@@XploiTee Haha, the name on the boat is LOOKFAR...oops. That boat must have one hell of a fin keel Aaand, the water is very shallow there. Guy in the water is standing up. Gheez...
Depth sounder - Dept chart or GPS I don't sail but I was taught this in coast guard class but I am only certified up to 35" but most of the sail boat people I know think they are special - I don't have the patience to wait for the wind I want to get on with it already
Pull it down from the main halyard. This will lean the boat more onto its beam and present a bigger surface to the water and float the boat even in shallow water. Then easily pull it into deeper water. This avoids risk of damage to , prop, keel, hull, rudder etc. Have done this many times.🤗😄
Was looking for this comment. I was shaking my head the whole time SeaTow tried to just brute force this job. If twin 300's isn't moving it, you need to change your approach because it is not lightly aground.
Yep, use a halyard to pull her over and get off the keel and floating on the hull side. Then pull her free. That wasn't capsized, They sail every day heeled over further than that.
Can we just talk about how bad ass that life guard was. Paddled out into near open water, into one of the most dangerous inlets in the world, left the safety of his board to battle the surf and throw a rope to this vessel in need. Job well done to you sir.
Bro, it's waist deep water and 6 inch ankle snappers. Literally kiddy pool level. Our geriatric swim group made up of 50 to 70 year olds goes out in WAY worse conditions than these literally every day.
"I realize that you are standing in surf trying to help me, but there is NO WAY I am bending down to grab the line. You must throw it over my bow rails and into my hands."
One of my sailboats was a 19' Windstar, we ran aground on a sandbar near the Holgate Inlet near Long Beach Island in New Jersey. It was a beautiful day, the water was warm, and I was able to get in the water and push the boat over the sand bar. It's actually a great memory of a wonderful sailing adventure with my father.
I ran aground in an inlet one time with an outgoing tide. I have a deep keeled downeaster. Years I went out the same inlet and never ran aground, I was going out and well off the jetty and got stuck on the sand bar. Truly terrifying feeling all the water pushing against your hull and feeling the boat like you've never felt before. Like when your boat turns on it's side after getting hit by a wave broadside , it's like time stops and you're in some weird scary zone.
it is absolutely necessary to list the sailboat, so that the keel is no longer stuck in the sand. The mainsail halyard is usually used, pulling it from another boat, to starboard or port side
Once i got unstuck by puting 100 liters of water and a crew member on the end of boom and swinging them out. No wind and waves in that situation. Only my poor decision
Thinking same thing. Sea tow should’ve had a line on now and stern and pulled sideways back out to sea. Or have a 2nd sea tow pulling the top of the mast from a halyard, as you stated.
Done it myself and it works like a charm. Spare halliard to another vessel that pulls the mast over about 45 degrees or so to lift the keel off the bottom, then just move everything out to deeper water.
I learned how to sail back in 1976, but, I started going in boats in 1964. This had to be a very novice boater. Anyone who knows anything about boating can see those breakers in that stretch of water and realize that that means that there is a shoal or sandbar under them. Look just 50 yards out how calm the water is and then, in this area, there are waves breaking. If you don't know what that means, you should not be driving any sort of boat.
First thing I'd do after this is check the hull for leaks, and once the boat is safely docked or anchored, check the engine raw water system for sand or mud. Oh and pass the hat around to pay for the tow.
@@dougaltman9148 yes, I saw the water coming out, was thinking it was either A/C or bilge pump. Being the boat looked like a long range cruising sailboat, I doubt they had A/C running. That's why I decided to make my comment.
Ahh stimulus be here Wednesday...pull it on the hard and pretend to be a captain...😂 that sea toe driver could be the first mate!both looked clueless...sheer luck.🏴☠️⚔️🧐
Shout out to all my, Seatow, Towboat, and Coast Guard.. and other Maritine vessles.. for being the competent person(s) making my job easy...Thank You! - Local HarborMaster.
For all the seatow and tiowwboats around would it be too muck to hope one of them actually knew how to.... you know... TOW A BOAT? Goes double for Captain Keelgrrinder. Someone should put the Benny Hill soundtrack on this or the song that starts a circus so its less painful to watch I'd bet my biggest testicle he has never once raised a sail on that boat.
Here at El Rio de la Plata we use a very simple maneuver. One boat pulls a halyard and heels the sailboat and the other pulls the bow. The sailboat leaves easy and fast navigating on the band until it is straightened only by the distribution of the weight.
