NEW T-SHIRT! teespring.com/... We have an inside look at the nasty bits of Ingersoll Rand air chisel. It looks good from far, but it's far from good. Long term projects here: / ave
You ever have those times where you are trying to untorque something and you put a cheater bar on it and it starts to come. "Oh, its coming, its coming, I think I got it. Oh it wasn't threaded..."
That's how I find left hand threads - Turn clockwise till it budges, wonder why it's not getting looser, turn the other way and it loosens instantly. Sometimes, if I'm very lucky, I still have a working set of threads afterwards.
You're luckier than I am. I've only ever cleared the lefties out of cast aluminum parts (belt tensioners, generally) and there's no coming back from that one. Helicoil time.
I used to work in the IR thermo king plant in Galway as a security guard. The workers only got 2 Guinness on break or I'd go down and whip them back to work
Step 1. Let's say that a lady has just given birth to quintuplets (5 babies), without a cesarean. Now imagine the apocalypse of her lady parts. "Tic Tac thrown down a hallway" won't cover it. Step 2. Attempt to get image out of head.
I found it interesting that they cast into the aluminum "oil daily" and then covered it up with the rubber grip so you don't see it. Planned failure mode.
Love the camera setup! As a photographer myself we know whatever works to get the angle and be easy to use, the sound dampening of the rubber band! Well done
Yeah they are brilliant in the workshop, but if you slip, she will tear right through any threads or aluminium components, here in the UK quite a few of the workshops have banned them
rick Yeah I know. Shitty electrodes stick as fuck to the weld. I beed to try the rutilen version. A lot of pros say bad stuff about the kind of electrodes i use.
You inspired me to work on my grandpa's old B&D circular saw. I replaced the cord and it runs like a dream. I cut some treated 6x6 posts with it today. Thanks AvE.
I actually grew up in a town with an IR factory (Athens, PA). They shut down in October of 2010 and laid off 131 people. It was quite a hit for a small community.
Thanks for explaining how this works! The high speed video was very cool too! I have an older IR air chisel similar to that one. It has served me very well for years! It's amazing how much power the air piston will impart to the tool bit. There are very few things that will withstand the full fury of this tool for long! One of my go-to tools for stuck, rusted, or stubborn things.
Nah the "flapping in the breeze like a mother of quints" has to be the funniest offhand comment he's ever made. Laughed so hard woke the wife and dogs.
I had one of those Ingersoll rand air hammers when I worked as a tech 30 years ago. Only change I made was switching from the spring bit retainer to a Mac tools retainer like the one this one has. Nice to know you can get them with this retainer included. Mind never let me down, ran good. Of course, I always cleaned and oiled it.
Ingersol Rand still makes quality tunnel boring machines. If you have 50 million dollars 1000 men and a tunnel to dig I would recommend them. Also if you buy a used one be sure to check for wear on the main idler spindle bolt on drill head number 47. Its not an easy fix like numbers 146 and 654. They put loctite on it and you will need to put an extension on your wrench or switch to a bigger 3/8th in drive. If you are not prepared to deal with loctite and that stuck bolt buy a different TBM. That and the paint seems to flake off one of the control panels so be prepared to send it to the body shop if you want that new factory finish.
Not really sure if there's enough meat on her, but when I was watching I thought you could drill it out the pivot hole, insert (glue in or interference fit) a piece of bronze/brass pipe, and then ream the inside of that pipe so you have enough clearence on the pin that the pipe acts as a bushing.
Thank you so much for showing us your set up I’ve always wondered it’s really weird now to know that it’s mirrored flipped. I guess you kind of build an image in your mind what the shop looks like after watching all these videos every time for so long.
