@@timoshenko1971 I think it's because the Tribunal has to find the balance between upholding Chain of Command and recognizing the Honor Code. Chain of Command is the operation edifice on which the entire military is built. It's the skeleton and muscle, as it were. No one can say to their commanding officer, "nope, I'm not doing X because you're a jerk". Christian knows this too, as evident is his haunting speech about discipline. The Honor Code, however is supposedly the heart. Without honor, there will eventually be complete collapse, and total loss of morale. Military men (and women) have to believe they're doing the right thing. But I'm not in the military so I'm just imagining this. So while they see that Bligh is a vicious, sadistic bully, a sanctimonious blowhard, and an altogether foul man, he was also doing his job. "Excess of zeal" is how they put it.
@@tedjohnston9314 - Good point. And we certainly have no justice or decency under a hair-sniffing pervert who allows millions of illegal aliens to make a mockery of our border.
Yeah. "You haven't actually committed a crime, but you are guilty of being an unrepentant hard-ass prick, which sometimes isn't the best thing for a sea captain to be."
@@bigwrexuk Not when he loses the ship. Bligh went on to be the governor of a new colony in Australia, and lost control because of the rioting. His statue is on the Thames Enbankment I beleive.
Incredibly damning. They were openly calling him out for not being a gentleman. Now that may seem like nothing to us now or at best a joke or a meme in this day and age, but that’s like calling a samurai “dishonourable”, or a knight “unchivalrous”. It’s just about the biggest slap in the face that they could have given him. If you were not a gentleman as well as an officer, you were nothing.
It’s like a rock star telling Wayne and Garth they aren’t worthy. Bligh getting that verbal slap down was not a small deal. In fact, it was quite the opposite.
That's not really accurate. "Gentleman" at the time referred to someone of the upper class. It depended on your birth, not your personal qualities. Gentlemen may have been expected to comport themselves with honour, but the failure to do so didn't mean you weren't a gentleman. Just not a very good one. I don't think the statement made in the clip is one anyone in the 18th century would have made.
Almost the opposite of the 1984 version, where Bligh is praised for saving the men on the open launch. Bligh and Christen would meet again 16 years later as Council Members of the Planet Krypton.
Bligh's book, sketches, and descriptions of his voyage to Timor are so accurate that they can be used as sailing directions today. A remarkable seaman, it has been said of him "He was only good when the going was bad.".
There's a statue of Admiral W. Bligh in his hometown. If that surprises anyone I would like to add that in 1787, his use of discipline was light by the standards of the time. The Zeal referred to by the court does not represent his disciplinary standards but rather his acerbic nature and desire to go around the horn to make a name for himself. His low born status was reflected in the Admiralty dragging it's feet to authorize his departure, delaying it until that window had passed. He should never had attempted the Horn. Also, he loaned Fletcher Christian money after he gave up on the Horn in Cape Town. We all know that was a HUGE mistake.
@@davesnothere. Bligh spent six weeks trying to get around Horn. When he finally gave up, he had not lost a man, a spar, or a sail. That , in itself is a remarkable achievement.
Captain Bligh was a **FIRST CLASS JERK** and the whole world knows it. His name has come down to the present as a by-word for extreme cruelty and infamy.
@@Farmer-bh3cg No doubt he was honored for his seamanship less than he should because of the Mutiny. Fletcher's brother had been involved in an aborted mutiny before and told him about it. Cogito ergo sum. If it were not for that event and the Christian estate being depleted of wealth I doubt Fletcher would have done it. Nobody would be calling Admiral Bligh "Captain Bligh" in the history books. Admiral Bligh was just another working man that got his name trashed by the rich for his ambition and the temerity of wanting to be in the club.
Pretty accurate in terms of leadership being “punished” in the military, I’ve seen plenty of NCOs and Officers get numerous complaints about their conduct & nothing happens until someone openly does something like attempts suicide or up front tells higher up leadership during sensing sessions, and instead the other person is involuntarily separated and the NCO or Officers are moved to another unit without any reprimands
That's how things often work, but in this case it is not accurate. The Bounty mutineers mutinied because they had been getting free and hot sex from native women and wished to return for more hot sex. The idea of Bligh being a martinet is a fiction that arose decades later in a book. The Royal Navy clearly didn't think Bligh was bad news, they made him governor of New South Wales.
