BOAC INAUGURAL JUMBO JET FLIGHT TO AUSTRALIA - IN COLOUR - COLOUR IS VERY GOOD 

In that case I doubt there would have been sunbathers on the beach in the middle of winter!

Just before the restructuring of BOAC as British Airways?

paulorocky Could be shitty American date system, confusing the hell out of us. In that case it is December then, in the middle of the Aussie summer! I think...

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There’s no way that thing could have done LHR-SYD non stop.

Indeed!

And it has horrible acoustics.

I agree - these shorts were made for the cinema until well into the 70s

Agreed! And Harry Secombe was acting like a silent film actor. ☺

I want to know if this is the 747 the Iraqi army blew up in Kuwait City in 1990. It was still on the books then.

@@vieuxbal1253 Watching Harry Secombe play the fool would have annoyed me no end if I had been a fare paying First Class passenger on this flight

DC-4 or DC-6

@@gaguy1967 No I mean the second just before that, behind the tail of the 747 during roll out.

@@leobakkerflightandspace6655 oh yeah i see it, sorry

And a DC-4 at 2:12! Qantas used it specifically for Norfolk Island, which had a short runway.

I think that DC-3 could be VH-RRA. It was owned by CSIRO from 1965 to 1978 and operated out of Sydney.

Ryan Air is a low cost airline bro! BA is a proper comercial airline right?

@@ParamDeshpandepass123 he was joking 😋

@@vieuxbal1253 i know but comparing Ryan air to BA...has BA lowered its standards?

@@ParamDeshpandepass123 I think what he's trying to say is that BA is nowhere comparable to what BOAC used to be.

@@vieuxbal1253 actually he said that BA is outclassed by every other airline except Ryanair i.e. why I asked

Try 24 hours mate.

Those B747-100s could only do about 8 hours, so there would have been multiple stops.

@@flymajj I remember in the 1980’s doing Melbourne-Sydney-Singapore-Bombay-Rome (or Amsterdam) - London on Qantas 747.

@@flymajj At least one stop.

it is routes?

The first 747-100s were built with six upper deck windows (three per side) to accommodate upstairs lounge areas. Later, as airlines began to use the upper deck for premium passenger seating instead of lounge space, Boeing offered a ten-window upper deck as an option. Some early -100s were retrofitted with the new configuration

@@sdry1688 Only the last BOAC B747-100 was delivered with all the upper deck windows unplugged. As you say, the rest of the -100s had them unplugged later. Some 200s were also delivered with the 3-window upper deck config, e.g. SAS.

No. She is around 53.

Yes the words back and bad are missing. Sorry RU-vidrs.

To be fair, he was a comedian, but his schtick here was pretty dire.

'Poor Cousins' - first in the street with a new Rover.

Exactly. That’s what I thought. And the route it was likely flying was Australia-U.K..

First class.

Funnily enough my first ride on a 747 was from LHR to Dorval. I, too, got drunk.

@@bilbobigbollix7318 Good stuff - I miss the old days of travel.

@@northernlight696 - Yeah. On that Dorval flight met a guy who gave me a lift into Montreal (via the pub, the King Arthur??) and introduced me to his mates and their families. Had a great time there!

@@bilbobigbollix7318 Glad you enjoyed Montreal. This was my first trip to Europe and have wonderful memories. Too bad we can not go back in time !!

Yes it is still possible to by a bottle of whisky at a duty free shop.

LOL

Orange. (Boards of Canada).

This was able to go east from England? The Pacific route begun 4 years earlier with a 707 stopped in New York, San Francisco, Honolulu, and Fiji.

@@tomservo56954 East from England to Australia is shorter so yes.... if it was NZ it's much the same either way.

@@tomservo56954 that's mental to think, people actually bothered with that trip to Australia with those stops back then.

@@pattate9636 Just imagine going there on a ship...

And it even was a 747-200, whereas BOAC's was a 100 Series!... :)

Ah! Isn’t ignorance bliss?! 🤣

Kardos András Ah...okay. I had always presumed the first 747 had the 3 Windows, so I've learned something new today 👍🏻

Seen it have you? Be a tight squeeze hooking up with him in a plane lav.

@@gigaboat not sure why it should be. The aborigines wear western clothes and we don’t kick up a fuss.

They're noobs compared to BA and Qantas.

JJ Thomas A350 actually (still in test)

Hardly. There’s no Sydney -London non-stop. Still too far. It’s Perth - London and even then it has to have strict loading guidelines.

Flight was probably 20+ hours. Probably no stops if only a handful of passengers were on board. Otherwise, the plane would stop over in Singapore before continuing on to Sydney.

I flew on one of these BOAC 747's in 1973 London to Australia. I was quite young but I remember it refueled in Beirut now Lebanon. It stopped in Australia after this Perth I think or maybe Darwin to refuel once again and then onto the final destination Sydney. Quite interesting to note the number of refueling stops as today they seem to able to stay in the air alot longer. I think it must have been a series 100 and lucky enough I was shown around the cockpit at cruising altitude which you wouldnt get today. All analogue gauges back then and a flight engineer as well.

Back in those days, the flights between London and east coast Australia used to have to stop twice to refuel. It was well into the 1980s before the new generation aircraft could manage the modern one stop option.

