The main issue is a potentially enormous speed difference. Meteoric Burst Boros got absolutely blitzed by consecutive normal punches whereas Blast is reacting to Serious Saitama barreling towards Cosmic Garou after Genos died which likely gives Saitama a rage boost and would make him even faster, and Blast still reacts to him.
This is exactly what I was thinking another thing is if blast has thise people come with him it's raps cause they were able to divert the power of that combined serious punch that made a hole in that star area
Garou would have gotten whooped by almost every opponent he faced if it wasn't for his ability to evolve and adapt. That's his true power, copying is just an extension of that.
@@qwerty0047That doesn't quite apply here since while the copy ability is Garou's inherently, the ability to copy powers themselves was thanks to the God boost. He can copy fighting styles, but he was only able to copy Saitama's and Blast's powers thanks to the boost.
I’m not sure having content for a series that’s more than a decade old can be considered surprising. Most manga, anime, and tv shows don’t last that long
@@rainer7556 what did I say that was confusing? Are you doubting that the series released in 2012? Are you agreeing with the OP that a series not being near finished somehow has any relation to how long it’s been out already?
The fact that to this day Boros is still one of the most iconic characters of opm and without any build-up to his character nor to his power may i add. It's just so insane, which makes it understandable why some ppl consider him to be in the top tiers, even though there exists someone from Boros who we can safely assume is stronger than Boros.
Agree, I honestly think meteoric burst boros is only slightly superior to Tatsumaki due to the fact that as Sasori talked about a few videos ago, Tatsumaki vs full monster Garou would be a pretty close fight, and as they showed at 2:38 of the video, One directly said a fight between Boros vs monster Garou would be incredibly close.
One did not directly say that it would be a close fight. He said he didn’t know who would win if they fought. And this was talking about garou from the webcomic due to the statement being from 2018. So it is not applicable to vs discussions between the two.
@@gazeta925 no that doesn’t work. The manga and webcomic are vastly different so that scaling cannot be used. Also that means you are literally saying golden S is relative or stronger than psyrochi 😭 like dawg what. That means flashy flash and sun blade atomic samurai are almost as strong to maybe stronger than tatsumaki.
@@a1manof2004nah really he was just late, boros was told that their would be a strong opponent on planet earth which was meant to be blast but he met Saitama
@@tierinie yeah and Blast Supposed to be on Earth but 3 years ago opm God made a weird move and Came in Contact witH Blast directly. although Blast had Space/Time Abilities but opm God defeated him too easily and Since then He Disappeared & "Prophecy became False"🤔
This makes no sense because Boros would've absolutely cleared the S class outside of Blast. If Blast didn't consider Boros a threat, Boros could've genuinely ended the world.
While i typically agree with most of your videos, i honestly think, that those panels showed blasts reaction speed rather than combat speed, i mean black S reacts to reverse causality punch, being one of few people who saw what happened, so i guess platinum S was just slower? I am off the opinion that blast will most likely have feats to beat boros in the future but he dose not currently (ignoring battlefield removal in witch case he wins easy by just teleporting him)
The thing about that is Blast was in a completely different pose when Saitama and Garou initiated their serious punches and were already close to each other. Then, while Saitama and Garou inch closer to one another, Blast is able to lean foreward, clench his hands into fists, slam them together and initiate the portal all before their punches collide. So it's a pretty big spead feat too.
I did that to make a point that no matter how much you highball Boros, he still can't win. I did say in the video that I don't believe some of the arguments I used.
Honestly The only feat that scales blast down is the supposed battle between Elder centipede which we know scales a lot lower than even perfected fist monster garou. The explanation or counter example to this feat would be how in the fight he was interrupted by “God”. We don’t really know what happens after that beside elder centipede living to fight another day.
We know Blast literally fought God, Sitch himself even says so and we see the scar that Blast got from God, it's literally the only time so far we've seen him damaged, and it took God himself to do it, I don't know why everyone sleeps on Blast.
