BORIS with MERZBOW - "Huge" (Official Live Music Video) 

atsuos fucken wild

ugh? I don't unner stan?😗

The thing is, this has melody still lmao. This isn't complete noise(genre) yet

Aye! ❤️‍🔥

how the fuck are u gonna say its pretentious to not like noise music LMAOOO thats the most backwards thing i've ever heard

Exactly what I did today

+grindcoremaniac considering bands play music, and this isn't that, I am able to agree with you 100% without ever having seen them.

You must not know about the versatility of Boris. They've recorded so many albums in different styles of music. This collaboration isn't the first with Merzbow either. I understand why people don't understand it, though. I get it though.

I have never attended live shows from either band, but I guess the Melvins, specially when playing "Hung Bunny" have a similar energy.

​@MegaKronnik tell me that you have never listened Boris without actually telling that. They're definition of versatility

..but it will be the real price for it))

I've been 4 times. I saw them for the 4th time last night and my ears still hurt like fuck. I have only half hearing in my right ear and tinnitus in my left ear. But hell, it was a fucking awesome gig.

Yeah saw them once and they are so loud, even from the back, you're gonna need earplugs

I had similar situation with SWANS, you could FEEL The brutal noise fisically

You better use earplugs

Yes and they're coming up with new album in December

yes!

Sameeee

you have a space to grow, it's great. Boris is overrated, Merzbow is not.

+Ryan Hoffman there is a slight difference between noise and music.  it would be normal if you had the ability to recognize that.

MegaKronnik Yes there is: intent. These people sound like my grandma when I was a kid who said Slayer wasn't music, it was just noise lol

+Ryan Hoffman Just because two people say the same thing doesn't mean they are obliged to be mutually valid or invalid. Depending on the context, a particular statement could ring true or false. For example, saying the sky is blue, while standing on Mars, you're wrong. I am of the opinion that the grandma you refer to is dead wrong due to the presence of rhythm, melody, and actual song structure. However, to my point, the cacophony of sounds you'd hear in a forest are not music anymore than the shit that merzbow makes is music. With poetic license I could completely understand, and would myself, describe the sounds of birds and the wind in the trees as music, but I would at least have the sense to understand I am taking poetic license in that situation. Likewise with Merzbow. I personally don't mind or have an issue with anyone enjoying listening to the noises he creates, much like I'd find it absurd to criticize someone for enjoying the sounds of the forest. However, I will roll my eyes and disagree if someone were to insist that the birds, or merzbow, are dabbling in the creation of what is known the world over as 'music.' TL;DR the term noise exists for a reason. not all sounds are music.

MegaKronnik Theres a difference between not liking it and calling it noise (in a seemingly derisive way). Hell even at universities they teach about and have composition classes for musique concrete, which has been around since the 30's...

+Ryan Hoffman - - - - I appreciate your ability to not let this devolve into a meathead slug fest on a youtube forum in spite of our disagreements and any snark i may have thrown out there, and I am glad to have come here because I did discover boris, who I will explore later as I'm able and in the mood. What would you say about John Cage's supposed composition entitled 4'33"? You can look it up on wikipedia if so inclined, but in essence it's 4 minutes and 33 seconds of silence. I posit that it is not music. the 'composer' of this silence insists the actual "song" is composed of what the audience will hear in their environment during the aforementioned silence. I am completely on board with referring to this as some form of performance art, although nobody is actually actively performing anything. I will admit there is enough flexibility there in concept and definition to allow a passive type of performance within the arts, of any variety, not just audible formats. However, to call 4'33" of general silence a 'song' or a 'composition' or more broadly 'music' I find that quite misleading and factually incorrect. To get back to our original debate here, I feel 4'33" of essentially random white noise and static and arbitrary throbbing bass would be similarly received: it is sound (or lack thereof to encompass John Cage's piece), it is a performance, it is art, but I don't believe it is music. One could argue that the entire infinite expanse of the universe is a musician and is constantly producing music because our scientific instruments on earth can hear various anomalies. -------- Ok, just listend to Pierre Schaeffer's piece entitle "Apostrophe" here on youtube. It is admittedly easier to listen to for me, i.e. not as abrasive as merzbow, but I still wouldn't call that music. It is yet again a performance art piece that happens to use sound as it's medium. Would you call the 7-eleven logo a painting or visual work of art simply because you can see it? The color bars that used to appear on TV stations as they ended their nightly broadcast is no more a work of art than a business logo or (though I know a work of art could be used as a business logo, I admit this isn't the perfect analogy for the concept I am trying to convey, but I am sure you get what I'm driving at). Musique Concrete seems to me to be amazingly important to the modern creation of music as it appears on the surface to be some of the earliest examples of sampling I've ever encountered. I am grateful to have heard merzbow, boris, john cage, and pierre schaeffer at this point in my music listening life. I don't find any of it to be outright worthless or devoid of meaning. I simply have a hard time reconciling these types of things as music, or songs. Art? Absolutely. And some of it beautiful to behold.

