Box Blade Abuse!!!

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John Deere 2038R with Tufline Boxblade and Heavy Hitch toothbar tackle removing an old rock parking area to create a sidewalk to a playground. The Ventrac 4500 with power rake helps out! The "rock" was actually concrete and very difficult to remove. Tractor Time withTim realized we should have attacked the project differently after several hours trying to remove this hardened stone. We just didn't have the right equipment and misunderstood the final goal for the project.
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@ritterjon 5 лет назад

💥 I’m glad that you did publish this. Just goes to show this is real life and mistakes happen. Hopefully someone will learn from your mistake. Keep on tractoring!

@edwardcullen5705 5 лет назад

I have done alot of work for alot of different contractors and alot of them get mad when you ask too many questions. But I don't care because you have to understand exactly what they want you to do or you run in to situations like this. You will be imagining they want one thing and they want something totally different. Excellent video, great for others to learn from.

@jlbush8249 5 лет назад

Edward Cullen Exactly, poor communication by both parties.

@steventhomson2042 5 лет назад

So many thoughts on this video. First, thank you for publishing! This is real world and I feel one of your very best video’s. Second, I like when you try so many tools for the job, you answered the what if’s. Third, your honesty is second to none! Absolutely great! Thank you!!!

@JHT56 5 лет назад

I like that you try to do jobs with tool not necessarily the best to use . Y’all doing a great job informing about tractors and attachments. I also like that you show you can have some fun doing your videos. Have a great day.

@artillerybuff2000 7 месяцев назад

My goodness, this was hard to watch. You really know how to test the limits of your equipment!

@TractorTimewithTim 7 месяцев назад

Yea, this was pretty rough. Not only on the blade, but the rear tires on that tractor took a beating/

@ajames259 5 лет назад

Tim, Great example of what things can go happen on a job. As a experience operator, you did you best using the box blade in a abusive environment. when I worked a high end landscape company, there was plenty of times my crew had to improvise on the job with pushing my equipment as much without causing to much harm or abuse. That's the reason I like y'all's video's. It's real life experience and nothing is sugar costed or scripted like HGTV. Y'all show what it takes and what all can happen both good and bad. Keep up the good work!

@19jdjnr 5 лет назад

I’m glad you posted this video. It shows the importance of making sure everyone’s on the same page before starting a job. You’re definitely not alone, things like this happen to everyone

@inspectorsj 5 лет назад

I'm with some of the other guys. I'm glad you posted because now we know what it takes to dig through that 304 if that's what it will is or the 411

@nanomaine 4 года назад

I spent significant time looking at all the tooth bar designs I could find, and decided on the Heavy Hitch. Now that I've used the HH for a few months, I'm glad I chose it! The teeth on the HH, are incredibly useful, for breaking up sod, scarifying hard ground, and digging up rocks and roots. I discovered, that my Titan clamp on pallet forks - clamp on right over the tooth bar. That lets me leave the tooth bar on, all the time. The Heavy Hitch Tooth Bar, is a fantastic tractor upgrade!

@WhoDaBoss-dc4or 5 лет назад

Oh wow ! There's a big lesson here about fully communicating exactly what your end goal is and another about completely understanding the needs of the customer. I guess it's important to keep in mind that the customer may not totally understand exactly what they want or the capabilities of the equipment. Thanks for sharing 👍

@michaelmactavish1728 5 лет назад

we done that with the 400hp case it 24foot hla snow wing blade

@richpicone7788 5 лет назад

When in doubt, publish the video!! It’s good to see all situations, even when they can be frustrating.

@timkd5vmv583 5 лет назад

That was a real life situation that we can all sympathize with. I have unfortunately tore up several pieces of equipment over the years attempting to do things that it may not have been designed for. Thanks for posting this one!! God Bless!! The Other Tim With Tractors

@woodrowcaudle 5 лет назад

You're definitely right about using what you have to do the job. I couldn't justify the cost of a sub compact when I bought a new yard tractor, but I wish I had. I had to regrade my yard and build a pad for a storage shed with a John Deere X570 and a 40 inch shovel blade. Plus dug a 4 foot deep hole to remove an old basketball goal. I'll keep watching your videos and thinking how much easier my jobs would be.