Blast should be stronger than even cosmic garou. If not, there is no point putting him as a secret character and build all the hype for him. He probably just struggle against garou bcs it's on earth, and he can't destroy it
@@tonyhawksproskater2406 Well, if God hadn’t given Garou the power that made it possible to use the ability to copy, then the blast simply wouldn’t have come bad argument
Thank you for another great video. I hope you are doing well! I have an Idea for a video. What do you think about a Battle royale between all the cadres. Perhaps you could start some of them out with power ups to make it more fair like Fuhrer Ugly and what not.
@llllllllllllll_. Orochi and Psyrocho aren't really Cadres and if they were included, I feel like Orochi by himself solos most, if not all the Cadre with little effort.
Does anyone really have any questions about whether blast is stronger than boros? when garou used boros final attack(x2) without issue. this will already scale him much higher than Boros and blast scales from garou
@@SatorisYT Could you make a vid on Blast's partner aka the ninja village leader most likely vs first form monster garou and platinum s in the future, like instead of flashy flash if he were to be in the 3 way fight. Feel like he fits pretty well relative to their category, also keep up with the great content as usual.
Actually boros wins He is literally boundless guys, he knew saitama’s power was limitless (which makes saitama boundless) so that makes boros boundless. And blast struggled to contain the power of saitama’s boundless strength so boros > blast 🤓
A vantagem de Garou sobre Boros é que Garou copia os golpes. Mas Blast é o número um e inclusive parece que tem Boros ou alguém de sua raça em sua equipe.
I really do not think it is as simple as that thought , well blast was barely keeping but with initial cf garou and boros in mb chapter 166 showed relative speed feats to cf garou before copying serious saitama it will comes to the fact that can blast handle csrc or not , and the whole point is that blast was never able to redirect 2 serious punches and said his portal would get overloaded so he needed all his crew the same can go with csrc if he is alone now I do not know which one would win tbh , but who ever wins it is pretty close imo
well boros should use csrc in the end but the question is , can blast really channel csrc or not the , I mean people are just saying that he simply channeled two serious punches , but he literally never did that and said his portal will get overloaded! he needed his whole team to channel two serious punches . he just was able to channel saitama and cosmic fear garou body to the space before their serious punch energy unleashed . I personally always imagine it like this , in one way blast will be able to channel csrc and wins and the otherside is blast portal will get overloded , he will channel most of the energy but in the end he need to sacrfice himself to save the earth from csrc so I would say their battle who ever the winner is pretty damn close .
The CSRC is millions of times weaker than the Serious punch squared, it got dispersed by a weaker serious punch, while Blast was able to hold the clash for a couple seconds, his team did show up and help, but he was holding it before they showed up otherwise the explosion would have already been happening when they got their, but it wasn't because Blast was still holding it. The fact it can hold that punch puts it easily strong enough to hold the CSRC.
I don't think Boros would be able to even make a scratch on Blast, no matter how hard he tried. Blast would just deflect/dodge everything Boros threw at in an almost casual way. (No disrespect to Boros but yeah that's that)
One thing to note is that there is one of Boros' fellow species members on the Galactic Defense Corps. One that is most likely just as strong, or stronger than Boros. Blast will have seen Boros, and all his moves, coming a mile away. Obviously, the fortune teller that Boros talked to referenced Blast as an ultimate challenge, but as we now know, Blast is a little bit more than the #1 hero. Boros is an Above Dragon level threat. Unfortunately for him, Above Dragon level threats are probably very commonly dealt with by the GDC. All of the GDC are at the very least Above Dragon (arguably low-mid God level) in strength, and their main purpose is to deal with God level threats. Cosmic Garou pre Saitama boost was already a God level threat and Blast held his own. I doubt we've even seen the full strength of Blast. Once we know more about his fight with the ninja villiage leader who took God's hand, the we might have an idea. I honestly think Blast wanted Tatsumaki to fight Boros. Theres no way he didnt see that massive ship arrive at their planet. He chose not to interfere, and he clearly didnt know about Saitama.
