[Props man tries to attach antlers to a mouse] Props man : I can't get the antlers glued to this little guy. We tried Crazy Glue, but it don't work. Frank Cross : Did you try staples?
I ain’t touching one of those things. If the wife ever found it, everything outside the house would be covered in tinkly winkly Christmas lights in 30 minutes flat.
I worked in a furniture factory. I've fired damn near a million staples while I was there. You couldn't get me to touch either one of these things. You can't beat a pneumatic staple gun. It's not portable but I have seen them run pallet loads of staples with little to no problems. The BeA staplers were the best then Senco followed by Bostitch I used in the years I worked there. Side note we even had one that was fully automatic. It would put your tiny box of staples into the pallet in a minute or two. A stick would take about 25 seconds.
Different needs, great in a static position but if your sheeting up a new build with no power or air, or working up on a roof you ain’t dragging no compressor around, They have a use for sure, but yeah in a factory like the furniture or packaging stuff windy staples all the way
I do some work for a sofa manufacturer and the workers there fire those pneumatic staplers like machine guns. I reckon they probably fire around ten staples per second at times.
I just bought a pneumatic one. You don’t know how bad arthritic fingers can feel until the wife hands you a multiple kitchen chair upholstery job. That old Arrow is like torture when you fire a few hundred staples.
My father and I put up a trellis for my mother that was going to require a couple hundred staples, so I bought him the pneumatic stapler. He thought jt was super easy to use by handing it to me and grabbing a beer.
I generally try not to use my fingers or forearm, if you are pushing against something solid just push down on it as far back on the handle as you can and it makes it a lot easier. Does not work for sticking targets to cardboard though. Course how else are you going to tighten up the stranger?
Working in the cabinet industry, I use pneumatic staplers and nailers with the "safeties" removed. I can hit a target over 50 feet away with some decent acuracy!
How is Arrow still selling these? I thought they were just passed on from father to son upon achieving manhood all the way back from the time of antiquity?
I bought one a little while ago, I think they're only on the shelves to let you know they're still in business. Utter garbage, wouldnt even fire 5 staples before jamming.
I have 3 generations worth of Arrow staplers. Mine from the 90's, my father's from the 70's, and my grandfather's last one from the 50's. They don't get passed on untill after you needed one yourself and manned up and bought one, but eventually a man gets backups and ones to keep alternately loaded from the earlier generations.
I've inherited two that I've been using for the past 15 years and never thought about buying a new one... I think you've got a point here. Probably just the old ones that will last three lifetimes.
For optimal stapling I'd suggest to get 4 of them along with some spare batteries and make every day "bring your kid to work" day. Use two at the same time while your kid reloads the ones you're not using, you'll be the fastest stapler at the job until some jerk comes up with an even faster higher capacity pneumatic one.
LOL - I have a manual stapler, but also two airguns that shoot staples. One is wide crown, the other is narrow crown, and the narrow crown doubles as a brad nailer. Prosumer tip: If your better three-quarters ever asks you to replace the upholstery on the dining room chairs, you are going to want a pneumatic tool! That, and wiping up "dribbles" will get you to damn near 40 years of marital bliss, in my experience.
@@arduinoversusevil2025 And dribbles, but the man who doesn't do that is either a liar or blind. As our forefather's have spoken since the dawn of time, "I don't see anything."
@@nottelling6598 One of the rules I actually passed on to my son. If you dribble, get a little bit of toilet paper and clean it up. AND then put the seat down (this is not worth arguing over. Happy wife is a happy life.)
@@bryanwinsor9392 Nope. I remember being a kid and moving back from the "target" and still hitting it. I'll pee outside before I resort to the setter option. But if you are keeping the wife happy, your methods aren't mine, but that is the main aim in life!
We don't have feds, we have Royal Canadians Mounted. They don't shoot daggs, it's not effective. They engage a more passive aggressive policy: encumber you with byzantine paperwork. It's our right as subjects to roll over and die; peacefully.
It’s true they never really do wear out. My Arrow stapler was my grandpa’s along with a bunch of other tools and he passed away in 1982 Old Skool tools were built to last a lifetime, or two.
