BMW m57 standalone wiring for dde 5 

thank you mate.good luck with swap.and im just a msg away if im needed for anything else you get stuck on i have notifications for this so will reply instantly.depending on time obviously as its 12pm here but probably 8pm at you lol 😂 ill do my best

mint.however you will need to get abs speed signal delete on ecu.itl rev out at 3k instead of 4 until this is done so you know buddy

​​@@xyoungyxthanks for the heads up. Just did some snooping, seems a common issue for swaps. Funny it's the first time i'm hearing of it.

@@miked5789 most bmws when abs light is on it takes 1000rpm from the engine limiter.this definitely needs done but the 1st m57 isn’t interested in this atall all older e36 e46 if they rev out to 6500 the limiter when abs light is on is 5500 it’s stupid if ur abs light is on u could still do 130mph no problem 😂

link in description for the diagram buddy

no but om is rare and expensive m57 is cheaper and almost as good om is king diesel m57 is number 2 but also easier to swap-cheaper and readily available

@@xyoungyx Thanks for that, M57 it is.

yes they run this ecu too

my one doesn’t have that because euro 3 but euro 4 has it i would keep them but have the cat mapped out

@@xyoungyx can you do that or do I need the software to do it myself as I used to do all my vag stuff many moons ago

@@graham-martin5847 yes i can do it mate.is it 204 euro 4?? as in electric actuator?

@@xyoungyx nee idea it's an 05 X5 219 brake facelift model

@@graham-martin5847 not electric actuator then mate this one doesn’t have sensor in the exhaust only euro 4 does

really it doesn’t need the clutch switch input or brake input to run.can be ran without any these wires no problem and will run.sooo i would be looking at the work you just done to make sure there is nothing else wrong you only need clutch and brake switch to keep the cruise control working properly

thank you mate.if the engine is euro 4 the oil light is done by can to fix bypass the ecu with the oil pressure sensor to the clocks job done

@@xyoungyx i thought euro 4 was the one with electronic actuator? Mine is vacuum

@@N_iko vacuum should work then as it does in the video this is why i wired up e36 clocks with mine after finishing my mates one that was euro 4 and no oil light i had to wire up the oil light myself outside of the ecu so only the clocks seen it

watch my m57 e36 video it covers that pin 16 constant live.pin one is switched live thats optional and not needed 4&5 chassis earth pin 7 is obd white purple to obd wire on ecu which is white purple

@@xyoungyxwill do thank you👍

ur welcome mate

Great to hear! i cant let anyone justify that loom money mate.also the loom is that long it goes away inside the car.u need to take most of them back out to the body plug except pedal and obd port.many more videos to come.gona document my full 204 into a compact plus wiring

Brilliant info pal -- best engine to do it with as well-- fair play , and keep us m57 fans enlightened !!

@@martinmaxwell2004 yeh im good with these bmws man.always helping people on facebook get bmws running thought i would put all the information here and try kickstarting this channel again thanks alot man happy new year 🥳

Every m57 fan owes u so much.please keep this channel going --its brill pal.

@@martinmaxwell2004 thank you mate i have one to put up monday showing how to fit m57 to e36 the dde4 one then i have a dde5 to fit to my own car so thats the next video coming thanks for the kind words

thank you mate.i live bmw every day.just trying to boost my channel a bit and share my own knowledge with people.plenty more to come.stuck on anything just ask mate

whats it for?

@@xyoungyx well i have a bmw e31 which is petrol automatic but would like to fit an m57 in it. I might have to change it to manual gearbox to get things to work but not sure as yet.

m57 ews delete video mate go to videos and scroll down cant miss it

@@xyoungyx ok cheers I've got the two plug X5 ECU busy putting windows 10 on lappy

yes you would buddy.ive never done that before tho i like a manual 😂 but you have to keep shifter ect and wiring for that it probably didn’t start because it couldn’t see that it was in park or neutral

@@xyoungyx I get ya I will figure it out as I know nothing about BMW even the job of getting the throttle pedal out was a mission when you simply don't know I am just dismantling everything gonna pull the pedal wires out the harness today and figure out the score with auto I've got dodgy knees and my defender clutch is too heavy so converting it to auto old man lol

@@xyoungyx been going through the harness and there are a lot of colours not matching up the three main switched lives on the plug are red and green which i know will still be switched lives can wires are correct too but not much else is there much difffrence from a 05 plate facelift x 5 auto i know i will just work from the pin numbers but was curious as i am still picking the harness to bits to get everything out of it cheers graham

no the reverse is coverd on this green white is switched power and when reverse is met it puts that 12v up blue yellow and triggers reverse relay inside car its on the side plug next to ecu but not ecu if its a manual anyway

@@xyoungyx thank you I will be using the bmw automatic..

im sure this runs through the auto box wiring i’ll look into it for you

@@xyoungyx thank you. It’s very helpful you are putting this out there. Most think bmw and thing that’s to complicated. Maybe in the newer stuff but this older stuff seems fairly simple..