@robertkahn4284 5 лет назад

I have a hard packed parking lot similar to this but with no concrete underneath. I’ve been considering buying a box blade to help bring it back to life, and maintain it, instead of just continuing to put new stone on top and filling the same old potholes. After watching this video, and reading some of the suggestions in the comments, I think the box blade is my best bet. The suggestions about using less scarifies seems to be good advice. Also, the job is for myself so I can take my time which will hopefully be easier on the equipment.

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

As long as not concrete, you will be fine. Less scarifiers is fine as long as your blade is strong enough to handle it. Mine would not have been

@Norseman220 5 лет назад

Hehehe..... Good to see I'm not the only one to screw up occasionally.. Great video Tim. Keep up the good work.

@brosselot1 5 лет назад

This is a good video. It shows that mistakes are made in real life. Like my father told me before he left this world. If you want your equipment to stay new leave them in the shed. As a contractor I always know the scope of work and design. This seems like a case of the designer did not explaining the job very well. And you couldn't bring the right equipment. Thanks for sharing. Now we get to see a repair video in the shop

@aideningram434 5 лет назад

Tim those land pride box blades are tough do not worry about tearing it up

@TallTexasGMan 5 лет назад

I like that you did publish. This is also an all to common problem, not fully understanding the end result of a project. We see this all to often around us. I would have questioned why they were switching to crossties for pouring concrete, they used standard form boards previously. But, in all honesty you should have brought Casey2 to the party. It could have dug out the concrete with relative ease.

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Casey is gone for the moment. Went away to a trade show, and seems to be enjoying the fame! Not sure when he will be back!

@cledussnow3935 5 лет назад

It wasn’t that you didn’t understand the end goal, I think it was more poor explanation of what the end goal was before you showed up for the job. But by sharing this Tim it shows that everyone needs to understand the job before the job is started. We had a job like that at work this summer.

@jlbush8249 5 лет назад

Cledus Snow He said only about 6 inches comes out to make a place for the ties, which immediately made my think of a six inch backhoe bucket, as it would made sense the ties would be buried a little deeper than the surrounding area to hold them in place. Seemed clear from what we heard in the video. Therefore, I was surprised when he started ripping a large area. However, I’m not sure why he wasn’t stopped by the customer when he began to rip the whole place to pieces if that’s not what the customer wanted. Seems like a lack of communication by both parties.

@fyrman9092 5 лет назад

As with life in general, communication is key. Messages are subject to interpretation. While the project sounded simple, sometimes a drawing can make the vision better understood.

@dougcard4311 5 лет назад

I have found everybody thinks they know what they want. In a lot of cases they don't know as much as they think they do. You have to play 20 questions with them, until you find out.

@jeffreid3341 5 лет назад

I'm a contractor and and couldn't agree with you enough.

@Harry-zz2oh 3 года назад

Sometimes writing things down and discussing it with everyone involved helps to clarify what the real purpose is for the project. I've worked on projects where the ultimate goal was not understood by those involved in completing the project. If not clarified right away, you waste time and money chasing in different directions. Write things down, clarify the ultimate purpose, then lay out the project in bite size bits with the purpose for each bite. This will help get you to the final goal of a completed project. Doing it this way may seem "wasteful" but it will reduce the amount of work to be redone. It also ensures everyone knows what is planned and when it is planned to be done. Very helpful if it takes more than one day to complete the project.

@firstratelawnservice 4 года назад

Your making us ventrac owners look bad Tim, when that stump grinder fell off.

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

Nah! You can show folks how I’m the only one stupid enough to do that!

