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Bob Dylan The Complete Budokan Discussion 

John Heaton
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I discuss the original live album recorded in ‘78 plus the newly released expanded version

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@bennymerenti6850
@bennymerenti6850 5 месяцев назад
A really good review John. Earl’s Court 1978 was my first live concet of Bob’s. It was for me his best concert although I wouldnt fault the next 41 concerts I went on to see following that. Met him in ‘91 & had a conversation with him. At 13 my parents said “he’ll grow out of it. I’m 65 now but dont seem to be growing out of Bob & his music/lyrics. 😄 It’s great to hear someone who knows very well what he is talking about. Thank you for your knowledgable piece here.
@mpmternst
@mpmternst 10 месяцев назад
Budokan was my first Bob Dylan album, so I have a special fondness for it. Thank you for sharing these sweet memories.
@davecostello560
@davecostello560 10 месяцев назад
Me too! Got it when I was 15, I was obsessed with Simple Twist of Fate as my teenage hormones were kicking in!
@mpmternst
@mpmternst 10 месяцев назад
@@davecostello560 Ha, ha! I guess I'd better not play that song for my kids!
@davecostello560
@davecostello560 10 месяцев назад
lol no it's not x rated, it stirred my imagination as a mysterious love song!
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
@@davecostello560yes it’s wonderful…forgot to mention it!
@patrickmaurice591
@patrickmaurice591 10 месяцев назад
@@johnheaton5667Would it be possible to review your favourite Bruce Springsteen’s albums in the near future? 🎶✨
@PaulReiners
@PaulReiners 9 месяцев назад
I completely remember the first time I saw this album. I must have been about 18 and was in a Target store with my dad. Target had an unusually large display of this album for some reason. I can't remember whether I bought it with my own money or whether my dad bought it for me, but I did get it immediately and took it home and played it that evening. I pretty much agree with everything you said about the album and the songs. To me, it's a very weird album, but very adventurous. When an arrangement on the song works, it really works. I wonder how much Rob Stoner had to do with the arrangements. I believe he was the musical director of the band on that tour. It's completely different than the "Hard Rain" album. Weird, but adventurous and stellar in places.
@FarNorthLiving
@FarNorthLiving 10 месяцев назад
He stopped off in New Zealand as well. First time I saw him. Played the album to death instead of going to school when the album came out. Happy days!
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Sorry I forgot to mention NZ!
@CalicoSilver
@CalicoSilver 7 месяцев назад
Great review, John. (How did I miss this?) I never cared for the Budokan album and wasn't planning on listening to any of the expanded release, but after listening to your superb review, I may just have a listen. (btw, I really do wish Dylan was as interactive with his audiences as he was in the past) Thanks. Jeff
@spinynorman8217
@spinynorman8217 10 месяцев назад
I have been listening to the new release today and thoroughly enjoying it; Budokon was my gateway album to Dylan back in the early eighties and I am thrilled to be able to have this extra material to digest. I never understood the animosity towards this album and being younger than the first wave of Dylan fans maybe I saw things differently, reminds me of the big deal made over Phil Collins in Genesis, they couldn't have gotten a more suitable replacement if they had recruited for years IMHO.
@RonaldBrown59
@RonaldBrown59 10 месяцев назад
I remember when this record came out, but I never listened to it. But your review has peaked my interest, I will give a listen today. Great video, and thanks for sharing John.
@dantheman1624
@dantheman1624 10 месяцев назад
Any live version of “where are you tonight”…my favorite Dylan song
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
He certainly played it later on in the tour but there are reasonable quality recordings from Paris and Blackbushe (UK) on youtube with a lot more Street Legal material including your favourite!
@AmpatVargheseKoshy
@AmpatVargheseKoshy 10 месяцев назад
he played it
@mikekaylor1226
@mikekaylor1226 10 месяцев назад
My favorite Dylan album! I've never understood the critical lambasting it took. His voice was the strongest here that I have heard on anything else. The versions of One More Cup of Coffee, and Shelter from the Storm are absolutely fantastic!
