@@KDanes this isn't the real world, it's breaking bad. And even if it is the real world, why would Walt risk letting 8 live given how he thinks the cartel operates? Stfu
Youd be pissed to if you didnt want to actually kill him. Now you gotta dispose that shit(a body) and walk with a limp. OH yeah, If you decided to want to let him go and the moment you do he tries to kill you, you wouldnt be pissed either?! Id be like, "I gave you a chance and you try and do that in return?! Id say sorry too that I had to kill him and that you made that poor choice. All you had to do was walk. didnt you say you just want to go home and not say I want to kill you and go home? edit: In short, Im sure youd be pissed and sad too that know you most likely have to kill him... and if your comment was meant to be a joke, its retarded/cringe at best.
Season 1 Walt: I gotta debate the morality of killing this one guy who might murder my family. Season 5 Walt: Okay I need you to kill ten guys in two minutes.
@@swagnswift4281 . follow my way , whenever you watch any series , dont search anything related to it in google or yt . You are gaurenteed to get spoilers then.
This is the scene that made me fall in love with this show’s cinematography and story telling. Just so chilling when he realizes that he had the shard and his attempt to humanize krazy 8 meant nothing.
I'm not sure if it was a single scene that got me hooked, but this is a good early scene. I watched the first 2 episodes back when it first came out on AMC and I remember that right away there was just something unique about this show that had me hooked like no other TV series I'd seen before. I think that's partially because alot of episodes end on a "cliffhanger" so to speak, which leaves you just itching to see what happens next...not to mention the great writing, cinematography and acting. Albuquerque and the desert was a perfect fit for the cinematography of this show.
@@yearginclarke damn i also remember watching it when it came out watching those first two episodes as a kid only to come back to finish the series many years later. It was just amazing
It’s absolutely unthinkable about how Walt has evolved so much throughout the series like no other protagonist. He went From apologizing to a corpse, to shooting someone in mid-sentence.
well being innocent and naive just led to punishment and pain, but being cruel and brutal got him what he wanted. positive and negative reinforcement. the more walt accepted peoples excuses the more he enabled them to abuse him. the guy that helps walt hide has no tolerance for his bs, because he knows giving people any kind of lenience will just lead to them abusing it.
@@AA-bz1pr It is just reasonable, it is what everyone would do: you search for the piece, you think you missed it. It is a detail that makes the story more believable, and that makes you empathise more with him.
@@yoloboy03 This is like, the third or fourth episode, he hasn't destroyed his family yet nor ruined any lives (besides Emilio and Krazy-8). You'd feel bad for him in this scene, even worsening the fact that they talked to each other before this occurred.
I only just realized Walter was crying before he did this. Such a big change between killing a guy who was trying to kill him and then remorselessly calling in hits on multiple people he never met in a few seasons.
Walt apologizing to Crazy-8 after killing him was a nice touch. Drives home how different a person he was at this point than who he'd become down the road.
I mean I'd say it shows how he sorta has an alter ego, he has his must do everything himself and not rely on anyone else and the naive im sorry I didn't want to kill you
When he kills Krazy 8 he feels bad When he Kills those 2 guys he feels shocked When he kills Gus and Hector he feels happy When he kills Mike he feels angry when He kills Jack and his crew he feels nothing But when he kills Lydia he feels satisfied
It was so heartwarming when they put the broken plate back together. Krazy-8 felt so bad that he wanted to surprise Walt by fixing it himself, but Walt found out and it was honestly even better that they did it together.
@@fatiht8863 what if after Walter said "you gonna stick me...?" And mf breaks the lock and somehow escapes? He would've snitched to the DEA too. I know this idea is stupid but yeah.
@@mon2soon582 i mean that's the real path it would follow if he escaped, he snitched to DEA about meth so these two guys also trying to kill him would fall in line, nothing dumb mate
The scene also shows that Walter has always been unusually good at anticipating potential threats. It occurred to him to check the plate pieces when most people wouldn't have considered that. That's how he managed to stay alive for as long as he did. Always staying a step or two ahead of his enemies.
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Actually this is the moment would I say when this series showed me it was different.
