Bonanza (TV-1960) THE APE (S2E14) 

Oh brother!

This is actually somewhat copied from the story " of mice and men" Good book.

It's like the dude was the inspiration for the Incredible Hulk. I wonder if there was a big dumb stupid smelly wild man back in the old west that was the inspiration for that poor big dumb ape? He's kind of like a football-playing, or basketball-playing jock today, with no way to release his agression and nobody to keep him from doing something stupid.

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hoss

#hossisfine

@@pappy451 it's HOSS with a capital ( H ) take care October 31,2021

So was aArnie, who was actor Cal Boulder who was in the second season episode, of the Original Star Trek series, Friday's Child as Keel.

Poor Arnie I know how he feels

Exactly

Had to love Hoss Cartwright. He was nothing but a gentle giant.❤️

Right up to the time Hoss was holding the gun behind Arnie as he spoke about the farm and the pigs......

But with Mr. Spock in the old west.

I'd say it is completely inspired by that source. No question about it.

Guess John Steinbeck wrote this script ? Lol

That’s what I thought about when he held the gun to him

I have to admit I love it to. At times some people can't take jokes. I knew of a person who was like that. In arnie case some men can't take rejection

It's like the dude was the inspiration for the Incredible Hulk. I wonder if there was a big dumb stupid smelly wild man back in the old west that was the inspiration for that poor big dumb ape? He's kind of like a football-playing, or basketball-playing jock today, with no way to release his agression and nobody to keep him from doing something stupid.

And one of the best tv fight scenes of all time. Love that opening between Hoss and Arnie.

Mini Vegana....Of course when one truly loves animals, they won't kill and eat them. Unfortunately, that is not the case for many animal lovers. Love one animal, exploit the next, is the modern philosophy of humanity.

People are very cruel. Hoss was he's real friend.

@@ziggyschumann5284 TRUTH.

She was too much of a spiteful cow to see anything outside of herself.

I'm a black version of Hoss. Hoss is one of my favorite TV big brothers too.

You do realize that isn't real, right?

Hoss was definitely onto something, I'm a grizzly bear 🐻, not like poor big Arnie, but I understand.

Oh get over it. Did you see the arms on that BIGMANFUCKER ?! Jeezus.

Outside of Spock, it's the best piece of acting I'd ever seen from Nimoy. He's amazingly good here. No trace of Nimoy himself in this character at all.

Mines too.

Fascinating. I find that quite logical.

@@wiseguymaybe Must have been the mind meld, I had the same thoughts.

@@mwilliams1330 😆😆😆😆😆😂Thanks for the clever comment. You made my day.

@anthony gomes just say thank you

doesn't seem like Nimoy has been gone since 2015. If he didn't smoke, he might still be here.

And Mr. Spock there didn't help at all.

@@li8363 The dark side of Spock!

@@Squirrel36 You ever read any of the WHAT IF comic books? Some speculated that Spock, by his mothers side, was related to Robin from BATMAN AND ROBIN because Robin was Dick Greyson and Spock's mother maiden name was also Greyson.

He was born about 800 years too late. Dude belonged on a Viking ship.

@@li8363 Never seen them.

dems fun facts!!!

Wow obsessed much lately..lol

I remember one show when Hoss got shot, and he was convalescing at home in bed. Doc asked him if he felt hungry. He got an enthusiastic "Yes!" and Doc said, "Okay, something light." Hoss: "Yeah, somethin' light, like a big, thick T-bone steak." Doc: "Something light, like chicken soup." Hoss: "Ugh."

Now if the show was made the Cartwright boys would be married to the Barkley boys.

Sounds like a good afternoon at the Ponderosa

Kaiju in action

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Yeah, unfortunately at that time the best someone like him could have hoped for was to be institutionalized in some poorly managed asylum.

@@yellowblanka6058 is it much better today....?

@@stevebishop9468 I'm going to assume you're not being facetious, yes, it is MUCH better to be a mentally handicapped person in 2020 than it was in the 1800s/turn of the 20th century, it's not even comparable. There are group homes/government assistance/the general public attitude towards mental health/handicap is generally more enlightened.

@@yellowblanka6058 i suggest you visit a few of the remaining mental institutions...then make a judgement

@@stevebishop9468 Modern mental facilities, at least in the US are by-and-large much better than they have been in the past, and in the time this episode was set, somebody could be institutionalized for a relatively minor mental health issue.

Really? I didn't know that. Thanks for the info. I thought those actors were gone.

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Outside of his Spock role, I think this Bonanza episode is the best performance I'd ever seen from Nimoy. He is TOTALLY un-Nimoy!

The actress who played the saloon girl was Stanley Kramer's wife.

Cal Bolder was his screen name. Real name: Earl Craver. Nimoy playing a scumbag here was actually par for the course before/outside of Star Trek. He usually played bad guys. Bolder starred in Jesse James Meets Frankenstein's Daughter, a real turkey of a flick. In this TV episode and that movie, he played the Mongo type character well. IRL, he wrote at least one novel, and was a police officer for a time.

I know. There's lot of people in the world who just don't have anyone - family or friends. It's soul-destroying because humans are social animals. They don't do well alone.

@@CathyKitson Wise words. So true. We are pack animals and don't do well without the pack.

Life's lessons

too bad hoss stunt double was clearly smaller.

