Boimler's reaction is priceless. It's like first it's the shock of suddenly being somewhere else and then it hits him that he's in front of the Captain and he freaks even harder
Well what makes him freak even harder is the fact that he'd just been doing the whole Captain Kissy shit with Mariner previously and the captain caught him in the act there.
@@shadekerensky3691 More than that. When he learned Mariner was Freeman's daughter, he also learned that Freeman was so intent on keeping the secret that she'd court martial anyone who learned it. Or so said the holodeck extrapolation of Freeman's personal logs. And now he's standing in front of an obviously enraged Freeman after letting EVERYONE know her Big Secret.
@@noppornwongrassamee8941 Yeah, he knows he's screwed up and will be lucky if he's not in prison, in Starfleet, or doing the worse job on the ship for the rest of his life.
I actually like how his reaction isn't blackmail, resentment or even asking for a good word now he knows exactly how connected she is but just helping with the rule breaking because he has seen it does help people. If he had known in episode 1 this would have gone completely differently.
I feel like this is the first time we see Mariner genuinely mad. Like she gets upset, but hurriedly whisper-shouting for Boimler to shut up, it’s a different brand of anger that feels super real
She's scary when she's really angry. Remember the sickbay fight with Ransom? That was even worse than this scene with Boimler. She threw everything she could at Ransom, fought security and yelled :" I wanna dance in your blood !" 😁 A few episodes later she kept her word, as she bragged laughing to visiting captain friend Ramsey that she had put a scorpion in Ransom's bed and he had nearly died because of it. Wierdly, he never reported her for it or punished her in any way, despite not knowing who her parents are, back then.
@@CS-bu7lo Well, all things considered, he did stab her with "battle blade" and she didn't report him either. He said it himself, that was sure court-martial at the least.
The look on Tendi's face at 2:03 is priceless..... she looks like she's going to die from shock. The looks on everyone's faces are priceless, in fact. I love watching this clip.
Gotta hand it to Mariner, someone who believes in principle over bureaucracy is someone who should be captain. Reminds me of plenty of captains we seen for the last 55 years.(Pike, Kirk, Picard, Sisko, Janeway, Riker)
@@TheCastellan I'm pretty sure that was during Archers era back before The Federation was created during the first season when they met a pre warp civilization with two species with one dying of a disease and the other evolving. 1x13 Dear Doctor.
@@natekarpowicz7564 Like I said....it's a doctrine of moral laziness. Like what Einstein said...what's worse than evil is the good people who have the power to help....and do nothing. I would have kicked Picard in the hackey sack, as Dave Lister would say, after how Picard was like in Homeward, Penpals and so on.
@@TheCastellan the prime directive stuff is definitely an interesting thing, and whilst I agree helping a civilization is a good thing, revealing to them that aliens exist probably isn't, I mean look at humanity, we have so many people hating eachother because of tiny things like sexuality and gender identity, or skin colour or which lump of dirt owned by whatever government you're born on and so on, it's ridiculous and so long as that mentality exists in our species we shouldn't be meeting aliens. It's the same logic with star trek, they don't want to screw up a civilization by giving them any opportunities to find new things to hate or get their hands on technology they shouldn't have yet
Maybe this explains why Boimler got promoted, the Captain did say she'll get them off her ship and Boimler's promotion is the path of least resistance.
Ransom did say that Boimler is very promotable. So much so that he had a dilemma whether to promote him or Mariner (cause he lives to serve the captain).
that and Boim got caught that he was planning to blackmail Beckett to get away with stuff. That puts a lot of his future actions into a negative light.
@@targetseeker He wasn't blackmailing her......he just thought that Beckett can get away with the shit she does because the Captain bails her out.......which is both correct and wrong at the same time.
@@LordDarthHarry he was going to use that knowledge as an easy out whenever a screw up happens on his account. It's not exactly traditional blackmail but from Captain Freeman's pov, it sure sounds like it (she can hear Beckett telling Brad to shut it but he kept on talking).
To be fair, Mariner put Boimler through a lot shit, doesn't always take what he says seriously, and almost chopped off his leg. Karma is coming for her.