Correct~ I have 2 Arrows' a T-25 and a T-75 that I used on the job for 40 yrs. and now have them at home since 2001 and use them all the time and still going and so am I at 74~!! If a man can't squeez a stapler it's time to check out~!!!!
I think rust might be the only thing can actual kill an Arrow stapler, and we'll of the tools rusty that's your fault not the manufacturer. Unless your buying those pre-rusted tools that the Chinese Cheesecake Factory sends over here via sampan.
@@meatsmell8639 I mean I know what they look like, but I still like hearing about sintered metal gears and SCHMOO! Nice fawkin' name btw there bud. Bolth of ya's. There's a rendering plant around the way, and apparently a northern breeze this eventide. So I am indeed getting some permutation of a foul goddamn MEAT SMELL, and it ain't pleasant. Would actually rather hump a rock.
If your doing more than 4 get the battery stapler, I've done millions of them with the old style, now I have nerve damage no felling in the hands, can't squeeze a medium sized paper clip with my right hand .
I’ve got a bunch of old tools that used to belong to my grandpa including an ARROW Hammer Tacker. He’s been gone since 1982 Old tools were built to last a lifetime, or two.
I've been using this in my mobile upholstery business for over a year now and works amazing! super reliable and has cut my job time in half. worth its weight in gold.
honestly I might get one of these. instead of squeezing that damn handle every time while holding it above your head when you're putting up an entire attic's worth of fiberglass insulation, it'd be a hell of a lot simpler just to pull the trigger. this goes for stapling down flooring underlay as well.
For a professional, especially one who already has the big red's batteries, its not a bad idea. Just keep a manual on hand as a back up or for the apprentice.
Been there. I have one of these, and I think you're gonna love it. Goes pretty far on a 2ah battery. No problems driving into 40yr old southern yellow pine.
I watched your video and continued on through my RU-vid feed. A couple videos later, I noticed that my mood had changed. I was having a very bad month. The kind that makes you think too much. Laughter is the best medicine, and watching you put that thing together wrong multiple times without bitchwhipping it against a wall, lol. I wanted to come back and thank you. Really, I mean it, thank you my guy. You affect a lot of people in a good way. I'd say your being is fully Justified at this point.
I love mine.. "killer app" of a tool. The time and energy the Milwaukee saves, means when I wear it out I will happily buy another one.. It is a hands down no brainier... at 120$ its "cheap" from a labor/time saving perspective.
Milwaukee wins yet again just replacing my 12v multi tool after 5 years of dust and trade torture, all my other 12v is still kicking and only recently replaced some batteries that’s bloody amazing looks like I’ll add one of these to our kits too
Those old Arrow staplers are a lifetime tool. Dad's got one of them that I can remember trying to use, with all my weight and both hands, at ten years old. He still has it. Still uses it. I'm 45 now.
Hey for those who havnt discovered them, forward action staplers are the best manual option. Instead of the hinge being on the front of the handle its on the back so you can just lean on it pushing the stapler to the wood and the staple into it at the same time, no more squeezing.
the secret of stapling thousands of times with a manual stapler without clapping out your tendons (though no matter what you do you'll still end up with a grip that can crimp black iron pipes) is not to squeeze with your hand as much as you use your arm to push your palm into it. that's the difference between a survivor and someone who's gonna end up with RSI also, why not throw the toonies at 'em. make it hail!
@@SuperAWaC Not true. Try stapling the cover onto a motorcycle seat with a curved plastic base (how they are constructed from new). It's a massive pain in the wrist with a conventional stapler. Also it's quite common in furniture for coverings to be stapled to quite a narrow frame so you can only rest the front of the stapler on the work piece.
Crapsman makes (or made) a reversed manual stapler, think it's called the Power Shot. The squeezy bit and the pokey bit are on the same end so that one can just press it onto the workpiece and fasten away. A little smarter design, I think.
about pressing the switch everytime. can you hold the trigger down and use the hall effect sensor to trigger a projectile? edit: nevermind, i need to save my question till the end of class
It's a good point though. It's exactly how roofers/builders spit nails into roof shingles, felt membrane, siding and the like so fast, just keep the trigger pulled and use the safety pin on the front to trigger the mechanism...
