I have the regular GT-1000, and I think the overdrives work great, but, having the real pedal for comparison definitely helps when trying the dial in the sound. I got the Russian Big Muff, and I was able to match it pretty close in the GT-1000, but only because I could compare them. I think this may be one of those situations where you need to know the sound of the real pedal to dial it in on the GT-1000.
Not necessarily. Because the goal is to sound good, not necessarily to sound exactly like something else. The Boss engineers' goal was to model it realistic. But If you don't have the real thing, all that matters is that you make it sounds good / to your liking.
Fabulous video. I own the Boss GT-1000 and my only complaint is that there aren’t more emulations. These tone are so close it doesn’t matter in a mix . Subscribed.
I didn't like the GT until i figured out to take it off "line/phones" in output. it was always running through the "original" speaker that's in the unit with no viisual indicator of a speaker in the effects chain screen, so it was coloring my sound (tonex with it's own amp and cab already). On "recording" they let you disable and bypass the speaker entirely, but on the "line/phones" setting you don't even have the option in the chain. That was seriously crazy of boss, because it wasn't self-evident and they even acknowledge it on their help section of the boss site, claiming they wanted it to replicate an entire chain basically with their idea of "correct" speaker type.
Thanks Paul, this is the vid I've been waiting for! Have been dithering whether to go the multi effects route vs Pedals and you've finally sold me on the GT. BOSS need to put you on commission! Subscribed.
Love my GT1k even more now. Thanks for this excellent comparison. In fact all of your videos on this pedal have helped me no end. Keep up the good work!
Fantastic! I’ve been waiting for someone to do something like this, especially with trying to replicate pedals such as a KOT or one of the Dumble style pedals. It would be a great series to do. A pedal a week.
My two cents 1) The Tubescreamer sounded like the EQ was a bit different. I heard more of a mid-hump in that than the digital one; however the digital one COULD be dialed in to sound identical from what I hear. So I'll put it down to "having a deadline to hit" as to the discrepancy. Having said that, it might be placebo and I might be hearing with my eyes 2) Boss has KILLED the Big Muff modelling since way, way back. While the Tubescreamers on older devices didn't sound close to the real world thing (and thereby I would use them completely differently than I would in the real world), the BMP has always excelled. 3) My favorite boss drive is the BD-2. So versatile and does what it says on the box. Even the BD-2w, while a bit superior, isn't worth the extra cash (IMO)
I have the GT1000 and the Nobels odr . The GT1000 has a ‘natural drive’. They are indistinguishable. Same with the ‘transparent drive’ and the Duke of Tone pedal. Boss is going to be fastidious about all of its simulations. The Twin Amp is just plain awesome.
Good vid. I wish Boss would model the actual pedal controls on the models. Every pedal has different controls. You'd think they would know this already :)
I'm not so sure, one of my favorite features of my Boss OD-200 was having a 3-band EQ for pedals that traditionally didn't have such level of control. TS-808 and Centaur with 3-band EQ? Sign me up.
I know I’m in the minority here since I’m a bass player and don’t play guitar. But I love the controls they offer such as clean blend which some of the models like example commonly rat pedals don’t have.
@@SuicideVan With software, you can have both. They should offer both the original controls, as well as a more detailed tone set. Note that Leo Fender's Stingray basses had a two-band EQ that people actually prefer to the modern three-band. Leo always knew what he was doing! More bands means they're going to have narrower frequency ranges and that's not going to sound the same.
@@lavadoraautomatica1 > I know I’m in the minority here since I’m a bass player and don’t play guitar. I'm actually playing more bass than guitar the last year and plan on using the GT with both. (And with some of my keys.)
Great video. I think you did this in perfect way. You set up your test. You showed us what you had to do to dial in the settings. And I like how you would switch up which one you would demo first so that we don't trick ourselves into thinking something like "the second always sounds better". Not a lot of talking and BSing either. Good Job.
Would love to hear this unit's fx only. And then it's reverb, delay, chorus, flanger, etc run in the fx loop of the IR 200. Update: I bought one from Sweetwater while on sale for $599.99 USD 1st week of September 2022. I'm about to find out how good the fx are.
