BMW M1000R..is it worth the money? 

Yeah, I'm really impressed, too. The S1k lost every side by side with Mancs riding, and then also won each one with Baz riding But ut proves S1kR is all you ever need for the road.

Thankyou very very very much 😊 we appreciate this a lot and it helps the channel when we get positive comments like this, hope you enjoyed the view 👍🏼 S1kr for the win 😁

Thankyou, we really appreciate the feedback. Cheers for watching too, keep it up 😁👍🏼

Yes we know that the value of the parts are more but paying all of that extra money is not worth the riding experience when it’s almost identical. After having the m1000r for over three months, we can definitely confirm that it is not worth the extra 10k over the s1000r…. In our opinion. This article is also wrong because the s1000r also has most of the things that it lists as standard, from that list it does not have the forged wheels or the billet levers. But you are quite right, if you spec up a standard s1000r with the forged wheels, Akrapovic exhaust and the levers then you will be up to the price of the standard m1000r. Thanks for watching and for the comment too 👍🏼

@@Mancs1000r wasn’t really arguing with you to be honest. Just was looking into it as I thought it was interesting. I know you said the carbon wheels were £2500 in the video and I know that’s out by quite a bit as they are usually between 3 and 4 grand. I paid almost 4 for a set of bst green carbon candy wheels for my h2. Buying anything from bmw directly afterwards they charge fortunes. The M rear sets alone are like £700. I believe thyssenkrupp make bmw carbon wheels or used to anyway.

Also my mate got the bt moto stage 1 kit for his m1000. Increases the mid range by about 50hp with a system on it. Was dynod before and after. The euro laws kill those bikes really. All costs more money tho !

They do charge a ridiculous amount of money for the carbon wheels if you buy them afterwards but if you spec the bike to buy from new the carbon wheels are only £2150. It would be worth buying them, selling them and putting standard wheels on. Sorry if it sounded like I was arguing.. I never argue with anyone online, I don’t see the point 😊 H2.. nice bike btw, I’m looking forward to riding the zh2 soon.

Yeah I’ve seen an American guy that does some kind of mod to him m1000r and gets the same result, then does a side by side with a standard m1000r

Yeah we finally figured that out after watching this video, it’s like a second delay. Thanks for your comment 😁👍🏼

Cheers for the comment and for watching the video, it’s much appreciated 😊👍🏼

Yes. My very point. The S1kR is value for money. By far. The MR is just pub talk. 210bhp. Carbon. Its all nonsense, really. I enjoyed my S1kR just as much as the MR. 165bhp is more than you would ever need on the road. With the 10k left, I would rather spend it on leaning to ride better.

I totally agree, also what baz said (brandnewbiker). Thankyou for commenting and watching👍🏼

To be totally honest it gets worse with the more miles you do. Ours has done 3000 miles and it’s almost unbearable for a long ride out. We brought it back to bmw on Thursday and they suggested changing the grips for spongy ones… this should not have to happen on a bike that cost £24.5k. We are not sure what to do about it. The video will be out in a couple of weeks. In next weeks video I ride it for about 30 minutes and my fingers go totally numb

@@Mancs1000r Thanks buddy! I do really regret of spending such a crazy money on this bike. I have also a zh2 and Hayabusa and the ride of them is not comparable with this one. Unfortunately here in Canada the customer service is not good and if I could I would definitely return it. 😔

It’s a shame because apart from the buzzing bars it’s a proper mint bike. I think we will be looking into returning it maybe

Thankyou for your comment and for confirming what I was saying in the video, this is why my bike was keeping up with his. Thanks for watching 👍🏼

It is a proper mint bike 😁 Thanks for commenting and watching 👍🏼

S1000R Is a better value bike than the MR. Hands down. I know it's nice to have the top of the range and whatever. But for me, the S1000R is perfect. I got rid of the RR and S1000R for the MR. Wish I would have just sold the RR.

@@Mancs1000r have you looked at the brentune for m1000r ..makes 50hp more 2de 3de gear after tune well worth it..

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I don’t think he would be looking to add a tune to it, it has plenty as standard 😁

Hahaha thankyou 😊 thanks for watching and commenting too 😁👍🏼

Sorry to hear about the robbing c**t, I hate thieves, most of us do! Hopefully you win the M and get back on the roads soon enough 😊👍🏼

Ahh we never though about the delay, good point! Yeah I agree, I need some practice on the standing starts. Thanks for the comment and for watching 😊👍🏼

That's such a good point. Never thought of that. Well said.