@@will-i-am-not Bligh was an Englishman who served in the British Navy. Sometime after the Bounty crew mutinied so they could go back to hot sex with native girls, the British Government made him governor of New South Wales, then a British colony in the land later known as Australia.
That happened to me in the civilian world with an abusive supervisor. I made verbal and written complaints that were ignored until I snapped and yelled at him, actually I screamed at him. It took that to catch the attention of a high level manager to look at the situation. I thought I was gonna get fired, but all that happened was that the manager told me to have a good day and to take care. I’m thinking they may have had a little talk because the abuse stopped. But man, I was scared that I was gonna get my walking papers.
What a remarkable voice Henry Daniell had. It gives majesty to a speech that would have been much less had it been given by a less vocally gifted actor.
Unfortunately he was one of the last of a generation of actors who spent years in Rep honing their technique before appearing on TV or cinema screen. . Sadly ,none of the present ( or future ) crop will be capable of such a performance. . Too " posh "... and doesn't tick the correct boxes.
2019 DE yes, l agree, "justice and decency are carried in the heart of the captain or they be not aboard" Bligh's idea of discipline does not match at all with a captain of the admiralty.
No, he was not a gentleman. Back than honor, honesty and discipline had a meaning! Captain Bligh was just layman (eating stinking cheese, stealing food and blaming others), who drilled him self up to the rank of captain by ambition, hard work and ruthlessness. That's why he only received missions, like in this case, expedition, bringing back bread fruits, not commanding military ship! There are many rules in the book, but it takes a gentleman to apply it the right way against his man!
@@normanbraslow7902 Now Now Norman...Did any of you serve under Captain Bligh...if not at this point all is conjecture and speculation...even if you read the log of the bounty, the other side of the story will nay be heard...aaargh!
Olivier Bolton, try to read Caroline Alexander, "The Bounty", perhaps the best researched study on the subject. She does not pull any punches. Pay specific attention to her account of the Christian family's major efforts to blacken Bligh to try and save the reputation of the Christian family from the disgrace. I've read plenty of Royal Navy history, and Bligh comes off as brilliant, irascible, but he never wantonly maltreated his men as alleged by the Christians. All navy officers swore, perhaps Bligh was more vocal than some, less than others. My impression is that to serve under him would have been rigorous, demanding, but if one exerted ones best efforts so that he could see that, there would be no lasting problems. Do you have any idea at all of the rigors of commanding a ship like the Bounty? Unrelenting discipline and obedience to orders was demanded, or all hands could die, and the ship lost. Christian was, simply put, a spoiled brat who could no or would not be disciplined, and went off the rails. He deserved to be hanged.
Tracy Winters Henry Danielle was just right for his part in this brief scene: a stroke of genius or a very happy accident that he was picked to deliver the court's verdict. He died in 1963, soon after the picture was released.
@@randynundlall2601 Two people beat me to mention Henry Danielle, gifted with a voice as sharply edged as a sword and delivery equally suited to authority or villainy.
He didn't fall far. He proved to be one of if not THE best celestinal navigator in the world at that time He was given a bigger ship and then got the breadfruit, fought with distinction with Nelson and eventually rose to the rank of Vice-Admiral.
@@robertacolarette1594 during the open launch journey one was killed by natives. Whilst he was still in command of the Bounty, one but that happened long before they got to Tahiti
The more I look at Bly the more I understand that he’s viewed differently on how people view authority. Basically the historical bly all things considered was just given bad cards as overall his “Tyranny” was average for the time or borderline tame but because he has no marines to back him up he was singled out as the tyrant. Overall both sides in the mutiny had justified reasons as to why they did what they did. However history of each era following this event decides to paint bly how they view authority. During the mid 20th century bly was portrayed as a tyrant probably due to the recent tide of dictatorship that people fought against in recent years. However in later decades he’s portrayed in a more sympathetic light that views him as a man more than evil captain. Overall I prefer the more sympathetic version as I believe judging from the logs and writings that while the man was with criticism he wasn’t a man of villainous intentions. Also the fact that he survived the voyage to the Dutch colony from Tahiti is nothing short of amazing.