As you wear out, you learn to appreciate technology. When the Arrow gun came out, you know there was some old codger(like us) that said, "What's wrong with your hammer and bag of staples, it'll never wear out" lol
Those old Arrows do wear out.... Detroit Police range. You think 200lb shop gorillas are tough on tools, try giving things to 200lb dumb door knockers. 😄
Yep, actually replaced mine with the dewalt "carbon fiber" one. Still cheaper than electric but wow it was way easier to drive and the weight was great becuase I was stapling over my head for hours.
Tell them boys at the gun range to get a can of 3M spray adhesive, that works so much better for paper targets, and you can put new target right on top of the old ones then when done just peel them off all at same time.
I use a Stanley sharpshooter myself what operates from the angry pixies coming directly from the wall socket. No safety interlock, no batts to run dry when chasing down indolent coworkers sneaking a smoke when they should be hanging drywall. You’re only limited by the length of your extension cord, which is true for most of us.
We need to see how far they shoot across the room and high speed photography of the projectiles in flight. You know you want to override that safety mechanism, partner.
While it's open, you should 'hot glue' the "wall sensor" in. That way you can shoot staples around the shop... That's 1/2 the reason of having a staple gun!
I literally just bought one yesterday to help a buddy hang insulation in his house. And it also rapid fires. You don’t need to pull the trigger each time. Just hold that trigger in and go to town
Worn out, no, but grandpa had one that the spring broke in. But some miracle, he found replacement parts and rebuilt it. Still got it hanging in the shed.
I bought a pneumatic stapler a few years ago.... that thing changed my mind on the old tank arrow stapler I had used since the first time I pinched myself with it in my Dads shop.
I flip houses, and in my case at least, the perfect compromise is the staple hammers, especially the ones Stanley make. essential craftsman did a video on them and he was completely right in calling it an elegant tool, compleetly battery free, but you can use one all day every day with very little strain
Milwaukee seems to be making some quality stuff at reasonable prices. Their Fuel line seems to do better than the average consumer junk, and now their random shit seems to work good too.
Used Milwaukee, Arrow and a few pneumatic staplers when I used to do leather interior trimming on cars, the pneumatic won hands down for punching power, the Milwaukee was a decent tool to have in the van if we were installing out at a client’s house, the Arrow was the reliable tool we had for when the compressor was being a finicky bugger. The Milwaukee was good for inaccessible little places that you couldn’t press too hard (thus making the Arrow a tricky one to use) and a hose attachment made it tricky to manoeuvre the pneumatic stapler. We were lucky to have bosses who equipped us with decent kit and who appreciated that battering us physically was not the way to earn our respect!
I have a product I make that involves a lot of stapling. Was no time at all before my wrist and forearm made it clear to me that I required a modern electrical device for this purpose. No regerts.
I know the feeling. When senpai finally recognize me, I took a damn screenshot of it! lmao I'm sure he gives 'em out while on the shitter, so it warmed my heart to know a chortle echoed out in the throne room. :P
We used that stapler for firing up aluminum plates for in floor heat, the guys never had one jam and it punched through that aluminum no problem. I would highly recommend that stapler.
I've had one of these for about a year now, it's seen plenty of use and it's still working well. I prefer a pneumatic one, but for odd jobs / when I can't make too much noise / when I'm working on site this thing is great. Trigger worried me too initially, but so far, it's still playing nicely.
After doing low volt for about 3 years, I finally wore out the spring in one of those T50 staplers. Granted, it would still give her hell on treated lumber but couldn't do anything to that damn smart siding.
You can tell a T50 veteran - it's the guy that can hit someone in the nose at 15 feet. When they complain "that almost hit me in the eye", you know where the next one goes.... (no I don't shoot twice unless they have their safety marglasses on...) For me it was years of competitive shooting, walking down to post targets, you find that the other guys doing the same are the best targets. We emptied many sticks of ceiltile Arrows walk downrange and back, bummer when you get down there and you got 1 left. I quickly learned to tape an endmill tube with an extra stick on the stapler. Too bad they didn't have these years ago, I often thought of converting a 120v solenoid version to capacitive discharge, but alas that was before cheap chinese smps angry pixie booster modules too. Thanks for the deep dive on the Milwaukee machine. A bit overdone me thinks.
