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Boris Giltburg teaches you Ravel's Alborada del gracioso 

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0:00 Intro sequence
0:28 The catchiest place we all loved as kids
1:53 Practice not practicing double glissandos
5:11 Relatively easy repeated notes
7:21 A grotesque, theatrical coda
9:01 When song interrupts dance
11:43 The end is nigh
14:10 One last hurrah
16:40 Performance of final section
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Комментарии : 111   
@evennorthug2585
@evennorthug2585 Год назад
What an intriguing piece, presented with charms and energy, and so vitally performed. Bravo!
@tomowenpianochannel
@tomowenpianochannel Год назад
Very interesting to hear Boris speak about the piece. Great advice to learn the 'start' point and 'finish' point of the glissandos. This advice can be applied to many 'difficult' sections, which is to learn the extremes, the key chords of the passage, and map the important markers without all the flash. Then your hands and body already recognise their position, and you can later fill in the gaps. Also great that we have a superb modern pianist actually taking time to teach people in an open video, which was never undertaken by any of the previous generations. Kudos to him for posting this.
@Skyflairl2p
@Skyflairl2p Год назад
If i ever stop practising on my own (which i have been for a few years now) and get a teacher, i sure hope he's like you. I get easily hung up on technicality and lose motivation when I get stuck for longer periods, but this way gets through the piece while still retaining the crucial information on how it "should" sound as you move through. Truly inspiring. Thank you! Now, I realise there is only one Boris Giltburg in this world but one can dream haha - I just love how he expresses the music with words.
@scottderrick8166
@scottderrick8166 Год назад
Excellent presentation and demonstration. Well done! Thank you!
@AbeKenney
@AbeKenney Год назад
I love his attitude and enthusiasm! What an amazing song!
@GrotrianSeiler
@GrotrianSeiler Год назад
This presentation was AMAZING! Wow
@not_areadname
@not_areadname Год назад
Thank you!! Your sharing is so precious. Some of the techniques and experience I have never even heard about them. French composer has the hardest work!
@AzizAbwah
@AzizAbwah Год назад
I started to love this piece because of him Thank you!!
@bachlivepiano3158
@bachlivepiano3158 8 месяцев назад
What an amazing and generous pianist!!!
@Clown321321
@Clown321321 Год назад
A real pleasure to watch, even though I'll never be able to play this I really like such deconstructions! Thank you!
@TS90111
@TS90111 Год назад
I played this on one of my undergraduate recitals. All of this advice is 100% spot on.
@kostasaxillios3003
@kostasaxillios3003 Год назад
Great video! Technically, the first and third parts of the piece are extraordinarily difficult, but the middle part is very strange musically, I wish you could tell us more about it!!!
@stynway59
@stynway59 Год назад
To me, the middle is the song, the alborado. It is emotional and pleading. if Ravel wasn't just playing with words and sounds in his titles, as he often did, the morning song of the jester is coming from the bottom rank of a royal household, for whom he must gear up and perform to, every day. The beginning and end are the pageantry outside his door, which he triumphs over again for that day. Maurice maybe had no such idea in its composition, but this was always my experience of this.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
The middle is, in fact, the alborada (or "a song of lovers parting in the morning") and the Gracioso is accompanying himself with Spanish guitar strums (:
@widerhorizon
@widerhorizon Год назад
Great piano teacher& pianist of our time:)
@MathieuPrevot
@MathieuPrevot Год назад
Great video and content ! It's great to hear this quality on YT :)
@myhumbleopinion1036
@myhumbleopinion1036 9 месяцев назад
What a brilliant performance by a brilliant performer 👏👏👏
@bjornviir3333
@bjornviir3333 Год назад
i was patiently waiting for a good tutorial, wow, got one from the master, I love his Carnaval and Rach.
@heimannmiriam
@heimannmiriam Год назад
Dearest!!! You are amazing!!!! Thank's very much indeed !! Abrazos desde Brazil⚘
@josefwinkler9189
@josefwinkler9189 Год назад
You are one great teacher; a pleasure to watch and listen too! It is not always easy to articulate technique and intent as well as you do...kudos and bravo to you.
@seancloser
@seancloser Год назад
Love your lesson. U cover everything.
@manganexum2
@manganexum2 Год назад
Fantastic pianist!!!!