For Captain Bligh to have been told point blank that he was not a gentleman and that the Admiralty in fact regretted assigning him as captain - what a slap to the face. Even as he had supposedly won the case.
Camus once wrote, "Filth and decency are just words. Everything is just words. All my life I wanted there to be something other than words. That's what I lived for, so that words would have a meaning, so that they would be deeds also."
Trivia: The admiral who delivered the 'findings of the court' was played by Henry Daniell, an English actor, best known for his villainous film roles, but who had a long and prestigious career on stage as well as in films... He is uncredited in this film which was strange considering the excellence of his brief performance in it... Truly a spectacular movie in the tradition of the great MGM classics... Excellent on all levels, and truly worthy of the 7 Academy Award nominations it received... THIS is the movie that forever made me a fan of Brando, and of Trevor Howard.
Daniell looked a sour piece of work on screen but he must have had something extra off it : it is said that he had six children. He died in 1963, so this effective little cameo must have been one of his last roles.
That speech delivered by Henry Daniell is for me, one of those "moments" in film -- alluded to once by Jimmy Stewart in an interview -- that in itself is almost worth the price of admission.
I seem to remember Henry Daniel in several roles, including if Im not mistaken, George Washington, whom he does you have to admit , resemble, especially in the Admirals uniform here.
That speech is one of the most pertinent and effective I have ever seen on film--whether historically accurate or not. This version of the Bounty saga, is without doubt, the most spectacular and entertaining. Filmed in Tahiti , visually exciting, and best musically scored version of all. With a detailed remake of the ship, ( the REAL Star) taken from original plans (with some added space for filming, and a diesel engine for close maneuvering ) The huge cost almost bankrupted MGM. But, we have a unbeatable film to enjoy for posterity. It is highly unlikely, that spectacular films like this, will ever be made again. BUY IT--I did, AND the 5 disc CD Box-SET.
Philip Croft Yes, a great speech. It actually struck me as one of those transcendent "moments" in film that Jimmy Stewart once alluded to in an old Parkinson interview. I will always remember the power of those final words to the captain.
Philip Croft ... The delivery of the 'dressing-down of Bligh' is a tribute to the power of the English language, properly used... Performances such as this in film have caused me to stop using slang entirely and that alone has caused a noticeable improvement in my command of the language. Henry Daniell was hand-picked for that part, I'm sure.
You ought to read Trevor Howard's biography "A Gentleman and a Player", in which is outlined his *ENORMOUS FRUSTRATION* dealing with Marlon Brando, because of MB's joking attitude toward film making and his improvisations with the script. *No wonder the film sank like a stone at the box office.* (The book is available on the Internet Archive: archive.org/)
As far as i know that's because the real Bligh was not such a monster. He was far from perfect, but he cared for his men and his officers. The reason for the real mutiny was not Bligh. Instead the many months on Tahiti were to blame. Many men lost their discipline through that time and can't get used to it again when they started the long journey home. I like this movie, but historically it's not very accurate.
@@Maverick4583 Am reading that the "Rum Rebellion" was instigated against Bligh, which begs the question of how it is that so many of his subordinates turned on him. There's a there there. Whether it was because of excessive discipline or its lack. More interesting to me is how a historical figure like this is portrayed. Tells you something about a society in which insurrectionists are the good guys and the governor is the bad guy.
@@doriangray2020 i only wrote what i read sometime ago. It is also known that this movie is not historically accurate. The movie with Anthony Hopkins and Mel Gibson is, as far as i know, much more accurate. And in this movie is shown that Bligh is Not the Monster he is believed to be. Like i said, he was not perfect but he also wasnt a total asshole either. But i am curious, what are you talking about?
