@@siddsakkik So is an Ateca FR, but it's not a BMW, (and likely more reliable). I think he should have got an M4 instead. Unless there's a baby on the way too?
As someone looking to buy an M2, I found this really useful, thanks Sam. I was already leaning towards the older M2 anyway, but this has helped reassure me in my decision.
@@denniswild4977 nothing a 3rd party exhaust can't fix ;) plus even an OG M2 you'd want the M Perf exhaust so you're going to want to splash out on an exhaust anyway... I'm bias too because I've got a comp 😂😂
Green Mills this was a replacement vehicle after my first one suffered engine failure so I decided to get out whilst I was still in positive equity and the market seemed good, didn’t want to be stuck with it if I lost my job during COVID
Ben Bradshaw this was actually my second M2 comp first one suffered engine failure, so BMW replaced it for a new one for me, unfortunately I was worried about COVID and how it would affect my career, so I got out of the car in case I lost my job and was stuck with the car, and because it was a brand new one I was in a very good position to settle my finance.
I have an OG M2 (lci 2018) i recently fitted custom upholstered M4 competition seats. Basically M2 CS seats i suppose...😎 i purchased the seats online. They come originally from a BMW M4 competition prototype car, fitted with carbon texture cloth (Testvehicle with only 7000km’s) Very happy with these. They perform better while spirited driving and they look amazing! I sit slightly lower too. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=gptmkzpc44v2 I bought mine new six months before M2 COMP was prestented. It was easy 5-7K more over the OG M2, and in my country road taxes times 4 over OG M2, so 10k plus more EASY....Not worth the money i think. 100K for an M2 CS, YOU MUST BE KIDDING. NOT WORTH IT! 😂
I own a OG M2, that was converted to a Dinan M2 S2 thats pushing 444HP so power isnt my issue.The sound of the Comp is why i will never own a Comp. The fart machine will never sit in my garage no matter how nice its seats are.
YES!!!! well said! Money isn't really a factor... that sound IS!! I own neither, almost purchased both so i have no bias. I pre-ordered a COMP and canceled it when i heard the sound. Also pre-orderd the CS but the dealership owner's son took the only allocation they received! :( Im looking at a M2 mineral gray 6spd with 8k miles on it this weekend... wish me luck! :)
p.s. I am also going with some dinan parts and a tune. only thing i think i will somewhat miss out on is the wheels and seats... but m2 wheels arent bad either.
I have owned a cheap ass M140i for the past 4 years, it's running 455bhp/634nm and kicks the arse of any any standard or stage 1 M2, for £23,000 total spend including the purchase price ! And I have the same seats as the M2 lol ... The M2C is a much better car in every way, and I prefer the exhaust too, but here's a newsflash for you, you can change the exhaust !!! Fit a miltek to the M2C and it sounds amazing, shhhh though I don't want everyone to know.
I like the standard M2 more because its simpler, looks nicer and 13 grand is A LOT of money. I'd definitely take the M2 over the Comp. And I'd also take the 1M over both.
the price difference is so wide because ones a '17 with no or very little factory warranty and the other is a '20 plate with best part of 3 yrs factory warranty. ignore the sh*t info in the video and do your own research. both cars were available in 2018, so a much easier comparison than a 2017 and a 2020. Black M2 '18 plate, dct, 12,700 miles - £37,495 Orange M2 Comp, '68 plate, dct, 14,000 miles - £39,990 both cars on autotrader right now. £2.5k difference is a lot better than £15k right ? and for that you get an extra 45 bhp, nicer wheels, much improved seats, better handling, bigger brakes (bigger still on this one as it has the factory upgrade over the standard already better comp brakes), 5 months extra factory warranty and the only downside is a little bit less noise.
th3b0untyhunter that’s a cracking reply! Want to add that the added power doesn’t really make much a difference since the Comp is heavier too. Only 20kg more than an M4. But the improvement in handling and power delivery makes the comp so much of a better car. So if you’re in the market for a 2018 M2... splash the extra 2.5k and get the comp. Otherwise get an older M2 as it’s just as good a car
The depreciation on the M2C is terrifying. It’ll be £30k next year. I’ve just been offered an M4C, six months old 3k miles that was nearly £80k new for £45k without even haggling. The market for M cars has collapsed and will only get worse in the coming months.