It's like the dude was the inspiration for the Incredible Hulk. I wonder if there was a big dumb stupid smelly wild man back in the old west that was the inspiration for that poor big dumb ape? He's kind of like a football-playing, or basketball-playing jock today, with no way to release his agression and nobody to keep him from doing something stupid.

sheriff Coffee killed her

@@flyone8350 how?

@@flyone8350 um. No.

No-one deserves to be murdered.

Thing vs.Hulk!! 😉😉😉!!! Lol!!!

And by adaptation, you mean they both have a big, dumb guy. Did you know Night of the Living Dead is an adaptation of Frankenstein, too?

The time spans here are 6 years and two years ago . Looks like there's some knowledge here of literature maybe literature by the famous American authors. I'll say that the hulk is a blazen shameful ripoff on Dr Jekyll n Mr Hyde. Never watched Blazen Saddles though . Arnie here bears a slight family resemblance to Burt Lancaster. Clearly arnold Schwarzenegger based the early launch of his career on Arnie in this episode which also served as an excellent smoke screen to his early woeful acting but the script writers and production standard wasn't much of a quality either, and even Schwarzenegger himself became known as arnie in later years to continue as the terminator the killing spree commenced in this episode. Spock as part of a time travel team from the enterprise are making observations for the sake of correctly calibrating the space time continuum in order to avoid paradox anomalies so that terminator Arnie will succeed in the mission to save all humanity.

I am jealous of your wife to have a man like you!

@The Veteran . . . yeah i caught that instantly . even said out loud " ding " .

Hmmm. Well spotted.

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Nothing ever works out for the Cartwright boys does it? Every potential relationship/opportunity goes sour. Guess they had to justify keeping them on the ranch.

You're comparing a television show to the real world? These plots are formulaic and designed to run within a 42 - 45 minute time span, excluding commercials. They have to set up the scene, introduce the protagonist, antagonist and supporting cast plus have a resolution or climax within a certain time, which is why her personality seems difficult to believe.

Don't forget - she was being advised by Mr Spock! .

Of course there are lots of people like that.

The saloon girl felt like she was a loser because of her social status (or lack of it) and was taking advantage of an opportunity to rain down abuse on someone even she could look down on. I think it's as simple as that...I've seen so many people with those kinds of attitudes towards others. THEIR life is crap, they know it, and they jump on the opportunity to tear someone down they view as more vulnerable or even more worse off than them. Basically, they're bullies.

Bonanza is very contrived. The girl had to be as horrible as possible to get Arnie to kill her. Although there are some very horrible people out there in real life, too.

Nah..he would make a hilarious pathetic cry for help instead when he found that bitch dead in her room because of what Arnie did to her..lol.

Amen.

a shave and a bath , new clothes and boots . and a new hat .

a bath, a top hat and tails, some dance lessons and he could have been like the monster dancing in Young Frankenstein.

The scrip didn't call for him to do that!

Good way of putting it.

I think the root of her anger was her social/economic standing too and Arnie being who he was, considered such an 'undesireable' man by the town, and being so infatuated with *her*, triggered her anger and contempt even more. She felt degraded and powerless that she was a 'saloon girl' in the first place and even more degraded she was attracting the attention of a man considered that undesirable. As wrong as those feelings were, I got the impression that's how her character was thinking. She was taking out her frustrations on her failed life and dismal social status on this guy who didn't know what the heck was going on, only that a pretty woman was talking to him. The whole situation was sad. Arnie needed training and discipline from a family member/friend who cared about him long before he lost all control of his emotions as an adult, and the saloon girl needed to stop abusing this random dude because she was desperate for a power trip stemming from her own raging insecurities. Really thought-provoking episode, I enjoyed the performances a lot!

@@RETROGEMS I think she was just a vicious, mean person. There are plenty of people who have it even worse than her who are compassionate and kind. Obviously he should not have killed her; he was a murderer. But he was just as much a victim as her, maybe more so.

Are you a bimbo just after a man's money like Sherry was?

Hungry Dragon, Leonard Nimoy had a small bit part in the 1950's "giant ant" sci-fi classic, "Them!" (So did Fess Parker, who stole the movie. I heard that Walt Disney saw FP's small performance and said, "There's my Davy Crockett!" The rest is history!

T'was

@@anonymousanonymous9366, you try typing that after seven beers.

Lois - Hehe. Arnie wasn't QUITE as big as Kong.

If the commie liberals were in charge they would let Arnie go.

Arnie couldn't have survived being locked up. He KNEW that, and committed suicide rather than die a slow agonizing death. Exposing himself like that while threatening with the log brought him the final peace.

Yes, this happens at 41:49 in the current upload.

Yes your right how did sheriff coffee find out where hoss was going? ben didn't say a word about it, guess he just jumped the gun a little bit

Yeah, I noticed that right off. Lol.

GeorgeBonez Ya I caught that😎

I picked up on that too.

Despite the vulcan mind meld helping with the Horta, I don't think it would have helped Artie. I think Spock would have been upset if he mind melded with the bar maid.

Grendelbc wow! do u mean Ken Waller the bodybuilder ?

Yes but this one has Mr. Spock in the old west.

And maybe a bit of King Kong.

i made the same connection

He was eavesdropping on Hoss when he told his dad is what I got out of it

Had a bloke that big really punched Little Joe, Joe's body would have slumped to the floor and his head would have been splattered all over the wall at the far end of the bar! .

Just saw her in rawhide watching old esposide she was beautiful then still beautiful in her 70