@@EngineeredToDesign bmw are really easy most other people would rather take your money.i just want to try help out and get my youtube more noticed ect

bonnybridge mate

Check description .links to google drive for this stuff mate

yes.de pin the chassis part of the ecu plug and just keep whatever is needed rpm/oil ect

@@xyoungyx Thanks man Iam working my way in my swap for my nissan patrol

@@MrBaloona nice mate.good luck with the build

pin 53 on ecu.if you read my description for video there is a link to google docs with all the information mate

easy when you know how mate enjoy ☺️

immo delete

use the pin out here in this video and if you watch a bit of my m57 e36 video itl show you the e36 pin out.fuel mpg won’t work as its done via can.battery light wont work.it can be done but you need to tap into another wire thats on the opposite ecu plug that plugs away from the car

mix match cut weld will be shown in next video mate

@@xyoungyx spot on pal !!!

i tryd to make it work on my 1jz as i use this alternator on that engine.pretty sure its done via can.really not fussy about it.it works fine on the 184 dde4 engine though

if there is enough demand for it ill do it mate

​@@xyoungyxdo it please

Thanks!

they would just be fuses for anything else that turns on when the main relay is woke up.like the power to fuel pump relay ect

did you swap the key/ews and ecu from the 3.0?

@xyoungyx no I have had the ecu immobiliser deleted and linked to my key and ews so I get cranking but no fuel pressure above 160 bar with sensor on back of r90 pump unplugged but plugged in I get about 6 bar if I'm lucky not sur if sensor issue or the immobiliser hasn't been deleted properly or if knackered lol the car I swapped from was already immobiliser deleted but with a chip as ews and key detector was disconnected and jumped

@@phillipgladwell6320 if it’s ews deleted i don’t see why you are trying to link it to the key mate however if the ecu has an emulator on it instead of actual ews delete in software then there prone to fail do you know if it has that???? is it euro 3 or 4 engine? 3 is vacuum turbo 4 is electric actuator turbo easiest way to tell

@xyoungyx it's a vacuum turbo hybrid have r90 fuel pump 535d injectors mapped to 380hp and when I put ecu in car it would crank over so I linked the ecu with ews no problem all match so car no cranks but fails to start looked in to all sensors but still stopping fuel pressure so not sure if this is a ews issue but if deleted then no problem as cranks with ews disconnected and jumped but no start

Also yes before it had a chip inside because I tried to clone the ecu because of tamper fault but was saying not compatible and no memory left so had a mate take ecu away and he said he deleted immobiliser with software v2 or something but this has let me link everything up and engine to crank but no start so before it was immobiliser off we cut the chip out so don't have no more

thanks mate constant 12v switched 12v 2 earths and the obd wire some run rpm wire to but its not a must

thank you mate.i only wired up the clocks to see if oil light and battery light wer gona work.on 184m57 it all works on euro 3 204 engine the battery light is done through can but oil light works on euro 4 204 engine battery and oil are can so none work this means connecting oil light up urself later meaning it gets messes at the end when u realise its not working lol.this is why i wired the dash.so ill run a volt meter to see battery charging.but my oil light works as is.the black car at the end is euro 4 so the oil was done after the car was finished.so this is why i took clocks to my new engine

well unfortunately my wiring was already done but i still managed to show the simplicity of it between what i had in the bay and another engine on the floor the only new part to me was the obd port but im very pleased that this all works on one no problem.that part felt like a win lol

Also just subbed.

thank you mate.this is what i do for a job.break bmws and build drift cars.like a tidy swap done right.this is why im busy lol

e46 engine buddy its 2 peice uj type in the middle

yes mate it’s like 6 extra wires my 1st 330d was ews need ecu-key and ews box to match the ews box needs a switched live-constant live.earth.2 wires for antenna from the barrel and the ews wire from ews box to ecu easy enough to do

@@xyoungyx much like how I thought it was then! I saved the box with the plug and the transponder ring and the wire back to the ecu, I’ll see how I get on! Thank you for your reply