I like how the plate breaks into 7 pieces. The eighth piece is actually krazy 8 who also had to break for Walter to break bad, that’s brilliant writing
@@nameynamename3758 The joke went way over your head. The difference in his character. He said sorry followed up with some lame explanation about how he didn't have to shoot him.
Omar Dawson..Pretty clear You have never delved into Crystal...It's important to come-up for air from time to time...JD is not enough for ballance like too much Coke...I know some people... that know some people... :)-
WW's character was carefully cured and calibrated, and capably conveyed, and after considerable contemplation, i can confidently and conclusively claim that he did not and would not kill somebody for giving him attitude. wth are u even talking about? Mike? Salamanca?
This is the first scene where I was like: “Oh, this show is gonna be great” the way Walter keeps apologizing as he’s choking him to death is just so saddening. This is the first of many lines he crosses into becoming a criminal
@@Br3nn0n7 Oh yeah I never noticed that. Makes sense that he's still lamenting over his actions toward Krazy-8, because his murder is really where it all started. Nice catch, mate
He doesn't just became a Criminal, Walt lost his humanity throughout the Series and became a cold blooded Murderer. With the end of Season 3 Walt gave up almost all Morals and Ethics and did absolutely everything for Money, Power and his own Ego.
Not a lot of people know this, but the missing piece actually symbolizes the missing piece of the plate that was intended to stab Walter. The amount of details in this show is amazing.
That’s literally the whole point of him putting the plate back together.. who would watch that and be like damn I wonder where that dagger shaped piece went
The hopeless and primal way Krazy-8 swings the piece of the plate, trying desperately to hit Walt at any cost, is so raw, and surreal. Makes you really believe he's fighting for his life. Even from Season 1 this show was perfect.
This really shows how brilliant Walter really is. While trying to find reasons to not kill this man, he was able to spot a piece of a broken plate missing under distress.
I think part of it was Walt having the sort of mind that needs to follow correct procedure, as best as he understands it. In this case, it was as a self-assigned jailer of sorts. As a logical guy, he understood that everything a prisoner receives must be accounted for when returned, otherwise the prisoner has stashed it for use later.
When you look at the situation realistically there is no way Walt could have let's this guy go without constantly having to watch his back. Walt did what needed to be done.
I love how Walt actually believed that despite everything he’s done to Krazy8 he’d just forget about it because they had a nice conversation. It’s a sort of naivety to him that we don’t see often I think
Well to be fair walters life wasn’t the greatest I mean his wife is the worst his kid is disrespectful to him at times hit brother in law is debatable a jack ass and he had cancer plus he wasn’t friends with Jesse at that point so yeah a talk would’ve took you far
To the audience too, this show was pretty revolutionary at the time and the fact that it still hits so hard all this time later is incredible, the audience was all “sure fine we get a happy ending” but get shown so early that that’s not what’s gonna happen
When he realizes the plate is missing and gets all panicky and says no no no and doesn’t wanna believe that the guy he just had a really nice conversation with most likely is gonna try and kill him if he lets him go. Love when Walt gets emotional because he doesn’t wanna do it but knows he just has to. I loved this scene. It was epic. Greatest show ever imo
Also in an episode in breaking bad they said that Tuco is the replacement for Krazy-8 but when watching BCS you know that he’s 5 lvls above him and not a replacement type at all. I think the producers changed the character a little bit
@@abdulrahmanalenezi6848 they didn't say that exactly, they said that Tuco took over his territory. but it was pretty obvious that tuco was a bigger dealer with more security and more underlings
There’s a little part which shows krazy 8 reaching into his pocket but still i would’ve taken it one of two ways: 1. he was reaching for a weapon such as the plate shard 2. he was tryna scratch his balls But the safer bet would be the latter
Here... sandwich. Are you gonna stick me with that piece of plate? *MURDER* No offense but... I'll make you another sandwich ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-sFVrvRjlXH4.html
No, I don't think Walt became a cold hearted killer in this scene, he didn't want to kill Krazy 8, but he had to. I think it's when he ran over those gang members. And Krazy 8 wasn't trying to help Walt, he was gonna use it to kill Walter and escape. Walter only killed him out of self defense.
They were men Walt had never seen or met. Killing someone is a great deal more morally difficult than having them killed, as in the process of doing so it's all you're thinking about.