We must consider a thing: in the XVIII century, a ship as soon as she was far for land, if it was not, a part of a fleet, was absolutely alone and self sustained, without ANY possible help from the base in case of trouble. Any mistake could end in shipwrek and quite certainely death of all the crew. And the crew was made of hard men that respected only force. In XXI th century, when there is GPS, radio and crewmen are often well educated men and women with good attitude and character, there is no need to be harsh. But in XVIIIthh century Captains HAD TO BE as strong as possible
This is based works that drew from the propaganda campaign of the Heywood and Christian families. The Bounty (84?) draws more from subsequent historical research, which, if anything, shows Bligh to be more lax than the typical British captain of his day.
As they say in Sandhurst, "There are no bad soldiers, only bad Officers". But the truth is, Bligh was an excellent Officer. In real life he was acquitted of any wrongdoing and was never reprehended. The fact that he was able to reach Timor in such conditions - I always wondered if he reached Dutch or Portuguese Timor - is absolutely outstanding.
And so it goes with historical fiction & drama. The people were typically real but the dialogue & details are guesswork per the author's & screenwriter's imaginations.
@@nocturnalrecluse1216Yes it is. And that makes it so annoying. I always felt: If you make a work of fiction, make it any way you like. Take real life event as inspiration, but make it clear fiction. But if you take a real life event and keep all the participants in it, then you own it to the participants to be accurate and NOT make it a work of fiction. Even if Bligh was dead at the time the move was made for 150 years, he was a real man. He deserves to be remembered the way he was. If he was a criminal, remember him as such. But he was not. He was a good seaman, he was in general a fair officer, he punished quite little and usually very light compared to the standard of the time and he grew to become a rear admiral in the following years for everybody, admiralty and fellow officers, saw him as a good choice for further promotion. He deserves to be remembered as such OR not at all and be just one of many names one reads in historical documents and maybe a book for proffessional historians. If a filmmaker pulls him out of his rellative obscurity, he owes it to the legacy of the real man Bligh to be accurate.
Bligh was far from unusually strict or harsh by 18th century standards. Captain Cook was more strict, for example, but loved by his crews because he was fair and consistent. The trouble with Bligh, and what made him unfit for any real authority, was that you never knew what might set him off. An offense that earned a reprimand on a Monday could earn flogging on a Tuesday. That's the kind of wild unpredictability that causes mutinies, prison riots, peasant revolts, etc. The tension becomes unbearable and people strike out of fear that the authority will finally destroy them.
The whole expedition was a clusterup from the getgo. Bligh was an excellent navigator and seaman, one of the best in the RN, but he was saddled with a bunch of ner-do-wells, including Fletcher Christian. Bligh did not have an effective First officer, he had to fulfill that role, as well as Captain. The Bounty was both overcrowded and undermanned. In hindsight the voyage was doomed to fail.
"No code can cover all contingencies"....in 32 years as a L.E.O. I only had one boss who was smart enough to realize & acknowledge that...he was a smart cookie
So you spent 32 years telling lies, ruining lives, falsified police reports, perjury, overtime fraud and closing your eyes to police corruption every single day you wore shit covered badge on your chest? That's what cops do.
@@tardis11111 A pure evil piece of schit, trained liar, and the putrid filth of humanity, also known as a "police officer." They set the standard for pure evil government corruption.
AND YET---he later was put in control of one of Australias Colony's, and they rioted against his leadership, and was sent home. Perhaps PEOPLE, wasn't his Forte.
@@shiroamakusa8075 Correction: the historical Bligh most certainly **WAS** a cruel psychopath! Once they reached land, he abandoned all of his shipmates, many of whom died from privation. Even today, for any officer to be termed a "Captain Bligh" is an automatic rebuke...
Here is what Patrick O'Brian says about Bligh, from his Aubrey/Maturin novel "Desolation Island": "Captain Bligh - a capital navigator - very touchy himself, but had no notion of how he offended others - would give you the lie in front of all hands one day and invite you to dinner the next - you never knew where you were with him - led Christian, the master’s mate, a sad life of it, yet probably liked him in his own strange way - never knew where he was with Bounty’s people - no idea at all - was amazed when they turned on him- an odd, whimsical man: had gone to great pains to teach Heywood how to work his lunar observations, yet had sworn his life away with a most inveterate malice - had also brought his carpenter to court-martial for insolence, and that after they had survived the voyage in the launch together - four thousand miles in an open boat, and you bring a man to trial at Spithead!"