@@jamiemoore8644 no problem mate u can find ews pin out on google easy enough.and only need the wires mentioned

its wild lol my own one is wild but that one takes the biscuit lol.hence why ive sold my 184 and i now have a 204 6 speed for my own car.thats the one on floor running everything done ready to put in the hole

i do not have this diagram mate sorry cant be that hard to find on google or bmw pages

I have tried but haven’t found one for it what bmw page do you use

@@Bmw-v6v i just scour google for them mate.ill be honest they’re hard to find

it can stay as is for now mate.im coming from a 184 5 speed to that engine on floor so ill already be better off.one step at a time

@@xyoungyx yeah you will I bought a e39 530d to stick the engine In my defender but then worked out I could use a 204 so bought a e46 😂. Can you do a test drive in the e36 204 compact please? Looks like a factory conversion!

i will make a separate video on this car alone later.and my own when i go 204.all my jobs are finished like that mate.tidy or dont touch it.did you watch my engine bay detail video??? go see.how its done

very welcome mate.they are so straightforward when you understand it a bit more

in you come mate.very welcome thank you

thanks mate no i dont do that.i would build for myself but wont do for a job prefer just to throw engines about mate

@@xyoungyx cool no sweat I have the 335d out the lci E92 twin turbo it’s been overfilled with oil and knocking its pan in I don’t suppose you know any1 local and decent enough who does rebuilds

@@marctT4887 engine room in glasgow? its probably gona need a crank too by sound of it

@@xyoungyx I’ll check them out appreciated

for putting it into what mate???

@@xyoungyx i can't find pin information for instrument cluster. I swap into patrol but im making custom dashboard and wanna put e46 dashboard, so i want to use only rpm, oil lamp, engine coolant cloack and light's.

@@tihomirtonchev7223 i don’t know the pin out for e46 clocks i do know what the e36 clocks do and they work fine with m57 if u would rather go that way they are very similar ive never tryd to wire 46 clocks

With the e36 clock does everything work? Speedo and fuel and water temp?

yeah that would need some can modules kepd to run the box.u would also need to get a speed signal input for it aswell so it can see speed for auto box to work properly

@@xyoungyx we are blessed here to have both manual and auto. The auto is crazy fast even though it's stock with dpf. The manual though remapped and no dpf somehow is the same speed! Silky smooth changes too from the auto. Really need to get my hands on a crashed 353. Hehe

I've been reading some stuff off a guy who's done it said the speed sensor is inside the box so no need for external one Paul barker I think is his name off top of my head he's in Australia but he's welch

@@graham-martin5847 thanks for the info. I am having a hard time trying to buy a Suzuki SJ however.

@@graham-martin5847 if its a e46 engine then the speed signal is from the right rear abs sensor as its down on the diagams as-rear righ processed wheel speed via abs

never done it before buddy but seen someone say you can do it with the euro 3 vacuum turbo e46 to euro 4 electric needs a few wires and the software updated for the euro 4 so i can control this

@@xyoungyx I need to go from electric to vacuum. No mutch information there.

@@gcardpt ahh i see why would you want to mate???

@@xyoungyx because my friend already have the turbo with vacuum wastegate in the place

@@gcardpt i see have you asked on facebook? bmw m47/m57 performance page? plenty guys on there with good knowledge im on every m57 page possible on facebook 😂

284 and 690nm stock is good for a compact with no weight lol

I mean even stock is pretty good for a compact.

@@Solider21111 yeh of course but no one wants to be stock 😂 map as a bare minimum.a map on these makes night n day difference

thanks mate.its fairly easy.dont see why people waste money on a loom lol

we’ll it runs so whats to explain??

if you read my diagram thats in the video description its all listed on that.anything not listed isnt used mate

i think that connector is for the cluster inputs, i dont see in the x20 connector connecting with the cluster@@xyoungyx

@@urc24b x20 has nothing to do with this video mate x20 is e36 this video is showing how to run engine on minimal wiring and a breif description of what they do

as an ideea make a video how to connect the engine to the car. i am working on a project my self also, m41 to m47, the engine is in the car and running fine, but i need to make the cluster working@@xyoungyx

ur welcome enjoy ☺️ i have one on imobiliser delete yourself too

thanks man

thank you 🙏🏻

From ecu to clock wire?