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
yes and simple twist of fate and to ramona are also highlights
@67Parsifal
@67Parsifal 10 месяцев назад
This was his best ever tour, and his best ever band. Sadly, the tour was recorded too early - the European shows, particularly the british ones, were off the scale brilliant.
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
I agree it improved over time. That Picnic At Blackbushe bootleg is phenomenal.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Yes I just listened to Blackbushe on RU-vid...superb,,,but these Tokyo peformances have their moments!
@MichaelWarchol
@MichaelWarchol 10 месяцев назад
Totally agree. The tour got better as the year went by. Unfortunately, I’m guessing that Columbia only recorded the Japanese first two shows. Fortunately there are some great sounding bootlegs out there.
@jaylene.turner6524
@jaylene.turner6524 10 месяцев назад
Great video,John!
@markshamilton
@markshamilton 10 месяцев назад
He also played at Western Springs in New Zealand, it was his first time here.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Yes sorry I didn’t mention NZ!
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
This tour was so extensive because it was his "paying for my divorce" tour (which correlates with that lyric change at the end of "I Threw It All Away"). He returned to Japan in 1986 and 1994.
@67Parsifal
@67Parsifal 10 месяцев назад
I don’t think that’s the truth. If he’d been determined just to make money, he would’ve toured with a much smaller band. Or he could have toured solo. But, instead, he chose to tour with a large band of some of the most expensive musicians he could find, including people like Steve Douglas and Bobbye Hall, who were stars in their own right.
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
@@67Parsifal Documented in Down The Highway: The Life Of Bob Dylan. "It costs a lot to get divorced in California"-Dylan
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info...I felt sure he returned as he said he would!
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
@@johnheaton5667 Thank you for these great reviews.
@MichaelWarchol
@MichaelWarchol 10 месяцев назад
Critics dubbed it the “alimony tour” because of his recent divorce. It may be true. Dylan toured from February until December of 78, and really only took a few weeks off to record Street Legal. Prior to this, Dylan had never toured so much in one year.
@jeffreyroberts7438
@jeffreyroberts7438 10 месяцев назад
I think all the reviews I’ve seen are fantastic, lots of depth and interesting content. Almost takes me back to the whispering Bob Harris days👍 Blood on the Tracks was the first album I purchased as an art student in the seventies, along with dark side of the moon and tubular bells…happy days in brum
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
Bob Dylan stopped talking to the audience in 1987 starting with the Dylan & The Dead shows. It's also when he started substantially varying his setlist night to night. It's also when he started touring every year (well, he had toured in '86 so strctly speaking that was when his touring every year started). He learned at least the former two from them, and I prefer both practices. I never needed a rapport with the artist beyond music, or a "show" as such. And on occassions where I would see multiple shows on a tour, it was nice to get a varierty of material.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
i agree that the 78 set lists are largely the same but good to see Street Legal tracks entering the set list gradually!
@tyronewhitehead3123
@tyronewhitehead3123 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant review
@markandrewstjohn3674
@markandrewstjohn3674 5 месяцев назад
My first Dylan album too. Still rate it !
@andrewgabbott102
@andrewgabbott102 10 месяцев назад
Not a big fan of this album but Mr Tambourine Man on this album is my favourite version of this Tune.
@jupitermadcat
@jupitermadcat 7 месяцев назад
I love this album I might be in the minority? I don’t know, but I’m looking forward to getting the box set
@michaelstokes919
@michaelstokes919 10 месяцев назад
One of the few Dylan albums that I've never really explored. Gave the new version a listen, and enjoyed it a fair bit. I can understand how the arrangements and overall tone would of put people off at the time, but I think it's a lot easier digest now, especially when you consider how many different versions of songs he's released on his bootleg series. Not everything hits the mark, but there's definitely a good 10/15 songs that I like quite a lot.
@maggiebryan2355
@maggiebryan2355 10 месяцев назад
Dont se whathe problen was bob changes up his songs all the time ❤
@bwpm1467
@bwpm1467 10 месяцев назад
John, I think the March 1st performance of Love In Vain is the one originally released... the new (previously unreleased) one is the Feb 28th recording.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Yes I think I mixed it up there cheers!