Actually, compared to other British commanders of the time he was rather sparing in punishments. He would only dress down crew members where other Captains would've flogged them, and flogged crew members whereas other ship Captains of the time would've executed the wayward crew members.
The 1935 and 1962 versions of the Bounty story were entertaining movies - but both were woefully inaccurate from a strictly historical point of view. Brando's portrayal of Christian makes me want to puke, and not just because he was about 15 years too old and several stone too heavy for the part. Oh, and I don't think the gentlemen of the court would have kept their hats on during the proceedings.
Everyone has their own opinion, I found it the most entertaining of three movies made. The acting from Marlon Brando and Trevor Howard is excellent and it had a very good supporting cast.
As a general rule, from personal memory, officers and enlisted personnel were expected to remove their covers when in-doors, unless they were "on watch", in which case they were expected to remain fully uniformed at all times (however, it was not uncommon in my day for the watch to remove their covers when in-doors ashore). I therefore believe that it was customary when pronouncing a proceeding's verdict for the officers of the board to be fully uniformed, which includes wearing covers, insofar as they were, in a sense "on watch" and in the discharge of their official duties.
@@CaesarInVa Thanks for the detailed reply. Which navy did you serve in? If I understand you correctly, it's definitely "hats on" when pronouncing verdicts or handing down sentences. Does that also apply when they're hearing evidence or legal arguments? (It so happens I've just looked at one of the court-martial scenes from "The Caine Mutiny", in which every officer present is uncovered.)
..."the admiralty has always sought to appoint its officers from the ranks of gentlemen.." nothing like the English class system eh? And it's alive and kicking in 2022!
Bligh was a great man who had dirt thrown on him because some of the mutineers families had political connections. Research what happened to the mutineers on pitcairn, and compare it to blighs career post mutiny. There is no comparison.
To such extent that my English is oficially considered very good (I'm Portuguese) and I felt hard pressed to understand without resorting to the subtitles. It was a very exquisite English indeed! 😬
That movie was a remake of the 1937 film which made Bligh a villain. The Bounty of 1984 was far more factual and showed Bligh to be the man he was. Christian & his mutineers were a rabble and did not want to leave Tahiti, the main cause of all the trouble. Bligh was no flogger, like most captains in those days, including Cook. Bligh retired an Admiral of the Blue.
@@pendorran that’s true, he stopped the “Rum Corps” military dictatorship. They deposed him, yes, but it ended their regime. He was a man with backbone, that’s for sure!
a failure to appoint him???.....yet he went on to command and serve alongside Nelson in the Battle of the Baltic as Captain of HMS Elephant......a ship of the line where even Nelson himself praised his efforts during the battle.
Bligh was an interesting man, he rose from the ranks and so in fact was indeed not a gentleman, he was however an exceptional navigator and seaman, over 4,000 miles in an open boat is remarkable achievement especially in those days. It is entirely possible that he was not harsh enough with the men, and that combined with his up from the ranks status would result in a lack of discipline
Plus, Bounty carried no Marines. The fact is that at the time mutinies were quite common and, despite the noble (and probably unsaid) word, discipline was harsh across the board, coupled with poor conditions of service. Hence the mutinies at Spithead and the Nore soon afterwards. And it should be noted that Bligh's ship was the last to do so. Re Tahiti, I agree. Bligh let is men loose to enjoy the extended stay. He then had to restore that order single-headedly. Christian and the other officers were basically useless and part of the crew wanted to stay there. .We see how they fell apart at Pitcairn. In short. A superb film but total fiction.
the mgm hms bounty from rge marlon brando movie may have sunk off the coast of Florida because of a stupid captain and hurricane sandy however the mel gibsin bounty is floating in Sydney Australia. thank god
Just as an aside. Captain Bligh went on to become a Vice-Admiral and The Governor of New South Wales. He retired to a large townhouse in London which was near to what is now the Imperial War Museum. He had eight children. He collapsed and died of a heart attack on 7th December 1817 aged 63 years in Bond Street, London.
There was also a mutiny against Bligh in Australia when he was Governor of NSW. My understanding is happened when Bligh tried to break up a monopoly that a few select men were getting rich from and they sent him packing back to England.