@@Grz349 Eh, he lead into her asking directly, and kept going when he noticed she was bugging about it (i.e, it really was a secret, and he was getting under her skin).
Me too, i kinda like Mariner despite her recklessness and her drunk atitude, so probably i will be dislike more, and tendi is my favorite character in this show because of her cuteness and kind atitude
These clips I see on YT aren't half bad, most of the time at least. I don't know, it's proably because I knew everybody was hating the shit out of it and it's cool to have a dissenting opinion and trash something that's praised and praise something that's trash.
I like that Starfleet has its own official line of art supplies branded with the Starfleet delta. I’m going to need a couple boxes of Starfleet-issue crayons and some watercolors.
@@1TW1-m5i I like the idea that there's a subroutine in there somewhere that demands the replicator keep its products on-brand. I imagine it does it for everything - you ask for a burger from the replicator, and it comes with a Starfleet delta embossed on the top of the bun.
@@tbotalpha8133 Wouldnt actually be too far fetched. There could be a system in place that requires you to buy a license before replicating brand products, which isnt really too different from how things are handled nowadays if you want to use or recreate products from another company that owns the rights on said product.
Some things are destined to be known sooner or later. When the crews found out that Mariner was the Captain's daughter, Mariner's character became stronger and it puts the entire characters in this show in the limelight. This mother-daughter relationship is much better and intense than the Crusher's
The editing in this episode was so spot on. They even perfectly cut Boimler’s scream of terror when he sees the captain. (And no it was not the channel that cut the scene, what plays next after is the opening scenes)
Coming from S2:Ep5 I can almost see the concern that Mariner has for Boimler when she knows her *compatriot* is getting himself in so much trouble. I also love that the second her mother is injured she almost completely changes and turns into what she’s best at, a champion for the crew.
ENT - Entering New Territory DIS - Discovering Insane Science SNW - Spock's New World TOS - Those old Scientists TAS - Those Amazing Stories TNG - The New Guys VOY - Very Odd Years DS9 - Deep Space Nine (this was the name of the station, so this is easy.) LD - Lower Decks (also easy) PIC - Picard In Control
I had a hard time believing it was the same actor as did the live action acting; they just don’t quite sound the same. Maybe it’s the effect of the animation influencing how I hear him, but animated Boimler just doesn’t quite sound the same as live action Boimler.
@@keirfarnum6811 The voices of animated shows are typically recorded in isolated sound-proof environments whereas live action features are recorded on a set where the sound dynamics are fundamentally different. As proof I offer Boimler's scream when Spock's experiment explodes. That's a sounds only Jack Quaid makes.
Loose lips sink ships, ding ding. Even if he thought the conversation was private, he heard what the captain would do to anyone who found out that secret. The knowledge made him scuttle his interview, and now he's casually bringing it up?
@@ooooneeee Yes.. but it's still something that shouldn't be discussed at all, let alone casually on a street corner. That's the kind of secret that is best held until such time as one needs a lot of leverage to get out of some deep poo.. not used continually as a shield.
He is casually bringing it while in a non Federation world with only Mariner and himself as witnesses. But yeah, not disabling communications before the "talk" was a mistake.
@@raistlin3462 to be fair as far as we knew the badge couldn't be used to spy on people, in DS9 taking the badge of was used to mean that a discussion took was taking place without starfleet's knowledge, by both Worf with Gowron and Bashin with the Admiral
@@raistlin3462 Not to mention the aliens that they are surrounded while being tecniclu awol. Would you think if someone would find out and thus blackmail the captain or even kidnap Mariner
Although Boimler only reveal to Mariner that he found out her secret that Captain Freeman is her mother, but the entire Cerritos listening to their conversation especially Captain Freeman who is really pissed off with all this. I don't know what happened after the screen cut to the intro but I bet Captain Freeman had some severe words with Boimler for finding out that Mariner is her daughter and now thanks to him everyone in Cerritos now know Mariner's secret .
