Boiler Service - Ideal Vogue Combi Boiler Step by Step Guide - Leeds Plumber 

Cheers Allen Top video I like the boiler the display is spot on nice and easy

Great video Alan, Ideal Vogues are top quality, the display is particularly well though out on these.

I love your videos honest and quality education can't beat it Sir thank you. Hope Mrs H is getting better.

Cheers Allen. Nice to see a service from start to finish. Tomorrow is my final exams before I become qualified after 51/2 years of doing an apprenticeship.

Another top video Allen. You are so generous with the sharing of your knowledge. Thank you.

Excellent thorough service. Not normally seen nowadays . I'll be definitely be using the service bag idea for analysers etc .

An excellent Video you can definitely see the reasons for using pressfit when installing a new boiler.

good vid Allen, i love fitting these boilers i think they are the best on the market for build quality, ease of fitting and servicing and the display is second to none ps i also like the fact it has a pressure gauge on it.

Another great video Allen. I’ve bought myself a Vogue Max System 26 which I’ll be installing once the heating season is over. I can finally retire my faithful and reliable 30 year old Potterton Netaheat. Hoping to donate it to my local Assessment Centre as it’s a positive pressure fanned boiler as you will know.

Another brilliant tutorial Alan, lots information nicely explained thanks man you're awesome 👌🏻

Brill boilers. Just had one installed and got to say the Ideal Vogue is a quality piece of kit and worth the extra over the newer WB Geo line.

Really enjoy your videos , done a bit of plumbing back in the day so I am interested in the new ways of install and technology , keep them up . howy

Great video mate 👍 your videos are really informative and down to earth

Very impressive. Wish every Engineer was as thorough as you!

Omg I didnt realise you can get the gas inlet pressure and combustion at the same time Allen you are a DON thanks man

Always informative, learning something new everytime

great video and very simple explanation just little note on expansion vessel checking.I always first check with system topped up before pumping up air tu be sure rubber belly is healthy Again very nice and clean installation 👍

Another great video. Thanks Allen.

Thank you Allen, great for training, as always.

Another top show. Cheers Allen 👍

Proper safe and legal workmanship not the cowboys you can sometimes get - nice one Allen for sharing this top video

Outstanding video, your values and work attitude should be made compulsory across the trade. Thanks for sharing, already subscribed 👍

Love the cheeky drain off down the bottom Allen

Recently serviced one of these & was pretty impressed 👍🏻

Excellent video Allen

Great video again Alan

Brilliant video Alan thanks 👍

The Vogue is the Daddy of boilers, love em.

Great video! Glad i installed one in my house 👊😎

Excellent video really well explained

My boiler care routine involves thanking it for its hard work every time I get something from the loft and promising that I'll get it serviced next year.

Brilliant video pal keep up the good work 👍

Hi I saw your videos and I really enjoyed it keep up the good work. I have a Main Eco 30 Combi boiler I was fitted about 7 years ago, the whole pipe work is new and radiators. There is one thing that annoys me on my boiler is that when ever is ignites it makes a small tiny explosive noise you can hear it from far 😫 I have so far replaced the electrodes since it was old and bent (it was working but I wanted to avoid it failing), the heat exchanger was hoovered and the seal was replaced, the diverter valve and actuator was replaced (since a small leak damaged it). I have regularly flashed the water out using the drain point and running the boiler and keeping an eye on the pressure (the water is never too dark and flush it until it is clear water, I added some inhabitors, clean the filter out and took the air out of the rads, it is well balanced too. I had to pressurise the extension vessel which is good now, on the same time I took the prv out and cleaned it very little dirt on it it’s working good, I also cleaned out the part in which condensation and other dirt accumulate. There is one thing that annoys me on my boiler is that when ever is ignites it makes a small tiny explosive noise you can hear it from far 😫, you could describe it like a small delayed ignition 🤷🏽‍♂️ What would you recommend to check?

Another great video, thank you for your time!

Great video Allen 👍

Brilliant video Allen. I've got an ideal ISAR, it's nothing but trouble. I don't think I could ever go back to ideal. No matter how good they are now. Never in a month of Sunday.

Excellent video!

Good video appreciate it Allen. You’re diamond.

Top video,very helpful.Thanks

Excellent information video ❤️

Good vid mate keep it up👌🏼

Get a collapsible washing up bowl from b&m. Trust me you'll love me lol. Keep up the good work big al.