@eosjoe565 5 лет назад

You sure are right about the Auto Throttle on Johnny2. I think a video with some guidelines and examples of when to USE and NOT use Auto Throttle. I've seen countless videos of folks putting around at or near idle doing loader and dirt work when they probably would have been better served to just set the throttle around half and let it there. About the only good use I've seen for the Auto Throttle is when plowing snow. It gives higher RPMs when you are pushing the snow pile and then idles back down when you stop.

@ashtonstanley6036 5 лет назад

I've got a question couldn't you reverse the hydraulic cylinders around on the front bucket and be able to push with the bucket because the hydraulic cylinder would be inside the cylinder?

@kentonlandworks29 5 лет назад

Tim, you need a hydraulic top link! Makes a HUGE difference on that box blade!

@akbychoice 5 лет назад

LOL. I worked with that guy Lazy, funny how he worked when the boss was around. Seems he showed up at many places. Maybe just have two or three of the box blade teeth down when ripping? I guess he should have been more clear what they wanted. We all learn ( hopefully ) from our own mistakes. Maybe get a ripper tooth that goes in place of the bucket or the 1025R backhoe, then you could rip up small areas like you needed here just to place the RRTies 1/2 way below grade?

@dalewallace8203 5 лет назад

Those scarifiers are around 40 dollars a piece at Rural King I break them often on my king kutter box blade when I use it on my 50 horse Kubota with wheel weights normally on chunks of concrete. Once I got a spot where they cleaned out to chute on cement truck and it got covered over by gravel and ripped it up and broke two of them. But as you said the box blade still looks good.

@bobpurs 5 лет назад

Some tasks are just frustrating

@Wolfhound. 5 лет назад

i do not know for sure but i think tufline would be proud to see it at its limits

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

We’ll soon find out!!!

@alphonsotate2982 5 лет назад

YES CASEY AND JOHNNY WITH A BACKHOE

@HighRoad317 3 года назад

Great patience, great box blade. Still not 100% on what the finished project was.

@runnikee6986 4 года назад

I miss when Johnny was in all your videos. As a somewhat affordable option, those videos were really helpful about how to use a sub-compact. Now you have so many toys that the original helpfulness and relatability of the channel seems lost. Most people aren’t going to have a barn full of various tractor sizes and manufacturers. The versatility of Johnny that was so prominent in the early years seems to have gone by the wayside for buying more and bigger any chance you get.

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

I hear you Nolan, but I would urge you to take a second look. We still feature the 1025r in many episodes. Probably more than any other tractor. We publish more frequently now, so I suspect we publish as many 1025r episodes as we ever did. Having said that, even when we use a larger or different machine, we often discuss how it compares to the 1025r for the task at hand. Would the 1025r be able to do the job? Would it be able to do it as well? Better? We used to be asked all these questions, but we couldn’t answer them. Now we CAN and DO answer them. The increased number of attachments is intended to show what is available. Obviously, no one will have all of the attachments we have. It would not make sense! But, hopefully by seeing the wide range available, you can choose the one or two which fit your needs. Just some food for thought. Thanks for your feedback.

@runnikee6986 4 года назад

Tractor Time with Tim I appreciate the time you took to respond and that you put into your videos. I do enjoy your channel. I watch nearly all of your videos. Just to expand on my original response, here are your most recent six videos and the tractor/equipment featured in each: Hobby Farmer! Planting Sweet Corn - 2038R Flex Wing Mower - Johnny 5 Lawn Fertilization and Grass Seeding - Gator and Ventrac Subcompact Tractor...Perfect for Garden - 1025R!! New Disk & Move Horse Hooey - Johnny 5 Getting Rid of Old Well/Cistern - 2038R