water temperature is done from engine.you must have missed that part

water temperature is done outside of the ecu.you must have skipped some of the video if you missed the part about temperature sensors 😂

cheers bro

i haven’t done anything automatic yet mate.ull need to use the facebook pages on m57 defenders or transits to see how to do this i would imagine u need to keep some CAN modules and wire them up.also need a speed input so the box knows when to change gear ect

yup i thought that ,whats the part number for that water pipe your on about for the x5 engine getting all the parts toghether now before ive even took it out the car been cleaning inlet manifold and egr delete put it together in car make sure all is running before i pull it out as its gonna be sitting a while till i get it all sorted so it will run in my defender @@xyoungyx

@@graham-martin5847 i dont have the part number but here is ebay item number my man. 403492037784 erm for cleaning out the manifold i found a video and the guy used oven cleaner.it foams up and eats into the carbon nice.my one is already done.do not know why they let that nasty stuff go back through the intake 😂 ends up like charcoal grease 😂 always 1st thing to delete 😂

I've cleaned it now with two cans of Mr muscle jetwash hose pipe and brake cleaner that's all it's getting can't be arsed to do anymore

@@xyoungyx will this fit an 05 x 5

cheers pal

i would say so by the year yes mate.the ecu plug will be the same.but the other plug may be different but the wiring colours should be the same

@@xyoungyx ok thank! I will update you on how it goes.

Got it running now 😁 Wasn’t same wiring colors but ecu pin outs are the same. Pin 8 K line are missing. But will use can bus for obd2. (Didn’t check if pedal wire colors/number are same) Engine are going in my Volvo 245 1978

Do you know what feed fuel pressure to engine should be? Are there a regulator fitted on engine?

@@Drniborlshould be about 4 bar to the hp pump

i can make a video on ews delete mate.but u need to have a laptop and a k-d can cable and buy software to do it.its not expensive though

@@xyoungyxif you could make a video that’ll be awesome

​@@xyoungyx I have to buy it because I need it

​​@@xyoungyxwhat software is it? I have that cable and laptop. Engine ready to go in E34 its a 218hp euro4 ecu. Wouldnt be bad to delete ews probably egr dpf aswell and have to figure out what to do with abs...wouldnt mind to get stage1 on it aswell

@@janis.ozolins777 its called dde5 quickflash from bimmer tuning.it’s cheap.u basically read the tune then read the full file.then write the full file back to ecu with patch ews and that’s immobiliser deleted.search dde5 quick flash on here.its a basic video but i think im gona make one for the m57 lads and show you a little more detail on it.there videos on the software are like 45 seconds long

You're welcome!

thanks for the feedback matey

if you watch my other m57 video it should give you everything you need mate

Dude that’s awesome, since I’m swapping out of a complete car, I’m just going to swap the wires colour by colour I guess, at least now I know the important ones thanks to you. most of them are the same between the different e46 generations I would guess, the plugs are the difference. Just have to add clutch switch for cruise control I think. I have both cars complete, so I’ll take the electronic part of the key of the donor car with the ews box and connect as original. I guess that should work. Big help bro. Thanks for making the video.

@@petersanpeter863 if u follow the main ones on my diagram after that.the rest are basically colour matched for anything not in the diagram u will find the colour is the same on new plug vs old plug just be careful as there is 4 wires same colour-ews is black purple-fuel pump trigger is the same colour-so be sure u have the right one of each before connecting also there is 2 white green-one is pedal 5v one is right rear speed signal-again be sure ur connecting the right one and on some cars speed signal is yellow green-again there is a pedal yellow green so just be sure to follow the diagram 1st if u have the pedal and fuel done 1st u should be fine buddy

I connected it all just now, was thinking of doing the smoke test tomorrow 😝. I will double check these wires first. Thanks man. This is actually my Scottish e46 I’m building into a Spanish chassis LHD, pretty funny the job got saved by a Scotsman

Couldn’t just repin it as the pins on the old 184 Ecu are smaller then the pins on the 204 Ecu, had to solder the wires

its not as bad as it seems mate honestly.and the e82 should have the same ecu plug on it so its just a case of moving a few wires around.and deleting the rest thats not needed

@@xyoungyx nice one James I'm hoping that is the case , both ECU the one from the donor and the one on the 82 are both marked DDE7 so I don't know if that makes it even easier but I'd like to think so. Didn't realise I'd be needing the peddle so I'll pop out to the X3 donor and pull that while Its there still.

even a dde5 says dde7 thats not how it works dde5 to 7 look the same but its software inside that’s different mate.however the ecu plug is the same just be sure to get a diagram for the engine ur using and get a diagram of the car so u can be sure they match up.anything that doesn’t match.will need swapped to the matching pin between the diagrams

@@xyoungyx ok mate wise words and they are noted! . I'll get some computer time in today and get my ducks in line.