They needed two two boats for this job, or actually _ANY_ mono-hull sailboat that's aground. Boat #1: Main tow either from the bow or stern as conditions dictate. Boat #2: Rig a line to the tip of the mast. Pull at a 45-90 degree angle along with boat #1 to heel the stuck vessel over as far as safely possible, this will help get the keel out of the mud/sand.
@Wogden 700 I've _been_ pulled off just like that in moderate weather in L.I. Sound. Had to have the rigging retuned but no _MAJOR_ damage. Not like pounding against the bottom until high-tide returned anyway!
That grounding was much more severe due to the surf than any I've experienced, but fortunately conditions weren't life-threatening. There are worse things than warm water and sandy bottoms. Thanks for capturing it! Heeling a sailboat over is a great way to get afloat (that's how I've done it), but in those waves you might just as easily get pushed further onto the bar. They got it off successsfully with no apparent damage (although for sure I'd be checking everything, including the bow cleats, the bottom and the engine). Call it an expensive win and learn from it. Just the other day I saw a video of a guy sitting in an arm chair and a bunch of sailors commented he was doing it wrong. (with apologies to the original author).
That is how I did it too, towed gently with the spinnaker halyard, healing boat over until it did not touch the bottom, and we had a wing keel, worked very well despite that.
The text book way to do it, on a sailboat with a keel stuck in a sand bar, is, as you described it for sure. I hope he, this way, got a strong keel on that boat. One of those bolted on ones, if the bolts are also corroded, may outright come off, if you tug and plow it out of a sand bar like that.
@@Zarcondeegrissom haha very similar! its excusable in random spots but that bridge and this inlet are famous so these guys earned a big fat fail sticker =P
Maybe put a line around the keel and get a heavy weight using the main halyard to weigh down the mast and allow the boat to heel while the tow boat pulls the keel from under that sand. You could also strategically anchor and wait for high tide.
If you're not a member, you call SeaTow and give them your credit card info before they even come out. Then they throw in a free year of membership after that.
the Sea Tow annual fee covers towing, line in props ,fuel drops and and some other minor services. If you are hard aground or sinking it can cost more. It's still a great service but it doesn't cover major events. If this sailboat had a SeaTow Membership that probably covered this call. It was one SeaTow boat and about an hour of work. I was a Captain for them years ago in Fort Lauderdale. The guys from BoatUS were circling like vultures hoping to get the job. It is very competitive between the towing companies.
what could have been done to help towing it off was to heel the boat over to reduce the draft of it (add a weight to the end of the boom or mast top). it was common to do back in the old days and use a anchor.
I used to work for sea tow in north east. Fun trick but dangerous one for sailboats is have one boat tied off to main halyard raised all the way up and another boat towing. Halyard boat lists the vessel over to free up keel while it’s dragged to deeper water
Been in a similar position myself (9 ton sloop), with 6' waves pushing me up on the bank, and a 40 knot breeze pushing as well (cyclone brewing). Loaded a sand anchor in the dinghy, and ran it out into deep water with 2HP Suzuki on 8' tinny. 30 minutes cranking the anchor winch got us off. Ran back to anchorage, broke out the Scotch!
@@balbareto Desperate situation calls for extreme actions. Remote location, no help within 4 hours. A lifetime surfer, I was stretched. And that little Suzuki was screaming, out of the water half the time. I was really afraid I might kill it! The dinghy was a very light tinny. I found my experience in surfing came in handy on quite a few occasions in my 10 years of cruising.
@@Devo491 it is true that in desperate conditions we can manage what we couldn’t imagine. I sail in my 1,5 ton small 24´ boat, but as you say, I also feel very useful all my surfing experience in many situations. Keep safe Devo, hug.
Looks like the keel plowed into the sand. Probably should have tugged it from the stern. Hopefully the keel and the prop/shaft are OK. A couple of marker buoys at low tide could help the novice boaters but it would take business away from the tow boats and boat repair folks. Always interesting, thanks!
That was my first thought - Drag it in the opposite direction of the grounding. However, some of these boats have foils and the rudder post is questionable. The guy tossing the rope was standing and the boat was a foot to two above waterline so I guessed five feet of draft. I would have yanked to starboard right away though.