That’s right! They look loads better in red ! Thanks again RP 👍🏼😊

I was going to but the guy that done the service was really helpful. I have actually told bmw but asked them not to bo11ock the guy. Thankyou for watching 😊👍🏼

@@Mancs1000r Enjoyed the video. Just goes to show that you can't really use 200 hp till past 4th gear. Just out of interest how much is a run in service on the beemer. I just got fleeced for £260 on my Tuono factory.

Yeah 200hp is a lot for the road. The service for the 600 mile and taking the limiter off was £192

Haha I’ll smoke him on the drag strip and he knows it !!! Thanks for watching 😊👍🏼

The time starts from when you start. The reaction time is just for reference. The drag time starts when you move. So he will have no excuse. Haha

Well thankyou very much for such a positive long message. We just try to have a laugh in the videos, there is enough factual videos about out there about anything you need. As long as we enjoy making this diary and enough people like them we will carry on 😊 Cheers for watching the videos and for the comment 😁👍🏼

Oh and congratulations on the DAS 👍🏼

@@Mancs1000r Thanks brother. Thats what got me about your channel, its not bombarding us with reviews and stats and all that bollocks its just out and out fun, banter and laughs. And between you and me... those little drag races you and Baz do... he always, always cheats ;)

Hahaha my guy !!!!!!!!! That’s what I’m saying!!!

​@humeyUK so I will spoil it for you and J. How it looks like I cheat..... Is actually the delay in the headsets. We just worked it out. After a massive scrap together. Haha. So when he shouts it out. I always think he is cheating. Best way it's lights. But we have none where we live. But you never see me fluffing my starts up unlike J

Hahaha thankyou! It was a laugh that video 👍🏼😁

Hahaha thankyou! It was a laugh that video 👍🏼😁

Hahaha thankyou! It was a laugh that video 👍🏼😁

I agree, on track it would be a massive difference and the M would be more at home. On the road I don’t think it’s worth the extra 10k for the little difference. Thanks for watching and for your comment 😊👍🏼

The S1000R had more torque down low comparing to the 2010-2018 not the K67 with shiftcam. At 7000 the S1000RR is making more torque for sure. Go and compare dynos. Also the S1000RRs has more hp at the wheel than it could. Anti-wheelie is by default at 2 and it works very well. Level 3 like in this video is for rain only... Put the MR on stock dynamic or race and see the huge difference

@@DJSixty No the shiftcam s1000rr / m1000r engine does not provide more torque at 7k than the non shiftcam s1000r, this is what BMW would like you to believe with their shiftcam marketing but it's actually quite the opposite. Check cycleworld website they ran all 3 bikes (S1000RR / M1000R / S1000R) on dyno and you'll see S1000R is delivering more torque hence power between 7 and 10k ish rpm than S1000RR and M1000R. This is why the m1000r is quite irrelevant as a roadster because if you need to go on track you'll be better off with a s1000rr and if you stay on road, you'll be better off with a s1000r. Of course the feeling of possessing such a special bike remains but i wish they would have concentrated their efforts on the mid range power - where it makes sense for a roadster - instead of chasing the numbers... But it seems the marketing eventually managed to enforce those 210 hp... :(

@@resetyoutub the USA version is very limited in torque. Especially in lower gears. I've seen the European version the and S1000R have no change.

I went looking at dynos from UK today again, and I found the BHP UK. I compared 2 videos and it looks that the even UK the S1000R as a slight advantage between 7-9. At 5500 to 7000 there are similar. At 10k rpm the Shiftcam is making at least as many and after that the difference is huge. For sure in the USA the swiftcam engine is weeker and a remap is mandatory. So I was a bit mistaken but not by much, yes if you don't need/want the rush of power after 10k rpm the non shiftcam engine is a good and cheaper alternative.

Great point, if money was not an issue then the M would definitely be first choice.. but it’s for me at the moment 😁 Thankyou for taking time out to leave a comment 😊👍🏼

It’s a mint bike and I’m pretty sure you will love it 👍🏼

Thankyou, glad you found it funny 😁 We have been trying different setups for the audio, I have changed it for the next couple of videos and it’s a lot better, no crackles to be heard. Thankyou for watching and commenting 👍🏼

I think it's because I wear earplugs to ride. So it's like wearing headphones, and it makes you shout. Or Js setup with the speaker next to the mic. But it is annoying.

