Boeing 747 Loses Landing Gear | Viral Debrief 

Every pilot is taught to increase the approach speed of a plane (even small private planes) when it's windy. I have forgotten the exact percentage of increase based on wind, but the information provided in the video is, as I noted, standard, varying of course for each type of aircraft.

@@jonshepard85 I wanna say half the guat factor. So if it's 15 gusting to 25, add 5 knots to normal approach speed.

Maybe you can leave some tips for 74Gear-Pilot on removing someone's tonsils or such. lol

Sometimes a passenger has had to land a plane, who knows that information might come in handy. Any knowledge you acquired is not wasted. LOL

@@ezell8884 only in Hollywood movies... you’re probably more likely to get struck by lightning several times than have to land a plane as a passenger.

Right? I was thinking the same thing as it looked like he was going for the road first, saw the lines, and then turned it over to autorotate into the field.

Yeah I was thinking the same thing he's probably not going to make it past the road, and risking hitting a car would only make things worse. Great quick thinking and execution.

I swear you can see the moment he decides, pulls the nose up just a hair to guage his speed/loft and then immediately dives left down left hard to get some speed/loft for what I'd guess is a little more risky (tempting a sideways 'crash' or rotor hitting the dirt, but way safer than eating some power lines.)

He didn't have the required energy to make it, so he didn't have that option, at all.

Im just wondering why that guy had a gun😂

They were shooting wildlife for fun because they are twisted and sick in the head. Humans are animals and wildlife, maybe thats why God decided to ditch the poxy chopper 😁😁😂😂

Not just that, but generally speaking asphalt holds heat better than grass and trees, and creates thermal pockets that provide lift. He may have been riding the thermal a little to slow his descent.

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Completely agree, the chopper was in no immediate danger requiring an evacuation. Also, not only would blade sail be an issue, but they were also on uneven ground, so one side of the prop will be rotating towards the ground. Passengers can lose all common sense in a state of panic and find themselves making moronic decisions. Always best to make sure everything is completely shut down and come to a halt before allowing them to exit in a situation like this.

Now try to wrap your head around this. Ground pressure exists. The actual surface footprint of the tires is roughly 6 sq ft per tire. In this video, that's 12 instances of 6 sq ft, or 72 sq ft. Roughly 300,000 kilos are being divided between those 12 instances. Roughly 4160 kilos per square foot. To put that into scale, the footprint of a standard cab pickup is roughly 175 sq ft. (7 foot wide, 25 foot long) and weighs roughly 2950 KG total (using a 2002 Ford F250 as my example) Now, that runway has to put up with a sudden shock load comparable to stacking 2 full size trucks on top of one another, and then have them hit 1 square foot of area... Not sure about that particular runway, but the regional here had to have 6 feet of concrete under the 6 inches of asphalt just to land the "puddle jumper" dash 800 turboprops. Just how deep do you think that runway has to be?

@@nunyabidness674😮

... and a takeoff checklist apparently, according to others here who pointed out a magneto switch oversight.

hey, this is my avatar. get your own, copycat!

I thought the same thing as I was reading your comment

The term "wind shear" uses shear as a noun, as in a type of force. This is opposed to a centrifugal force caused by a rotating mass.

@@Jukkala Thanks 👍🏼 Obviously, we all live on a rotating mass called Earth. Centrifugal "forces" are therefore very real in our daily lives, no need to explain. However, spontaneous local wind shears and downdrafts are not something to mess with, especially in small aircraft

I am a How to train your dragon fan, and to me, and many other fans, this means something else

@@berkiaskyclan2948 yep

The AR is the equivalent of gopros for some people.

Looks like they may have been hog hunting. I know they're a nuisance in some states, like Texas. Ranchers will let, or maybe even pay, these guys to come and thin out the population of hogs on their property. Some ppl shoot them and some ppl run dogs on them. I've never been for letting dogs get hurt for hogs, I'd rather just shoot the hogs with cheap ammo, if i had to. I can't stand seeing a poor dog get gutted.

Also how they made sure people stayed inside until the rotors stopped.