I'm running from my laptop to Yamaha studio monitors. To me, there were only slight differences but I believe it was a matter of EQ. I have the GT-1000 Core and love it. This latest generation of modelers has hit a new high. Many more usable sounds. It used to be the presets in a modeler were, "over the top" and bordering on unusable. The presets on the GT-1000 are all usable with some tweaking for your set-up. I happen to bypass the front-end of my amp and go in through the return and I get a much truer sound that more closely matches going through a power amp and then into studio monitors.
I compared it with a TS9, BD-2, and Big Muff last night. Tube Screamer is spot on. It responds a little differently to more delicate articulations in your playing. But the sound is basically the same. But I do have a hunch he GT is going for an 808, not a ts9. BD-2 is practically spot on. The real BD-2 is more responsive than most pedals, so that becomes really difficult to capture. But overall it's very good - especially in terms of the BD-2's higher gain settings. The Big Muff is the problem for me. The Big Muff model isn't as scooped as the real thing. That's why you ended up needing to boost both the tone and the bottom. And no matter what, I can't seem to reproduce the sparkly highs that are on the real thing. In a mix it doesn't matter much. But inperson it makes the big muff pretty satisfying. The other thing is that every big muff model is less accurate at low gain settings. The GT1000 is the most accurate one I've played. But if you go below 40, it loses the high end and becomes smoother and more rounded - almost like a tube screamer. But, like the real thing, at low gain it is more dynamic and crunchy. I typically play with my big muff's sustain at 0 to 2 for this sound.
Hi Paul, to create a little better comparison it would be helpful to bring the FXLOOP and the FX behing one DIV-Point and switch them by foot-controlswitch. So you can switch while playing (and without a break and talking - because the ears cannot remember a sound with such minor nuances for very long). As a Boss GT1000Core-User i love these vids which show how to get even closer to the original sound (without having this device). thx
I've been wondering the same, but for non-overdrive / distortion effects, such as reverbs, delays, modulation, wah, octave, etc. I love the overdrive I get out of my Marshalls, but would love the simplicity of a single floor unit for all effects and avoid all little separate pedals - but digital mult-FX units like the GT1000 tend to sound best through studio monitors or direct into a PA, as opposed to running into a guitar amp.
That"s what I'm testing out right not, works good if you need to plug it in directly to your interface, but I find hard to make it sound good into an amp or even a k7 recorder.
I bought my regular GT1000 for FX and switching with my Mesa TC50, now I mainly use the green channel on the TC with all sorts of dirt infront of the preamp section from the GT1000.... It's a killer.
It seems like if you take the time to really dial in the GT-1000, you can get close enough to the original sound where most audiences won't notice. Having said that, the original pedals feel better when I listen on better headphones. For example, the Tube Screamer had a richer/fuller body especially in the lower end and the highs weren't as harsh (not that the GT-1000 was harsh) but seems like you could add a some bottom and fix that. Personally, I've always felt Multi-FX were great because of their mod/delay/reverb/weird fun tone stuff and less because they had great distortion/drive pedals. Having said that, these are some of the better emulations I've heard from a multi-fx, thank you so much for doing this vid!
Good vid . I’ve just done a similar comparison with the compact muff and mxr 98 custom badass against Kat and HXFX . For some reason I want the external pedals to sound better but for a hack like me there is virtually nothing in it. Horses for courses I guess but digital is starting to rule .
Very good set of informative videos ,nicely played and recorded.I have always felt that the "real" pedals i use with my Atomic Amplifire have more definition, touch sensitivity and are easier to adjust in the real world in real time- I also have a germanium treble booster -they seem to be the toughest to recreate as they add stacks of headroom -thats my experience other folks may be happy and other modellers may be better in that respect.
Hi I'm intrested in getting this pedal so I've been watching loads of videos. I like this one but what I can't find is a video about ""all"" the other fx like chorus, Flanger etc and how they stack up too the pedals or just a video about those pedals... thanks.