It's also possible that he was just busy dealing with something related to God, he can clearly sense when people are around God, but there is no reason to assume he would have sensed Boros considering he has no relation to God.
There is a TON GAP in their strength difference. Let’s take the best Blast’s feat and say that he can deflect, therefore he has enough force, a 1/4 of serious punch*2 (let’s say blast’s team members were all the same strength). In your video we can see, that Collapsing SRC is 20% (1/5) of serious punch. To make some equation, it’ll look like this: Blast’s best feat = 1/4 serious punch2 = 1/4 • (5 • Collapsing SRC)*2 = 6,25 Collapsing SRC*2 BLASTS BEST FEAT IS 6,25 TIMES STRONGER THAN EXPONENTIALLY STRONGER COLLAPSING STAR ROARING CANNON!!!! AND U TRYING GIVE BOROS SOME SPACE???
Such a question: I would like to ask, when are you going to the create second season of Boros turning good? I've watched all the first season for 2 days, and I liked it crazily! Looking forward for your reply, and for second season as well)❤❤❤
I would think it would be a closer fight 😭 cause wasn’t Boros supposed to fight blast? I saw a reddit post talking about how the timeline for Boros to have gotten the prophecy and to then head to earth took 20 years and 20 years back blast was still active or something. And in this prophecy it said it would give Boros a good fight. Idk but Boros is still one of my favorites despite being introduced so early
It is jut a theory, and in any case, Blast could have gotten stronger over the years. But I definitely do agree, Boros is my favorite character in the series to this day.
One thing i didn't see someone talk about are the "Modes" Cosmic Fear Garou is using. His biggest feats are always only when he copied someone especially Saitama. Maybe Cosmic Garou is only that little bit stronger than the person he is using the "Mode" from. Maybe he gets a permanent boost, maybe he can only display the feats upon using a "Mode" and is somewhat weaker without it since his biggest feats were only after he had a Saitama face on his cosmic head. Exploring this and agreeing on what these "Modes" are actually doing can bring more consistency. Depending on the resolution that little squabble between Blast and Garou could be proving nothing for blast or could be prove that he is actually that strong. Could be an idea for a short video or part of a bigger video.
Personally, I don't think the modes matter very much because I think once Garou copies someone, he retains their strength and abilities indefinitely. In the Saitama fight, there are panels of Garou without his Saitama face taking heavy blows from the baldy like he would if he had Saitama mode on.
@@SatorisYT Yeah i also think that but a point could be made that he only copies what he sees at this very moment. Garou didn't use a mode at the beginning of the titan fight using blasts abilities. But after he got smacked around he used saitamas mode again and this was the moment this cycle of growth started. It could be that in the first exchange saitama was still casual and only showed his consecutive normal punches and the stats this implies. At this point he had these stats but wasn't stronger cause saitama didn't reveal more of his power. Then he briefly fought blast but didn't need a mode to copy his stats only his ability since he got saitamas stats from earlier which were above blasts. He then used saitama mode after that in that serious punch exchange to copy the next level of stats saitama revealed with the serious punch and then later in this growth cycle and so on.
4:59 bruh calcs like this make me like powerscaling less. Ignoring that there is no way murata and one did a calc like this when doing this image, the amount of mistakes is insane. First, since when can you calculate the power of a blast using the affected area? Where does that formula even come from. Second, the calculations are ...wrong? There is no way of getting the radius of the earth from this perspective without using trigonometry. Similarly there is no way that an area on a sphere can be calculated like a triangle. There is also no formula, but if you are going to do this you might as well count the pixels to get the area. No calculations are shown, only results. Third, the numbers are wrong. A large part of the blast is occluded by the curvature of the earth or outside the frame. So, wrong numbers, formulas, and theory. I don't mind doing physics for fun but this is just mashing numbers together and treating it as facts with a lot of false confidence.
