Bravo Two Zero: SAS Veteran On Being Part Of The Failed Gulf War Mission 

Good one. 🤣🙏🏻

Or if you are a poacher, peoples dogs. You have to hope they are just being walked & are not the Gamekeepers!!

One thing that never seems to get taken seriously in modern Western military training is that the most likely environment will be low or mid-intensity and there WILL be civilians around that have to be dealt with..."you don't operate in a vacuum".

@@brimstone33 that is unless of course you’re a member of the U.S Army Astronaut Detachment.

True dat! The least friendly of all farming careers 😂

I would absolutely LOVE to meet Chris and sit listening to him tell me stories or his days in service. He’s from a village about half a mile from me, just south west of Newcastle city centre. I’ve no idea if he still lives there

He was delirious through lack of food and water!

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He’s a self pitying narcissistic liar. His books are dreadful ghostwritten fiction.

Hahaha 😂

These guys are trained to live THREE months in the middle of Nowhere with no supplies psychologically trained to ignore pain and hunger these aren’t REGULAR ppl

What's the show we have, Nacked and afraid for 21 days, no clothes, not professionals and a lot of them prevail.

Training no doubt saved his life. But civilians are capable of remarkable feats of survival. What about the girl who walked out of the Amazon after falling 3000 feet when her plane broke apart.

Jesus and Moses fasted 40 days!

Jesus and Moses fasted 40 days!

Except this story is false and was proven to be BS.

@@lansdown041 YOU are the only one to ever say this.

There's plenty of proof and videos on RU-vid. Check it out for yourselves.

@@lansdown041 there’s plenty of videos on RU-vid ‘proving’ the earth is flat. It’s just for nimrods like you that lap it up 😂

@@lansdown041 Andy mcnabs version of events in Bravo two zero was exaggerated but Chris Ryan's recollection was pretty spot on.

No; true wisdom comes from getting a PhD in Lesbian Dance Theory from the University of Fairyland

@Sverð Skjöld More like when Iraq went into Kuwait.

It will be matched, or surpassed, by the next person who makes up a similar story.

@@habichiblah7534 The distance he covered to get out of there was not made up.

@@colinwilliamgraham hehe, yeah, right you are

@@zx7-rr486 amazing how the internet warriors know it all eh?

Did he have the decency to give you a reach around?

Watch the Michael Asher show where he retraced their steps and speaks to the locals in the area, it's free on RU-vid

What the books say isn't relevant. The books can be fictionalised as these guys don't need to report the facts to you. This has come up a lot since. Its well documented the official debrief does not match the books and it doesn't need to.

Soldier 5 was taken off the shelf. Very hard to get a copy now.

'The Real Bravo 2 Zero' is a key read. It discloses the first name of Andy McNab - 'Steven' in it. Something which 'Andy McNab' tried to stop being printed in that book...

@@Obi-Wan81 Wikipedia also discloses the real names of McNab and Ryan.

180+ miles walking no food no water not sure a lot can prep you for that 🤯

@@BoSSLeVeLs that's why there's not many sas

Shhhhh little man

Kinda puts Philip Schofields brave coming out into perspective...👍

Really? So how come Colin (aka ‘Chris’) claims they only had two weapons and he lost his pack? What part of their training is being deployed there? This video is littered with utter fabrication. Even without specialist background knowledge, his body language gives him away.

Thank you's?? Its been proven more than once that this guy along with mcnab are a pair of liars

@Justin? Who’s Justin.? No he's correct.....embellished a story.....I know dinger and he cringes at this.

@Justin? Who’s Justin.? clearly you need to do more research and reading.The failed Bravo two zero "story" was completely debunked years a go.the guy is FOS.Your Tour of duty gaming console awaits you Brolio

@@kf8575 he said a flock of goats lol...flock is birds, herd is goats lol

Are they aliens?

Incredible story you should get his book, Andy McNabb's books are really good to 👍

@@seanbarker9272 hahaha, they are B.S.

@@Military872 the SAS have to go through hell on selection please don't type anything else you're embarrassing yourself and showing ignorance

@@seanbarker9272 Your lack of knowledge shows, Mc Nabbs books were full of nonsense, and i can write what i want.

@@Military872 You seem to know alot. Please enlighten me.

HAWAY THE LADS!

Or, imagine the stories he couldn't tell, they're the ones we really want to hear.