With a sailboat you need to tow it sideways so the keel slides across the sand not digging into it. That's why the boat is sideways in the first place, the waves push the boat sideway. Have three boats pulling, One on the Bow, one on the stern and one in the middle pulling the boat over with the main mast. Not a lot just enough to keep her leaning over.
@@leebenson4874 Agreed. Someone earlier in this thread mentioned a dismasting if tried. I passed that comment by and then considered the side pull force on a halyard versus the force mother provides when she blows. A stick that crashed in a blow is rigged improperly or too light for any sailing rig. That lightly rigged commenter must have been a dinghy sailor who never advanced to the big rigs. Hang the rags boys! :)
Bunch of wingnuts including the towboat. All they had to do was heel the boat over using the main halyard. This lifts the keel off the bottom and the boat would have slid right across the sand bar. We do that all the time, and FYI, a sailboat is meant to heel over,
if the water isnt passing over the gunwale of your sailboat when sailing you either dont have wind or you are doing it wrong. This thing barely got a splash on it so it wasnt even close to proper running angle for a sailboat.
Came here to say this, unbelievable that they didn't know to use the halyard to heel the boat, could have been out of there in 2 minutes with one tow boat on the halyard and one on the bridle.
I’m no expert sailor…… nor was I ever in the Navy…. But I was in the Army. Looking 👀 at this situation….. it always gets me how no one thinks of wearing a life jacket ! ! ! I’m glad that everything seems to have turned out OK 👍. 😎
they really needed another boat on the Halyard to pull the boat over , While the other one Pulls , Thems the breaks hitting sand Bars are common Occurences
I feel sorry for that poor dog on board - he looks terrified. What great heroes the rescuers are to continuously have to go help these inexperienced boaters.
@@stephentuttle4275: Thank you! The other comment deserves no response. Here in Idaho, if you must be towed, it’s either Sheriff department or Fish and game. I believe, as of 2018 anyway, it was upwards of $250 a tow. In ‘21? Who knows.
@@TERoss-jk9ny that's more or less the going rate for sea tow when you don't have a membership here in Miami, the annual fee seems like a scam until you get stuck just once🤣🤣
Multiple ways to have avoided this but here are two. 1. Make sure you are aware of tides and how that could impact you entering any harbor or channel 2. Sailboats of this size need at least 8 foot of clearance. This captain must be very green.
My observation is that the captain didn’t have any shoes on and was forward on the main deck. He was also there with no life jacket on, probably until the police told him to put one on. He Alamo’s got washed over the side because he lost footing. Running aground is not the real issue, handling it properly is. I think a line around the mast and pulling to STBD would have slid it off without putting pressure on the rudder.
*Keep the keel between the red & green bouys/channel markers.* *Or ... in a sailboat, run a B&G chart plotter, if you don't have a forward looking depth sounder/sonar.* *Just saying ... that's hard to do if you're a Captain who cares about your crew.*
Been in same situation. The tow has to time his pulls with the wave surges. Might also need to run a line through the main halyard to heel the vessel enough to break the suction. Lucky it was a sunny day in FLA and not where we were.
Running aground can happen to anybody. I was on the USCG buoy tender Iris (out of Astoria Oregon) and we got called out to assist a tanker that was having an emergency and it was after midnight. The Colombia River bar was breaking from jetty to jetty and it could be heard for at least a mile. Anyway the Iris was heading out and there was a rumble shudder that lasted for 10 seconds or so, then nothing. We kept going, got the recovery done and when the sun started to rise you could see fuel oil floating around the entire cutter. The hull had hit bottom and ruptured a bunch of hull plates. We were then instantly off to the Seattle dry docks for two months of work. We had been over a breaking bar many times but that day with the dynamics of the river going out and the tide going out also, jumping sandbars had formed mid-channel to cause a hull breach.
If you ever go aground afterwards be sure to carefully check down below in the keel area for any stress leaks. There is an unordinary amount of pressure put into that area whenever such an undertaking occurs.
And to think of all the passages he could have gotten stuck in here. Maybe he was looking for a new challenge. Wonder what he would do in Deception Pass.
The way to remove a sailboat from grounding is to put up the sails and fill them with air, putting the boat on an angle and lessening the depth required for the keel. I don't know why they didn't do that and it also appears that their engine was not blowing wet exhaust.
Rig a tow bridle around main mast and use halyard winch to raise bridle to spreaders. Then pull from that higher angle so the keel swings away from the bottom. Done it, it works great.