I dont know will this make any change at all. But when Cosmic Garou after Blast fight fought Saitama (Cosmic Garou by that time copy Blast power if i remember) he was actually i think on same scale of power until Saitama didn't start grow his power again (If i remember there is infact a panel of showing both of Garou power scale and Saitamas in board like thing?) Meaning like...Garou was maybe stronger with use of blast power than at least released Boros? (i dont include 3 rd form Boros) Meaning like..Blast can be relative of level on Released Boros already?
@@SatorisYTI can answer this. Loki is multiversal and stomps blast. Destroying a multiverse then bringing it back together is something blast can’t even dream of.
Chill bro, he's not insulting Saitama or implying he's weak at all, he's literally just proving a point about how there is no way to scale Boros to Blast even with hilariously absurd highballs.
@@broggy52 😳 wtf!? you must be a dragon ball fan. try thinking outside the box. the one punch man encyclopedia also says that tatsumaki's supernatural abilities are the fruit of a "divine" realm, her powers can move "all creation" and her powers are bottomless. 😮 based on your reasoning, she should be up there with xeno! 🤭 if geryuganshoop can easily create a black holes, imagine how powerful the denominator of the universe really is? 😳🤯 and, when it comes to blast, consider the facts that cosmic garou called himself "absolute evil" which makes him platonically outerversal. then, in chapter 169, based on genos' third scenario - the state space of quantum mechanics theory, the opm universe is hypothetically dimensionally outerversal because it contains infinite-dimensional hilbert space. then there's the fact that cosmic garou's reversal of causality feat was a much more powerful feat than whis' temporal do-over. and these are the feats of a guy who blast slapped around without getting touched.🤯 so, my comments that boros is uni + to low complex multiversal and blast is outerversal stand.
@@fitnessstuff915 well no, a one piece fan if anything, and even being a dragon ball fan doesn't matter. You're thinking way too far out of a nonexistent box. Boros quite literally said himself he could destroy a star/planet, at full power with his strongest blast. That was also Geryuganshoop's full power and he was just comparing it to a black hole, obviously nowhere near as powerful that the ship wasn't being destroyed or any of the men being sucked in. How in the actual fuck does Garou calling himself evil mean anything about his strength, especially outerversal? He's galaxy level. You're pulling stuff out of your ass and or taking statements far too seriously. Reversing time was nothing more an ability, it doesn't matter if its above the angels' technique
Uhm...... How are you sure that Saitama was going faster when he used his Serious Punch? Garou was also able to perceive, copy Saitama and swing his fist in that nick of time Saitama was charging at him, Blast isn't the only one "contradicting" himself here
Saitama definitely was going faster. With Garou, all he had to do was even slightly perceive Saitama and then copy him to match his speed. Meanwhile Blast didn't just perceive Saitama, he blatantly outsped him too.
+ Garou was expecting Saitama to burst at him with his full power and speed, that was the whole point of killing Genos, so he was fully prepared to deal with Saitama's attack, meanwhile Blast would have been caught by surprize by Saitama's speed (since he doesn't know Saitama is strong).
@@SatorisYT It doesn't matter if Garou was anticipating Saitamas SP. If Saitama goes even at least, like idk, 70% his maximum speed? Garou would completely be blitzed. And Garou did not just 1 but 2 actions in his Normal mode plus pulling SP once he fully copied Saitama. While we only got to see Blast's POV when Saitama and Garou are inches away from each other, which means we can safely assume Blast only managed to perceive SP at that moment
@@tienluong9648 1. Garou only perceived Saitama when Saitama was already close to him, then copied him and matched his speed. Blast not being shown to react until they're about to clash is not an anti feat because he's not being shown reacting to their speed, he's being shown reacting to the energy that's about to errupt from their clash. He could have very well been able to see them all along and now we just cut to him freaking out over the power of the incoming clash, not the speed of Saitama and Garou's movements. This is supported because then, as You said Yourself, when Saitama and Garou are already very close to clashing, Blast in the time it takes Saitama and Garou to simply extend their hands, manages compose himself, change his whole posture by leaning foreward and moving his hands to an entirely new position, clench his fists and Bomb them together, and initiate a portal. He is moving much faster than they are and him only initiating his movements at the last moment just makes his feat more impressive.