Lone Survivor was the same fate too eh?

@@1anre yeah thats another one that got stumbled upon by goats and goat herders. 🙂

and dogs

Yeshua Is Lord Then lied about there being 250 of them in books to profit from their ineptitude. No one in the SF community respects them. Only idiots on the internet believe them.

@@G58 whatever the numbers their plan was faulty. The entire SEAL platoon should have deployed, and set up a patrol base with a retrans site at the top of the mountain.

I bet he was…….

That’s all it is … stories, especially the one that got away.

hear hear

@Blob B And could not have kids anymore. Also some type of blood disorder.

Do you remember the gulf war I was very young at the time

Correct. Michael Asher has proved them both to be fantasists and common liars.

You based your opinion on Michael Ashers book; The Real Bravo Two Zero didn't you? Well, read his novel Code of Combat and explain the glaring errors Asher makes there, and consider that The Real Bravo Two Zero is just as flawed. He makes mistakes no soldier would make, like pulling hand grenade pins with his teeth. If that is his level of competency after supposedly being in the British Army, then I begin to doubt his 'research.'

Real Men stay home and look after their families not travel overseas to kill

@@Karl-Benny Who does the dirty work so that they are able to do that?

@@Karl-Benny Next time we have threats like the Nazis I assume we can rely on you to stay at home being a “real man” and leave the difficult work to someone else…

Security. Unless you are certain of your informants.

The services rarely ask civvies for advice even if you're "ex" and you've been in location for a while.

Well Mcnab lead them through the toughest conditions and some heavy firefights. Michael Asher story is very easy to pick apart.

Least you misunderstand, Asher proved that nothing (or very little at best) actually took place as McNab (Steven Mitchel, by the way) claimed. The detritus which is common throughout world battle fields was missing. If you go to Libya, where the Battle of Tobrook (sorry about the spelling), in which the Allies defeated the Germans during WW2, is still littered with hulks of destroyed tanks and field pieces from the battle, some 70odd years later. When Asher went to where McNab claimed his major punch up with Iraqi forces took place, there was none of the scars of war. The lay up point, they claimed they used, didn’t offer any of the observation they claimed. RSM Ratclife, in his book about the Bravo 2 Zero also cast doubt about the veracity of Mr Mitchell’s version. However, don’t get me wrong, he wrote a great book and I have read a lot of what he has written. As battle action books they are as good as they get and un put down able. But let’s not get confused, the SAS use force as a last resort. The ROE of the regiment is to avoid engagement with the enemy, to seek information and reconnoiter the environment. It is their habit of putting themselves in places that other soldiers don’t tread that leads to responses as described by Steven. But don’t get carried away with what the Regiment do and don’t do, if they behaved in the way that Mitchell claimed they did, then they ‘death’ rate of those who failed to beat the clock would be massive and need more than a single clock to record. However, you could find out for yourself, the SAS TA are always looking for quality recruits. Give it a go and find out for yourself what they do and don’t do? I did, and I did it on the basis that I will take 1 day at a time and when they don’t want me anymore that will be the end of it. 2.5 years later, I reached that point.

@@robthomas2216 Well dont get me wrong , I Dont believe mcnabs story. I believe coburn and chris ryans stories. Asher story is very very easy to pick apart. In fact, asher proved chris ryan was right.

Well stated. The decision not to take pinkies proved to be catastrophic. I believe the fabricated stories are to cover their guilt.

Des Powells book sheds more light on the decision to deploy on foot. The thing with Asher’s documentary is hes quick to dismiss anything the Bravo Two Zero lads say but then takes anything said by Iraqis as gospel

Armstrong and Mitchell are just scumbags Vincent was a veteran soldier if anyone of the team couldn't hack it , it was Armstrong and Mitchell Vincent was a legend

@@robinward4056 - 'scumbags?' .... expand please?

@@gregtaylor6146 both lied to make themselves look good, Mitchell lied about Vince who had years more experience than Mitchell and was a veteran of the sas unlike Mitchell who was nothing but a glory hunter and a liar watch Michael asher in the real bravo two zero documentary he retraced the route spoke to the locals who lived in the area at the time

@@robinward4056 - The British army is littered with low-ranked aged 'veterans' who simply plod-on year after year making the same mistakes while younger/fitter/capable men overtake and outrank them, don't blame SM for that, it's just the way it is. Calling either of these ranked/badged time-served individuals 'scumbags' from behind a computer screen strikes me as cowardly in the extreme .... sleep well.