@@boogaloobender3462well walt still didn't really hesitate in for example driving over 2 guys and shooting one of them to save jesse's ass and killing the whole gang of uncle jack with a DIY chassis for a machine gun in the finale so the transformation is here still ykno
I watched this the night it first aired and still vividly remember the feeling. I knew it was a really good show already, but the opening where they are cleaning up Emilio as Walt recalls his “What makes a person” conversation with Gretchen, Walt and Krazy 8 talking, the missing plate piece scene and then finally him killing Krazy 8…that’s when I first grasped how great the show could be. It turned from a dark comedy with the dad from Malcolm In The Middle to an amazing, emotional show.
My first reaction when I saw it for the first time was that he would kill him and then find the missing piece under the stairs or something. For me the surprise was not the plate being pieced together showing a missing piece it was when Crazy-8 actually pulled it out to stab Walter. I was like oh he did have it after all.
I love that Walt had a tear run down his cheek when he asks him if he’s going to stab him with the plate. Just adds to the realism. He was both scared and sad. he didn’t want to believe that krazy 8 would do that after bonding with him but now he had no choice and he was sad he had to do it
One of the many things I love about Better Call Saul is that it still haven't ruined this moment. Nothing that Krazy-8 has done on BCS makes you think Walt is a fool for not instantly killing him. Great prequel.
@@EvilSapphireR What I mean it BCS doesn't have him out killing multiple people. Domingo still seems like a person that you'd pause over killing despite the situation. Which means that the reveal that he's hiding a jagged piece of plate to stab Walt would still be as big of a gut-punch as ever.
@@proteg30 The vast majority of the BCS is set before the events in BB chronologically. That makes it a prequel. Not when it was made. Like how the Phantom Menace is a prequel to the original Star Wars trilogy or the Hobbit trilogy is a prequel to the Lord of the Rings trilogy. Even though both those trilogies are kinda horrible in comparison to their source material.
RU-vid commenters on their way to share stories that just so happen to relate to the scene and are very sympathy inducing and garner hundreds of likes (the first ten thousand times were unlikely coincidences but it was around the 5 billionth time i started to get suspicious)
This scene was actually improvised. While on break after shooting the previous scene, Bryan Cranston had decided to do an epic prank, so he pranked Max Arciniega by suffocating him to death. This prank was caught on camera, and the directors just decided to keep it in the final cut.
Strangling and suffocating aren't the same thing. Suffocating involves air not getting into your lungs. It takes about a minute to pass out and about 3 minutes to die. Strangling involves air not getting to your brain and is fatal in about 15 seconds.
"When I first watched this scene I was a stupid kid and thought Walt was freaking out because he realized he accidentally fed the guy part of the plate" -Someone on twitter
This is a great example of good storytelling. The writers could have had shown Krazy 8 secretly pick a piece of plate but instead they had Walt figure it out by puzzling it together. Not only is this more interesting to watch, but it allows the audience to be more engaged with the story. We have to put the pieces together just like Walt. Therefore identifying with him and being more compelled to root for him. Edit: everyone seems to think they’re more astute than they really are I guess. Because no one has really articulated why exactly this scene is so great. This kind of thing may seem obvious but 95% of people who try to write don’t utilize this basic principle when crafting a story, including those ragging on me for this comment. The only reason I know this is because I do script coverage and get hundreds of scripts of people who think they’re good writers but fail to understand what techniques make a story truly engaging. That is all
Yep! You will have a big enough percentage of the audience think along with Walt, "You know, I would check to make sure that every piece is there..." And then two seconds later Walt goes back to the trash can.
It’s a damn shame no one in Walters life understood what this did to him. Walters Naive nature almost got him killed. He was trying to take a half measure, but by one piece of the plate missing he had to go all the way. No more half measures.
What's interesting about this scene is that Walter White wanted to find any reason to let him go. He did not want to kill him. When he aligned the broken pieces, he knew he had to do something that he didn't want to do.
Whats even more interesting was that this scene was improvised and the actor for krazy eight was jealous of the actor for walt and tried to kill him with the plate!
@@twisted_nether373 Okay, what is it with every comment having one of you assholes going "Uhhh yeah captain genius uh huh!!!" in the replies? Jesus, cant even apreciate a show anymore
This has got to be one of the most chilling scenes in BB. You really want to give Crazy-8 the benefit of the doubt and to trust him, and the gut-wrenching realisation that it was all for nothing.