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

...and I appreciate your feedback...so please don’t take my replies as argumentative...just probing for more detail/understanding! Regarding the previous video list, Hobby Farmer features the 1025r as well. So, two of those 6. One per week for the last two weeks. For fun, let’s look at the next six in history. ‘Testing the limits’ - 1025r ‘Talking Tillers’ - 1025r ...or more generally, subcompact tractors Stick a pallet fork ... 2038r (sides too tall for Johnny) New technology - Truck and trailer Tuesday Farm cleanup - 2038r. ...we took only one tractor on the 200 mile trip...and we just didn’t think Johnny was big enough for the planned tasks. Maybe we were wrong. OTC removal - 1025r. So, 3 of that group of six. 5 episodes in 4 weeks. That is probably about normal for us now. Why? I’ll explain. Frankly, we kinda ran out of content for the 1025r. We have found that when we show the same attachments on the same types of projects repeatedly, the view counts (viewer interest) declines. We are CONSTANTLY on the hunt for something new to do with the 1025r. We try to use the 1025r on each project where it can do the job. When we talk with potential sponsors, we specifically push for 1025r capable attachments. Sometimes we can find one (like the stump grinder), sometimes we cannot. Now, I have a question for you! I assume you have a 1025r. Do you ever ponder the idea of moving up a size? We get this question so much that we expect that most 1025r owners are asking themselves this question. Maybe not seriously, but they still wonder... We hope to show the 2038r in this light. Now, when speaking of the Ventrac, I understand your point fully! We struggle with this machine. It is so incredibly capable at many tasks that we don’t have another machine to handle (for example, the power rake). It is difficult for us to leave it home when it is clearly the best tool for a given project. ...but we know that it is less attainable and relatable than a 1025r. So, we may have to make some changes there. Email me. Tim at tractor time with Tim dot com with some of your ideas for future 1025r episodes. We’re eager to find new topics to cover. Again, thanks for your feedback!

@MrNosajwhitey 4 года назад

Awesomeness

@funbricknj 5 лет назад

well look at the bright side the guy could have said we are putting a pool over here. you would have dug down 8 foot only to have the pool guy pull up and ask you "where is the above ground pool going" most bad jobs comes from not understanding what the others is planning to do. like you said you could have done it an easier way. that looked like it might have been a parking lot at one time or the floor of a building that one time was there

@doseven 5 лет назад

The company agri-supply has good prices on replacement scarifiers. If you are looking for a source.

@doseven 5 лет назад

Www.agrisupply.com and search box blade shank. They have various ones that are hardened on the tip, hardened throughout, as well as attachment type and length.

@timbarlow5762 5 лет назад

That's all part of it🤔

@packo8888 5 лет назад

poor johnny 2, That was a job for a D3 dozer maybe. Aloha from Hawaii.

@sipthewater 3 года назад

Tractor too small for that project. But you are learning.

@TractorTimewithTim 3 года назад

Welcome to our channel. Check out some of our other episodes!

@OneStepHomestead 4 года назад

Ive never run a boxblade.......but i have run a d6! Yup.....if it jumps too much take a ripper out and try. I would take every other one out and try that......once youve broken the crust... then you can add them back in and help crumble everything back out.ive seen 3pt hitch just 1 ripper tooth thats alot bigger and stronger that i think should be better to at least loosen before the box blade. Now for you being reluctant to share this misunderstanding....... everyone is human......wouldnt be normal if you cant learn one way or another. BUT sharing your mistakes in my opinion takes a true bare bone strong human to do! Most people wouldnt even try to admit thier mistakes let alone learn from them. God bless. Ps......if i had 5hrs to watch.....i would.....its all learning

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

Welcome to our channel (I see several great comments from you)! Thanks for the kind words! Keep watching! We have 550+ episodes now. The first 65 are numbered. Some folks say our first episodes are the best. Of course, the video quality (editing, audio, etc) is not as good, but folks seem to like that early content.

@OneStepHomestead 4 года назад

@@TractorTimewithTim ive been subbed on my own channel that i dont put videos on and This is our family channel. Im Anthony thibeault. Ive commented before. Sorry for the confusion.

@OneStepHomestead 4 года назад

Been watching for a while now. But working 65-70 hours a week i dont have much time to keep up with all the videos on all my favorite channels so as they build up........when i get back to the channel i binge watch them all till im caught up lol

@waltermattson5566 5 лет назад

You proved we should understand what the job is. Wouldn’t you consider Casey for a job like this?