Great vid mate. My fave boiler to work on... Love the vogue 😃

Alan, i have messaged you before, about boilers, and the extension that we are having built right now, anyway the builders said to me you pick any boiler you want and we will fit it for you, so i chose the ideal vogue, i hope that your ok with that one as it now comes with 12 years warranty i am told,it will connect to 10 rads ,but we are just a 4 bed semi, and as a fan of you and your work i thought i would check out my decision with you before buying, Ps its not a combi, we have a 36/18 prelagged, Thanks again for all you video,s

Great video thank you 👌🏼

Nice to see a full service. I recently used a Kane 455 and found the printer was very slow. Your 456 seems much faster.

I've got the 458, my analyser probe looks much longer 🤔. Nice simple boiler to both service and install. ✋ Allen 💪

Thank you Allen, as per, great vid.

Thank you Allen

Great videos and handy to know if local plumbers may be bullshitting about things.

Great vid. Would be good to see servicing vids on other brands as well.

Superb

v good info..

Allen you said about efficiency level you can get that High by lagging all that press fit you can also get it higher by range rating it but I'm not sure you can with vogue

We always use a Henry when servicing

Really informative videos.do you do a earth loop test at the service? Get yourself a regin pump for the vessel's they have a really long hose on them.

Hi Allen, It shows very good customer after-sales service, but if I had been you I would have asked for two seals so that I had a spare in case another seal failed at a later date.

I still use my masters bag ever since I saw your video, changing from your little blue bg box, mines no where as clean as yours tho. Quality bag tho 👌

Hi Allen, have you had any issues with rain water in stormy weather being blown into the outer section/air intake on the flue on ideal boilers? I have an ideal vogue, with a horizontal flue. There is no white showing, it's all fitted correctly. It's just seems to be in high winds in a certain direction the rain is blown into the flue and drops to the bottom of the vogue and drips out via one of the holes at the bottom. Any ideas on what we can do to resolve, installer installed a cage over the flue which improved it but when really stormy we still get rain water in. Thanks - love the videos!

Hi Allen Great video. Did i read your anylizer correct as it appeared to show (21:44)on Max fire 159ppm of CO. Is 159ppm considered acceptable in the UK?

I have just had a gas service engineer at my council property ( a ground floor flat ) to conduct a service on my gas boiler. One of the first things he did was go into my bathroom he had something in his hand I asked was he looking for a plug socket? he replied no I’m looking for a window I was in the kitchen by the kitchen window he asked could I put a probe through the kitchen window. I did and told him that is the first time a gas engineer from his company and the previous company had asked to or did that. His reply was that they should. Put a probe through a window. Then moaning about the poor access to the boiler in the cupboard. he was going to report the poor access to the boiler. He proceeded to take the cover off the boiler and as far as I know, serviced the boiler. I was not paying much attention but did not see him check gas supplies to my meter as other engineers have done. The previous gas service company, engineers, would clean the boiler with a vacuum. The present company that service the boilers does not clean with a vacuum. On previous visits from this company, they have gone into my kitchen and checked my gas cooker This time he did not. While I was stood at the sink doing the same dishes, he came behind me, and I believe he took some pictures of the appliances I have in my kitchen. He was at my property, no longer than 40 minutes as I had time to do some dishes, boil the kettle and use my toaster he sent all done and left could I have some feedback please?

Alan you mentioned that the Vogue has all brass fittings. Is that the case with newer vogue boilers? I had a Worcester and the failures I have experienced are with plastic components. I will buy a vogue if hey still have all brass fittings. GREAT VIDEOS

Thought the whole purpose of these boilers was not to need an annual strip down unless you had a problem? Seems a bit overkill, and the cost of replacing the heat exchanger seals an unnecessary cost to the customer. That's what Baxi taught me.

Hello to all engineers out there, and again a massive thank you to Allen for an amazing and thorough video. I have a quick question how long does it take for a engineer to complete a full service? thank you for all your answers

What a piece of cake to service and a user interface that’s easy to understand, if the ratios need adjusting, is that done via the gas valve or board?

is 1 bar for the expansion vessel normal for every combi boiler of this size or there abouts? i have performa 28 and needs pumped up as pressure needle goes up when heating on

Hi Allen. What was the name of the socket set with the ratchet? Great video again really helpful thanks

Most engineers I see even on large contracts with councils. Never ever take the boilers apart like you are doing ,, most stick an analyser in flue nothing else. Job done. . No other tests at all. No wonder they do 15 a day.

Great video Alan. You seem to really like this boiler, did you not fit a baxi in the new house? May I ask why?