@bwpm1467
@bwpm1467 10 месяцев назад
@@johnheaton5667 Which do you prefer, John?
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
i think i slightly prefer the unreleased one....he seems a bit nervous but is singing with emotion on both@@bwpm1467
@matttokley8215
@matttokley8215 10 месяцев назад
Hi John. Good video but I would have liked you to tackle the elephant in the room, namely that a 2CD version of the new set seems to be missing this time around, which contradicts the usual Bootleg Series releases. I for one cannot cannot afford the 4CD version! I should add that I absolutely love Budokan - it was the first Dylan album I heard so has always been special for me!
@bwpm1467
@bwpm1467 10 месяцев назад
It's not part of the Bootleg Series. The usual Bootleg Series formats aren't applicable here.
@matttokley8215
@matttokley8215 10 месяцев назад
@@bwpm1467 ah ok, still think it's strange that there's not a 2CD version though
@bwpm1467
@bwpm1467 10 месяцев назад
@matttokley8215 The original is a 2CD. How could they then release a 'complete version' also as a 2CD?!
@matttokley8215
@matttokley8215 10 месяцев назад
@@bwpm1467 is there not a two vinyl highlights version then? I believe there is....
@bwpm1467
@bwpm1467 10 месяцев назад
@matttokley8215 Fair point. I think the focus goes on vinyl and digital/streaming, these days. Not enough people purchase CDs now so I think they worry a lot less about providing for a decreasing market. All the effort nowadays seems to go into the vinyl side of things.
@stefanjonsson699
@stefanjonsson699 10 месяцев назад
The 75 and 76 tours was american affairs. 78 was a global affair. Promoter was new and a greatest hits and reworked versions of deep cuts. What to be critical about? Its just a great product.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
agreed!
@ianlaker9161
@ianlaker9161 10 месяцев назад
I've also owned the Budokan album since release when I was at art college. Although very accomplished as live performance I always thought it a bit schmaltzy and much preferred the rawness, urgency and immediacy of Hard Rain from a few years previously, even though the sound left something to be desired. I have to say I rarely play Budokan. Maybe it's time for a revisit.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
yes i thought the same but i am enjoying listening to the full concerts! It sure has its moments!
@robertfallows1054
@robertfallows1054 9 месяцев назад
I believe I have all the official bootlegs but I really am not sure about this. I’m 72 and I have followed him from when I was 17 but I really couldn’t reconcile this album with the 98% of the others. I’ve been able to get into self portrait even but this and the American songbooks albums are to me are not on my listening list. After your video I might give it a chance. Still it’s hard to reconcile a poet in a Vegas type setting
@67Parsifal
@67Parsifal 10 месяцев назад
Dylan’s atypical audience interactions during this concert probably reflect the requests of his Japanese promoters, who authorised his setlist, the only time (afaia) that Dylan has allowed himself to be dictated to.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Fair point but my only complaint about the set list is the lack of Street Legal material but it's perfectly possible he'd not written most of the tracks at that stage!
@benmeltzer
@benmeltzer 10 месяцев назад
Wait. The promoter told Dylan what to play? Was he paid more for obliging? Did he not have the same condition on future Japanese tours? If not, why in '78 but not in '86 and '94? Thank you.
@67Parsifal
@67Parsifal 10 месяцев назад
@@benmeltzer it’s documented fact that Dylan acceded to song requests from the promoter in 1978. No idea about tours after that.
@frugalseverin2282
@frugalseverin2282 10 месяцев назад
Upon original release I was disappointed with it after loving "Hard Rain". The horns, backup singers and flute were a bit off-putting. Now that I'm over 60 I can appreciate the mellow tone of the arrangements. Great song choices just jarring to my ears back in '78. I downloaded all 58 tracks from YT yesterday.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
i tend to agree that the 75/76 concerts were better but I am loving have these two full concerts on Spotify with not an extra penny spent!!