I’m a huge fan of my air powered guns like that but the compressor is so f’ing loud I can’t work late in the night on projects at home and a battery would be nice.
I replaced my '97 Mitsubishi Montero starter with an original Toyota starter from JayAy-Pan . . . . now she starts right up, first turn every time . . .for the past 20 years.
@Graham Stewart Interesting how after age 40 I started to care about that stuff... I can officially say I am no longer bullet proof and making a grunting sound is now mandatory when standing up. I'd type more here but my wrists hurt ... you know.. b/c its cooler today and its raining...
Really its a choice between carpel tunnel or not.. and believe me I like the old school Arrow staple gun, my dad grew up across the street from the Arrow staple factory in Saddle Brook, NJ.. so we had several of those old arrow staple guns.. and they still chooch.. Yea there is a definite devious teaser at the end of that video..
ABOUT THAT GUN , i own that stapler over 3 years now ,we do work on festival build ups ,we can shot 500000 staples in course of 5 weeks ,,,in past we used pneumatic narrow crown stapler , but almost every festival, gun died (everytime striker bend,shatered .we even tried with expensive ones (senco ,,expensive in uk) but didnt last long neither ...we gave try to those staplers.....they are slower ,,but because staple is more wide we use less staples as they have more surface to hold fabric, so in the end they are more or less same "fast " as pneumatic gun but without hassle of compressor and generator (remote work often in field) my personal gun shot more than 4 milion staples, only thing i done to maintain it so far was wd 40 in striker ,and magazine latch wears out (due to rapid loading ) so i had to solder small ball to latch to keep it in close position (1 symptome of latch problem is firing couple staples in 1 go), ps, you can use bump fire style with that gun ,triger pressed and use contact tab to fire
Wasted my machismo for too many years running a manual T50 stapler. Got old and finally bought a pneumatic Arrow T50 and quit cussing and pulling errant staples that missed or failed to penetrate. Precision tools that do the job right the first time are gifts from the gods. Don't wait to get old before getting smart, kids. Jess
Seen rusted staplers used on sports fishing boats to label tuna. If they are stuck from the rust, the deck hands just hammer it on something. That gets it working again.
I remember when I was young and in the Marines I got stuck on a shit detail building target frames at the riffle range for a couple weeks while I was between classes training to be a radio tech. After stapling a few thousand staples manually stapling cheese cloth to wooden frames my hand was swollen and done. I had to switch to left handed action for awhile to let swelling of my right hand go down and vice versa until my class picked back up. One of the shittiest jobs I ever got stuck on.
I own this tool , we use it to fasten plastc lattice panels to azek , the amount of effortless work you can do vs using a manual stapler, there is no contest, great tool !
Yeah I’ve seen staplers wear out. Convention center I work for uses staples to hold the vinyl top and colored skirting onto the wooden tables. 4-6 guys working an 8 hour shift to get all the tables done and setup. Every year we have a dead stapler box with 20+ worn out manual staplers in it. The worst part for them is after the even they have to pull all the staples out. Real crappy work, but before covid hit it was at least stable.
You know as a product engineer there's no better award than being given the Cockford-Ollie from ole Uncle Bumblefuck. Those guys are high-fiving the shit out of each other right now.
I’ve got one of these, and a fleet of the manual whackers of various forms. When I moved past the 5 decade mark a number of years ago, just the act of squeezing those handles became painful. When I had to put up a bunch of house wrap, then to make it worse, about 1100sq ft of overhead vapour barrier (alone!)... this milwhacky was a life saver. Well, a hand and arm saver. Btw, if you just pull and hold the trigger you can bump fire it. Less wear and tear.
Sure I’m not the first, but you can disable the safety. That battery makes the range way better than the corded jobs my bro’s used to have staple fights with. Up until my dad stepped on one bare foot. That was the end, in general. Things got fuzzy for awhile after that.
The two pins in the gearbox attachment remind me of the old b&d 3.6v nicad electric screwdriver we had for working on our machines at the laundromat my family owned when I was a kid. It was supposed to.be this whole tool system that never materialized that supposed to be able to be swapped by pushing those two pins out and attaching a different gearbox output