Do you think it's possible that Blast maybe bent spacetime in some way so that time kinda slowed down for him, that way he would perceive the SP² in slow-mo?
This video is biased and stupid, Boros vs Blast isn't "one-sided", it's an extreme-diff battle for both since Blast is literally the worthy opponent mentioned in the prophecy, all the arguments that I hear from blastards is "muh kept up with cosmic garou" and "muh directed a serious punch", first of all cosmic garou wasn't even serious against blast, he was clearly holding back and blast ended up utterly terrified the moment cosmic garou copied his abilities, as for the serious punch there is nothing to indicate it was an extremely fast punch but people love to headcanon that blast is somehow faster than light just for this one misinterpreted scene, that being said, redirecting a punch is vastly different than redirecting a gigantic ass beam that will wipe out the planet, and i believe that if someone like the ninja village leader, who is MUCH weaker than boros, can give blast an hard time, boros will have no problem contending with blast nor killing him You do you, but Blast and Boros being "one-sided" is pure BS
Bro’s trying to fight logical conclusions with his own headcanon. Where does it imply that Saitama doesn’t want to immediately destroy Garou after he kills Genos and so feels the need to slow down a literal Serious Punch apparently? Didn’t Saitama become so angry that he didn’t care that his punch would vaporize the planet? If he’s not holding back in power, why would he hold back in speed? Just try to answer these questions without devolving into mental gymnastic that make zero sense.
@@myusername3689 "Just try to answer these questions without devolving into mental gymnastic" you should follow your own advice since it's literally said that Saitama tried *not* to kill cosmic garou as part of his promise, but I shouldn't be surprised that people like you have poor reading comprehension and deliberately misinterpret any scene in the manga as wank
I guess the kid is a borostard trying to nitpick lol. Dude said garou wasn't even serious and held back against blast like blast was serious and going all out against garou and that's the best and the most powerful thing we could see from blast but as a crybaby fanboy it's okay to use it as a feat for your favorite character but use it as anti feat for the other character. So the situation which both garou and Saitama were about to clash the SP warranted them to increase the potency and power behind the punches but for some weird fanboy reasoning warrants them to decrease the speed just to achieve what exactly...?? The slower the Punches moved the powerful they became??...or what exactly is your argument here lol just to overwank boros ?? Even the little feats blast has shown surpassed anything boros has done talkless of the feats he'll show in the future and talking about the ninja that fought him like you knew how strong he was or anything about how the battle went or the circumstances or how powerful blast was back then compared to now. So you see you are just a crybaby that can't stand the fact that your lord boros stands little to no chance against this blast and the guy even highballed boros to extreme levels in the video but you still cried over the outcome lol.
I'm sorry, can anybody tell me where do Boros's speed statements come from? They don't come from any calcs I've seen. They don't come from Saitama's or even author's statements either - all they ever do is address his STRENGTH. The only time his speed is ever addressed is when he says his speed surpassess limits of living flesh when he's in meteoric burst. But he only can possibly be referring to aliens he knows, which puts him above Melzargard at best - Puri Puri can react to Melzargard. Boros is not a speedster by OPM standards. Get over it people!