@jdandrews4975
@jdandrews4975 Год назад
Having performed this many times on many different pianos throughout the years, I can tell you that the success of the glissandi and the repeated notes all depend on the easiness or sluggishness of the action ( and also a bit on having a good technician present ). Especially if you're wanting to play the repeated notes softly and quickly at the same time, as many of them are marked to be played in this score. An additional problem with the glissandi is the smoothness, or lack thereof, of the surface of the keys. I had the misfortune once to play on a beautifully restored 1893 model A Steinway that has the original ivory keys. The ivory was very hard to slide/glide over. In fact, when just playing with only the fingertips in any other passage, you can feel the slightly rough, dry ivory sticking to your fingers, and can even hear a squeaking sound as you pull your finger from the key. The front and side edges of the white keys were also quite thin, and therefore somewhat sharp. A single note glissando was doable, but only if the hand was held just so, and if the pianist has an ample fingernail. Dipping even slightly too low caused cuts in the cuticles from those edges. So you can imagine what a double note glissando was like. And yes, as has been mentioned below, measure 210 should be A# on the grace note just before the second note of the final quarter note duple of that bar, and additionally, in measure 212, the final descending diminished arpeggio begins on the F# grace note, not the A above it as is played in this video. But still, many good ideas presented here!
@rodrigolandaromero
@rodrigolandaromero Год назад
Ah yes, I have a 110 year old Steinway with ivory keys: I know what you mean. I can’t tell you how many times I’ve destroyed my finger’s skin playing octave glissandos. It is true that you shouldn’t practice them that much.
@ciararespect4296
@ciararespect4296 Год назад
All depends on the piano and action I agree
@TheSonsofHorusx
@TheSonsofHorusx 6 месяцев назад
I’m decades away from being able to even approach this piece, but still fun to learn and listen to this charming man
@Shost7
@Shost7 Год назад
Great ! 🙌
@stevenbeer6005
@stevenbeer6005 Год назад
Wonderful!
@CARambolagen
@CARambolagen 9 месяцев назад
Great! Thanks for breaking it down!
@fabfreebird1
@fabfreebird1 Год назад
this piece kicked my butt in my 20s!!
@rayhardin1066
@rayhardin1066 Месяц назад
Bravo!!!
@MaximilianMKGill
@MaximilianMKGill Год назад
Great video I was just listening to Boris Giltburg playing Rachmaninoff.
@paules3437
@paules3437 Год назад
I only discovered him a year or two ago. I think he's sensational.
@republiccooper
@republiccooper Год назад
Excellent!
@craigrenoe4065
@craigrenoe4065 Год назад
Fantastic!!
@marekvollach7831
@marekvollach7831 Год назад
YOU AFE A FABULOUS MUSICIAN. and a pianist
@billyboyblue1539
@billyboyblue1539 Год назад
Played this in my early 20s and now it is seems impossible as does most- at 65 yrs everything is a complete challenge which escapes my ability and patience
@izzyjamm4
@izzyjamm4 Год назад
I’m sorry my friend… the old enemy age waits to rob us all. Honestly amazing you ever managed to play this monster
@davidpickell4227
@davidpickell4227 27 дней назад
I get you! I am 70 and working to recapture my earlier skills!
@elizabethsesso9356
@elizabethsesso9356 9 месяцев назад
Thank you.
@franciscocanizaressanchez-3638
Pretty interesting! Bravo 👏🏿
@bifeldman
@bifeldman Год назад
Every word worth attending to.
@mikec2250
@mikec2250 Год назад
Well done.
@rachmaninovatan
@rachmaninovatan 8 месяцев назад
❤❤❤❤ thanks a lot
@johnstrand7456
@johnstrand7456 Год назад
Harpist here - this is fascinating!!
@Aerospace_Education
@Aerospace_Education Год назад
Ling Lings would not appreciate you saying not to practice it :) Thanks for the video!
@nandovancreij
@nandovancreij Год назад
real ling lings keep practicing through the burning skin
@ciararespect4296
@ciararespect4296 Год назад
This is exactly how I used to practice and play it many years ago at high school . It works but a good light action is needed on the instrument
@izzyjamm4
@izzyjamm4 Год назад
As an amateur, no idea why I wasn’t subscribed to this channel before
@oudompianist5594
@oudompianist5594 Год назад
Thank you so much for this video! Do you have any advice on how to adjust to pianos with slower or inconsistent key repetition?
@BuddyDean
@BuddyDean Год назад
Thanks Boris! So helpful! Now have you done one for "Une Barque sur l'Ocean"?
@VyacheslavGryaznovPiano
@VyacheslavGryaznovPiano Год назад
Very detailed and instructive video, is it possible to fix all the typos in the presented score?
@ronnyvanderwee417
@ronnyvanderwee417 Год назад
OMG that's a difficult piece !!!