Is hunting from a helicopter legal anywhere in the US? If I were using a helicopter as transportation to a hunting site, the long guns would be in a case.

@@Av8or7 I'm not 100% sure on the legality of it in TX. The only person I know personally that's done it was flying with the owner of the property. The owner of the property owned the helicopter and has a helicopter pilots license. The owner/pilot is a Vietnam vet that flew hueys, and lives on a couple thousand acres in BFE Texas.

Good for You...way to go......but watching this channel and a couple more I will never fly again.......keeping my feet on the ground

@@haroldk724 Commercial flights are extremely safe and it is proven that more people have died in car crashes while traveling to the airport than have died in aircraft. The huge majority of aircraft deaths are in privately owned small aircraft. I don't know the exact dates but there was a 10 year period of time between 2009 and 2019 where not one person died in a commercial airplane crash in the USA.

i only fear when im not flying it, like driving if someone drives me i get violently ill and im so stressed

@@cherb23 at least you can avoid situations when you are driving yourself. I would never take public transportation, especially commercial flights, i dont trust them.

@@coffee8814 you can''t avoid anything when other people crash into your car.

The airport was Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK) which "serves" Boracay but is actually a good 40 miles from Boracay which is an island without an airport of its own. The runway at the time was 7175 feet long, which is on the short side but not extremely so, I mean, LaGuardia's runways are only 7000 feet. It looks like poor speed management to me and not having a stabilized approach.

@@alexmollen9339 Are you sure? It is the former Caticlan Airport that has changed name to Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) and after extending the runway it can actually take an A320 now, if handled with care. I went there once in the old days when you had to fly with an ATR42. I admit that judging from the surroundings it does look a lot more like Kalibo., but then why would Kelsey call it Boracay?

@@tommyrjensen A quick look at Google Maps told me that they would have ended up in the ocean at Boracay Airport (MPH/RPVE) at both ends of the runway. So definitely Kalibo International Airport (KLO/RPVK).

@@tommyrjensen it is definitely Kalibo. Air Phil Express was already rebranded to PAL express when RPVE was expanded to accomodate the A320. See also the terminal building a few meters from the runway threshold. Thats the terminal building of RPVK those days.

I hope the report also praised the pilot’s actions!

That is understandable. As an aviator myself, I know that some of the worst crashes in history were a result of miscommunication, or ATC errors

I thought you meant you flew a go around at first! 🤣 I was momentarily puzzled that you’d only learned from RU-vid what was going on before I realised you’d been a passenger!

@@moiraatkinson Same. For a minute I thought he myst have been the co-pilot of Flight 420 to San Francisco, if he learned about go-arounds from this channel.

​@@ImNotCreativeEnoughToMakeUser Yeah, the Tenerife disaster has been, IIRC, the worst by fatalities in history, and was caused in large part by a series of the ground and tower miscommunications with the flight crews. :(

@@cykkm Yeah, there is one I remember seeing a documentary on where a bunch of mishaps occurred all at once, leading to two jumbo jets colliding on the runway, as one was crossing, and the other taking off

I've flown with KLM many times and I have to say they have amazing pilots.

I fact-checked and found you are correct and it sure makes sense. 👍🏻

This was my first thought when I saw this clip. Glad to hear it was intentional. I suspect they knew the exact sink rate they could hit at safely. My father was a 747 captain when he retired. He was methodical and sharp and everything was intentional.

WRONG. He bounced, simply because the hyd problem he had meant that some of the elevator surfaces were not available, thus catching him out when he tried to do his normal flare. The slowness of the aircraft's response is not something normally practiced and therefore entirely excusable.

bullshit. See correct explanation from MegaWeebles below.

@@12345fowler I was listening to it live on BBC and SkyNews at the time. The thing was flying around for hours before it came to land. The crew said that they were going to attempt it before they did it. Their conversations with ATC were broadcast live at the time. You know you can disagree with someone without going all Rain Man. No need to swear.

That'd be a dope home tbh.