1:55 "... It is for this reason that the Admiralty has always sought to appoint his officers from the ranks of gentlemen" It is safe to say this no longer applies to those in political power. At least in The Netherlands.
If the later Hopkins movie is to be believed , the mission is of the utmost importance in bringing back the breadfruit to feed the slaves . Bligh was not at fault in carrying out this task, however , I am sure the Admiralty would not condone the crew of the Bounty setting up homes on the Island and starting families there . This wasnt the end of Bligh as he fought alongside Nelson at Trafalger and then went on to run a coffee plantation before being sacked by the island governors .
Wise. Apt. And completely lost on many people reading it today who staunchly believe what they're told regardless of the decency (or lack thereof) behind it.
Implying that someone was not a gentleman in that era would be absolutely devastating. He would certainly have never received another appointment. Moreover, he would have been finished in polite society. In fact, the Admiralty never made those comments and Blithe had a fine career after Bounty.
@@alexkilgour1328 I've no idea where you get this from. It was one of the very few careers open to younger sons of the nobility. George V was a naval officer for about a decade, starting as a midshipman.
An excess of zeal cannot be condemned..... should be questionable. When the seamen are deprived of drinking fresh water and resort to sea water. Inhumane zeal is condemnable.
Blighs biggest mistake was that he took no marines on board bounty. Cook and flinders took note and had a complement of men is scarlet to keep the peace.
After what is considered the most amazing open water journey, Captain Bligh went on to deliver bread fruit. Cristian endeded up getting killed. Three voyages.
The initial inquiry wouldn't have had such a statement because only Bligh and crew loyal to him were heard. Later after the Court Martial of the mutineers who were captured were tried (some were found innocent, some pardoned and some hanged) and Fletcher Christian's brother wrote an expose on Bligh's treatment of the crew, the Navy's opinion (and the public's) of Bligh's behavior changed. He still had a long career, but he was given a Court Martial for using bad language against his officers at one point and was not given sea duty.
@@normanbraslow7902 Didn`t Bligh go on to govern a colony in Australia? I seem to recall they mutinied against him too. That`s just from memory ,maybe I`m wrong. I know that after a lifetime of reading history and all its alternative views and theories ,often the reality is that which was the common belief at the time.
BillyCaspersGhost, You are right. It's an interesting story. Read Caroline Johnson's book on the mutiny as she gives a very good account of it. In brief, the established British Army officers there had formed a very corrupt criminal organization. Bligh tried to correct the situation, and they forced him to take refuge in Royal Navy ship offshore. He refused to leave until properly replaced. As I recall, the Army officers were punished. He was the CO on a ship during the famous Spithead Mutiny when a dozen or so ships crews refused to sail due several captains and other officers gross mistreatment. Bligh was not one of the COs the crews accused of mistreatment. Bligh intervened to prevent several of his crew from being punished. Later Bligh was the CO of a ship at the Battle of Copenhagen under Admiral Nelson and conducted himself with such bravery that Nelson personally congratulated him in public on Nelson's ship. Bligh had his faults, but he was a consummate Royal Navy officer.
Well, that's kind of the fog of history. Bligh wasn't a Captain. He was a lieutenant, and an old one at that. They called him "Captain" out of respect for his position. Christian, also a Lieutenant, actually "out-ranked" Bligh socially. Bligh came up through the ranks. Christian was born into it and thus, a "proper gentleman". Things get murky here. Although Bligh wasn't "high-born", he wasn't a commoner either. By 1700's standards, he was a potty mouth. Something a gentleman simply doesn't do. There was a lot in play, social circles and political circles.
A great scene, but the (fictional) court would have had to consider the illegal (and fictional) keelhauling incident when it was judging whether or not the captain had administered justice "according to the articles of war": there would, of course, have been witnesses to it among the crewmen who returned with Bligh.
Anon Anon yes, but l believe most of those who returned back were in fact very scared of Bligh, and they knew he is from another class and will have friends who will be commanders of other ships these seamen will eventually embark into.