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 Год назад
Whenever I practice these sorts of glissandi, I have a special pair of cotton gloves. It greatly reduces friction, and enables a pianist who may be totally unfamiliar with double glissandi, to practice them, without stressing out the action of the piano, or tearing the skin off your fingers. Thin cotton gloves;)
@peter5.056
@peter5.056 Год назад
After you get the hang of it with the gloves, then for the performance you just "go for it" and have faith it will work;)
@bachopinbee5991
@bachopinbee5991 Год назад
If Boris tells you not to practice it with slow tempo, cold hands etc, he really knows what he took himeself into before coming to that conclusion. He looks like a practice experimentalist
@JG_1998
@JG_1998 Год назад
I can't play this piece, but I love to practice double note glissandi for fun. I didn't know you weren't supposed to lol.
@brunolanzasant
@brunolanzasant Год назад
I usually play those glissandos with my hand inverted like I was spiderman. Works for me!
@wuwupiano
@wuwupiano Год назад
Ok you need to post a video of this!!
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
Dear Boris Giltburg, The A natural appoggiatura in m. 210 should be an A sharp (:
@matthewclarke5008
@matthewclarke5008 9 месяцев назад
You're not only an incredible pianist but an excellent teacher. Do you teach privately online?
@irinamoreland7751
@irinamoreland7751 Год назад
I would like to play for you .. I m playing it, where do you teach? Is this piano best play repetitions? And why, having harder time playing on Steinway
@harrybmichell
@harrybmichell 2 месяца назад
12:20 this is insane advice
@tedallison6112
@tedallison6112 Год назад
Just sightread this last night. Great piece! I've played Gaspard de la nuit probably a 1000 times & on my very 1st concert program so I intend to claim this as well. I'm poised to pounce. Been playing Petroushka & Islamey non-stop for over 2 years w Gaspard...... it seems to make everything else easier by comparison. I just finished the 12 Liszt Transcendental Etudes coz I played the 27 Chopin Etudes everyday for 3 years! ( it occurs me, I may be extreme!!)
@jorgeguimaraes8820
@jorgeguimaraes8820 Год назад
how to play double glissandi: step 1 - have a fazioli
@Daniel_Ilyich
@Daniel_Ilyich Год назад
This piece is obviously geared towards very advanced students, but does tonebase have enough material for someone like myself who is in the ABRSM grade 5ish realm? If there are just a few classes and it isn't a focus of the platform, it probably doesn't make sense for me. Any thoughts from Tonebase users? One other thing is that I took lessons between 11-16 and worked on my own from time to time since then (I'm 38, right now). I'd be curious to learn what is the best way to structure one's practice.
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
I'd recommend watching as many videos from Edna Golandsky as possible and to get familiar with the Taubman approach. Never in my life have I improved as much in 2 months as when I discovered it. I went from struggling with the Alborada to racing through La Campanella lol
@douwemusic
@douwemusic Год назад
11 days later and Tonebase uploaded their first Taubman video (go watch it!!!). Coincidence? :)
@merlindavids
@merlindavids Год назад
Gilburg variations
@vaultboy1488
@vaultboy1488 4 месяца назад
It can be played 2-4, but with remark that 4 will be at lower note and 2 at higher. Look how Richter deal with this place and what fingers he use
@zhihuangxu6551
@zhihuangxu6551 Год назад
How about the octave glissando in the coda section of the finale of Beethoven's Waldstein Sonata?
@michaelorgill4130
@michaelorgill4130 Год назад
It's not in English, but check out this video of Zimmerman teaching that section. It helped me a lot: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-VgLQwHR5BFo.html
@wolfsurvival2009
@wolfsurvival2009 Год назад
There are workarounds to that: add pedal and play the lower part with the left hand most of the time. It wouldn't work to add a fingering here, but I think you can figure it out.
@zhihuangxu6551
@zhihuangxu6551 Год назад
@@wolfsurvival2009 Thank you very much!
@josephhapp9
@josephhapp9 Год назад
🌹🙏🌹
@emreozdemir3164
@emreozdemir3164 Год назад
ı think the reason he wrote the glissandi with 2-4- fingering is because you are suppose to play with your hand inverted. your palm looking up, back of the hand looking down at the piano
@wuwupiano
@wuwupiano Год назад
So the middle joint of the finger is the part that makes contact with the keys?
@tyler5545
@tyler5545 Год назад
@@wuwupiano Nope, the nails. Both Ravel’s fingering and the one in the video are effective, Giltburg’s alternate approach feels like you have more control though since it’s more ergonomic. But it definitely can rip up the side of your 4th finger on the descent if you’re not careful, and depending on the piano.