@@lydiamulfinger6781 hell yeah! But lets be honest....if I had one I would make it into a fucking paintball field and reinact Air Force One while playing the soundtrack from that scene! What?! Ok fine back to making a cruise ship a home...with a Titanic section were the hull has holes pop open and water.....shit

@@bsgtrekfan88 you should be a movie director

Then spend the next 15 years learning how to fly it :)

I remember reading that the 747's landing gear is built strong enough that it can land at max weight in 45 degree crab.

Any landing you can walk away from is a good one but a great landing is when you can use the aircraft again.

@@californiacastle i personally know pilots who were fired after these so called "good landings" - I would suggest rethinking that statement.

that's also said by NO ONE directly involved in the industry!

@@ghostrider-be9ek you make it seem like I was implying that every landing is a reckless and haphazard dive job. 1. Any landing that has the potential to be dangerous is good when you can walk away from it. 2. Any crash (landing) is good when the aircraft is salvageable. 3. Internet sarcasm or tongue-in-cheek, whatever you want to call it…it was an offhand remark not really worthy of anybody’s response. Take care.

@@californiacastle no, I take issue with the statement that 'any landing you walk away from is good' - given that I personally know pilots who have been fired for 'good' landings.

I've done my share of floating in Kerbal Space Program. Bouncing too.

He had a bad mag ground and it allowed him to take off with mags off. Vibration found the ground and lost the engine. He’s young and will learn from his mistake.

And his unique capabilities of not blinking eyes

Pilots ain’t got time to blink.

Concur. It’s just too bad his tail clipped the tree just as he was flaring. He probably would have not folded the skid gear on the one side. But, overall upright and everyone walked away. Good job!

I also love the bit where he notices his mag switches were off.

@@XLC-zd8dn my flight instructor taught me, "when the engine quits its the insurance company's helo. Damage shouldn't even be a consideration. Survival is the only thing that matters."

@@Cannon1221 - Totally concur. I just felt bad for the guy as he was doing such a good job and just nicked that tree. But, as the saying goes, any landing you can walk away from is a good landing. 😉

I’ve been an aircraft mechanic or a manager my whole adult life, and I never get tired of it. I think I have jet fuel in my veins.

A good auto starts with making sure both mags are on.... : P

@@tmanf22 Did he have the time, or the ability to take hands + focus off flight controls to actually do that? A good auto ends with everyone alive surely.

@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 no, but if he followed the checklist he wouldn't have taken off without both mags on and thus not crashing

@@thert.hon.thelordnicholson7261 It's fairly safe to assume the pilot was the guy in the right seat and the passenger in the left. We can also see there's no controls attached on the left so it is definitely a passenger and not a fellow pilot.

@@tmanf22 Fair point!

That made me giggle too.

Commercial aircraft: most data recorded on nearly indestructible "black box". Garage build: duct tape that Go Pro.

Doesn't sound like a great vacation spot lol

That is a travel pass I would wrather take a pass on...

Captain Kangaroo had to pay for one of them personally :D

But they got to log four landings in their log book.

Nope. You guys got it all wrong. The pilot had found a copy of Rhinestone Cowboy and after removing 19 years of dust he put it in his DVD player and didn't even blink for the next 2 hours. He then decided to enter a bull riding competition at the end of his next shift. So what we all witnessed was just a warm up practice session. That pilot has a right to dream, and who are we to judge? 😆🤣😂

These days you can boast My Dad flew VULCAN'S!

@Glow in the dark yes we were stationed at Lossiemouth and later Coltishall. He got up to some hair raising stuff I guess some of which im finding out sbout now.My sister had a flight in a Jaguar with him-not me I haven't the guts for it! I recall the Nimrod planes ,two of the first plane names I learnt were nimrod and lightnings (SO loud)

@@paintedblue1791 hey yeah, i loved that plane, used to see it from the playground coming in, and hear that sound and be like 'yay the Dads are back!'

Wow, lucky him, the Vulcan is such a cool plane

You'd fly with a guy who happily takes off with the magneto switches set to off'? And then sheepishly looks at the camera when he goes to turn them off after they've crashed?