Well that happens,but..umm.. _But WHY would that(Being the fact that Mariner is the captain's daughter,I may add?) be a problem then,honestly..? It's not like it was common knowledge or anything-Doesn't Starfleet ENCOURAGE something like that (you know-Families joining and fighting/operating in/within the ranks of Starfleet/the Starfleet Generation-thing,honestly-so..?!) in the first place? Why is that a problem,huh?_
I don't think Boimler's comm was open to the entire Cerritos, just the bridge, because they were trying to contact them to return to the ship. Those on the bridge who heard it probably leaked it and it spread like wildfire.
I honestly didn’t know that was supposed to be a secret until this specific episode. I thought everybody knew and we’re cool with it. Maybe the captain threatened some kind of punishment if anyone talked about it out loud. Oh, well...
You missed a lot of scenes. Literally boimler finding out the episode before on the holodeck the extrapolated from personal logs captain hologram literally went on a hell hath no bound rant and he biffed his interview. They mentioned keeping it a secret several times in the season.
while it may or may not be the case in starfleet, in a awful lot of real world militaries, its not allowed for someone to serve under their own close family. This is normally due to the risk of said family member giving you favourable treatment (which is obviously bad for crew morale and unity), or that other have the perception of favourable treatment (which is almost as bad). it can also cause the lower ranked person's to become isolated for their peers, if those peers start thinking "they're only here because they have friends in high places". thus, beckett might want to keep it a secret, becuase she wants to be valued on her own merits, and not written off as "just the captains daughter", to say nothing of those who might see her connections to an admiral as a way to acquire influence. careere
@@xerxeskingofking ""they're only here because they have friends in high places"" Well in this case "here" is in the lower ranks of a california class vessel, which seems to be kinda the unloved child of starfleet. As a fellow crewmember id assume she was being punished more than anything else with that kind of connections :p
1.) *_"It's always weird revisiting planets from the 'TOS' era."_** ~* See, that was a great integrated ST-reference joke. Taps against the _'Fourth Wall'_ without breaking it. Props to the writers on that gag. It is when the animators & writers take the [time + effort] to seamlessly weave ST-content/-references into the fabric of the show itself, rather than having the Mariner (&/or the other LD-cast) just blurt out various ST-references, is when ST:LD really shines as a *_genuine_* Star Trek series. 2.) [1:19] *_"We can hear you, can you hear me?"_** ~* I found that part a bit weak, ST-comms generally need to answered to establish an open line (like answering your phone). I would have changed it so Boimler accidentally taps his comm-badge when he takes off his uniform shirt and puts it down on the art supplies crate, and the line is picked-up (answered) by the USS Cerritos bridge. As a scene-edit/-corrective Example...? - [1:04] *__* - *__* - [Captain Freeman]: We still have personnel down on Beta III? Open a channel! - [Helmsman]: Actually, Captain... There is an incoming comm-badge signal from them..? - [Captain Freeman]: Put it on speakers. - *__* 3.) *_T-shirts and Tank-tops_** ~* Animation-wise, I am glad to be seeing Mariner actually having a tank-top layer under her uniform-shirt, instead of her brown/tan bra; and a t-shirt for Boimler too, of course. That clothing-detail (no undershirts) has been nagging at me since the Pilot-episode [ST:LD 1x01]. *;)* 4.) [1:57] *_Mom's Manual Override_** ~* Poor Lundy, taking an elbow & hand to the face in being shoved out of his station by an enraged Freeman. *;
WHOA WHOA whoa whoa whoa. D'you ever have one of those moments where you think, "How the Hell did I get here?"? Y'know come to think of it, my whole life has been a series of wtf moments
Lol, that was hilarious ! Both Ransom and the captain were fuming. Mariner, too. But his "hard" rant, later on, is even funnier, I spilled tea all over laughing...
I don't think that was right with the comm They contacted him he needs to tap his badge to respond yet they still heard his conversation Its like getting your cell phone being answered by the caller
Maybe the captains can override the comms. If you think about it Starfleet uses comms to track their officers. If a crewman gets captured and they can’t speak though the comm. the captain can override the comm and hear that crewman’s surroundings and with that info can save them
How combadges work was never consistent from TNG all the way up through Voyager... Most of the time they would tap them to respond and end a conversation... Sometimes they wouldn't ...
