BMW M4 Competition VS Lexus RCF Fuji Edition! What’s The Better $85,000 Sportscar? 

It's a cool option with the V8!

And you would be smoked by all the g82s....

until you met a bolt on G82.

@@IdontKnow-fd6rp that’s funny asf … bmw are slow ass POs . They were late to the game and expect to win ? Have you read bmw for dummies 101 ? Bmw aren’t made to go fast . I’ve own bmw all my life and I knew that . They’re junk

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I would disagree. You can have a sportscar that's also a great "GT" car.. Not sure how a car race depicts driving these cars on a daily basis, but glad you enjoyed that experience. To me, the BMW is way more raw feeling, but everyone will have a different view.

​@@BrosFOURRSpeed Disagree on my end also due to some well-known misses here. Sports cars tend to focus primarily on performance, while Grand Tourers focus on both performance and luxury. But while GT cars have specific characteristics, “sports car” is a much broader term that can encompass wildly disparate vehicles. These cars are designated as a GT type cars not a sports cars. Sports cars are typically lighter cars no Luxury focus attributes; however the M4 and RCF have never been classified as sports cars from their makers. You wouldn't call a M4 or a RCF a sports car along with a Lotus Evora. BMW calls the M4 a GT , Lexus calls the RCF a GT or Radical Coupe ( Like BMW doing their own SAV nomenclature LOL ) but never a sports car. The focus on Luxury and performance is the gap here. In contrast to how Porsche specifically on certain models say sports cars etc. Lexus and Toyota does this also; ie . Toyota calls the 86 a sports car the GR Supra a sports car etc.The M4 and RCF are Grand Touring performance cars. For the comment on how the race depicts driving experience. Well you and I where at Sebing right thats how you saw this car as we all did. What im alluding to is ownership experience when buying a Lexus Performance product as compared to BMW. When you buy a Lexus performance car you can apply for Lexus hospitality and experience the race better than any BMW owner could experience it because they dont offer their owners much of any hospitality at IMSA races ( I was at the BMW Rolex 24 hospitality FYI it doesnt compare ) . I know I was a prior M car owner. Having both the NA V8 will always feel more raw than a Turbo i6 I never felt like a F or a G series BMW was more raw in the sense of mechanical rawness I never heard of that from a M car owner. More Powerful yes balance in handling I would agree, but raw I mean you barely hear the engine its all exhaust lol. With the RCF it's all intake and engine nearly zero exhaust sound inside stock. Owning both experince was quite contrasting although both excellent. I would always say a V8 will always sound more raw and more mechanical than an i6 that doesnt mean it's faster or better but turbo cars are just all exhaust sounds nothing mechanical happening there although the ZF has the common thump sound instead of the RCFs more raw sounding fuel cut AISIN trans. M4s are more refined and currently not more raw in my view. Revving to fuel cut in a M4 is not a very rewarding experience but in a RCF with that V8 you want to do it all the time! Kudos

I have an F97 X3M and and and a 22 RCF so I get to enjoy the contrast. Former E92 ZCP ///M owner as well. I always have at least (1) Bimmer in the stable- currently on 19th Bimmer since my first E36 🙂

Alot of misses on this review indeed but hes a great RU-vidr just missing out on some key facts with these cars. Also on the track a RCF TE and a M4 post similar times their sub 2 cars on many tracks so not left for dead with the RWD and Manual versions. STOCK. The only M4 that would leave it left for dead is a X-Drive and of course CSL variant. Otherwise on a road course a RWD M4 non-comp will post similar times frame as a TE RCF. It's not a quantum leap anymore actually as the first RCFs due to weight. We ran M4s RWD with my RCF TE and there were very similar. The manuals are nearly identical times. Now the X-drive variant off the line is brutal lol. The CSL quite frankly a muscle car lol.