What makes you think they didn't?

It was the worse weather the region had in 30 years. Can’t predict that. Plus the job still needed to be done

@@owainmeurig some of the team died from the cold due to lack of proper clothing.

@@brussels13207 In a way yes but they really died because they had to flee their camp, if they hadn't have been discovered the snow storm would not have killed them becuase I suspect they had enough shelter and supplies to survive.

Especially those cheesecakes...

You do get some interesting visitor/talk in the jail. The best one ive been to inside was a Scottish football ref!

yeah but not enough kit ;-)

​@@howzegoinlad1336Because they rely on themselves and surroundings

How so?

@@henrycornwell7591 asher pretty much lives in the desert he went all the places listed in B2Zero talked to locals let's just say mc nabb used alot of artistic licence to make himself look good

So did Mike Coburn who was on the same patrol as him

He did the same regarding T. E. Lawrence’s accounts too.

@@NatFacker yeah I watched that was really interesting

They’re not elite, they just work hard and can endure extreme pain like no other people

@@kingrobert7246 how aren’t the SAS elite ? 🤣 dumbest thing iv read in a while

Yes I believe it was the Fortuna Glacier from what I read in Eye of the Storm Peter RATCLIFFES SAS RSM Book ? Also if I'm right the Heli pilot who rescued them was a true maverick who pretty much defied the incredible odds stacked against them in flying out massively overloaded ?

Yep, good call Capt sensible. Trouble is, if they listened to people like you, they would never leave the hanger. I met Sheridan when he jumped out of a heli with a 9mm pistol and tried to take prisoner a four man Brit patrol - who he obviously thought were Argies. He didn't seem much of an expert then and perhaps he may displayed a touch of arrogance!

SAS made themselves very unpopular with the rest of the army in the Falklands campaign. They were said to be in danger of being disbanded until the Iran embassy siege.

So why wasn’t this mission/gaffe popularly spoken about?

@@1anre Basically politics, the mistakes made were common knowledge at the time, I wish they were limited to South Georgia but there were more serious decisions made in the Falkands resulting in a great many deaths, these decisions were made by Army top brass and covered up by Army top brass.

The RSM is on record saying that both himself & the CO told Mcnab to take vehicles but he refused. Also they told HQ their escape route would be to go south but they changed their mind and headed to Syria so searching forces were looking in completely the wrong area. In the debriefing B20 gave back at Hereford there was no mention of the huge fire fights they claimed in the book.

Who knows what was lies and what wasn't? I wasn't there. The guy who went to Iraq to "find the truth," Robin Whatsisname, wasn't on the Bravo 2 Zero patrol. He was an ex officer, many years out of the army. Who knows if the people he spoke to were there at the time either? I'm guessing he handed out cash for information, and god knows who told him what. I think the McNab and Ryan books are about as close to the truth as any of us will ever get. I'm happy enough with that. They're good yarns. I've read them both more than once.

@@johnnydiamondsmusic1673 well according to soldier 5s account there wasn't enough vehicles available, the mistakes were made at all levels

Bravo Two Zero by Andy McNab. The One That Got Away by Chris Ryan. Soldier Five by Mike Coburn. The Real Braco Two Zero by Michael Asher. I read those. Are there other published accounts, anyone?

@@andyb6866 Eye of the Storm by the then RSM Peter Ratcliffe I think

Don't believe any of them. All that matters is that men died and suffered and some lived to tell tales. Thus humanity continues, love, hatred, peace and war ad finatum.

I like the version where they all rode out on elephants firing cap-guns, dressed as different cast members from Les Miserables. I think that's the true one.

Not this one, that’s for sure.

@@G58 Chris may be a brave man. And the SAS too. But after hearing him say '' he hallucinated '' , can I assume that he does NOT remember well how many kilometers he walked per day?

Joel Wakayima You wrote: “G58 Chris may be a brave man.” It it bravery or bravado? There’s a difference. “And the SAS too.” Ditto “But after hearing him say '' he hallucinated '' , can I assume that he does NOT remember well how many kilometers he walked per day?” I would imagine you can assume pretty much anything you care to about this thing, it will most likely be as as reliable as any version peddled by anyone involved, except of course not dead ones, they know what really happened...! Peace

Yeah tons of people deserve to earn more than footballers tbh

This is so true!

