Bond Arms has done a good job of offering lots of different variations of the classic derringer. The Stubby model should work great for pocket carry. Thanks for another great video!
Just watched this. You had me at "Bond Arms." Well, that and also southpaw shooter. Bond Arms, because I grew up on a farm outside of Granbury, where these are made. And because I I've owned a Bond Arms Grizzly Bear (from the "Rough" series) for about 2.5 years. And southpaw shooter, because I are one, too.
That's cool. I was looking at those as well as the normal sized ones at the FFL a couple days ago when I was waiting on the background check for my Taurus TX 22. I was thinking to myself, I would maybe go .380 ACP or 9mm even in the regular sized one so I can get at least some barrel travel.
Good to see here Sam. I hope you do a full review on the TX 22. I know you will shoot the crap out of it. I like my .22 Stinger model more, but this is a cool little novelty.
I really like that they shortened and lightened the basic design BUT cutting down the barrels instead of making new barrels or at least attaching a proper front sight is just not right. At the very least they could have milled off the sight and added a propper height site with a dovetail or screw for very little $ per gun
i really like my original gen2 b.a. derringer with a 380acp barrel, which is nice combination of caliber and handgun size. i tried a thinner 22lr stinger but hated how it felt in my hands.
all pistols should shoot high out to about 20 yards with the zero about 20 yards, its based on the flattest trajectory curve, if your a inch high at 20 yards not bad but several inches high then maybe a bit to high, in general its better to have a little hold under then hold over, with hold over at long distances gun and shooting hand block your target causing you not to have the best hold possition since target is smaller and blocked by gun and shooting hand, if a pistol shoots spot on a close range it means there after a massive drop out from that point, even though the pistol is for up close and personal and defense situations are mostly with in 7 yards its still good for a pistol to be set from factory for its optimum flattest trajectory wich is about a 20 yard zero for most pistols from 600 to 1000 fps same as a pellet gun at those velocities and another example is my 400 fps target pistol pellet guns, flattest trajectory is 10 yards optimized for hitting 1 inch bullseyes in competition, to set a kill zone trajectory based off a target you want you divide the target size you select and divide by 2 so a 8 inch we get 4 inches so having the flattest trajectory a bullet should not shoot any higher then 4 inches out to your target on a center hold, the problem is we cant have long range and flat trajectory at the same time so sights adjusted on a pistol for long range is a bowed trajectory for targets closer in, if not adjustable sights its all hold over and hold over but all not fixed sights on pistols from factory shoul be check and verified for its flattest trajectory curve so that way in a self defence situation you aim for heart and hit it out to 20 yards with hopefully no hold over or hold under
@@professorpewpuew now that surprises me that it would recoil less... I guess the bore height and reciprocating mass (or not) make the difference. Interesting!
That sucker is larger and heavier than my P3AT yet has shorter barrels, somehow. When I was first starting out as an FFL years ago, I would buy those Cobray .410/45LC single-shots and sell them for $5 more than I paid to get them to me. This was in Alaska and people would use them as fishing guns. You don't need to shoot the bear, just shoot your buddy in the knee and he'll scream so loud the bear will eat him while you run away. Anyway, buddy of mine wanted a .22 Magnum derringer for kill shots on halibut and moose. Ended up selling a bunch of those. Forget the brand, but it was pot-metal cheap. The only derringer I own now is one of those .22 lr over .410 cheap ones. Just a last-ditch gun.
I don't have a P3AT, but this derringer is physically smaller than my LCP but slightly heavier loaded. I like that they are making truly small derringers but I prefer higher sights that I can use.
I think I'd rather carry the LCP with 11 shots of .22, with its risks and disadvantages, versus 2 rounds of .380 with manual cocking before and in between.
The Bond Arms Stubby .380 has the following dimensions (based on their web site): Length: 4.5" Height: 3.75" (had to dig for this) Width: 0.88" Weight: 13.3 oz P3AT clocks in at: Length: 5.2" Height: 3.5" Width: .77" Weight: 8.3 oz These dimensions are significant to me. Length is really immaterial, but the gun will ABSOLUTELY fit into my pocket and is lighter, even loaded, than the Bond Arms. Not to ignore the chance of a malfunction for the P3AT or the fact you have to cock the Bond Arms and the sights suck. Frankly, I've shot about two or three magazines a year out of my P3AT for the last decade with Hollow Points and FMJ ammo and only had one or two failures the first range session. Keep it maintained with annual cleanings and shooting my carry ammo to load fresh ammo. Done. Just a few dust bunnies. I'm on my way to trusting the Ruger LCP Max. Still hard to give up on the P3AT though.
I imagine that was the intent. While I like useable sights because everything else I have use conventional sights, this is a true backup piece in the classic sense.
If that's all you want to use it for, then yes, but you might have to take aimed shots at longer distances against a variety of threats. Dogs, snakes, two-legged game, etc.
@@professorpewpuew Exactly. If your "big gun" has run dry, or you can't get to it first, or if you're just running up to the gas station in shorts, these give you some kind of defense.