I hope we get to see that. Actually, the more I think about it, the more I think we probably will since it is only a matter of time until we get a Lower Decks time travel story.
as we saw in top gun maverick tom cruises character mavericks career was protected by iceman who became commander in chief pacific fleet (4 star admiral) you don't know how awesome it is when you can get out of trouble with something as simple as a phone call.
@@BurningFlamesofDivineDragon i would say that would apply to mariner. forget her mother being a captain. her father is a 4 star admiral... that's near the top of the food chain. all he would need to do is make a phone call and she would pretty much get out of most trouble.
Boy you can tell she surprised and gets angry."Shut you bleep mouth!!"Then youseethe captain just push a crew out of their seat.He was right to freak out.The one other person that can make his life a nightmare was before him!
it seems like mariner is not really close to the father. given that his job is a 4 star admiral in starfleet she has even more reasons to not embarass him.
Fun fact: That Bat'leth strike probably severed his femoral artery and he prob would've bled to death if they didn't transport him to the sick bay *_IMMEDIATELY._*
I mean, star trek medical technology can cure mild cases of death. Remember how often they have to "kill" somebody for a few minutes so they can lose a fight to the death by technicality?
@@cobracorporal6738 ~ *@J R* is correct. Both Mariner's and Captain Freeman's service-records would be more-or-less openly available. Freeman and Mariner were probably relying upon no one bothering to detail-check into it; meaning quiet discretion, rather than any active cover-ups (the latter would probably be against protocol/legality).
He stole the private logs of the entire crew to create a hologram simulation of the crew to help with his interview with the captain. Mariner turned that simulation into a holodrama to burn off steam. And Boimler learn the fact and how the captain ruin anybody who learns about it.
I goofed off on a previous job once. My coworkers were motioning behind me, but I didn't pay attention until one of my supervisors and managers were standing behind me watching my performance.
Never violate the Prime Directive. It always leads to worse situations down the road and greater destruction. Different tribes must work out things for themselves no matter what island in space that tribe my reside on.
@@goliathprojects7354 Yes, especially if someone else is calling you. Taht's like someone calling your cell phone and being able to hear everything you do despite the fact that you never answered.
@@shadekerensky3691 I suspect it was an override from command. They were leaving and knew they had people on the planet, tried hailing them. got ghosted, so they overrode the requirement to pick up. Or perhaps calls from the bridge always override everything.
@1:43 The minute he said that she should've rushed him & told him to keep his mouth shut and I should know I work for the state of Maryland under the secretary of the state. Anyone finds out that my mom & dad knows the secretary it will be the end of that.
That the captain is her mom shouldn't have EVER been a secret to Boimler. He has stated over and over and over that he reads all of the logs from everybody. The captain has surely logged about Becket a thousand times and the issues with having your daughter under your command. Boimler programmed the simulation of the captain, based on her logs, so the information was in there.
since her husband is a 4 star admiral (people sometimes forget just how high up this kind of rank is in the real life navies or fictional starfleet) it wouldn't be too much of a shocker if by using his admiralty privileges altered the records or classified certain stuff so freeman and mariner do not show up on each others records.
So why was Beckett so hellbent on no one knowing the Captain is her mom? They don't show this show here in Iceland, can only watch clips here on youtube.
No clue either but my guesses are: 1 - She wants to be the "cool" rulebreaker. Having a mother as a superior kinda undermines her rule breaking since there's no real danger in breaking rules if your parent is in charge of the ship. 2 - Suspicion of Nepotism (Boimler outright says they can break all the rules they want because here mother is in charge.)
I know this was 3 months ago, but basically it went both ways. Beckett wanted the freedom to break any rule she wanted without the expectation of being professional. The Captain did not want anyone to know she was the mother of the most demerited member on the ship. In this very episode, Beckett is constantly hounded by other officers who are sucking up to her so they can get closer to the captain.