Hello, what is the name of the knife with a green handle, what do you use? I'm interested in one like this to clean the condensates. Thank you

hi alan,im getting one of these next month,at the moment we have a main eco 25, could you give me an idea what should i be roughly paying to have it installed in the same place, thanks

Can you press straight on to a drain off? Or is there actual press drain off fittings?

If that expansion has lost its charge in that short time I would say there’s a need for a extra expansion vessel on the system 👍🏼

Interesting that they use what looks like a rubber seal when I've had to change a good few vaillant/glowworm and they're graphite seals but using the same HE

Is there such a thing as Standard service vs Strip down service? If yes then what's the difference

Is pumping to 1bar always enough for heating circle's expansion tank?

The vogue is a great bit of kit! Always seem to get a higher co reading on them, any idea why? Have one in my own house set up with a nest very good modulation

just curious ,do you not check the new combustion seal for leakage with the analyser and ldf the gas seals that you disturbed and do you not use a torc wrench to re tighten combustion door to MI Tolerances ?

Hi Allen, do you gas rate on a service and if so do you put it on high fire to do that

Great video. Good for new gas engineer like my self. However on the reading the boiler ratio was 0.0017 and the max should be no more then 0.0008 can you please explain. Thanks Allan

New Engineer here, does the boiler needs to be firing to put in service mold or just calling for heat? Great video!

These videos are great! I was curious what was inside the boiler and how it worked. I have a Gloworm one, what is the buzzing sound it makes when you run the hot water? It sounds like a fan or maybe it’s the pump. It must be normal as British Gas service it every year!

Comparing the internal architecture of the Ideal Vogue, or a Vaillant or Viesmann..which are broadly similar in layout, plus the totally superb user and engineer friendly interface/controls on the Vogue, it just illustrates how far Worcester have fallen behind with their latest offerings that quite frankly look like bodge-ups compared to how well thought out the Ideal Vogue is. My customers love the way the Ideals tell them in written words, not codes or flashing symbols/lights, what the boiler is up to.

Installed a vogue, efficiency level at 15% all readings fine and flow temps correct, every see this issue before?

Nice video. Are you 100% sure they'll change all the parts for 10 years if you have it serviced? Pretty sure they'll change all parts for one year due to boiler warranty but after that any part will be changed unless its general wear and tear which absolutely ridiculous as what else can it be to cause part failure?

Nice boiler, great informative video. When buying one or these boilers do you need to specify Nat Gas or LPG so it’s fitted with the correct injectors? Or will it be self modulating?

Don’t know about you Allen but I love ideals for servicing there so easy also where did you get that tool bag from I want one hahah

In terms of the building regs, would the boiler service requirements on a lpg static caravan system be similar to the boiler service within a house?

Is every service you do a full strip down and if not, how do you determine if it is or not

Have you noticed the brown debris "coffee granules" are ferrous ? Also I have noticed haveing lower return temps seem to accelerate the build up. What's you thoughts on what it could be?

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That trap seemed very rusty. Strange. Those primary heat exchangers are made by Giannoni. Who make them for several manufacturers. But I'm sure you already know that. Looks like a 3 coil one. Unless you've got a clean system they're prone to clogging up because you don't get full pressure around each coil. The only reason Ideal are giving such long warranties is because of the bad name they got over the Isar models which were fitted all over the place under various grant schemes.

Quick question. Should you of done a gas test because a seal was broken on the gas inside boiler. Thanks

If the flue analysis results were correct you shouldn’t have stripped down the main heat exchanger chamber (stated in the manufacturers instructions). You can be doing more harm to the boiler in long term. I felt like you went overboard with that service. From removable of combustion chamber then the acid I was waiting for you to strip down the pump assembly haha. Fair play you seen very thorough and definitely not a cowboy so I can’t knock you for that. 👍

Hi - is the expansion vessel procedure compulsory on an annual service?

Prv discharge pipe wasn't sleeved through wall. It appears

I also don't change them every year, only the gaskets, some boilers don't have a hi temp gasket,. And grease em with silicone, stops any low pressure leak.

can you use press fit in inaccessibly locations

Hi Allen. Great videos mate. I’ve seen in a few manuals they recommend using white vinegar on that heat exchanger. Have you tried it? I’ve had a few of them heat exchangers recently that have been really dirty. Just wondered if it was worth doing?

It's always good to learn how boilers work and get serviced but it should only be carried out by professional engineers.Im really good at electrical,plumbing,and fixing really big diecasting machines with massive nitrogen accumulaters but I will never mess with a domestic boiler for the price of service it's not worth risking your and everyone's life.