@craigb2971
@craigb2971 10 месяцев назад
I worked at the Bob Dylan 78 concerts at the Melbourne Myer Music Bowl in March of that year. I thought he was great live but on reflection, hearing this, I think some of the tracks might be a bit overdone. With the instrumentation I mean. However, overall they were great concerts and seeing Bob close up was special
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Lucky you :- )
@Ft.Gagiano
@Ft.Gagiano 10 месяцев назад
I remember reading somewhere that set lists for Budakon. Was promoters picks only. Since a pretty penny was paid for dylan. 99% hits. Sprinkled with dylan picks.
@tyronewhitehead3123
@tyronewhitehead3123 10 месяцев назад
Brilliant review
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
Well the only problem i have with the set lists is the lack of Street Legal material but I guess it was a bit early!
@robertmaitino5674
@robertmaitino5674 10 месяцев назад
It’s okay. There are some decent versions on this, but it’s too far too mellow. Bob is better live now than on this record.
@leongiovanni9902
@leongiovanni9902 10 месяцев назад
sorry for me it is a bit too much! Dylan plays vegas, ive had it since it came out, ive listened to it more than a few times, i want it to be good and grow on me. but it sounds like Dylan attemps Elvis at vegas but falls short greatly somehow.. the rearanging of all the sungs to an easy listening palletable format. and at times to over the top dramatic.for instance on "Maggies Farm". it feels so smultsy 70s. and at a time when punk had just been and new wave prevailed. then this. Of course the musicianship is very capable and polished that might be the prob here OK Theres maybe two or three tracks on here that lend themselves to that treatment. and i know that band loosed up greatly has the tour progressed. but i have to agree with most of the critics on this one. Nashville skyline and self Portrait had a similar critical mauling but both those albums have stood the test of time. for me Budokan and all the mid 80s albums after infidels are unispiring. unless you love Dylan for just being Dylan. Then anything goes.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
i have a soft spot for the Street Legal album so this is a good release for me albeit he may have been better later in the tour with more material from the album for starters!
@bradleysanders3645
@bradleysanders3645 10 месяцев назад
Unfortunately, this is when Bob started to go down in concert. Before the Flood was the peak for me live. This album was the beginning of the end (live) for me.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
well at least he had a voice here!! it's been growing on me and great to hear the full concerts note for note....pretty rare to have that on official release
@TZ1000-zu7ki
@TZ1000-zu7ki 10 месяцев назад
I've always thought the Budokan album sounds like someone singing Dylan songs who has a complete lack of understanding of the material or perhaps a deliberate parody. I've seen Dylan a couple dozen times, including December 1978 on this tour. I've always liked his revamping of the arrangements of his songs, but not those on Budokan. His band was stellar, but the arrangements they had to play were awful. Steve Douglas was one of the top LA brass session players, but his flute on this album is plain awful and schmaltzy. By December 1978 the worst aspects of Budokan's arrangements had been dropped and I loved the concert. Recently, I listened to the album for the first time in years to see if my memory of it was overly harsh. It wasn't. I own every album and single the man has released, including all of the Bootleg series and more than 100 actual bootlegs. At $160 for the CD set I don't think I'll be buying this new release.
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
i agree the box set is overpriced but free on Spotify I'll take it!!
@mountart2
@mountart2 10 месяцев назад
I don't Bob or anyone else reworking songs they wrote and re interpret them, but the new arrangements are just dreadful, as if a Dylan interpreter is doing Dylan in Vegas, except it's Bob doing Bob in Vegas. It was conceived as a money making cash grab tour and that it was. A shame they didn't release a live album from further in on the tour in Europe which were much better shows.
@andrewhenderson8320
@andrewhenderson8320 10 месяцев назад
Highway robbery
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
not if you're already subscribed to spotify mate!! i take it you don't much like it!
@mygicshow
@mygicshow 10 месяцев назад
That is one of his worst live albums that fucking saxophone drives me crazy
@johnheaton5667
@johnheaton5667 10 месяцев назад
ha! i get your point although i think it works perfectly on the 'Street Legal' album!
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