Yeah Rob, took the word out of my mouth. I think he did a great job not killing them after, but he also caused it. Anyone can make mistakes, but thats what check lists are for. If you go by memory, you'll miss something for sure

More importantly he moved quickly to avoid the power lines lining the road. Would have be a sad ending if he'd tripped into those. ⚡

During the flight, the key was facing 2 o clock. After shutdown it was facing 10 o clock. You can't do a 90 degree rotation from off to off.

@@ovalteen4404 what are you saying? If you watch the actual video, you can clearly see the key in the same position after the crash as before he started his take off. You can see him switch it to off during his shut down procedure. He didnt have the switch off in flight, it was on a single mag not both, as it should be at all times unless doing a mag check.

~~Lol~~ 🚁

Pig shoots from helicopter probably

@@kevinfeeney7371 That is 100% what it was. I would bet good money that it is a pig shoot in Texas lol.

Yeah ive seen the original video post of that, was a hog hunt.

re: hog hunt. wow, how brave of those hunters - not!!!! 😼

generally, fuel is dumped at a high enough altitude that it disperses into the atmosphere and nobody gets misted. There was an incident over LA last year, though, where the pilot dumped fuel way too low and it did actually soak people that were outside, including a playground full of kids. But that was because they were not following procedure.

That was more what happened with that aircraft near LAX that dumped fuel at about 2500 feet. Usually they're 6000+ and over a relatively unpopulated area, it has time to evaporate.

When possible, they try to do it out over the ocean. Also, unless they are flying at low altitude, most/all of the fuel will evaporate before it can reach the ground. But yes, on rare occasions, aircraft have rained Jet-A on the world below. 😕

Too bad jet fuel is literally highly cancerous and you don't want to breathe it in or get it anywhere near your skin

@@thecloneguyz Isn't it just kerosene? When I was a kid we used kerosene lanterns on family camping trips. Maybe that's why my dad got cancer at 33.

WOW, thats pretty awesome to know someone who went into space.

@@74gear It really is lol. He was a pilot twice, commander twice, and spent time on space station Mir. Now he is in the astronaut hall of fame. Thank you for your reply. 😊

Im old but I love it , too. My late husband was a pilot and this channel is realistic yet fun.

@@djbeezy whats his name?

@@tisscience5693 John Blaha

No. It's acting. Helicopters don't fly, they beat the air into submission.

@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 no not beating the helicopters become good friends with the air and do many favors for it and once it has the airs full trust it social manipulates it into feeling bad for all of the things the helicopter has done for it and says that the air will be in no debt if the air gives it levitation as an ability this usually takes around 7 days and this process is called *Building the helicopter*

@@onewingedangelsephiroth1561 - yup, heard them all, including "a collection of spare parts flying in loose formation." My favorite being: Airplanes are different from helicopters. An airplane, by it's nature, wants to fly and unless interfered with too strongly by unusual circumstances or a deliberately incompetent pilot, the airplane will fly. A helicopter doesn't want to fly. It is supported in the air by a series of conflicting forces. Disrupt any one of those forces, and the helicopter stops flying, immediately and disastrously. There is no such things as a gliding helicopter. That's why, in general, airplane pilots are buoyant, clear eyed extroverts while helicopter pilots are brooders, introspective anticipators of trouble. They know if something hasn't happened, it's about to! Still, all things considered, that helicopter pilot did a good job. The aircraft but bent but everyone inside (4 souls I believe) walked away with no injuries. I'm not sure a light airplane in the same situation would have faired as well but that's just speculation on my part.

no it IS a rotor blade. different kind of air manipulation, same function

@@monavie9110 - I think you're really picking nits on this one. The rotor blade on a helicopter is an "airfoil" (wing) just like the wings on a 747 are "airfoils" and wings on C172 are "airfoils" and the wings on a glider are "airfoils." They all manipulate the air in the same way. Air moves faster over the top of the wing than it does below thus creating a relative low pressure area on top of the airfoil (ie: wing!) and thus creating lift. They all do the same thing. They are all wings and they all create lift. The difference lies in the fact that the wings on a 747, C172, or glider are all fixed (stationary) relative to the fuselage of the aircraft while the rotors (wings) on a helicopter are not and the helicopters wings are not dependent on the motion of the aircraft as a whole to generate left which allows helicopters to do the one main thing that fixed wing aircraft will never be able to do. "Hover!"