Like my grandpa use to say "Some people have more money than common sense"! which after watching quite a few of these videos , that saying definitely holds true!
Best way to gett a sailboat off a sandbank is to take a halyard which starts from the top of the mast and hand it to another vessel which then gently pulls the boat over onto its side far enough to free the keel up so that the tow boat can pull it clear.
@3:20 I was like, dang that surf guy is one strong swimmer, holding that wet heavy rope and just kicking to stay afloat...Then I realized that dude is standing up and that sailboat is beyond stuck..
@@WavyBoats He was a lifeguard from the Boca Hotel Beach Club. Sea Tow should have flipped him $200 bucks from the $2000 tow. Without that extra hand. It would have been very interesting watching the Sea Tow Captain and the panicked owner get those lines over. Especially when one considers the depth at the bottom of the trough was about 2 feet and still going lower with the tide.
I had a new commercial fishing boat, and dredged a channel for a boat on the beach, then had to re antifoul the stern area, the sand from the prop removed the paint.
Amazing how shallow these waters can be at low tide. I've seen this happen on the San Francisco Bay. The captain had to be rescued by helicopter. Got to watch out in low tide when you have a keel. Thank you for posting.
Happened to me over by Bair Island near Redwood City, was visually about half a mile or more from the shore. My 5' draft boat got caught on the most minor sandbar and before I knew it I was stuck with an outgoing tide. It receded to the ground, and then some! Had to wait till 2am when the tide came up and show up to the marina. Seatow and the CG could not help me out or risk grounding themselves as well... After that I got Navionics and all's been good so far.
Two options the sailors could have done once aground 1.) Put sails up to get the boat to heel to reduce draft to make it easier for sea-tow 2.) Both people on the sailboat could use their own weight by standing by the shrouds and/or placing the boom over the leeward side of the boat and hanging on the end in an effort to reduce draft.
Get a boat to pull the sailboat by the mast to the side so it heals over making the draft shallower at the same time have another boat pull it forward.
Any smart boater pays for a year of service with SeaTow before they leave the slip. I would never sail without my Sea Tow membership because anything can happen.
I've pulled a 30 footer out of the mud before. Used the spinnaker halyard and maybe 40 horse power. No other line needed. Scared one of the crew on board, but the captain knew what I was asking for. No risk of damage.
Looks like a good breeze so put up the main and jib which will heel the boat and perhaps set her free. Use the powerboat to keep the bow heading upwind until sails up then let bow down to fill the sails
Monohull sailboats are almost impossible to capsize. Even if they do capsize, a good design will right itself shortly after. The most common reason for a monohull sailboat to capsize if it somehow loses its keel, which is what makes a sailboat so hard to capsize. The keel contains thousands of pounds of lead or steel and it is hung well under the bottom of the boat, acting like a counter weight. There are numerous stories of monohull sailboats caught out in giant storms. The crew panics and calls for evacuation. They are winched off the boat by a helo, and returned to land. Months later, the sailboat is potted bobbing around in the ocean crewless, having survived the storm, and whatever else the boat had encountered in that time. This boat was never in any danger of capsizing.
Right. no experienced person would have thought that but I must say that the whole idea of most monohulls righting themselves after they capzise is a myth sure it takes a lot for one to capzise but sir I begg you consider thinking they will right itself unless its under 15 feet right itself loool
@@rafwhy9888 Sail boats capsize when in a big seaway. After a wave has capsized a boat, there's going to be another wave right behind it. That wave will certainly right such a top heavy vessel as a capsized sail boat, and if it doesn't, certainly one of the next two dozen will. This, of course, doesn't happen as readily on a motor vessel because they don't have keels that hang so far under their boat and don't have tons of iron or lead ballast hanging from them. That's what I mean by righting itself. Yes, I realize that there are poorly designed sail boats that don't have enough ballast, and are more difficult for a wave to right the boat, but any sailboat that still has its keel attached will almost certainty right itself once the next big wave hits it.
