need to remove it, and after that remove styrofoam parts. It is on the very bottom.
@tammypulsifer8929
@tammypulsifer8929 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers we took it all apart the only thing under there was air control for suspension. I was going to send you a pic but can't figure out how to upload it
@themorfill
@themorfill 3 года назад
Great video. I have this problem, with the boot lid sticking out on the left side of the car just like yours, but all my relays work. What else can I try?
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Does your car have a hydraulic/power tailgate? Although it should not matter because that soft-close motor must close it all the way. I really don't know what to say. These tailgates issues can be annoying to track down.
@themorfill
@themorfill 3 года назад
@@EliteBimmers it does have the power tailgate. I think I might have just discovered the problem. A broken wire in the left hinge. I'm going to fix it now. I'll let you know.
@themorfill
@themorfill 3 года назад
A broken red and grey wire in the left ha D hinge was causing the issue with the tailgate. In my car 7 of the 9 wires were knackered and one was completely broken. Mine is a 2006 530D Touring.
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Yeah... it’s one of the weakest parts of this car - tailgate wiring. Thank you for adding this information! Hopefully, it will be useful for fellow wagon owners.
@brucelee3177
@brucelee3177 4 года назад
Thank u!!!
@Zhuko_BF3
@Zhuko_BF3 3 года назад
Thank you for your contribution to the community. Was the trunk lid working before changing the relays? My boot lid does not open automatically and I have to raise it by hand, but once up it does lower automatically. If during the way down I interrupt it by pressing the button, it stops and if I press it again, it goes up, but never goes up from the closed position. Any ideas? Thanks again @Elite Bimmers
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Hello! Thank you for your comment. My trunk lid was lowering and raising ok even with a bad relay. I understand that that relay is responsible only for the soft-close mechanism. Someone already had an issue similar to yours. That E61 owner reported a broken wiring loom. Hope it helps.
@xcountry1582
@xcountry1582 2 года назад
It could also be an issue with your hydraulic pump/reservoir being low on fluid causing it to not have the power needed to open it from a closed position but still able to control it in a different position.
@CabrioSerge
@CabrioSerge Год назад
Hey, did you fix the issue? I had half gallon of water in my trunk. After I cleaned and dryied all the blocks my trunk lid going up when i press the button, but it does not want to go down, when i click the button on the trunk. It simply tries to go up a little more each time I press.
@Zhuko_BF3
@Zhuko_BF3 Год назад
@@CabrioSerge Hello, there was no way. The exact same thing you described happened to me, traced 100%. I ended up giving up already tired of spending money and switched to a conventional shock absorber. In the hole at the bottom of the trunk is the module that controls the operation of the trunk lid and perhaps it has been damaged as a result of the ingress of water. I'm assuming you've already done that but check the sunroof drains. They tend to get stuck. By the way, from inside the trunk, accessing from the side drawers behind the lights, you can remove the terminals from the drains and check them. With the simple gesture of pulling them and removing them from their housing, you can extract the plugs that are fitted at the end as standard and this will make it more difficult for them to get stuck. I wish you luck :thumbup:
@CabrioSerge
@CabrioSerge Год назад
@@Zhuko_BF3 thanks for fast reply. I already put low mileage sunroof from Japan domestic market e61, and did a the drains. Accidentally spilled a bottle of water in a trunk. I will try to reteach the opening process with some diagnostics
@tsvetoslavivanov206
@tsvetoslavivanov206 3 года назад
Great video - just have one question. How did you code the option to close the trunk via the key fob? There are option in the HKL module which I coded in but it doesn’t work.. I see you pressed long to open and pressed once to close - that’s what I’m after but can’t seem to find the correct option to code. Thank you!!!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Thank you for your comment! Yes, it’s coded in HKL. I used Carly app to code it. That’s the only thing I have done. I used Carly app for all of my cars (E70 and two E61s) to add this opening/closing feature. Hope it works for you!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
And yes, if it’s programmed, to active the tailgate to open it’s a long press. To close its regular one.
@tsvetoslavivanov206
@tsvetoslavivanov206 3 года назад
@@EliteBimmers thank you for the reply! I wanted to make sure that it worked, so I’ll give it a go tonight. Thanks again!
@bmwe6xcsm913
@bmwe6xcsm913 2 года назад
@@EliteBimmers Hi, do you know if the glass can be opened from the key fob? Short press did it on my previous e46. Does not work on the e61
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 2 года назад
I don't think it can do it. At least I never used a short press function.
@qix76
@qix76 4 года назад
Very glad you sorted out! ;) Nice vid!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
Thank you!
@simeonsimeonov1518
@simeonsimeonov1518 4 года назад
Have you experienced issues with the hydraulic mechanism itself? Mine cannot initially lift the tailgate so I have to help it a bit to lift it.
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
Not yet, mine is working great so far. May be your hydraulic fluid level low?
@simeonsimeonov1518
@simeonsimeonov1518 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers Many thanks for the reply! The level is fine, but the pump still struggles to lift the tailgate.
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 4 года назад
@@simeonsimeonov1518 I talked to another E61 owner, he had a very similar problem to yours and he replaced hydraulic strut with lines. Good luck!
@simeonsimeonov1518
@simeonsimeonov1518 4 года назад
@@EliteBimmers Thanks for the info. I appreciate it!
@aquaticwong
@aquaticwong 3 года назад
This vid has helped me so, much.. Thanks.. Quick question what the green relay for next to the 2 reds..?.. Thanks
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Thank you for your comment! I played with those, but now don’t recall what it is for :)
@dawaone5343
@dawaone5343 3 года назад
Air suspension
@aquaticwong
@aquaticwong 3 года назад
@@dawaone5343 cool I do t run air suspension anymore so I may just remove its and earth out
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 3 года назад
Thank you for contributing to this subject! The car in the video has air suspension deleted. That’s why it didn’t do anything when I unplugged those :))
@dawaone5343
@dawaone5343 3 года назад
@@EliteBimmers No problem, I got that relay destroyed by water in trunk and got "Level control system failure" and my rear suspension dropped. After changing it it was all good.
@sergio_bordo
@sergio_bordo 3 года назад
Отлично!
@michaelmo6521
@michaelmo6521 2 года назад
Респект тебе бро! Good job!
@EliteBimmers
@EliteBimmers 2 года назад
Спасибо 🙏🏼
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