@waltermattson5566 5 лет назад

Good job on the video.

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Casey is not here right now. He went to a trade show...hasn’t yet found his way home.

@larryshedd5734 5 лет назад

That's concrete washout from concrete plant

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Don’t think so Larry...as there was too much of it, and it was too consistent. Roughly 2 inches thick all the way across there.

@qfdforme 5 лет назад

Holy buckets of concrete. Your customer, who appeared to disappear, had no idea what he wanted. Why remove that 2” concrete base when all he wanted was to have it bordered with flush set railroad ties?

@qfdforme 5 лет назад

Like you said the video you could have easily used your backhoe to dig a railroad tie trench.

@qfdforme 5 лет назад

...In the video...

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Hindsight. Easy to throw folks under the bus in hindsight. We didn’t know what we didn’t know.

@qfdforme 5 лет назад

I will do it for you 😀

@joeyshofner639 5 лет назад

Live and learn. 🤪🤭😅😃

@OneStepHomestead 4 года назад

Lmao.........yup.....have had a few id-10-t codes in my onboard computer many times......still do at times lol.... About 2mo ago i knew the trail was leaning a bit hard to my right (i run a 630d tigercat skidder in north maine woods) and it was on a hard rock ledge......my skidder has chains on it and i stupidly stopped fairly quick and ya.......metal on hard rock i slid down and up against a damn tree......had to wait for the escavator to get me out. I knew better.....just ya...... id-10-t

@eoj1001 4 года назад

I know you got a concrete saw attachment and a jackhammer attached to a backhoe. Dig deeper in your stash of equipment. Maby not. Seat time is supposed to be enjoyable.

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

oh how I wish I still had the breaker! Would have been the perfect tool for this job!

@jlbush8249 5 лет назад

You were trying to go too deep with the rippers. Hard surfaces require very shallow pass after pass. Additionally, keep all the loose material pulled out of the way as it adds more weight to the box blade and makes ripping even harder. Of course the rippers need to be raised to pull out the loose material. Expect it to be very slow and take a lot of time on hard surfaces, and constant raising and lowering the rippers for hard and loose material. Additionally, your box angle looked a little too aggressive for a hard packed surface. Overall, you got er done and that’s all that matters in the end. Equipment can be repaired, our pride and reputation not so much.

@hsmith3844 5 лет назад

Don't worry I damage parts on my Deere consistently.

@jlbush8249 5 лет назад

H Smith Then you are doing it wrong.

@darkwinter6028 5 лет назад

No plans? Not even a sketch?

@kaseycasece1340 4 года назад

BOX BLADE BEST WAY TO GO , NEED WEIGHT ON THE REAR / NEED LET WIFE DRIVE AN U STAND ON REAR BOX BLADE , MIGHT HAVE BETTER

@TractorTimewithTim 4 года назад

welcome back, kasey. Hadn't seen you posting comments for several weeks until today!

@williamriley2528 5 лет назад

I'd be more worried about a transmission than a box blade...

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Ha! No worries about the transmission in my opinion!

@williamriley2528 5 лет назад

@@TractorTimewithTim Apparently you didn't see all 4 tires stalled or spinning...

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

I did see (and feel) all 4 ...well at times 3 of 4...never all 4....tires slipping. That will not damage the transmission. Where did you get THAT idea?

@williamriley2528 5 лет назад

@@TractorTimewithTim I wasn't as concerned about the slipping as much as the stalling...

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Again, so what? How will this hurt the transmission?

@larryshedd5734 5 лет назад

Would have used excavator

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Of course...hindsight is great isn’t it! We don’t have Casey right now.

@larryshedd5734 5 лет назад

@@TractorTimewithTim oh didn't know you didn't have Case excavator. Tim that looks like washout from concrete plant it's wet when put down and very hard when dry. They give that stuff away for free if you have truck. You had very tough day.