Make sure we blame them for our mistakes.

Yep, Lone Survivor... damn goats again.

They did.

If the choice is going without a cup of tea for a week or him getting to grips with some virgins - what would you do? I call to mind a quote from a source I can't recall now but someone involved with a similar incident (unsure where or when I heard/read this but it has always stuck in my mind) We're the SAS not the SS. Long may they live up to that statement whoever made it.

5 dancing israelis

@@bobbuilder7542 cut that out

@@somtimesieat2411 why? Israel lied to MI6 and the uk about Saddam's weapons of mass destruction so we would take one of there enemies out

@Ron Jeremy - no sisters , but I know your mother's middle name !!!

@@bobbuilder7542 Everyone lies if we were lied to in the Gulf War II it's because we wanted to be. Somewhere on RU-vid there is or was a documentary by Max Hastings on the legacy of The Falklands. Without The Falklands Factor Margaret Thatcher's performance in the next election would have been a failure. The next by-election after The Falklands saw a desperately trounced Labour Party lose to a newly resurgent Conservative Party. The Labour candidate who lost was one Tony Blair. He was always impressed by the idea of short successful popular wars. Methinks we wanted to be lied to.

Is that why Steven Billy Mitchell isn’t welcome at ‘Hereford’ or the SF Club? And why does Colin Armstrong still call himself “Chris Ryan”? When I met him at Henley, DLB claimed he gave them their operational cover names. Are they still operating...? The word ‘legend’ has more than one meaning. Look it up. And stop worshiping professional liars.

Because the book is half fiction.

​@@snowflakemelter1172 Half? That's a conservative estimate.

@@snowflakemelter1172 not true

Well you talking about Andy mcnab

You mean “The one that ran away”

tommy4244 congratulations on your comment

Yes but they aborted on arrival.

Maybe Chris Ryan's section had more balls than the other 2. Who knows.

Watch his body language too. He's a tortured soul. Lying for a living does that to them. Politicians are the same.

I don’t think so. He documented his experience shortly afterwards. Seems to be the same now as was then.

Regardless of what else may or may not have happened, he still walked a lot further than you could.

Fact is Chris Ryan crossed the border. That is just a fact. Tremendous perseverance and fitness

It was depressing tho.

Wrong radio frequency, wrong clothing. Certainly depressing. Agree, an amazing story of survival.

Someone else, a third party, should write a book about their exploits. I vote 'The Men Who Made it Up' as a working title.

@@habichiblah7534 Your brainwatched

@@cheekboy7247 Brainwatched isn't a real word. If you're prone to making things up as you go along, maybe you should join forces with 'Chris and Andy' and write some fairy stories.

By Mcnab or whom?

dangerousdave cox last time I seen Chris he was Shooting Rabbits 🐰.

Impossible. There’s no such person. There’s no such person. Chris Ryan is a character played by the discredited liar Colin Armstrong.

I was under impression the sas succeeded in knocking out a couple sites In that one.

I agree. Not only do they have access the the latest British kit, but they can have anything American, Canadian etc too

Photos of the patrol taken on the ramp of the Chinook that took them into Iraq show them all dressed in modern clothing, not the WW2 pattern Wind-proof smocks that he's talking about there. The problems was that they'd had to abandon their bergens which contained their warm clothing and food, not the age of their kit. Vince’s hypothermia was probably caused by the fact that when they were compromised and had to run for it he was wearing his thermal jacket and trousers and didn’t have time to take them off before they had to exfiltrate. He would have been sweating heavily in a very short time and when they slowed down hours later he would have been dehydrated and drenched with sweat. Theirs would have frozen on his body and rapidly led to to exposure.

@@EvenWaysMusic I believe the only piece of WW2 kit he wore was a M41 German Afrika Korps cap and that was his own personal headware choice.

@@paddy864 Now don't you be bringing sense and experience into the debate ;)

​@@paddy864 True. Armstrong is a pathetic liar.

Yeah, I was gonnta join as a Corporal but then I went to Hogwarths instead!

Colin

@@moderatefkr6666 Yes ! LOL

Why do you believe that silly tale? It never was even close to the truth.

yes it was indeed

That's true. There is a doc about it. Lots of people saying the stories of B20 is BS. There is book I'm yet to read by the Kiwi guy who other members say is the real truth of B20.