A 2JZ engine supercharged won’t beat an M4, it’s an old engine that needs a lot of work to do that. Cool back then, but ancient as far as technology goes.

haha we figured we'd try a bit different edit ;)

Yeah good points. However BMW is pretty reliable these days. In the top 10 especially now that Toyota owns a part of them

I’d rather have the M4!, way more tuning potential and a bigger following for that.

Fun cars!

Yeah the lc500 I had for a few months was amazing . Much better than the rcf I test drove

M4 is amazing! Those LC cars are pretty cool too!

That’s why the Lexus hold its value better .

@@chuemoua6834 Actually the G80 M3/M4 holds better value than the RCF. M cars still go for MSRP used. RCF goes for a lot less

@@BrosFOURRSpeed no bmw never hold a better value than any Lexus ..trust me . Don’t play game with that m cars still holds msrp .. that’s got to be the biggest joke I’ve ever heard . Chill out ok my younger bro got the pig nose m3 comp in orange . Do you see the isf vs m4 and m3 ? The first gen isf is still in the 30 to 40k while the m are around mid 20s .. same year

To you, I would stress. To people like myself who had M cars, this was a refreshing unique car that one falls in love with. Just a special car much as I loved the E92 M4 GTS. I love this special edition. The LC500 is nice but 400lbs heavier and honestly sadly overheats at the track just not poised for that beating like this car is and I didn't quite enjoy that experience at all. To be honest to ME, this car is a Jem and a bargain price-wise coming from M cars. Very special indeed.

Seems like a toss up then

@@BrosFOURRSpeed ok

Considering how much the brakes are on that thing. No. I'm good.

Keep in mind the M4 is a better car. The normal RCF is about $50k. This trim is priced with the M4. However the R35 GTR is more on par with the true performance competitor with the M4

Probably the most ridiculous post here. So because the car doesn’t sell and because of an unrelated car, that puts the RCF in a different league? A complete joke.

Keep in mind tho, you can get genuine leather in the BMW. Fake leather is still a lesser material. Yes the Lexus is very nice as we said. But there are more plastics inside and there is a difference in the materials in these cars. In general the RCF is a $50k car, so at that price point they both make great sense for their price. But this special edition is going for a much higher price then your typical used RCF and is the same price of this M4. At the same price you really need to want the special edition to forgo the better materials, tech and performance from the BMW. At a normal trim RCF for $50k, its a great buy.

In general the RCF Msrp is as low as 68k new and can get used around 40k..I guess you have some points with the Fuji edition with the price point…. Standard RCF has the option for genuine leather by the way and yes at 40-50k it’s a great buy…you still showed u are a bmw fan boy tho lol

Well the M4 speaks for itself. I was never a BMW fan until these came out. The car is amazing and there is no car at this price point and practicality level that offers more. I review cars full time and I've driven everything. The car M car owns this segment. RCF normal trim tho is a cool way to go to stay around $50k tho

I'd just get one used at that point and do mods that'd do circles around the fuji.

yeah the RCF is certainly some fun! Can't see spending the money on the special edition when normal ones are way cheaper

Yup, it was in sport + the whole video.. you won’t be able to see 100ms difference on camera anyway.

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I am just saying something was off when you did a short burst of acceleration as the transmission is way faster than what it was in that lilttle segment. My videos are proof of that. I can tell just by looking at the video that it does not match what I have in my RCF. My videos also show a distinct difference. It is instantaneous. Either the transmission was not fully warmed up (it takes about 20 minutes or so for the transmission to come out of limp mode) or it was not in SPORT+ mode.

@@2ZZGE100 we were in sport + and sport a + so not sure what else to tell you..