In the days when there was only the Boeing 747-200, LHR-SYD would probably have been LHR-DEL-SIN-SYD or LHR-BEY-SIN-SYD. Just the Delhi-Sydney leg is 6,476 miles, so DEL-SIN-SYD for the latter leg would have been common. The idea behind multiple stops was mainly to ensure safe operation, as headwinds along the route would often reduce range; 5000 miles back in the 1970s was considered a long-range route and most nonstops with 4-holers were shorter than this. LHR-SIN is too long even for the 747SP, so if this model was used LHR-BEY-SIN-SYD or LHR-DEL-SIN-SYD would have been needed. Once the 747-400 was acquired LHR-SIN-SYD was possible and for a long time now has been the typical route for London Heathrow to Sydney Kingsford Smith. Some flights, when loaded lightly enough could manage the 10,000+ miles of LHR-SYD nonstop. The Boeing 777-200LR and 787 can do LHR-SYD nonstop, at least if there are no headwinds for significant portions of the route and the aircraft is loaded below max capacity. The 747-8 can also do it if loaded in a 3-class pax configuration to put its capacity below 400 passengers.

hananokuni2580 Thank you for the detailed info. I did not travel in those days but friends did and I do recall that a couple of people described stops in Bahrein. I remember that when the SP came in Syd-LA became a non-stop option. Apparently Perth - LHR is soon to be non stop. But no advantage to me. I am on the east coast so prefer a stopover in Asia. Again, thank you!

Ridiculous...cringe worthy

The difference was Eric Morcambe was generally funny. Harry wasn’t except for the Goon show.

They would do ok, turbine jets can run on pretty much anything flammable even diesel if you have to. Probably best to stick with Jet-A1 though.

Well technically, the Latin word is Petroleum (Literal translation Rock Oil). Since AVGAS is a derivative of Petroleum Petrol can be considered the correct term for the fuel . ⛽️ The word Petro, is also, the origin of the name Peter.

@@paulsz6194 Turbine engines don't use Avgas, They use Avtur (JetA1)

@@TRPGpilot ok, thanks for the update!

Difficult to answer with absolute certainty but best guess is LHR-FRA-BEY-THR-BKK-HKG-DRW-SYD. That was the published routeing for the Monday BOAC flight in Dec 1971 and 6th December was a Monday. However, it is possible that a different routeing could have been used if this was some sort of special inaugural flight and not the regular Monday scheduled service.

@@Ben-xe8ps just Mondays?

@@gaguy1967 That routeing for Monday flights. Different routeing for flights on other days of the week. This is the BOAC UK-Aust/NZ schedule Oct-Dec 1971. The number at the end is the day of operation 1 = Monday, 2 = Tuesday etc. via Eastern Hemisphere BA812 LHR-FRA-BEY-THR-BKK-HKG-DRW-SYD 747 FY 1 BA712 LHR-ZRH-KHI-CCU-SIN-PER-MEL V10 FY 1 BA814 LHR-ZRH-FCO-DEL-RGN-HKG-DRW-SYD V10 FY 2 BA806 LHR-TLV-THR-BKK-HKG-DRW-SYD 747 FY 3 BA808 LHR-FCO-BEY-BOM-RGN-HKG-DRW-SYD V10 FY 4 BA718 LHR-ZRH-THR-DEL-KUL-SIN-PER-SYD-AKL V10 FY 4 BA720 LHR-ZRH-BEY-KHI-CCU-SIN-DRW-BNE-SYD V10 FY 5 BA802 LHR-BEY-THR-DEL-HKG-DRW-MEL 747 FY 6 BA722 LHR-ZRH-KHI-CCU-SIN-PER-SYD-AKL V10 FY 6 BA724 LHR-ZRH-TLV-THR-DEL-BKK-SIN-DRW-SYD V10 FY 7 Via Western Hemisphere BA591 LHR-JFK-LAX-HNL-NAN-SYD-MEL V10 FY DAILY

@@Ben-xe8ps The B747-100 went London, Bahrain, Bombay, Bangkok/Singapore, Sydney. When they introduced the -200 it went London, Bahrain, Singapore, Sydney.

@@jimzafiriou7808 LHR-BAH-SIN-SYD sounds to me like Qantas flights QF1/2 in the early 80's not the normal BA routing.

could be..the B 747 stillmade quite a few stops though..those ultra long hauls today are horrible..16 hrs-17hrs non-stop?

Yes. 12/06/1971 to be exact, according to AP archive website.

What has polar route to Japan got to do with this video of the first 747 flight to Australia? A stopover is a deliberate break of journey. A flight does not have stopovers. It has re-fuelling stops of short duration, probably around an hour or so. If the passengers chose to disembark and have a stopover in Anchorage then obviously their journey would take longer. However, for passengers who did not so choose the polar route flight to Japan was quicker than the traditional route via the far east, The quickest route to Japan (Tokyo) was however the trans Siberian route with a refuelling stop in Moscow which was also flown in that era.

Qantas.

@@NoTaboos in the 1970s? QANTAS flew DC4?

@@gaguy1967 Yes, specifically for Norfolk Island only, which had a short runway. The final flight was 27th Feb 1977.

@@NoTaboos ok thanks!!

But give on an Asian Carrier these days.

Yes and no. Those seats look shtt compared to todays first or business class seats. You can make todays into a bed. The old ones did not recline that much.

Yawn. Guessing it won’t stop you having kids.

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