@wuwupiano
@wuwupiano Год назад
@@tyler5545 Not sure how anyone could bend their wrist back far enough for this approach!
@62pianoguy
@62pianoguy Год назад
@@wuwupiano What worked best for me is to play palms up (supinated) on the ascent, but with fingers 3 and 2 (on the A and D respectively). I used 3 instead of 4 because it's a stronger finger; but with my palm raised higher than my fingers (almost like reaching into an oven with an oven mitt), to make the stretch between 2nd and 3rd fingers more comfortable. Then flipping my hand over to normal (pronated) position for the descent, on fingers 1 and 3. Any resulting "gap" between the ascent and descent really isn't audible. If I tried to ascend on 1 and 4 in a normal pronated position I would totally tear up my skin. Same approach for the glissandos in thirds. But everyone has to experiment here and find what works best for them.
@MathieuPrevot
@MathieuPrevot Год назад
Well, practicing glissendi also thickens the skin !
@sharky_spike
@sharky_spike Год назад
the notes in bar 179 do NOT equal a true glissando as several of the chords are left out of the scale for example bd, eg, ac... bar 180 IS in fact a true glissando
@rubinsteinway
@rubinsteinway Год назад
A#
@kyaume21
@kyaume21 Год назад
Great video, but health & safety warnings should be added to the score of this piece!
@wuwupiano
@wuwupiano Год назад
And I was hoping to be let into a special secret about how to play that gliss.😭
@wolfsurvival2009
@wolfsurvival2009 Год назад
I actually studied some performances slow motion on RU-vid (especially that of Vitaly Pisarenko) and experimented. Because of this, I did actually practice the glissandi relatively often - stopping when things got too painful and never without a day's rest in between. (I don't remember if I really rested, but it was my intention.) It worked. Basically like any other glissando, you want your fingernails facing the keys. So perpendicular to the key and sideways to exactly face the next keys. I actually did use the 2-4 and then on the way down 1-3, and I played all the glissandi this way. Like all movement at the piano: study your teacher's approach/another performer or author's approach, and try to find your own most natural movement for the task. If you resolve to solve the issue no matter what, and you have the rest of the technical capacity to play the piece, a piece should almost always be possible. -graduated master's with this piece, among others
@saltburner2
@saltburner2 Год назад
Has anyone ever played it better than Dinu Lipatti?
@chopin1962
@chopin1962 Год назад
richter
@mackiceicukice
@mackiceicukice Год назад
Yes
@Pogouldangeliwitz
@Pogouldangeliwitz Год назад
No, is that even a question !?
@paules3437
@paules3437 Год назад
Meh. How hard could it be?....
@beethovenalexander
@beethovenalexander Год назад
Free Palestine 🇵🇸 ✨️ 💙
@11kwright
@11kwright Год назад
Take a lead out of Zhdanov’s lessons, he’s able to slow down a little and show his hand playing from above whilst illustrating at a level all levels of interest can understand. This video is stereotypical and grandiose virtuoso pianist that can no longer relate to anyone unless high intermediate to advance. I learnt a little but nowhere as much had this been taught by someone that can teach for all lessons. Is why certain pianist attract all levels whilst others attract just elitist or well advanced even high intermediates. You must always show the hand playing from above because side view angles does nothing! A greatly missed opportunity.
@tylermckay616
@tylermckay616 Год назад
Interesting comment. I’m curious what brought you to this video and what you were hoping to get out of it.
@dot8209
@dot8209 Год назад
There's just too much happening in the score to explain to other levels without making this video extremely long and boring for the level it's meant for. A lot of the intended audience would click off the video if it were like you described. The videos taken from above look kind of weird imo
@stephenarnold6359
@stephenarnold6359 Год назад
Doesn't actually sound very good. The hiccup between the upward and the downward gliss is bad and obvious
@FocusMrbjarke
@FocusMrbjarke Год назад
"Don't practice it" probably the dumbest tip you can give lol
@rubinsteinway
@rubinsteinway Год назад
But he's right.
@TomCheer9
@TomCheer9 Год назад
Or have someone vacuuming the practice room while you're working on it... (GG)
@FocusMrbjarke
@FocusMrbjarke Год назад
@@TomCheer9 True😩
@izzyjamm4
@izzyjamm4 Год назад
He’s probably aiming the advice for more advanced students with a well-rounded technique
@nevesferreira2396
@nevesferreira2396 Год назад
For pianists with sensitive skin it is the best advice. Once you practice glissando it can torn the skin and you can get too sore and not doing it well during performance. When I have glissandos I practice them once a week and never in the day before of the performance. So this advice makes perfectly sense.
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