If One said Boros=Garou, and Garou is stronger than Blast, then Boros is also stronger. Feats dont matter, its pretty straightforward. I get powerscaling for fun, but in this case its clear cut Garou is the 2nd strongest aftwr Saitama, and Boros is equal to him, so one way or another he beats Blast
That was way way before Cosmic Fear Garou existed that we know Cosmic Fear was not really set up ahead of time because Murata redrew that whole fight since they had the whole talk in the building instead of Garou getting knocked out of his monster form and then speaking to god. he more likly scales to Awakened Monster Garou then Cosmic
Same as kaido "fighting" his daughter yamato lol Kaido was not trying to kill yamato. Saitama wasnt trying to kill the human garou, saitama was tryiny to kill boros. Blast cant even beat a centipede and you think this dude can beat boros? A more highly being than humans, and his body wasnt able to last if he use his full power? No human can beat boros, he would slap that overrated blast to death. You just lack experience in reading many manhua manhwa manga so you cant scale their power lol
If you genuinely think Blast is fodder after seeing him react to Serious Saitama, keep up with Cosmic Garou and contain Serious Punch Squared, then I don't know what to tell you.
@@SatorisYT looks like you can't comprehend lol. Saitama serious? Even if he name it serious he was never trying to kill the "human" garou. The only time he threw a serious punch was when he punch boros as he was trying to kill boros
Well Blast was holding back so i dont see where he contradicted his scaling. Like he should be capable to fight with Garou/Saitama on IO. Its weird cuz Serious Punch 2 seemed like an outlier yet base Saitama/Garou copying it scale to the energy dura wise... IMO FP Blast will be prop above Garou completely (not sure how since Garou can copy stats). If he isnt then some of his team should be, considering that Blast was a human aka the noobiest of them.
I mean it's pretty fucking obvious Blast is stronger than Boros and that's even before 'seal away' Garou, before Garou learned it himself and came back ofc. I didn't think one would need an explanation on why that is
I feel the problem with Boros is that we never get to see what his speed and power looks like when fighting opponents that are closer to his own level. All he did was fight Saitama, who of course made Boros look like an absolute chump. I mean, Armored Boros is already far above his own henchmen (one who is confirmed to move objects at light speed). Once the armor comes off, I think Boros is hilariously above a majority of OPM characters (aside from the obvious ones like Blast, Saitama, God and Cosmic Garou). People really underestimate Boros. I've seen someone say he's mountain level. Um....not he's not.
Well yeah, Orochi has the same problem, though he's vastly weaker than Boros. But it's clear anyway just from seeing Blast reacting to the Serious punch squared when Boros couldn't react to a single casual punch.
When I bring up Boros in vs battles, I add the part where he damaged Saitama so that he can be sacled to multi solar system - multi galaxy level, but when I argue about Saitama vs anyone else I refuse to admit he took damage to make him look way stronger lol
Has Saitama been confirmed to have been damaged yet? Some will bring up the cat scratching his face yet when that Cadre monster, Nyon tried to kill saitama with its claws, it did absolutely nothing. I guess that part was a gag, too? I've seen some portraits of Saitama having a rib cracked when Boros kicked him to the moon, but wasn't sure if that was official.
@@honestliar6646 Officialy, we don't know. Saitama either hasn't been damaged or has been damaged but only very slightly. There are arguments for both sides. The Boros one breaking Saitama's ribcage is visible only in one frame in the anime (imo it just showed Saitama from a weird angle where his bones seem to be slightly out of place). Even if you accepted that Boros really broke Saitama's bones at that moment, Saitama seems to have regenerated almost instantly to the point where even he didn't feel anything, so you'd have to consider this as a regenerative feat, which makes Saitama pretty busted if you think about it
Hey satori big fan of your channel and I think you will find this idea interesting Omni man vs Boros I am not sure if you know who Omni man is but if you do please do it and to make it more fun add conquest and invincible with Omni mna
Again, listen to what I sctually said. I don't believe the Cosmic Garou = Released Boros argument. And the Saitama reaction speed thing is when Saitama is supressed.