So the thing to do is to buy a bunch of broken but rare vintage pedals put them in the pedal board, pretend to control them with a midi switcher, then have a gt1k on the back of the stage doing the actual work 😁
I got a Gt core to put on my pedal board for loop effects and quickly realized I could replace my drive pedals with the GT versions as well, cause honestly it was so close. I did not expect that. So I can use a nano pedalboard now with just a GT Core, a wireless and a mini wah pedal.
great man. Realy nice unit. Please could you make a video of the gt 1000 core into the poer amp in of the boss katana. Would it make the katana even more better ? (amp sounds ?) I think many people ould like a video gt 1000 -katana power amp in Thanks , Mike
I think that the GT 1000 excels in the amp sim behavior. The effects are better than Line 6 just not that many of them. The centaur emulation is amazing.
Sounds awesome as always! Can i ask for some tips.. using GTcore in front of a Fender amp. What pedals to use or EQ settings to achieve that clean and drive sounds when you use your PRS DGT.. Im also using ang H-H setup on my guitar.. Thanks A lot!
Hi Gilbert, unfortunately that’s going to be tough as I don’t know what tone you are going for. I would say make sure your speaker block in the GT is off if you are plugged into an amp.
The effects are pretty generic and the delay times are way too short...but other than that, it's the biggest bang for the buck with all the features packed into it...
Hi Paul, do you think the GT 100 is still valid, I have heard some samples and I do not mind at all, I know it is a bit old but my wallet is crying, I would like your opinion as you are very good.
I thank you a lot for such a nice informative and helpful video, what a great ear and skill, you're dialing the tones so fast! My honest opinion, first impressions were like this pedal sound identical to the original pedals, after a bit of listening to the details of the two, no more multi-effects for me and I'm buying real pedals ASAP, Example of how digital this gt1000 listen to 2nd Riff on TubeScreamer comparison, palm muting sounds bad on the GT1000
As a former HX Stomp owner and current Core owner, the Core is in a class of it's own. I was looking for a streamlined 4cm solution to pedal boards and the Stomp, fx block limitations aside, robbed volume and high end from my signal. I did some A/B switching with the Core and simply couldn't tell any difference with the output filters set to the correct type of amp inputs.
@@zaporoshti3392 for 4cm use with an amp it's not even a fair comparison. Boss hands down. I will say the Helix sounded great through headphones and with a powered FRFR speaker. I can see why they are so popular with church bands and players going direct into the PA or recording interface. Combine that with a friendly and eye pleasing UI and I can see why some would prefer the Helix line.
@@SuicideVan you can get a really good church organ sound (using an electric guitar of course) with pitch and overtone boss effects on boss processors.
Hell to the yes. People sucking L6’s teets don’t know what they’re doing to themselves. That shit sounds like a battered asshole. What kind of unique turd gobbler prefers to play through headphones? If that’s you then yeah-L6 is fine.
TBPH, I couldn't care less how well a GT-1000 can emulate a Big Muff. Digital distortions are in general terrible. What I want to know is, how well does the GT-1000Core do with Boss' own effects, including Boss digital overdrives like the OD-1X and BB-1X, but most importantly, how the Core compares to the RV-500/DD-500/MD-500, and the CP-1X/BC-1X.
No particular reason they need to be horrible. I'll agree that in the past they WERE all horrible but as a synth software author, things have advanced a lot in the last 20 years both in terms of CPU/etc., as well as in terms of algos and approaches. Simulation has gone from a rough mathematical model of how a pedal might be assumed to work, to simulating it at the component level.
External over drives have their own flavor; front, back end, attack, tail, etc…. Boss GT 1000 fx’s are quite generalized/modeling type sounds. Not original. There is a gig difference. I have the drummer, guitarist, sound engineer gift.
Modelling can be pretty freaking exact. They can look at a tone component and get the EXACT frequency response of that in software, and so on. Just because the names are generic for legal reasons, some of the sims may well be a very specific piece of hardware. Others may not be. Still: there's no particular reason a sim that's not targeting an exact piece of hardware can't sound better than the actual hardware. For instance there's what, 6 pre-CBS blackface amps? Maybe something on the GT sounds somewhere between Deluxe and Princeton and sounds better for a given player and their song than the amps Fender actually made.
For like 1/10th of the price I’ll take the boards. They may not sound exactly like the real thing but I’m not a tone snob just looking to jam in my bedroom or with other people. I’ll stick With this
Spend some time with one of these GT 1000 and compare for your self. You words are empty unless you can prove it with evidence. These new gen modelers are in different league from modelers that came out even 6 years ago.