@larryshedd5734 5 лет назад

You need mini and Bobby. Mini is Bobcat excavator for kids and Bobby is skid steer. My boys had all the toys

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Just a simple 8-12” wide trench on each side with any sort of backhoe or excavator would have done the job, and left it in better condition than we did. Unfortunately, I didn’t understand the end goal until too late. Mostly my fault, as I stated in the video.

@peterkoster5053 5 лет назад

Good thing you didnt use a john Deere with there aluminum rear end lol. Just shows how that shouldn't be a turn away.

@hottlimited 5 лет назад

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

@johnc.pepper5358 5 лет назад

Just to let you know a single tooth sub-soiler works pretty good for breaking roots in hard ground as long as you have enough tractor to handle it. I think that it would have been a good choice for that job

@BigGary79 5 лет назад

This was a tough one to watch. I hate seeing equipment get abused, especially from what I assume is a volunteer job where you're already eating all of the transport, fuel, etc... costs. Now you have to add repair cost to it. Tim and Christy, regardless of how bad things are going (the house issues, the flooded yard, this job, etc...) you always seem to have a good attitude. Thanks for posting this, being transparent and hopefully teaching us a lesson along the way. Your channel is a breath of fresh air and one of my favorites.

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Thanks Gary.

@mrgoodwrench1103 5 лет назад

Great video guys. Tim, I have a lot of respect for someone who will not only admit to making a mistake but is also willing to show it. I was always told that a person who makes few mistakes makes little progress.

@theupsideofdownsizing 3 года назад

Mistakes happen. Communication is key. This was almost painful to watch but a lesson for us all. Thanks for having the guts to upload. 👍🏻

@OutdoorswithErik 5 лет назад

Man, that was some chunks of concrete brother! Love the ventrac! Can’t believe your broke one man, warranty time LOL

@hubertsirois5678 5 лет назад

New name for your channel /Torture time with Tim\ ; )

@timothymerkel405 5 лет назад

A clear lesson on why communication is so important. Thank you for this true demonstration. Side question: Did they ever call for a scan on underground utilities?

@zo6rwhp 2 года назад

Gotta give u credit Tim great job.. I woulda felt that ground with my box blade and I woulda said bye bye 👋 to the guy !!

@jamesbainton 5 лет назад

You needed Casey!

@fiorevitola880 5 лет назад

Personally, I would not have treated my tractor and equipment the hard. Furthermore, your customer should have made it clear to you what he wanted. Sorry for the negative thought, but having been in the Army Engineers and construction all of my working life I am used to clarifying things up the first time. I commend you for sticking to it and I personally like your videos. Now I can understand your hesitation to post this.LOL

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Well, we are all volunteers at our church. Many times none of us know exactly what we want or need.

@fiorevitola880 5 лет назад

@@TractorTimewithTim I get it, Church + help+ God

@darkwinter6028 5 лет назад

There’s also a thing that I’ve heard about people doing where they will mix dry concrete with dirt to try to extend the volume... then they get it wet after it’s in place. The result is something tougher than compacted dirt; but not nearly as strong as concrete poured off of a truck.

@cruch9 5 лет назад

Could of taken out all teeth in box blade except 1 or 2 in the center to break it up easier. They probably mixed lime in with the white rock to make it that hard.

@dyannevans9179 5 лет назад

Tim, you of all people you got to be on same page but more u would need a skid steer . Or I your backhoe would have done the job. Better luck on your next job. Ron

@davehudson4607 4 года назад

Hey Tim, sometimes you get into something you just wish you hadn’t. Good work just the same. Power rake was surprising, and disappointing all the same.

@mrelectron6220 5 лет назад

Watching you struggle to break through that crust reminds me of what its like to deal with compacted red clay here in NC.

@thetractorden6189 3 года назад

Definitely took the harder path on this job. My first thoughts were backhoe, backhoe with a ripper or a middle Buster. Then when you explained the final goal and what you should have done. I slapped my forehead and said “DOH!!!” That would have been so much easier

@MARKLOCKWOOD2012 5 лет назад

This teaches what not to use your box blade for what it can take and not.maybe they need to have one to use in all things.