@@Baz1000r Maybe do a short video on your setup for Audio/Video - will certainly help others

Solid few years of best tyres and plenty of fuel for that 10k and couple of tasty mods on the bike

Your dam right mate

Agreed 👍🏼

I'M the very same. Never wanting that feeling of car pulling up at the lights, and it's a better spec. But after 26 years of driving... I realise it's not worth the worry. I still wish I had kept my S1KR. It's all just willy waving. Next time I will keep my cock and cash in my pants

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Thankyou, it’s much appreciated, thanks for the sub and the comment 😊👍🏼

Wow that is a statement that we will happily take…. The best!!!!! Thankyou, we really appreciate the comment and the view 👍🏼

But it has a ceramic coat!😂

Yeah we agree, it’s definitely not worth the 10k more than the s1000 😊

Hello again 👋🏻 yeah that would be good, 2 m1000r’s and me 😁

@@Mancs1000r first service eventually booked for end of May, got to ease up on using the ol girl for now 🙄

I think that’s out of order that you spend 25k on a bike and they can’t squeeze you in for the running in service.

@@Mancs1000r I agree plus it only takes about an hour… unless they find a problem of course, did wonder about taking it up to the new Motorrat dealer in Exeter 🤔🤔

They are just little keyrings from Amazon with the ring taken off 😊 Thankyou for watching 👍🏼

Link in description too 👍🏼

There is not much difference at all. It's slightly faster and I mean slightly. A good rider on a S1k would beat the average rider on the M. It's all just pub talk or willy waving with the M.... The S1k is much better value bike. In my opinion.

Yeah we agree, the difference is probably not worth 10k. Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏼

I tried the split wire way but ended up putting the cardo ear piece next to the GoPro mic 😁

It’s hard to justify the 15k difference tbh, it’s a lot of money

It's hard to say, as I am only small. So, I still have to lean forward lots. But what doesn't help is I push myself back in the seat all the time. So obviously, I have to then lean for the bars. It's definitely comfier with them.

@@Baz1000r Thanks for your feedback. Do you need to change any cables or hoses to fit the bar risers?

@teej710 No, it's only 30mm, I think. Everything is fine. They are tight when you do it. But I had them on my old bike for a year. Make sure not to damage the fly by wire throttle connection. There is a rubber mount for the clutch cable that just stays on the bars. Very easy to do. The torque setting I couldn't find anywhere, though.

What risers did you use ?

@Ian Greener they were from a German company that I can't remember. Cost about £70 if I remember correctly. I took them off my old bike.

Hahaha listen to both! Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏼

Hi Thanks for watching and commenting 😁 We have changed the audio set up since that video for that exact reason 👍🏼

@@Mancs1000r nice. like the Banter and the bikes. Subscribed.

Thankyou it’s appreciated 😊 and the comment 👍🏼

Ah we will watch it. Thanks for the comment and link 👍🏼😊

@@Mancs1000r No problem. Just ordered mine. Gone for the none carbon version instead. I couldn't justify the extra expense for the bling. Especially after your comments. Cheers

The white one is a better option for the money I think. They are fantastic bikes either way 😁👍🏼

Haha it was close

Haha truth! 😂

We choose to only ride in the dry, preferably 20 degrees + 😁 Thanks for watching and commenting 👍🏼

The dealer is a 140-mile round trip. Why would we get our leathers wet.?

Thankyou for watching again 😊👍🏼

Yeah.. this is a great example how on the road the M may not shine as you cant access 210hp until 3rd gear or is it 4th and by then, at 11000rpm the S1000r is still right there its my guess your over 110 mph anyway.

Yeah your probably right with that 👍🏼 210 is a lot of hp for the road really. Thankyou for your comment and for watching 😊

Yes it seems to be smoother 👍🏼

@@Mancs1000r I wrote my message incomplete, I have an s1000r and I understand that the M1000r is smoother at low revs because of ShiftCam. Magnificent motorcycles. Sorry I'm Spanish and I use a translator. Greetings

That is great that you are Spanish and watching the video 😁 We agree that it is smoother. It’s the engine that was in the old S1000RR. The S1000R is still a brilliant bike and has more than enough power for road use 👍🏼

I think it’s a straight bar

@@Mancs1000r how wide is it? More than 80cm?

It’s about 84-86cm

@@Mancs1000r thx for the info, looking forward for rizoma straight bar for my z800

Sorry I wouldn’t know the answer to this 😊

@@Mancs1000r when you was on the track testing? I’m worried it’s not stable.. I’m close to purchasing this bike..

I’d say it was a lot more stable than the s1000r, it has an adjustable steering damper 👍🏼

Thanks!

Agreed, it is a great looking paint scheme mixed with the carbon. Thanks for your comment 👍🏼

I agree, gsxr are mint bikes 😁👍🏼

Thanks for watching baz !

Hahaha I’m glad someone else noticed 😁

Truth 😁

Yes it’s been taken off

Thanks for your comment and view 👍🏼