You boldly proclaim in the thumbnail “starliner is OVER”, then proceed to say In the voiceover “I don’t mean to suggest that there’s definitely a problem with starliner”. YES YOU DID. Stop lying in your thumbnails.
Fact: Starliner Was Neer Ready To Safely Launch From Earth Starliner Was Rushed From Their Own Pressures Of Being Far Behind Their Own Schedule & Others Way Ahead Fact: Boeing Launch Knowing They Would Have Issues Amounting To Gambling Lives Fact: Boeing & Nasa Not Able To Cover Nor Further Try To Cover For Starliner Fact: These Space Shorts Are Too Boeing Friendly """❣️""" """👍😎👌"""
Posters need to stop the BS and tell it as it is. Starliner is a failure, period. If I was the two astronauts who are stuck in space I’d say “Send a Dragon , we don’t want to try and die in the Starliner “!!!
it is baffling that NASA and Boeing had to wait until the Starliner was on space at the Space Station to do those tests. It looks like a proof of total incompetence. Why didn’t they do those tests with the un-crewed previous mission?
Gov agencies and gov-related corporations are corrupted and they are protecting each other. Boeing just go a slap on the wrist for vanishing 346 souls. No one is in jail. NASA sent the Challenger knowing about issues. No one is in jail. Criminals are managing these organizations. There is no wisdom there. We can't expect them to test the vehicle several times before sending humans up to space.
Let Boeing's record speak for itself. The only reason Boeing is still in the space industry is due to the no solo provider clause the government inacted. It is a good policy but choosing Boeing was their mistake.
Now is the time for NASA to switch to Sierra Space as the second manned flight provider. Boeing's management problems are showing up throughout their company. And Sierra Space have continued onward on their own. Plus a ride for Sierra Space may be denied due to ULA's Space Force contracts. They need support and be given a chance to ride into space via Space X. Sierra Space should not be continued to be edged out.
REMEMBER IT WAS THE ENGINEERS AT NASA THAT LAUNCHED A FROZEN SHUTTLE, AN DEORBIT A SHUTTLE WITH A HOLE IN IT KILLING BOTH CREWS ON NATIONAL TELEVISION, PLUS THERE CIVILIAN AIRCRAFT FALLING APART ACOSS THE SKYS OF AMERICA. BOEING IS FINISH.
Click bait, no new info here! Just bring Starliner home autonomously and then send a falcon 9 dragon to pick up the astronauts. Easy and safe yet none of you RU-vidrs have suggested it. Duh!
NASA's commercial crew programme manager Steve Stich must be held accountable if anything goes wrong with the helium leak on Starliner because he is always delaying any alternate ways to bring the astronauts back to Earth.
Yes, that has been my thinking. Dragon ride for the crew and bring Starliner back in auto mode. Save the data and figure it out before sending another one into space.
Testing those thrusters while docked on the spacestation could alter its attitude. This should teach Boeing that simulations aren't enough. All the testing being done now should have been done long before sending it to space with a crew. Dump the junk and send for Dragon.
@@michaelpettersson4919 No. This isn't about politics - it's about corporate Big-Shots and their egos. It's about favoritism for a company that has been a long-time contractor for the Dept. of Defense, is too used to bilking the Taxpayers the maximum amount of money it can steal, and has too many friends in high places. Why - to some people - is EVERYTHING about POLITICS?
they should ask the entire astronaut corps to decide if they should use the starliner for the return, include the retirees too . . . if they think it's too dangerous to use a flawed spacecraft then just don't. i know that astronauts have the biggest, brassiest balls but they are also realists and, i hope, wouldn't put two of their own at unnecessary risk.
I say it is time to figure out rescue missions. Twice, now, we have had major failures, Apollo 13 and Columbia. Once, they managed to hold it together and get back. You think accidents are not going to happen again?
Steve is confident that the astronauts they delivered to the ISS are not in immediate danger, but has no confidence as to how they can get them back, except to say that it should OK.
Start financially punishing Boeing instead of expecting the Feds to absorb the costs. If Boeing knew Starliner had these problems before launch, they should be liable for costs incurred.
Boeing is experiencing QUALITY CONTROL issues in all divisions, since bean counters and "professional" managers took over top corporate management positions. The luster of Boeing has dulled and is fading fast. If they don't reverse course soon, it is highly likely Boeing won't make it to 2040 or even 2030! They are failing in QUALITY in industries that demand the highest standards of quality products and services.
VERY DISAPPOINTED in your recent rush to CLICK BAIT. You title, as you used to do, about actual new events or news, then present old events or old news with a "back down" disclaiming statement or question. Or WORSE a compilation of re-edited clips that aren't even tied togeyher well or are redundant. If you have nothing NEW, say THAT up front or just don't post. NOTHING IN THIS POST is new or even different from the material previously presented. STOP WASTING OUR TIME!
That what happen when accounts run engineering firm. When it comes to management, no performance metrics can replace personal subject/matter expertise.
Easy solution! Send Dragon to retrieve astronauts , and try and land Starliner Empty, one way or the other, we would either have had alive astronauts, or NOT!
Manually flying causes excessive stress on the thrusters tells me that the capsule isn't and never will be safe for humans but rather autonomous resupply.
Elon... PLEASE... PLEASE.... ... Call this part of Space X "International Rescue" and name all your ships "Thunderbird X" starting, of course... with "Thunderbird 7" to rescue the Boeing crew.