@@randynundlall2601 If Bligh had actually killed a crewman by keelhauling him, something would have gone in the ship's log, if only to register mendaciously that the man had died during some kind of lawful punishment (e.g. flogging). I always thought that Christian was the one with the influential friends, rather than Bligh.
Anon Anon yes, quite right, but l am very tempted to think that he might have omitted that entry, he was in charge of the logbook. But yes, they simply disregarded it. Not nice!
Probably the most exciting to watch, but not the most historically accurate. Bligh was a basket case and a half, but not in the way he's portrayed here. He was always accusing his officers (not his men - his officers!) of ridiculous crimes like stealing his coconuts.
@@morten1 Anthony Hopkins might be as good, or even better, an actor than Trevor Howard, however Mel Gibson is definitely no Marlon Brando, who I would even rate higher than Clark Gable. I would rate Charles Laughton equal to Howard. 1935 to 1962 to 1984. We seem to be overdue for another remake.
Real life: Captain Bligh went on to become a Vice-Admiral and The Governor of New South Wales. He retired to a large townhouse in London which was near to what is now the Imperial War Museum. He had eight children. He collapsed and died of a heart attack on 7th December 1817 aged 63 years in Bond Street, London
In such a small part, Henry Daniell commanded the screen and delivered this brilliantly written speech like a master. My admiration for him began with “Sherlock Holmes and the Woman in Green,” where he portrayed Basil Rathbone’s favourite Professor Moriarty. And then there was one of the greatest swashbucklers of all time, “The Sea Hawk,” in which he crossed swords with Errol Flynn.
Dishonour is worse than death some say! Perhaps but I've had no corpse yet give their opinion on that but I'll get back to you all if any change occurs . Good day......I SAID GOOD DAY!
I wonder if this addendum from 1:00 onwards is accurate to historical record. After HMS Bounty's loss, Bligh was given command of nine HM warships, including four ships of the line. Presumably he had the confidence of the Admiralty.
Easy for an Admiral sitting in the comfort of the Admiralty Building to pass judgment on an officer of the line commanding a crew of hard Jacks. You have to be firm but fair. Not brutal.
why do all these movies depict captain blythe as a senile man? he was only 33 years old ERGO the reason the mutiny was POSSIBLE he was too young and he lost control
What happened later in Pitcairn was horrible. They actually slaughtered each other to the last, including Fletcher Christian who was killed with an axe.
If you drive the crew to mutnie thiers defenetly some thing wrong .Thats why the court added a coment. Also thier was another storie wear mutnie came for blyth after the BUNTY
It is amazing the acting Daniel Day Lewis who played the hated "Captain Fryer", seemed like a gentlemen in the 1984 "The Bounty", unlike the absolute monsters he played "Gangs of New York" and "There will be blood".
I was a kid the first time I saw that scene and was outraged at what I perceived as a class sleight by snooty British officers. In the years since, I don't believe anyone could have done a bigger 180 on anything than I have done on that officer's comments. And at no point in history have they been more pertinent than today. No, you cannot put justice aboard ships in books, and by God, you cannot create it in society by some notional "system" which will denote the end of history by declaring anyone with an opinion you don’t like a "racist"or a "nazi".
This is an example of why Britain and its former colonies - America, Canada, Australia, and New Zealand became the most prosperous countries in the world and why the rest of the world wants to live in these countries today, whereas most of the former Spanish and French colonies are corrupt and impoverished. Two former British colonies in Africa, Zimbabwe, formerly Rhodesia, and South Africa had the strongest economies and were by far the richest on that continent with Rhodesia being nicknamed 'the breadbasket of Africa'. However, as soon as they were handed back to the indigenous people it didn't take too long for both countries to fall into economic chaos and social disorder.
Emotional people fall for this type of feel-good criticism that meant NOTHING. The snide remarks at the court marital in 1790 didn't hurt Bligh's career at all. Bligh had a highly successful career after the Bounty. He commanded many British Warships, including Ships of the Line during the Napoleonic wars where decisiveness and toughness was rewarded. He died in service at the age of 63 in 1817 as a Vice-Admiral after having successfully served as a rear-Admiral from 1810. The fate of the mutineers was far less happy.