Hey STG thank you for producing great videos as well as your knowledge with cars and your positive attitude i remember meeting you back in January of 2019 when you came to Lorbek Luxury Cars in Melbourne, you really inspired me and many others, so thank you for doing that and coming to the meet, was so fun cruising around Melbourne in a convoy of over 40 Supercars, keep up the amazing work STG!
That was like watching an old top gear segment (minus sliding it round a track and gurning). Compare 2 cars and then at the end saying you wouldn't choose either and go for something else 😂. Great video Sam.
Interesting review Sam - enjoyed and agree with points made. As a Comp owner (previous M2 owner) i moved on based on the Comp being a more compliant daily... But come the odd track day I'd be lying if I said I didn't miss the original just a little.
I wanted a 1M, but too hard to find one. So, I went for the 2019 M2C gently used with 15,000 km on the clock. My 1st M car ever and love everything about it. But now I want em all- M2, M2C and 1M- after this great vid. !!! Had a blast watching this .Thank you !
I have a 2017 M2 LCI, it was an early one registered in late July. Could have gone for an original one, but preferred the updated dash and rear lights of the LCI. As much as I'd love a Comp, it's just not that different to justify the extra cost. 370bhp is more than enough for the road. I tried to find a manual in Long Beach Metallic blue but they are RARE.
2018 LCI in LBB with a manual checking in! :D I had exacly the same thoughts... I came from a 125i (the 218hp inline 6 NA one) and could only testdrive the M2 on a rainy day. It tried to kill me twice that drive... That was what sold me. :)
You really don’t want 500+bhp in an M2 though do you, that’s a mess. Maybe an akrapovic would help fix the noise? But you’re right, M3 and M4 with after market exhausts sound like they’re farting. I’d go manual M2 facelift with akrapovic and a gentle Litchfield tune 💪💪💪
Vrsf Dow pipe and Active Autoworks midpipe will solve all of the sound issues and then you can choose whichever axle back you fancy, stock will do as well.
The M2C is a better car in every way than the M2. Engine, suspension, interior, looks. The only thing which matters is if you can afford to buy a better car or not. You can keep the 1M thanks, it's a fugly parts bin special, I didn't jump on the hype train for that like the fangirls.
The 1M isn't really 'a few more quid a month' as most buyers of either M2 will be financed via PCP which will not be available on a 61 plate 1M making it a LOT more per month on HP.
WhalleyRangeMassively better by many measurements, twin turbo so responds better, got more tuning capacity, closed deck block, better cooling and a better oil system.
Peer Niemann agreed the N55 only sounds better as no OPF and single turbo, the S55 is piped as a pair of 3 cylinders, so the sound could be better. But all round on every measure the S55 is better
n55 is better daily driver than s55. Who wants a 500-600 hp unless you are in the drag strip or a professional driver. I daily a 450 hp evo and it annoys me.
one of the interesting points i saw someone make, who drove all 3 version of this car is that as you go from M2 > M2C > M2CS , the more and more COMFORTABLE the drive gets in the car, the more it gets to be suitable as a daily driver, which is the opposite of what BMW was trying to achieve.... lol.... these are the repercussions of when you let bean-counters make the final decisions on your business strategy smh
As much as I love seeing you kicking the head in of these new expensive cars, i feel that a good portion of your viewers wont be considering a ferrari or a new porche for a few years at least. Would you consider maybe a ‘less than 10 grand’ series and drive some older, more depreciated cars and let people know what you think is a good deal for those who arent looking at something new
Thanks Sam this is a really good video and comparison. I’ve got an m2 LCI and I feel that the tech (it has the dials and newer nav from the comp) versus fun factor is just spot on. I like the 1M but I feel that the step backwards in tech would be a bit much, plus the m2 was a partsbin special like the 1M so that’s why it feels more like it than the comp, which I imagine is closer to the M4 in feel. Great vid though. Thanks
No need to waste money on an Akra dude. Get a used M Performance exhaust for less! Check out my latest video for a sound clip and tell me that doesn't sound great!