Taiwan manufacturing - the terrible scary stories I can tell. (Note: electronics are good, everything else is hit and miss, but mostly miss.) Where to start: the bare feet in the cast iron foundry casting floor, the child labor, the “not my problem” approach to everything and many more. Warning: Most of my experience in Taiwan is with the cheap end products like those found at Hazard Fraught. I have worked in Taiwan on product lines which compare to Fill-Tea. Suppliers follow the same basic pattern. All experience was confined to years 2003/2004. Let’s start with dirty parts. In Taiwan manufacturing operations are jobbed to specialty shops. So as example to make a special threaded part, the bar stock would go to one factory to rough cut, put on a truck to go to another factory to be machined to length, put on a truck to go to another factory to chew multifaceted wandering cavities (aka: drilled holes) & drunkenly thread the craters, put on a truck to go to another factory to be shot peened with shot from the Metazoic period, put on a truck to go to the assembly house. Note no cleaning process. At none of these steps are any measurements taken or gages used until the parts arrive at the assembly house. Thus, because the lot size is 5,000 assemblies and the order must ship in 2 days, the inspection, if any, is subjective to the inspector whims. In the really good shops the part would be put in a trial assembly…but usually not. So, if the part arrives dirty to the shop, it is assembled dirty. There is not enough time to send the part out for cleaning. Plus, all the different factories have already been paid (wont ship parts to next factory until the current factory is paid). You would not believe the pieces of dirt, orange peels, condoms (used), betel nut (chewed and spit) plus other junk in assemblies we have received from Taiwan. Next episode: the self-hardening rubber or maybe the swinging QA lab ElWet p.s: I skip all the babying and skip straight to stage #3 red hot curses. Does wonders & blunders.
Mechanical synchronization at its best! Another cool thing is how mechanical governors on "old" industrial alternators are mechanically tuned with weights springs and speed. Im sure you love them AvE, as do I. However one of the benefits of electronics is the ability to change the frequency on the fly. It always fascinates me how engineers engine-inered components from shuttle valves, to my moms washer and dry timers, through gears and contacts. Many beers spent figuring out the port sizes and distance between them. TBH think about them two stroke diesels or your weed-eata. Cheers
I don't know about their air hammers or even their other impact models, but my brother and I both bought the Ingersoll Rand model 213 impact gun about 35 years ago and they're still working just as good as when we bought them. These guns were abused, I think I only oiled mine once since then, they've been dropped countless times, even left out in the rain; I even remember rain water pouring out of the air chuck. They just keep working, such an awesome gun!
I took one of those apart back in the 80's and it had metal particles inside of it too. Pre NAFTA. LOL. Yes, I took it apart to see what made it chooch. My curiosity started around age 5 when I broke apart a "Giant Horseshoe Magnet" to see what made it chooch. I got my ass in trouble for that curiosity. At age 6 I drew up detailed plans for an idea I had and excitedly explained it to my Dad. He congratulated me for reinventing the dynamo. He knew I was past the toy stage so he bought me electronics kits and models of working V-8 and Wankel engines.
i totally have the same appreciation for simplicity in machining that exist only through the ingeniousness which designed it . a better example old military gun parts . the shit amazes me
Send her to me, i fix air tools for dollhairs from my boss's boss. Cool to see you tear down something i've torn down something i've torn down a few times or two. The pistons are fairly soft-but they dont peen over or split chunks off on these so often as the guys who refuse to not dry fire the CP-4611 Rivet Busters (those are my bread and butter). These lil IR guns work pretty good on concrete, by the way.
23 years ago I was an Auto Technician, and I bought a cheap Campbell Hausfeld Air Hammer, it has lasted professional and home user abuse and it still rocks! I literally used it to knock off a frozen Bearing Race off my Daughter's truck, and now I finally need new chisels for it! That bad boy is all steel, no Aluminum or Plastic anywhere! It bothers so much where pneumatic tools have become!
I like AVE's genuineness appreciating understanding clever mechanical stuff! I about peed myself when somebody told me about ramjets and the Krauts V1 ramjet! Please take one apart!
Had an IR for years, it was ok. Switched to the Astro 4980 with the .498 shank and that sucker really hits. Pretty much the ultimate break shit apart air tool
I wore out several of those in my time remanufacturing clutches. Not to mention the rotary cutter and a dynafile. I love a good dynafile. Priceless when you need one.
I used to sell IR tools and I used to get them at cost. I actually was quite impressed with the durability when I was turning a wrench and using these things on a daily basis.
Thinking the same thing the other day. Finally got around to my motorcycle project and thought, now wtf did those pieces come from. I decided if I really needed them I would know where to put them when I reassembled the bike.
Or they are smart and build in redundancies. They know you're going to take the fuckers out, and then you're left with a few extras when you lose or strip the other ones.
