Its pointless to justify the event especially when there’s money involved to run the show. If the real intention was to promote safety, tourism and advocating physical endurance, why was there a time frame set and podium finish recognitions? The dynamics and rider behavior changes when these are in place. Good example is the Philippine loop, your own pace, you own your time.
@@ianggg373 wala naman ako makita masama dyan lalo na for record nila bawat checkpoint pano nila labelan yan basta may dumating haha ang mahalaga walang award sa mga top finishers
BIMC wants to promote safety riding but also organizes riders to have little to no sleep before the ride and less time to eat and rest during the ride by imposing a 24hr requirement or the sake of challenge. It's ironic.
5:39 di ko makita kung paano nakapromote ng tourism tong event na to eh pinapaspasan lang nila yung bawat bayan na madadaanan. Kung for tourism talaga ang goal at hindi pataasan lang ng ego ng mga big bike owners, my suggestion is to make this not an endurance event, hindi dapat tinatapos yung ruta ng 24 hrs lang, talagang may maaaksidente diyan. Hindi naman lahat ng seasoned riders, kayang manatiling gising 24 hours. Then lagyan nila ng mechanics like, dapat makapagpicture sila ng tourist spots per check point, tapos daytime lang babyahe para makita ang tanawin, yon promotion of tourism talaga. Most ng accidents na napanood ko sa fb, gabi nangyari and they should learn from that.
for sure babalik ang mga riders sa mga lugar na yan pagkatapos ng event dahil di man lang nila na-enjoy yung mga lugar na napuntahan nila dahil paspasan nga ang biyahe. That in a sense masasabi nagtagumpay na yung LGU sa kanilang goal to promote motorcycle tourism lalo't moneyed yung mga kasali
let's be real, it's all about their ego. do it in a controlled environment like any other sports, not in public road. endurance pala gusto nila e di dun sila sa racetrack kahit isang linggo sila magpa ikot ikot dun
tama sir wala nmn tourism na napropromote cover up lng nila yun na para sa tourism gsto lng nga mga nka big bike owners na yan mag waswasan sa daan simple as that plastikan pa eh kalokohan nmn yung event
and that's the reason na dapat maban na yang BIMC, kahit sabihin pa nilang may rules or what so ever hindi niyan mapipigilan ang mga premium kamote. Best solution is to ban or stop that event.
These guys went through my town in Zambales in no time. No surprise since Subic Bay is just 40-30 minutes away from me at doon ang take off venue nila. I live 1 km away from the main highway and I can hear their engines roaring as they pass through. Ang daming reports from Zambales of these riders crashing, a few confirmed deaths sa mga nadamay sa crash, may isang comatose from our barangay, at may isang spectator na binugbog ng dalawang rider ng Ironman while a police officer watches helplessly (nangyari yan sa barangay ng parents ko, there's a video of it online). It's disheartening. And hearing comments and opinions from other people na parang wala lang sa kanila yung loss of life ng mga nadamay lang sa pointless na race na yan (yes, it's a race against time). Truly, disheartening.
Yeah, they turning our public roads as the rich kids playground! One of these days, I would love the organizers will be called to senate hearing on this matter and grilled in public! Let see about that.
Gusto ko rin sana i-add sa topic sana matackle rin. Meron mga motor like Honda Big bikes, always steady on yung hazard lights, mag blink lang when you use them. - sana mabanggit rin ni Sir Zach
7:06 this is what my group did last christmas break, we did the 2023 bimc route, on our own pace on our own leisure on our own stop overs. we enjoyed it, all of us arrived safely.
Maganda nga po habaan ng konti ganito po ginawa namin sa mga tourist spot nag papicture kami. Tigil kada may magandang view almost 24hrs na kami nakarating.
Maganda nga po habaan ng konti ganito po ginawa namin sa mga tourist spot nag papicture kami. Tigil kada may magandang view almost 24hrs na kami nakarating.
Dapat 100 % tigil na yan kahit anung gawin niu my kamote na rider na sali sali dyan at makakak patay ng bystandard tapos ang irereason out lang kasali sila sa isang indu rides kaya normal lang maka aksidente sila kaya dapat itigil nalng
I worked in Saudi Arabia, we used to travel 1200km every few months. From Dammam to Jeddah. It takes 20-24 hrs depends on how many stops you had. Our minimum speed is 120-140kph. Now I'm telling you roads in Philippines Vs roads in Saudi Arabia is way way way different.
Lets face it na feeling kasi ng nag paparticipate sa boss ay feeling nila nagiging celebrity sila sa dami ng tao nagaabang. Kaya ang daming nagpapayabangan.hehehe
Limit participants or do it by batch. Wag yung sobrang dami. Endurance challenge nmn so kahit di sabay sabay ang alis. Hirap kaya mag hintay maka daan ang 500 n motor bago makaliko. Pero perwisyo pa din kasi maingay talaga pag dumadaan.