I bought a 2018 M2 as the M2 Competition was being introduced. My car was optioned with a package that added alcantara trip, the BMW alcantara performance parts wheel and some other items. I decided it was what I wanted, a simple car without so many of the things on the comp. And as you say, the performance if about the same. With this being at the end of the model run, I also got a nice discount. A very enjoyable car to drive when not using my 2019 330xi. I traded it earlier this year for a 991.2 Carrera.
Great video 👍. A few points, I own a 2016 M2 and have retrofitted the LCI/M2C dials, they are easier to see in cloudy weather and are still analogue they are not actually digital, I too love analogue. I have also had the carbon and aluminium strut brace from the M4/M3/M2C retrofitted. This alone made a significant handling difference more to the chassis and suspension than the steering. The part numbers of the suspension between the M2 and M2C is confirmed as the same. All changes noted are due to the brace and yeh the car is so much more compliant and precise with it. The N55 with a sports cat such as I have sounds exotic and thuggish at the same time it's really brilliant. The M2C is more vacuum cleaner like in delivery. it is a really fun car it makes you work for the drive and grin like an idiot. I'd have the seats in the M2C though!
Here’s my 2018 LCI OG M2 with M2 CS style seats. instagram.com/p/CC0xaP2HbaO/?igshid=1ni5wkrhx1ns8 I like them more then OG ones. Much better support and they look amazing
@@Franzino all in just over a grand. And I got the CF and aluminium brace off eBay for £360, incredibly low price off a breaker. Don't expect to find that deal again. Big thread on bimmerpost forum's about the brace
Peter Wood, there are plenty of sets on eBay, at least 6 month’s ago when i was looking. I even came across a complete M2 COMP interior, red stitching...Just google BMW F82 interior for sale. Select images and scroll away...some pictures will direct you to eBay, Some from crashed car salvagers, others like mine, prototype car interiors can mainly be found with used carparts dealers on eBay. More often than not though they are complete interiors and for the better part lefthanded drive items. COMP spec seats are rare though. As are righthanded drive items. I bought mine from an independent BMW specialist in Holland. He even retrofitted the seatheating, since mine were cloth wrapped seats. He also preinstalled the airbags. I swapped/sent him my OG airbags. All F serie airbags are exchangeable, same partnumber. There are some good threads on Bimmerpost on this topic. Here’s a link from what i posted on Bimmerpost. www.bimmerpost.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25570472 This was a supprisingly easy job. Just read the threads on the forums. No coding required. Only need basic skills, take your time. Always disconnect the battery when working on airbag equipped items. Use your OG electric seatmodules if you want the electric functions to work. It’s plug and play basically. Manual seats are a great deal cheaper... if you want the illuminated seatlogo’s to lighten up then you’ll need to install some extra wiring and I believe also coding. I didn’t do so, It doesn’t bother me. You can swap all safety equipment, airbags, seatbelt tensioners from OG items to the donor seats.
A good comparison between the standard M2 and M2 Competition. I can now see why that Paul ended up going with the M2 Comp. If I had the money and was choosing between the two, it would be the standard M2 for me. The sound of the exhaust and price would be my reasons.
OG M2 is the way to go.. the extra 45 hp on this car is really not needed... M2C is how BMW tried to be cute and creative to ask you to pay more.. glad that I got my OG M2 before M2C came out... didn’t feel like spending an extra $5k for it
I feel like I am the only one left with that opinion, but.... I dislike the Competition because of the kidney shape and the octagon/hexagon drls vs. the Standard M2.. So a Competition with the Standard front would be nice.
Still don't get the facination with digital screens...for me they are a huge off put...like staring at a computer screen who wants that in a car it's bad for your eyes and tiring Analogue All they way
Milage would be a deciding factor. Would I buy a 1M with an extra 40k miles for similar money over the M2s? Absolutely not. As for the M2/M2C.......it comes down to money. If you want an M2 on a budget it's the OG, but if you can afford it, the M2C is undoubtedly the much better car......it's newer, looks better, goes better, handles better, steering is better, has much better interior, has the M engine, revvs higher......and at those higher revvs it sounds awesome. This is why it is more expensive.