"...We Will Tear Your Mind Apart..."

Death metal is extremely weak compared to drone and sludge metal. Noise is really heavy too but in a different way.

Sorry, 2019.

@@aghastinagharta 2020

2021,,,couple times a month, sanity purposes.

2023, watching for the first time.

Their Naturals.

+Heywood Jablomey same here

Are you guys new to Drone?

+SuperTortilhaDeMorango I must confess, that I have flown a couple of those, and they all sound better.

Andrés Felipe Grisales What have you listened to? I dig Khanate and Earth more than this, but this is deffinetly better than anything I've heard by Sunn O))). I've digged some other Boris stuff though I haven't dived deep, but I didn't enjoy Merzbow very much except for some colabs.

+SuperTortilhaDeMorango This is some KTL-level doomnoise.

00:00 Your welcome.

Binky, that is the music.

Ningen Isu is real Japanese metal, this is just pretentious hipster crap

@@leolee8168 or maybe some people like expressing themselves in this way

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yes - drone metal and noise rock are actual genres

music means "sounds combined in such a way as to produce beauty of form, harmony, and expression of emotion." So yes, try google next time.

Miguel Ortiz Google's meaning of music means nothing. Open your mind to what music can be without set definitions.

Only an idiot would google the definition of music and then use it as an actual argument. No offense.

Not google's definition, any definition would suffice. Bitches

bet you can't play it

You're probably right, but I know some five year olds who have never played that could nail it, and maybe do it better.

+chzzyg269 actually, I don't think so.

@@chzzyg2698 You're a dumbass who's never heard anything more extreme than a Taylor Swift song. It's sad that you have to bash real talent.

Yeah, because Chord structure is the Only Thing that makes sense, grow Up.

+MegaKronnik Don't listen to his stuff then. Boom, problem solved.

+MegaKronnik you skipped through some merzbow for what, 5 minutes ?

+MegaKronnik wow man. you're so fucking smart. please tell me how to be as clever and genius as you dude. seriously. you're sooooo smart.

+MegaKronnik not sure why you felt the need to write three seperate head-up-the-ass essays on the subject of why you don't like this. we get it.

+MegaKronnik No offence, but it's evident you have no idea what you're talking about. You are perfectly entitled not to like it, but to call merzbow a scam artist is just ridiculous. He's been doing experimental/noise music since 1980, it's not a new thing. Nobody is making noise music to make money or be famous, I can assure you of that. I honestly don't think most hipsters even know/care about noise. If you don't like it go listen to something you enjoy and stop moaning.

Sure thing Sabaton fanboy

@@TheKingBJ Sabaton is good. What are you on about?

An Evening with Ebola You are an ignorant dumbass. Go listen to your shitty metalcore.

prog and power metaller pussy detected

You’re hilarious dude

oh listen to you. fuck off back to your hair metal.

Go fuck yourself emo.

@@resonator23 you tell em

Shut up

Pleb filter is working

@@AbyssicHate112 that's what I'm saying

@@AbyssicHate112 Listen to BORIS - Statement , the best japanese band that most japanese don't know about. It's has noise solo in it. Well that's what I love. That's my taste

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But it's better than Sunn O)))