If those brave astronauts try to return in the Boeing Starliner and it hits the atmosphere at the wrong attitude they will die,! Undocking Starliner uncrewed and having it do an automated return. Is the only way to see if it will burn up. This will protect the astronaut's lives. Starliner has a price tag, human life does not. Using the dragon for a rescue vehicle is a no-brainer.
How can it bring them home safely in an emergency but not on a regular return trip. Makes no sense. The “emergency” is basically a Hail Mary I hope it works.
Anyone posting and narrating videos about space and space vehicles, should have at the very least, a rudimentary understanding of the orbital physics involved in a de-orbit and stop spreading "folk lore". Objects entering our atmosphere at extreme velocities DO NOT heat up from FRICTION!!!!! Objects heat up from compression of the air, not friction. The same way ignition in a diesel engine is provided by the heat of high compression....the air in front of a speedy object heats up. Please, let's not perpetuate commonly held lies.
I don't think you want to @1:40 keep a fueled spacecraft on standby. Fueling up doesn't take anywhere near as long as it does to prep a vehicle. I wonder if it's even possible to keep a vehicle on standby, since several things such as the FTS have a very short lifespan and need to be inspected/replaced when they expire. Also the shape of the return capsule is designed to make it "self-orienting" @5:50, requiring only correct orientation at atmospheric insertion. The computers are in the return capsule, there is not "vital information" @6:39 in the service module - what's in there is all the bits that the engineers would love to get a look at to see why it broke.
As safety minded NASA is I was surprised that they decided to launch given the problems discovered on the ground. I wonder who got a pay out and how much. Something smells fishy.
Is NASA footing the bill for all this testing, or is Boeing? Seeing that Boeing received more for they're commercial contract than SpaceX, has NASA been footing the bill to fix SpaceX's few problems?
Remember that it's paid in milestones. NASA has not paid out the full contract value or even close at this point. NASA also did not pay anything for the OFT-2 mission that Boeing had to fly.
I don't see the crisis. I believe SpaceX has a scheduled launch to the ISS in a couple of weeks. Bring Starliner back without a crew, to see if the thrusters work. Consider it a test. I don't this should necessarily mean the end of Starliner, space is hard and Boeing is learning. Starliner crew gets an extra month or two in space. They're astronauts. Aren't they enjoying this experience? Bring Starliner's crew back in Crew Dragon. Doesn't it usually fly with a couple of empty seats? I'm sure this is oversimplification.
Let starliner come back uncrewed as a proof of concept for reentry. Put 2 extra seats on the Crew-9 dragon and bring the starliner crew safely back to earth.
For me the best thing for NASA to do is tell Beoing to bring the Starliner back - crewless. The crew will then go on a newly launched Dragon and return to Earth.
Boeing have been left in the dust as it relates to the many successful missions that SpaceX has accomplished so far with better tech. Bezos should stick with what they do well; building planes and military equipment. The company need to get their heads out of their butts and let SpaceX go to the ISS and rescue the two astronauts before it's too late to do so. On the flip side, IF Starliner is so safe for the astronauts to return, then why are they dragging their heels while attempting to save face with studies on this or that and not back on earth?! They are full of wishful thinking and self-reliance when it isn't necessary. I've noticed Jeff Bezos is unwilling to admit he and his team are over their heads in this field.
Keep a fueled rocket on standby? Nah. That's one of the least time-consuming parts of getting Dragon and Falcon 9 ready. And, um... while I love all things rockets, I am not a rocket expert.
That's not a funny "joke," and I'm certain Musk did NOT denigrate the skills of "old Engineers" - he has many of the best of them working for him. Old engineers are good engineers - it's a field where EXPERIENCE DOES MATTER. The problem isn't "old engineers," the problem is that they let go many of them, and replaced them with MBA's who were more intent on turning the company upside down to empty its pockets into the hands of people like their new CEO - who got a raise this year: DOUBLE his salary from last year, as he was restructuring the company to farm out projects like "Starliner" piecemeal, to various subcontractors - and now they are utterly confused about why they don't know what's wrong, or how to fix it, as new problems continue to crop up. This is what happens when competent engineers are no longer directly designing, and Quality-Control checking, their own, internal work.
It would be awesome to have the possibility to quickly launch a rescue mission at any time. That being said, I hope that Starliner's issues will be fixed and missions will continue, competition is good.
By the itme Starliner gets certified to carry a human crew again there will not be enough time for Starliner to complete 6 missions to the ISS before NASA gives ISS to SpaceX for demolition.
On the same tangent Maybe the CEO should be transported to the Space Station by Space X and then be on the starliner when it returns to earth. Bring our historic astronauts back on space X Crew Dragon.
The "more testing" is so much BS. Unless the orbiting team can disassemble the service module whilst at the ISS then the testing is pretty uninformative. Bring 'em home.
Since Starliner is 10 years late why has this testing not been done by now. Why are they testing in the desert where it is hot when space is cold and has low pressures. It should be done in high altitude or in special fixtures with climate and pressure controls. Maybe in future contracts NASA needs to make sure a board member of the company contractor has to be on the first maned flight.
NASA management says it's ok to bring Starliner back. They also said it was ok to launch Challenger when it was freezing cold and let Columbia re-enter after a foam strike, so there's that....
If I were one of the people who were sent to the spacestation I would be very afraid of the spaceliner to be safely 🙏 returned to earth and not die trying.