"it doesn't squirm about" Sounds boring, I love a bit of surprise death. Need to save up for a TVR instead. Or just anything with the correct number of pedals
they are both standard versions. it was a poor choice of name tbh, all the other comp versions of M cars were built and sold alongside the "lesser" version but the M2C is simply the phase 2 and relaced the original totally.
Erm..... M4 diff, suspension, axles (hence wide track), S55 engine internals, cooling, gearbox.... I’m sure there’s other stuff. So not just a glorified m235i (btw you could say the same about the 1M-135i) but I guess you don’t! So yea bit of a difference.
Maximoosh the N55 in the M2 is a lot different to let’s say a 135i there is a vid on RU-vid talking all about it being reinforced and what m4 parts were used
A real genius in our midst. There are no defining parameters making a motor an M motor. The N54 is a modified motor in the 1M, so you've said that's not an M car then? An engine just makes power I don't care how it does it as long as it does it well, reliably and sounds good.
The Comp sounds awful. I think an M2 will replace my M140i, I think I’ll be going for the OG because it’s a load cheaper and sounds much better. I can chuck in some nice seats if the original bother me. I don’t like the Comp wheels either.
The comp sounds better than the M2 to me, but it's very easy to shove a miltek system on and then the M2C sounds unreal. Wish I could afford one. I also own an M140i, and there's no way I put 15 grand into upgrading to an OG M2, because if I put 15 grand into my M140i it would be a much better car than the M2. It's been running 455bhp/634nm reliably for the past 4 years, and kicking the arse of most standard cars under £100k, so if I decided to upgrade I think a loan would be in order to make the step up to a really much better car like the M2C, as the M2 just isn't that much better.
@@DjNikGnashers nothing makes great S55 sound good to my ears; it’s just noise. A Miltech just makes it louder. Not a fan of the noise at all. The N55 sounds great to my ears. There’s more to M cars than raw power in my opinion / experience and saying that a modded M140i will be better isn’t fair because a modded M2 will be better again plus they look loads better than the 1 series. I had an M140i; amazing engine and gearbox but awful chassis.
@@samcourt6228 Each to their own, noise preference is subjective to the listener. I think the pre OPF B58 sounds better than the N55 or S55 lol. I understand what you're saying, but you're completely missing the point. Yes of course a modded M2 will handle better than a modded M140i. But it will cost 2 to 3 times the price. My point was, the 15 grand difference between a standard M140i and a standard M2 OG ok, spend that on the M140i putting M3 control arms and top spec dampers, decent springs, a complete polybush setup, an LSD, and decent brakes, and you will still have 5 grand left for engine mods. The finished M140i destroys standard M2's on a track, as proven by a lad in scotland who's M140i he calls the hulk (because it has a green wrap on it, on youtube). His clips show his M140i creaming almost everything on track, and it's only 450bhp. Yes if you modded the M2 with the same it would ultimately be better because it has a wider track and wider tyres, but then your taking the spend way above what an M140i with 15 grand of mods would cost. NOW do you see my point ? Any car can be the ultimate trackday toy with enough money spent on it, but pound for pound a modded M140i will cream a standard OG M2 on a track, for THE SAME MONEY.
M2 is not more fun. M2 is more ragged, too inclined for the rear to snap out M2C is a lot better handling. poorer handling doesnt mean a car is more fun. noise is the ONLY thing a non Comp does better - and thats down to EU regs not any fault of BMW ive driven multiple versions of both cars for a lot more than a "quick round the block near Gravelwood"
@@th3b0untyhunter it's not better handling it just more liniear power and less wheel spin in low rpm range because of that , both this cars handle similar they have exactly same suspension, m2c is little more front heavy couse of s55 weight. Just can't agree it's a better handling car.
Really enjoyed this. Love comparison videos of more affordable cars. Almost a classic Top Gear conclusion where you've driven two cars but then recommend one that wasn't even in the video 😄👍🏻 Love it.
I have the old one and think that the values will hold better due to them only being manufactured for a couple of years. Get yourself a grey one which seem harder to come by. I love the twitchy nature and it takes a very heavy right foot to get it to break in the dry.