Actually I have one of the exact same model, about a year old. For the money, I can’t complain about its durability. I abuse it regularly in a diesel and heavy equipment shop, and it’s still going strong, probably the elegant economy of design. Actually just used it today on some trailer landing gear bolts. A coworker has one over five years old, ~120psi used weekly without lube, still going strong. Whenever it comes time to replace it, I’ll probably get the heavier duty version of the same. Ingersoll-Rand is probably the best return on my nickel.
AVE, I work at an Aluminum Extruder in Alexandria, Minnesota. When chiselling a die clean we use an IR heavy duty. Trust me, no difference between the home gamer model and the industrial model. Same plastic bits where you saw them.
I want to see you review some Porter Cable tools. I have used a few of them for a couple years now and would like to see your input on how well they are built.
MyuFoxable not as good as the ones twenty years ago... they work, but are fairly light duty at the end of the day. On the other hand, they work pretty darn good (20V lithium series) but I somehow suspect that parts unavailability or overpriced obsolescence (batteries and chargers basically) that essentially ended the careers my 19.2 volt SawBoss, 19.2v 1/2” hammer drill, etc. won’t be what ends these new 20V lightweight tools careers. They will just break...and die. And not be worth fixing. I have 7 different 20V PC tools and two chargers from two kits, total investment US$240. That’s the price of one new 19.2V charger and one battery replacement for the 20-year-old stuff.
Awesome video, I love the explanation of how they work, very similar to a paintball gun for anyone who has ever used those, plus there's many animated gifs and videos on how a paintball gun actuates.
I use a chicago pneumatic air hammer in the 1/2 inch variety to chip off armor mounting blocks on AAVP7A1's and after a half a bottle of loctite it has been my go to for all sorts of jobs.
The piston in an air tool is considered a 'wear item' so it's usually soft as hell and made to be replaced in 2-3 years. Same what with your concrete jackhammers and rebuilding them. First thing to go is always either the latch or the piston.
Tis the territorial call of the frustrated engineer. It's most commonly heard at the very end of projects when time is getting tight, or at the beginning when consulting with clients who make demands which are physically impossible.
I'm watching this video saturday night at 8:46pm eastern time (-5:00gmt), in Tampa Florida, about to get slammed directly by a category 4 hurricane that will engulf almost the entire state... and here I am watching AvE, he starts talking about the beauty of fluid dynamics. Yeah dude... fluid dynamics are something else lol.
I know I'm late to the party but.... thanks for this video. I was able to salvage my old air hammer that had been buried in the bottom of my tool box. I almost bought a new one.
Never got *deep* into mine, but it's probably close to ten years old now and still chooches like new. Only maintenance done is external cleaning and every couple years I'll put a tank through with some citric acid in it to kill the wee beasties and dissolve any scale. Sucker's old enough that I think the capsule needles have gotten dull, getting harder to close and you can hear the foil tops pop. But what got me to comment... does not sound like a jet engine. Sounds like a fog horn "ooooEEEEEEEooooooo"
I have that air hammer and it still works to this day. I bought it 4 years ago and it still has plenty of ads behind it. I use it to drive pins out of steer cylinders on fork lifts all the time
now that setup has your name written all over it,. i spent like a week binge watching all your videos!!!! the G/F would come down and hear you talking and say AGAIN!!!!!. HAHA love your content SIR!!!!
I think I'll only be buying used tools from now on... Everything new seems to include a healthy level of "mineral content," and be made entirely out of whatever garbage was laying around the factory floor
I know this is an older video, but 20 years ago I bought a Florida Pneumatic air hammer. It is the hardest hitting hammer I’ve ever used and it’s been in heavy rotation in a Class 8 truck shop for all that time. And half of it is plastic. It does have a tendency to shake itself apart so there’s that....
Holy shit, i can't put into words how much I love the shock mount for the microphone... It took me a minute to catch on to why it was dangling from a rubber band, but when it hit me I lost it.
I worked for an Ingersoll-Rand subsidiary. I noticed none of our factories or prototype shops used IR tools. I asked why once and people's response was that IR tools were too expensive and you could get much better quality for less money.
"...even though it looks really schookum on the outside, the innards... never lie" Are you giving relationship advice now? I thought this was a tool channel.