In my opinion sir zac maybe they should employ a lead car and those who would pass the lead car during the run should be DQd automatically. Using a lead car with employment of the technology they are currently using, in my opinion would prevent those issues with BIMC
naku sir zach dami nggalit na mga tao sa fb ngkalat ung mga disgrasya tpos meron pa nanuntok na participant ng ironman challenge.. ehh umaawat lng ung isa sinikmuraan ng isang participant ng ironman challenge... dami negative comments bka s next ironman challenge mgulat cla mgbato nlng ng kahoy s daan mga tao mgdulot ng disgrasya dami na hndi nttuwa sa mga yan. maasbag at myayabang ibang riders.. porket may bigbike lng cla... bigbike lng meron cla hndi nila pagaari ang daan,, na pg sumalok cla cla pa ang galit kc nsalpok cla sa malliit n cc n motor.....
Sa Zambales dumaan nanakop ng lane at napakalakas ng ilaw ng ibang participants. Di ko alam kung bakit Kailangan nila magmabilis. Di ko talaga gets ang Boss Ironman kung endurance pala yon bakit ganon may time limit? Ang daming tourism opportunity ng Boss Ironman kaso di ko gets kung para san talaga ung event. Kung endurance ang usapan ang daming mga long riders dyan na back and forth sa LuzViMin. Yung mga bumabyahe ng 3 araw or more. Yun talaga yung mga boss. May Region Loopers na so para san pa si Boss Ironman?
Tourism opportunities in terms of what?! Are people flocking to these events like in Isle of Man, Dakar rallies in SA, Le Mans in France. Safety in terms of what, zooming with their blinkers top speed in public highways with little or no organizers?! Boss IronMan Endurance is a joke of an event
Very well said sir! Dati okay pa ang BIMC, medyo dumami na ngayon ang need i-keep in check before hosting another event na tulad neto. Safety dapat ang pinaka priority. Bawat isa satin mga riders dapat ngayon palang practice na ang DISCIPLINE and ROAD RULES. Ride Safe sa lahat!
Dapat may background check ang organizer regarding riders joining the BIMC. may video clip na lumabas ang yayabang ng riders and walang paki if may maaksidente dahil sa recklessness. pag may pera talaga, nagkakaroon ng immunity sa batas.
I think BIMC should have a Lead motorcyle in front. Parang Follow the leader lang. If lalagpasan mo yung Lead na motor from the Organizer ng event. Matic DQ yung lalagpas sa kanya. So kung ano yung takbo nung lead motor ng Organizer ganun lang din dapat yung takbo ng mga participants.
for me new rules should be included 1) GATEKEEP version : like from starting point to checkpoint 1 approx. should be taken for 2.5 hours but arrived after 1.75 hours(rider rode too fast), there should be a cooldown period and consume 2 hours at least from starting point to check point 1 (so rider needs to stop for 15 mins , mandatory before getting back to complete the challenge) in that way ma pipilitan silang "nako next check point maaga nanaman ako ng 30 mins" mag control ng ride pacing. like sa current route ng BIMC Subic Bay International Airport to Pangasinan Provincial Capitol Grounds, Lingayen, Pangasinan IS ALMOST 3 HOURS, kung mabilis k tapos 1 hour 30 mins mo lng kinuha yan pahinga ka 30-45 mins bago take off sa check point 2 or mandatory at least two hours mo kunin yun, kung maaga ka di k pede mag proceed until two hours sa 1st check point , then as the endurance near its end mas shorter wait time ang iset ng mga organizers or yung mga accident prone area, dun mag lalagay ang BIMC ng need to consume "x" amount of ride time.. do you agree mga paps?
I completely agree with your sentiment, and your suggestion resonates with my own thoughts. It seems prudent for the organizers to calculate only the time between each checkpoint, with each checkpoint responsible for timing the takeoff to the subsequent one. By compiling the time from checkpoint to checkpoint, the organizers can determine if a participant has completed the event. This approach would afford participants the opportunity to enjoy some time at each city or checkpoint for souvenirs or a short break, if desired. If ready to proceed, participants can simply inform the checkpoint staff and have their starting time marked again for the next leg of the journey.
Dapat matic na DQ pag maagang dumating sa 1st check point pauwiin na agad. Obvious namang nag overspeeding Wala ng pahinga ng 30 to 45 minutes. Safety nga pinopromote ng event.
Suggestion ko lang,with our technology and stuff. Magcreate sila ng app na gagamitin ng lahat ng sasali,sa app mismo is live track and recorded ang speed...kita agad if overspeeding na sila.yun palang enough proof of not following traffic rules and pde na revoke ang license. Just my 2 cents
im a riders also kuya ang nakikita ko po pagkakamali nila is the 24hrous endurance challenge my challenge...un po pagkakamali dyn to my view po..matic na magtutulin ka dynm..pero kung ginawa nila is with out 24hours challenge ...thats will cost trouble... mahirap po lalu pag gabi and past 12am at ang iniingatan kpo dy is the 3am oclock ,,you should be alert kadalasan pong naaaksidente sa mga oras na yan lalo pag lasing at mg mumutor napakadelikado po ....dahil dyn lagi ng aabang si karet ...the skull face ....my samahan po kmi dati noon ng riders po kya medyo my karanasan po tyo dyn .. kya be safe po and safty first prio..sa samahan at disiplina...
Imposibleng walang mag overspeed jan. 1400km in 24hrs. Min 60kph dapat all throughout eh imposibleng walang traffic light na need huminto and may time din na need mag menor. Kaya babawiin talaga nila yan pag straight line hahataw talaga 100+ kph BIMC only promotes reckless riding. Walang kwentang event yan.
Kung for tourism ang objective, mas maganda sana kung naglagay sila ng checkpoint sa bawat tourism spot ng mga bayan na dinaanan nila and post it on thier socmed by the time they get there and the organizer will verify it as soon as the rider reach the finish line, then to avoid overspeeding dapat may exact time sila na alotted for every checkpoint. No more no less.
it's not right to say na "okay lang naman dahil madaming nakarating sa finish line nang matiwasay". 'pano naman yong mga innocent victims ng accidents? sa tingin nyo ba okay lang sa bikitima at sa pamilya nila? may namatay pa based from what I saw/read online, yan pa lang red flag na yan Endurance Challenge using Public Roads. (I'm not just referring to BIMC but all endurance challenge being held on public roads). The fact na mayroong nadamay, these events should be stopped.
Kung 1400km yung distance at target mo matapos ng 24hrs or less, dapat ang speed mo ay 60kph. Kakain ka pa at yung iba naiidlip pa. Kaya may mga oras dyan na humahataw yang mga yan para ma hit yung target time. Isang solusyon ang bawasan ang distance o dadagan yung time limit para di sila magmadali.
At the end of the day.... Still public road padin yan. How ironic lang promoting safety sa public road tapos walwal sa BIMC.... Hard to swallow pill yung point na public road ang ginagamit nila.
i finished bimc 2024 luzon ng buong buo and totoo nga ride at your own pace lang walang karerahan still managed to finish it in 23 hrs. nakakalungkot lang din yung mga nasaksihan kong aksidente during the events. sana wag na maulit yun kase nakakatakot talaga. condolences sa lahat ng nasawi :(( sa mga kapwa kong chill ride lang nung bimc saludo sa inyo solid ng takbo natin!!
I would suggest na lahat ng kasali ay kakabitan ang motor nila ng device na mag rerecord ng speed nila na maaccess ng organizer thru app para makikita at marerecord speed nila
Okay lang sana kung mamamatay yung mga pasaway lang din,nakaka damay ng mga tao. Dami di na DQ mga nag popost pa ng video 200kph on a public road p*ta. Maganda plano mo Sir Zach pangarap ko naman PH loop.
1. How is it not a race if there's a time limit? 2. What about for the safety of other motorist? Most of their aux lights are not even legal. Pointing directly at the eyes of incoming motorist(s).
Endurance pero may time? Ano yan time trial. Lol! Natural talaga maguunahan mga kalahok kasi may time limit. Racing pa din sya, iniba lang ng pag explain at definition. Ang pag kakaintindi ko sa "endurance" patagalan mag drive sa mahabang route, hindi ung may time limit, time trial etc. Sino niloko nitong mga nag pa event nito.
Ang Publikong kalsada ay hindi dapat ginagamit sa karerahan, maraming madadamay dyan na maaaring masaktan , biruin mo 1200km tapusin lang sa 24 hours, talagang Ratratan yan 😊, Race talaga ang mangyayari dyan . Duon nalang dila sa Race Track kahit 48 hours sila dun.
kung endruance lang naman pla habol nila sir...bakit hindi na lng nila gawin sa race track gawing parang le mans...kahit 1 month na sila sa racetrack...at least safe at walang civilian na madadamay...
Had a chance to share the road with these BIMC contestants. Busina ng busina kasi nasa inner lane ako kasi may inovertake din akong ibang sasakyan. Akala siguro nila na reserve na nila ang fast lane kasi nasa contest sila. Parang mga may ari na ng daan.