When you said 32 grand for a 2017 M2 I was freaking out thinking my car lost half its value to depreciation, i didn't realize you weren't using USD units lol
Original M2 for me. Better looking (ie "slightly" more aggressive front bumper, non lci rear lights look better in my opinion) much better sounding too, way better wheels than the competition, only thing I would pick from the competition over the original are the seats.
The only color i like on the M2 is the Mineral grey and this was only on the original M2. Plus the sound was enough to make me cancel my competition order when i heard it. (actually was embarrassed of the sound during a test drive later) Sales man told me to "hit it" and i looked around and said "not until we are away from this stop light" :( Im looking at a 2017 mineral gray 6spd this weekend!!!!!!!!!!!
Superb content as Always Sam 🙂👍🏻 If i could have one, it would be the Comp, Although for an 'Everyday' car, it would be the 340 sport 😉👍🏻 Keep up the great work on this and behind the glass 👍🏻 All the best, Mark 👍🏻
@@jim8462 that's fair enough. I like the arches too but it wouldn't be a deal breaker for me. An M240i with the right mods will be considerably cheaper than even an original M2 (let alone an M2C) and can be 99.9% of the car to drive.
Great video Sam! I have a friend who has just bought an M2 comp to upgrade from his 1M- he regularly drives at Nordshleife. He says the the M2 comp isn’t that much better than his 1M, certainly more clinical. Interestingly, he reckons that up to 100mph the M2 comp is almost equal to his Porsche GT3.
I’m a year late,, but that’s interesting, the M2 Comp being almost equal to the GT3 is quite compliment, because the new 992 GT3 is killing it and is just an insane machine. So to say that it makes you wonder
I had to laugh. You ended up talking shop on prices and I just picked up a one owner from new, completely original and undamaged - with full BMW service history - OG M2 for 13,000. Yep... you read that right. 13k. I don't need an M2C and if I did, I wouldn't have bought the M2 in the first place. Might actually have been the cheapest M2 purchase in this condition in the world!
Jasper The standard M2 doesn’t sound divine either, if you want sound you have to go for E92 M3, otherwise M2C for performance, normal M2 is always just a compromise
Regular M2 with full coilover set up, M2 Comp sport seats and some lightweight M Performance parts over M2 Comp, not like M2 Comp come out the factory flawless, still need some modding for it to ride well and handle well Just got to the end, that 1M is the ideal choice
Great video. Both amazing cars, but different mustard. I'd take the M2 Comp if I had the pennies, but I don't so if you buy the M2 and want it faster, just take it to Motech or Birds performance. The 1M is just one of the best cars ever made.
Mine has been running 455bhp/634nm reliably for the past 4 years, and stands me at £23k lol ... Yes it's not as pretty as an M2 or M2C, yes it doesn't handle as well standard, but even as it is now it's been kicking the arses of most things under £100k quite easily. If I put the difference between the value of the M140i and OG M2 (lets say 15 grand) into mine, it would be an absolute weapon which destroys any standard M car, RS audi, etc, they really are the unsung hero's of BMW at the moment.
I'm so glad you pointed out that BMW's doesn't update their interiors as I have always thought that. I swear the interior designers only use two shapes the rectangle and circle on the interior of all BMW cars.
Funny how an M car has turned into the standard car due to the M competition hahahaha Edit: and the change in focus from BMW towards GT cars instead of Sport cars
Stop Sam, they are the same car, the Comp just has a legit 2 year factory upgrade. You sound like you’re comparing the Comp to a Cayman… 55kg’s. Lol….ya got a huge engine and brake upgrade! Full stop! Makes absolutely no sense buying the older car, with a lesser engine (including less stout, reliable), lesser brakes, 2+ more years use, depreciation, because…..of the sound?! Be honest, it’s about the money, because you can always upgrade the exhaust in the comp if the sound is an issue (goofy reasoning). The Comp is a serious upgrade in all around performance and capability to tune reliably. OG owners, your opinion is so obviously heavily biased.🍺
Not biased paying 10k less for a lighter car that can make comp power with a simple tune/exhaust, and indeed sounds better. The s55 is good on the track or for tuning beyond 500 hp. Sounds like you have buyers remorse that you couldn’t swing a CS.