@@BrosFOURRSpeed You can take it for what its worth. You can check out some of my recent videos and see the difference. I have owned mine for 7+ years so I can tell easily there was a difference and there is no denying it. I am just trying to make sense of why? It could be either the mode or that the transmission was not warmed up as it takes up to 20 minutes for it to come out of limp mode. You will see how it behaves very different than how it did in that short sprint. Also, $40K buys a very early model RCF with high mileage and a lot of times questionable maintenance records including accidents in many cases. Not exactly comparison with a mint condition, low mileage and really good Maintenace. I would not recommend it unless someone really wants the car on a budget, but then maintenance cost is another thing. The RCF in any variant was really a competitor for the F-series M3 or M4 so the G-series is one generation newer. The RCF TE lap time of Nürburgring in the 7:40s is in-line with the F-series M3 or M4 CS.

Alot of misses in this review indeed , difference between owning one and reviewing one. This is why when I Turo car a chime in with owners first to kinda understand its characteristics.

Yeah the M4 is a beast!

I wish! But M4 would have smoked it

Yeah M4 is a beast!

Yeah I wish Lexus used more real materials

Yeah the Lexus certainly will be a very long term car. However most buyers of new cars like these don't keep them past 50k miles

RCF is some fun! M4 may grow on you. It grew on us and we love these cars!

Certain bmw models hold value very well. Not all Lexus models do either.

I’d disagree..

Yeah we mentioned that in the end of the video. For $50k you can get a nice RCF. However these new M3/4 cars are pretty solid. I don't see them costing a lot to own the first 100k miles. Certainly a big step un in car tho

Although this is kinda based on your money situation. To a person that has it the special editions offer better value to them since value is not tied to money issues and just wanting the best of self preference. When you sell a TE or a CSL the person doesnt care about worth it or think it terms of discounts....they want a unique experience and thats what they get spending being unbothered by money at that level.

@@RandenMontalvo I wouldn’t agree with that, but people will certainly buy what they want and will enjoy. I know millionaires who would buy special cars that actually increase in value. Just because they have money, doesn’t mean they want to blow it.

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I’m confused at “blowing money” totally disagree at this level much like myself people are less concerned with discounts or value prop and more focused on what they want and the experience. These cars are not collectors items even the CSL depreciates spectacularly it’s not a 3.0 CSL. The point is at this level price is less a issue and more a client that wants a unique experience that’s why a person spends 15k more on carbons on a M4CP build that’s why you pay more for this car with Carbons on a RCF TE etc. I never once the thought to myself , I can get a LS swap in a Miata and save money. lol buyers at this range tend to buy based on pure user preference not savings. All of these cars at this segment are liabilities not investments as none appreciate to any degree German or Japanese specifically this GT segment. The M4 falls off a cliff resale wise and the RCF TE hold better value than M4CPs but at the end of the day these GTs demo are not geared to penny pinchers or folks that say I can get a 2015 M4/RCF there for folks that want the best that aren’t concerned with the price quite frankly that appreciate the offering. It’s also cheaper than the M4 building a M4CP with carbons is 120k+ depending on options. I chose this because of the experience solely which is just so much raw then I’m used to with the Germans sans M4GTS. You can’t go wrong with either car but price at this level is just not an issue for a prospective buyer wanting limited editions models; these aren’t marketed to save a driver money. Much like the CSL the TE offerings are for those who simply want the best from the manufacture model.

BMW’s are reliable though, I own one and zero issues. I wouldn’t say a fan boy, just like what they have to offer..

Yeah we like it better. Be hard to justify the special edition RCF for M4 money

lol not everyones taste. But over the M4 is much more fun to drive

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I"m sure it is. I had a 325C some years ago. Fun, fun car....until it became a 'go to the shop a lot' car. With that, lease the German marque, buy the Lexus. ;-)

@@davidpavlich8939 depends on what year that was. Currently own a bmw and zero issues.

@@BrosFOURRSpeed I can only go by my German car experience, the other, a VW. However, I am much more confident in the reliability of a Lexus. GS350 owner.

That’s exactly what we said!!!! We said you can find a USED ONE for the $50K price range.. You might want to listen better lol..we did the research and stated factual information.

Id go with the bmw. I own one as well, great cars.