@@operator0 How important would be the position of the capsized boat in the water and how probable is it to find itself in that position. How bout water thats going to start coming in even if he closes the hatches. How long approximately before that becomes an issue. by motor vessel you mean power boat or sail with a motor??? I had a 1978 coronado centercockpit and three power since then. Never thought my sailboat could right itself even though it had a beatuful kneel but I think about sailboat in general like say older then 90s I dont know get my drift :) like those cant possiblly right themselves you know bro not that youtube is a teacher but I have seen countless hours of boat fails never been able to see a sailboat right itself
@@rafwhy9888 The center of gravity is so high on a capsized, well designed sail boat that all it really needs a little nudge that isn't directly on the stern or bow. Even a 20 or 30 degree tilt would easily be enough to flip a well designed sail boat back over. Yachting Monthly did a capsize test on a cheap Bavaria about ten years ago. The boat was a shoal draft and they let it stay inverted for a good 30 seconds. There was water ingress, but I was quite surprised at just how water tight the boat was when inverted...even for a cheap boat like this. To my untrained eye, I would say it could be upside down for a good 5 minutes before it took on too much water to flip back over. Certainly enough time for the next dozen waves to hit the boat. Even if I'm off by 50%, that's 5+ chances for a big wave to flip it upright. And remember, this was a cheap, old boat in need of a lot of maintenance. I would have no doubt, what-so-ever, that a well designed sailboat could capsize multiple times in a large storm and end up with the black side down, bobbing away peacefully after the storm had passed. The '79 Fastnet and '98 Sydney to Hobart races prove it.
@@operator0 I had seen lots on the hobart but didnt think about capzise I watched the Fastnet stuff now and specifically said they capsized and righted itself I also just watched the yachting monthly test you mentioned all interesting But I really appreciate your feedback and I understand what your saying a 20 30 tilt would help and ya I guess thanks
If you are a member of towboatusa or seatow you have to call ☎️ a 1800 number to get the membership fee. If you don’t you might be spending a lot more. That is what I heard
First thin first : hoist sails and heel the boat. Maybe it wouldn’t work but sailing 101 is exists for a reason. 1) check navigation informations 2) get your tide numbers right. Check and recheck. 3) always have your sails ready to hoist : finalize the main sail entirely only when on doc. 4) as a rule never trust your engine (although this is not the issue here) Many mistakes here… Then again shit never happens when you stay home. Good luck captain. Next time hoist the sails : I’m sure you could have gotten out of trouble by yourself when there was still time.
They should’ve probably thought about to fin under the boat as well as how deep the water was and if it was a low tide or not. I remember my first time...
Someone should introduce that *sailboat driver* to a tide chart. Waiting until slack time at high tide would have made all the drama and potential danger unnecessary.
A second vessel with a long line attached to a mast halward to pull the yacht over on it's side more. By pulling only on the bow the keel will continue to dig into the sand bank. If the yacht is healing more the keel will lift off the bank. Hope this helps.
How much would a rescue like that cost the captain of the sailboat? Anyone have any personal experience with grounding their boat and what it cost to get towed off?
I had a simple tow due to a broken motor - I had TowBoat US - the guy pulled me for free, he said it would have been about $900 - mine was only a 500 yard tow.
Someone should tell these tow boat captains that you have more power pushing in some scenarios. I’ve driven tug boats on Hayden lake before and the old timer there taught me that the prop wash will make your pull less efficient and can cause more drag then you can defeat. Ever notice when you see a tug it’s almost always pushing
GIven you can quickly loose your entire boats in such cases you tend to be happy to pay some hundreds or even thousends to the rescuers if they manage to save it.
Probably about 5k. The boat appears to be around 45', and it's grounded hard enough that removing it puts the salvager at fairly significant risk, along with putting the boat at significant risk.
@@thundergod111 That's why I have unlimited tow insurance. It only costs a few bucks a year where I am in the great lakes but it will pay for itself many times over the first time you use it. A 20-30 mile tow will easily be a few grand and that's just a basic tow. If you add beaching, any sort of recovery, etc, it will go up even faster.
Funny part is if SeaTow had half a brain he would have used the main halyard line from the top of the mast to another small support boat (a 9' dinghy with 6HP would work, or that BOCA police boat, or any number of other boats trying to assist) to list the sailboat over and free the keel of the bottom so he could easily pull it off the sand bar. Instead he tried to use twin 300's and just blunt force it off and possibly caused more damage to the boat.
@@thundergod111 600-1000 would be a normal tow on a day where you're broken down and need a tow to the launch or marina 30 minutes away. A grounding is def a different charge. A typical charge would be 1500 for a simple tow home.
Might just be the luckiest day the guy will ever have , I don’t know if the tow boat driver will issue a bill or not but whatever it is pay it and shake his hand.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼
