A Dadant Fillmaster and Chadam Filler are shown pouring honey side by side including a view of how our holding tanks, honey filters, and honey bottling machines work together.
Great video Bob. I love how specific you get when you do your videos. I think the way you have been disseminating information has and will continue to aid in the development of the bee industry worldwide. Have a great one ,and keep on keeping on. (Philbert, Jamaican)
Thanks you so much for taking the time to do this review. It was a very in-depth review and as a rapidly growing honey producer, I appreciate the effort.
Thank you for specifying the pouring temperature. I was worried that it would have to be heated past 38C (100F). Enzymes die off at that temperature and the honey is 'cooked'.
Bob, I’m over the robotics/ controls at a coffee and tea facility in the south and I just would like to suggest that if you put a simple relay between a thermostat on your honey tanks to the filling machines e-stop circuit, that would stop the machines from running if it’s not the correct temperature thus eliminating the chance of burning up motors. Shouldn’t cost more than a $100 bucks.
Hello Bob on the foot pedal do you just hit the foot pedal to start the fill an then it turns it self off on each bottle when it is full or do you have to hold the foot pedal down till it is full an then let off when the bottle is full. I saw where there was a auto and manual switch on the control so I thought it may be both ways . ?? As always your video’s are very informative as you put much thought an detail in to everyone you do . Thanks
Hi Kathy. One tap starts it. It will go through only one fill cycle until full, even if you tap it again while it's filling. The manual button will over ride everything.
We have seven tanks total in this room. Five are 600 gallons each and two are 300 gallons. They are heated from the bottom. If you look closely you can see the seam for the water portion about 6 inches from the bottom. If I was having them made again I would only make this part 3 or 4 inches.The hot water circulating through the bottom is from a large on demand hot water heater. Each tank has its own circulating pump and thermostat set at 95 f which is the temperature at which we bottle. The tanks were custom made to my drawings at Hud Industries in Gardena, California. www.yelp.com/biz/hud-industries-gardena They can make just about anything you want out of stainless steel.
They come from the factory clean and because honey is a safe food (somewhat self sterilizing) we are not required to rewash as long as our storage facility passes inspection, which it always has.
Love your input. I am based in Botswana, Africa and starting a honey bottling business. Looking at the Dadant Fill Master and really enjoy the look of it. Asking how many tonnes would you estimate you put through that machine alone in a month? This would really help our purchasing decision.
What model number is the smaller Rosedale filter you have hooked directly up to your Dadant fillmaster? Would you have preferred a different bag filter when pulling directly from a barrel?
4-12-11/P-1-500-SBN POLY. We use 400, 600 or 800 mesh filter bags depending on the need. Usually 600 or 800 when bottling from a drum (we call our honey raw).
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We run it through an 800 micron filter on the way to the tanks and settle for at least one day. Minimal heat. For more info see our video "Packing Honey".
@@bobbinnie9872 Hello Bob Thanks for sharing your expertise and Videos. It is very helpful. I m buying honey from the farmers in 5 gallon buckets (12 buckets each time in my SUV.) and Strain it in Maxant water jacketed tank. Keep the thermostat on 95°F and manually bottle it. I m planning to buy a Dadant or Ez fill for bottling. Lifting barrel above the filling machine is not practical in our place. Our room size is 15'×30' with 2 exhaust fans to keep it little cooler, no AC. What machine do you suggest for me, considering temperature and the position of the barrel! This will be the first time I will pump directly from the barrel so I can't strain out other particles. Also I really don't want to buy another pump to pour it into Maxant tank to strain it, so what do suggest about straining or filtering the honey! Is there any attachment or something I can use? I would highly appreciate your advice. Thanks. Sorry for the long text.
Hi Jay. Although I have heard decent comments about the Ez Fill I can't speak to it because I've never used one and don't have enough information to form an opinion. When looking at bottling equipment you need to understand the term "flooded". Some bottling machines do best when the product source is at or above the level of the machine so it doesn't need to suck and only needs to push. This means it's "flooded". The machines in this video have different needs. The Chadam works better than the fill master as long as it's flooded but the fill master is far better at pulling honey out of a drum or bucket on the floor. It will also pull honey through the filters seen in this video by creating a good vacuum. I don't know where the Ez Fill stands on this issue but considering your situation it sounds like you need to figure that out before you buy. I understand the newer fill masters have bigger pumps and motors than the ones I have, are much better, and will pump cold honey. They also have stainless steel pumps, not plastic. Good luck with your decision.
The bubbles should float to the top which can turn into a film of foam on top. If they are very fine it can take a long time to disappear. If you have a Fill Master that is introducing excessive fine bubbles it is most likely sucking air through a fitting or seal.
No, we are still using these machines at times and also want to keep every thing for back up. The new line is up and running and so far has been doing great.
Bob Binnie at Blue Ridge Honey Company My friend is going to update his bottling line to an automated system. Do you have any suggestions for an automated bottler?
@@3Beehivesto300 We purchased our system, which works great, from Chadum Consultants in Indiana which was recently bought out by Apex Filling Systems. Mike Salyer who owned Chadum highly recommended Apex as a company to deal with. We have called them for advice and they were very helpful. You might give them a call. They come up on Google easily. Prepare your friend for sticker shock. This stuff isn't cheap.
Our automated system was custom made by Chadum Consultants which was recently purchased by Apex Filling Systems LLC. Because it was custom it does not have a model number.
The total system which includes feed table, feed reservoir, four head filler, cap tightener, used Universal Labeler, inkjet lot code machine and receiving table cost around $78,000.00
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@@ronikazhang5585 hi there . please provide me more information about the filling machine. if you have the mini one please send the catalog to viktor.maresa@gmail.com
I bought a used fillmaster for cheep. Come to find out the pump is not factory and is made of cast iron. Do you have any info on the factory pump. Dadant said they didn’t make them anymore and had to buy the stainless pump for big $... A picture of the I’d tag or owners manual. I’m just tying to find the info for the original brass pump in hope of finding one.
We course filter to make sure there isn't anything dangerous in the honey. It's possible to have splinters if wood and small pieces of nail or wire from the comb frames in the honey. It happens only rarely but it does happen.
@@bobbinnie9872 *VERY* GOOD ON YA'LL. BEEN SUBD., FOR AWHILE AND FROM THE FIRST VID I SAW OF YOURS. THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT. GOOD LUCK AND HOPE YA'LL LAST ANOTHER 100 YEARS.
I have been programming robotics and other automation for years now this is what I’ve seen: When I was in the automotive industry, I helped launch machinery with 6-8 robots that would eliminate four jobs and those people were cut throat and workers were simply “units”. Now I work for a coffee and tea company that when a machine is upgraded with automation, the operators literally sit in office chairs and nod off to sleep with their machines running. That being said, it would really be left up the owner on what profit margin they want in my opinion.