May tinatawag kasi na TOP FINISHERS, na nagte-tempt sa participants na bilisan! ung Endurance nagiging Karera! Ung mga vloggers, dapat nagse-set din ng example... kasi ung iba sa kanila... promotor pa na kumarera
In my own personal opinion Bro much better if the BIMC organizers make the time limit longer than 24hrs so that all the participants riders eh hindi matatime pressure. And your idea of enforcing a very strict rules and coordinations with the local government that will enforce that rules that's absolutely right Bro
I think this is something na need e double check ng organizers to enforce full partnership with the government. In the other part of my mind they might be things na already ginawan ng way ng Organizer kaso nahihirapan sila coz maybe they cannot function well due to some of the government officials na probably nang hihingi ng budget or padulas. Well they're just my thoughts. Hopefully on the next Boss Ironman Challange if meron pa mas magiging mas and hopefully the things happened this year and the previous year would be a lesson learned para sa lahat not just the organizer but everyone including the bystanders na if they know na ang Boss Ironman Challenge will be on their route or place mas magiging maingat sila sa pag mamaneho or mas magiging cautious sila sa paligid.
basta may pang registration go eh,. dapat may pre-qualification, low speed and high speed drills in a racetrack or controlled environment,. pag di pumasa, di na pwede sumali,.
let's be real, it's all about their ego. do it in a controlled environment like any other sports, not in public roads. endurance pala gusto nila e di dun sila sa racetrack kahit isang linggo sila magpa ikot ikot dun
rules ng BIMC is sobrang kulang hanggang rules lang hindi rin naman sinusunod ng mga participants dapat mas mahigpit na rules plus local government and LTO and more visibility ng inforcer sa daan para na gaguide yung mga motorista sa nangyayaring event. every year mqy ganito nangyayari na sana na mamaximize na nila dahil every year event yan eh.. dami pa kulang talaga.
Dapat may mga stop sila point 1 to point 2 to point 3 dun palang DQ na nila ung nag oover speeding. Kada stop/point may minimum time wag na nilang paabutin sa finish line.
I'm all in sa mga incognito snipers para sa overspeeding, para pagdating sa checkpoint, may free na ticket. Masaya yan. resing resing kasi nangyayari.At kung totoong endurance bet nila, gawin nila sa track mala lemans gawin nila, wag sa public roads.
Alisin na dapat Ng mga organizer Yung 1st 2nd 3rd etch sa mga finisher. Simply call them call/declare them as finisher. Para Hindi sila mangenganyo magkarerahan. Makipag colab din dapat sila sa gov agency tulad Ng LTO para on the spot pwede matiketan Ng traffic violation Yung mga kasali na overspeeding at reckless.
Salamat sir zach for voicing out my thoughts. Dapat talaga aware ang local government na madada anan nila for cooperation or mag appoint sila ng mga staff to monitor the rider speed through out the program.ride safe always po.
madami din kasi nka big bike na wala disiplina yung mga pinaggagawa nila dun sa event gngwa din nila sa weekend rides nila eh kala mo sa kanila public road bsta may dadaan na grupo ng big bikes ikaw na nsa tamang linya mpapagilid k na lng ksi sasakupin ung center line dont make these kind of events na kasi mga big bike owners lng nmn tska ung organizers may nkukuha jan ung tourism promotion aspect wala na kasi na overlap na ng bad manners sa kalsada ang buong event na yan
Tigil na lang dun niyo gawin sa race track yan or pumili kayo ng lugar ng wala gaano tao like DRT Bulacan. Nakatulong pa kayo sa mga tao at tourism dun.
Provide GPS to all participants and a monitoring system na nagdedetect at alarm pag may nagoover speeding then automatic disqualify and out pagdating sa next check point pag scan sa participant card/number nila at di na cla pwede magpatuloy at tapusin ang challenge.
well said sir zack khit sino nman tlga walang gustong mka disgrasya o madisgrasya even the organizers yun nlng tlga eh nahaluan nasamahan nalng tlga ng mga kamote riders ang BIMC sana lang sa susunod mabawasan sila para mabawasan narin ang disgrasya involving this event.
BIC is good. It would be best if all participants will obey all traffic rules and regulations. Proper coordination with the lgu is a must. Shout out Zach, well said.
ang napansin ko sa BIMC yung mga motorcycle labag na sa GUIDELINES ng LTO lalo na sa AUXILLARY LIGHTS na kinakabit nila sa motor nila lagpas na sa 12 bulbs, overspeeding na, maiingay ang tambutso
Kung tourism pinupromote nila dapat check nila ung mga tourism spot ng every monicipality na daanan nila at un ung gawin nilang check point para nman ma promote.
Sa tingin ko Yung endurance naging Race event na e. Mas maganda siguro yung LAST 3 riders na makakarating sila yung may magandang premyo tapos yung first 10 na unang makakarating ay DQ agad kahit anong oras pa yan. Ewan na lang kung may mag unahan pa dyan. 🥴
The problem with working with LGU is that ano the whole time naka standby mga enforcers and kelangang mag adjust ang local folks coz anytime dadaan mga participants? It's unthinkable na because of some egoistic enthusiasts eh life norms and flows will be disturbed.