@MichaelSmith-os1pp 5 лет назад

"I wish I didn't have to" Kristie you are funny. I know it must be hard to film Tim working and watching him do the crazy things he does and still keep the camera still and rolling. Good job on getting it done even though it was tougher than you thought. Nice video work as well.

@jimbo8317 5 лет назад

I watched this video twice and I believe it's actually crushed concrete!! We used that for a lot of parking lots and/or driveways coz even tho it crushes down to a road gravel type substance, once it's laid down correctly and once it gets rained on or watered down several times, it will get almost as hard & tough as concrete!!! I worked with alot of crushed concrete in my life and I know a trucking company that put that down in their lot, running semis over it daily & it's still standing today!!! They even dolly semi trailers off on it without using cribbing under the dolly stands & the trailers don't fall or work thru it!!! So yes I believe it gets almost as hard as solid concrete!!! Good episode tho Tim as yes it shows real life the capabilities limitations of these attachments!!!

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

You may be right. Thanks for the kind words.

@lowercherty 5 лет назад

I don't know about box blades but when we rip hard ground with a Cat we only use one or two ripper teeth to match the Cat to the load. Maybe try half the ripper teeth down?

@jlbush8249 5 лет назад

B Laquisha Correct, or not go as deep on each pull with all the teeth down and angle the box so it’s not trying to dig so aggressively.

@flick22601 5 лет назад

I was about to say the same thing.

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

Less scarifiers down would only concentrate the force even further. Yes, would improve the ability to dig, but would destroy the blade even quicker.

@-Dave-is-not-here 5 лет назад

Good video Tim glad you published it too, shows you are human like the rest of us. We make mistakes and learn from them. Plus it shows why my favorite attachment is a box blade they are tough as nails and can do so many things even if they are not really designed for it.

@bvinduck 5 лет назад

FYI- my 2038R loader stand bolt also came free.... Plus, tilt and trim hydraulics help out 110% better use with box blade. good video THANK YOU! Oh I believe the ripper are meant to break or bend so that the main frame does not break.

@HamiltonvilleFarm 5 лет назад

Good call on posting the video Tim. Lessons learned for all of us watching

@ranger6x660 5 лет назад

Well Tim, I give you a lot of credit for showing your man enough to show when you don't have a clue what the actual end game was. Laugh Tim! It was still a good video guy's!

@aaron-sonjapenrod4041 5 лет назад

Thanks for posting, we learn from everything!

@semco72057 5 лет назад

I would say that you was doing that job with the wrong equipment as the box blade was abused during that job. I would have stopped when I first noticed that the box blade was dragging over the area and not digging into it like it should. I think the tires on the back of your tractor is one problem as you can't get the traction you would get with the two other types of tires.

@markpowell4701 5 лет назад

Love the honest, real video's. Thanks, TTWT for all you guys do.

@kevinbaker6168 5 лет назад

You needed a bulldozer with a ripper. Once you got it broke up you could then use the tractor with the loader to move it out of the way.

@tomkeating65 5 лет назад

Hydraulic top link could've been helpful. 🤔🤔🤔

@sign.that.artist 2 года назад

Communication is key bro. But nevertheless, I've learned a lot watching this video.

@dadams5040 5 лет назад

Seems like you have learned a valuable lesson!! Great video and shows your only human!!

@justinbraathen3077 5 лет назад

Tractor Time With Tim : Have you ever looked at the "Gravel Rascal" by ABI equipment? I think it would have mulched up that surface in a few passes. The tool itself is crazy strong, might be made out of the same material as Thor's hammer. The scarifiers depth is controlled by wheels and you can also adjust the angle/pitch to provide additional down force on the tool, it's like having an extra 1000#'s on the tool. Looks like a tough job though! Surprised that the power rake didn't cut right through that.

@mymorristribe 5 лет назад

It sure is pricy though.