I was just about to comment on that landing when I saw your post. I remember watching it unfold on the telly when it took place.

Although, truly, when kittens 'crab' it's much cuter. "Look how big and ferocious I am!"

Perfectly good hog hunting day shot to hell! Welcome to Texas!

I dont know where you are but now the US carriers are all fizzed up about losing 5 percent of their workload because they cant schedule enough legal crews.

Outa my way shrimp.

Do we know each other?

@@brentbarnhart5827 I don’t think so

It was joke, I'm 5'11"

@@brentbarnhart5827 haha good one.

no but I think now I have to do it, next time I am announcing my flight on IG so you can listen to ATC I will try to slide that in there.

Kelsey: vee one, rotate, positive climb Captain: Gear up Kelsey: Gear........ coming up!

@@74gear You should do one of the voices for car navigation systems. "Right turn... coming up."

"Cargo 456, LA Center, climb and maintain FL 340." "Flight level 340, Coming Up!"

I'm about 0.9% sure that's in the AIM under Proper Phraseology.

Probably wouldn't have been able to reach it and still line up with the road. Auto rotations are very steep, especially if you take up a nose down attitude. My question is this, why did he fly it into the ground, he never slowed his ground speed with a flair.

Watched a vid about the development of helicopters. They were still VERY new and individually made and a man was trying to convince some rich people to invest. Final argument that swung the deal? "This machine is going to save a lot of lives."

As someone has already noted he probably wasn't sure if he could get that far. Also, dirt has a bit of "give" to it which helps when you have fixed skids instead of landing gear with shock absorbers....

@@rattler24 If he hadn't slowed his descent, they'd all be pancakes. Notice how not far off the ground they were in the first place, there weren't a whole lot of autorotation to work with, especially after eating up some of the speed to turn away from the road.

I thought of this too, I actually was shy to ask because I thought I must of missed a video of Kelsey saying that he will not do the view and guess anymore ,

I can only guess he was flying to much to the same destinations

@@coca-colayes1958 That's a good guess. But I wish he would at least tell us if that's the case.

Also maybe a bit of a privacy issue, as if he shows where he is regularly, someone might find out a schedule.

@@calvinstevenson2296 Yeah, but he films a few days early so he would probably be gone by the time his location was revealed.

Airliners generally do the countdown for you. There's an automated voice that announces 500 feet, 100 feet, then 50, 40, 30, 20, 10. And, if you're in an Airbus, it then proceeds to insult your landing ("Retard! Retard! Retard!")

aap 747 ke pilot hoo?

I’ll use it next time I hijack

@@vbscript2 He’s not talking about the actual Radio altimeter callouts, he taking about the mental checklist he uses on crosswind landings.

@@vbscript2 Yeah he’s not on about that. He’s saying when he’s counting down as he comes down, at 10 he applies rudder to come out of the crab.

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the video's in Kalibo RPVK

@@GugsGunny well that makes sense. RPVE’s clearway is water, not some rice paddies. Thanks!

Just curious if Kelsey showed the 777 oopsy and followed it with a 747 shine to throw a little dig at one 777 FO on YT?

thanks Pro, glad to hear it, thanks for watching!

Sank you very much I'm glad some body on this channel agrees with me and has the common sense to see exactly what happened . That's why he rode a wheelie so the gear would come down or give it time to come down . Thank you

Yes, I was thinking the same thing as well.

Was wondering about that but what use is the gear coming down if they are already on the ground?

@@rangerrick8220 it’d be for the gear which didn’t come down due to the hydraulics problem. The pilots might have thought that enough downward force would jolt it free

@@rangerrick8220 They might have done a go-around once the tower verified the missing gear coming down?