@justinbraathen3077 5 лет назад

@@mymorristribe Agreed! That is 3X the cost of any other implement that I own. It definitely does a good job though and I can use my 4-Wheeler or 3-Point tractor. It pretty much pulled my quad apart, so tractor works much better 🤣

@mymorristribe 5 лет назад

Well, thanks for pointing it out. I've been reading up on it now. It does seem to be a better solution than many others out there.

@garymclane3706 5 лет назад

Thanks for publishing this- lots of lessons learned as usual.

@valleytractorservices9310 5 лет назад

Grapple definitely looks like an Everything Attachments design

@Drew6709 5 лет назад

Tim, the boxscraper can take quite a bit of torture. But the weak point is the scarifier attachment. My WOODS BSS72 has pins holding the scarifiers behind the main beam. Instead of pierced through the main beam. You were fairly gentle and I don't see much damage. Might use the boxscraper WITHOUT the quick hitch for jobs like this.

@ericlaker1983 5 лет назад

May I help with some ideas Tim? I got me a box blade this weekend for 1025r. I have spent most the day using and learning how to use it. I have found much similar to what your working in,hard stuff. That if only drop the scarifiers just one hole and adjust the 3rd link on tractor so that you can adjust the depth of the scarifiers. Tilt the box blade front cutting edge is adjusted out of the way. So the front cutting edge can't touch the ground. Hard to explain. Put negative angle on the box blade!. No cutting. I use the negative angle to grade the drive as well. The blade will smooth and fill in and not cut. It work amazing on leaving drive

@Shawn-rq4py 5 лет назад

This is exactly why I have a hydraulic top link. The box blade can be adjusted from the seat front or back depending on how deep or how aggressive you want to dig or whether you’re backing up pushing or forward pulling. You should really try it. You won’t know w how you worked w o one. As far as publishing this video I think it’s great. When we work for others they explain what they want the only way they can. Some folks have an idea of what they want but can’t articulate it well. Sometimes they do just fine but we don’t completely understand what they want. It’s all part of the business.

@jacuzzi7 5 лет назад

Pretty tough condition (actually very tough). I saw multiple times wheels spinning. Tim, do you think R4 tires would have handled little better than R14 ?

@TractorTimewithTim 5 лет назад

No. These tires were fine.

@jacuzzi7 5 лет назад

@@TractorTimewithTim Thank you for an answer. Conditions were almost extreme.

@martineastburn3679 5 лет назад

Maybe laying a soaker hose to melt the hard pack from parking on it for a long time. All to often the design is in someone's head but can't get out in words that others understand. I put mine in LOW and 4-Wdrive and just drive into the stack of rock and I fill the bucket. No jerk action that might fly back and break something. Now you know what West Texas farmers run into - native and natural limestone rock and deep hard dirt. Special equipment is needed for work like that.

@rgamore 5 лет назад

A bonafide excavation contractor would know how to do the job. Your experience is limited to testing equipment for the consumer market-- right? So don't beat yourself up over it. Move on from your mistakes.

@KensSmallEngineRepair 5 лет назад

Vertical scarifier?

@tetonscot8028 5 лет назад

OK Tim that was cringe worthy. Your equipment took a horrible beating. The good thing is it looks like it i made pretty tough. I'm guessing you won't risk that again. good video gives me more confidence it those pieces of equipment.

@allenelmore4570 4 года назад

This shows something we always wrestle with before starting a project, will what we have be the right choice for the job or will the repair costs and time spent be so high that it would be cheaper to just spend the money to rent the right tool. It really was a construction equipment project. Outside of dirt and loose gravel most tractors are just not built for the job, but that doesn't mean you can't get something done if your willing to put in the time pain and effort, but it shows why the rippers on dozers and graders are so heavily built. Great episode, hope you didn't tear up to much that you didn't notice.

@Vikingknight2012 5 лет назад

Hard to tell in the video but after you got a small section out were you working away from it or into it? Working away from the open section you were fighting the entire mass, working into it in small sections would be less resistance I would think. Am I missing something about my way of thinking?