This. Exactly. You want just as bad as Walt does for Krazy 8 to be genuine in his “live and let live” mentality. I still remember 14 years later watching this and being like “…what the fuck is he doing?” and realizing just as Walt correctly puts the plate pieces together
“[...] nobody ever tells you that they’re going to kill you. It doesn’t happen that way. There aren’t any arguments or curses like in the movies. See, your murderers come with smiles. They come as your friends, the people who have cared for you all of your life, and they always seem to come at a time when you’re at your weakest and most in need of their help.” - Henry Hill, Goodfellas.
Never been so freaked out by a character having a realisation while putting together a broken ceramic plate. Man that sent chills down my spine the first time I watched it, I never saw it coming. The shape of the missing piece did it, I think.
That strangulation leading to his windpipe breaking is so realistically and brutally depicted. I don't understand how they got his eyes that bloodshot red and his face purple. The blood getting trapped in his head and the blood vessels bursting in his eyes look so real! I'm definitely not a squeamish person... but this scene was so brutal that I put myself into that situation and realized what an awful death that would be!
When Walt asks, "Are you going to stick me with that piece of broken plate?" That's a subtle nod to the fact that Walter thinks Krazy-8 is going to kill him after he releases him. Brilliant writing!
Not a lot of people talk about it but Krazy-8 was played but such an amazing actor, like honestly even I was starting to believe him. Them talking about family, friends, bonding over sandwiches and beer. Then that slow realization it was all just him pretending, and he would kill Walter without a second thought, it broke my heart man.
Yeah Krazy 8 was an idiot for plotting to kill Walt after he releases him. There was no good reason for it, he's the one who was going to kill Walter in the first place. Walts reaction in the trailer should've proved to him that this a smart guy that shouldn't be fucked with. Had he just been real and co operated with Walt he could've gotten out of there alive and Walt wouldn't have been a bit more desensitized to killing people.
@@banginbadger75 its a TV show it doesn't need to make sense each seen is written with certain intent to send a certain message or evoke a certain response, 90% of breaking bad doesn't make sense from a criminal perspective or even a people perspective people do things that make no fundamental sense a lot is explained away oh they're criminals they're different but it undermines its overall point, a lot of things that seem crazy make fundamental sense when put into perspective and given context. Breaking bad though its more about telling a story and trying to send a message
The scary fact is, even if it were real there's still a good chance he'll still kill Walt. Empathy does not equate connection. You could be both an understanding individual and selfish at the same time. Compartmentalization is a real phenomenon and is typically used in high stress environments.
@@banginbadger75 He might not have, we don't know that for sure. Unknown to Walt, he was a police informant don't forget, so he's probably not a cold blooded murderer however threatening a persona he had. When he took that piece of plate, he was probably expecting to be killed imminently and having a weapon, however crude, may have given him a slightly higher chance of living than without. When he'd got it and then convinced Walt to release him, he firstly may have felt that he couldn't admit to taking the piece without losing Walts trust, and secondly, may well not have trusted Walt to go through with it anyway. It seems perfectly plausible to me that when released he'd have just walked out of the house and contacted the Police and told them about his cousin dying and they'd do the rest. He knew Jesses name and where his lived, and even knew Walter by name too.
i love the symbolism of walt desperately looking for the last piece in the bin, as if he's trying to find some humanity in the business he's just got himself into
@@nikolayswagsky9426 I was replying to a deleted comment Nikolay, I just went ahead and deleted my comment to avoid other people being confused. I was in agreeance with what you were saying man.
In this Scene it was never about puzzling to begin with. By realizing that a piece was missing, the protagonist figured out that it must've been taken by his prisoner in an attemt to harm him once he's free. Very clever writing in my humble opinion.
One of the best scenes ever. I think this was the moment I became 'hooked' on BB. I remember watching this episode and just getting that feeling of watching something truly great. It was abundantly clear the writing was going to be a cut above the rest of TV. This scene set the tone for everything that was to come.
and to get you actually "hooked" to BB, Vince actually installed a hook above your tv behind the wall so it could break out, hook you, and and bring you to the tv so it could actually get you "hooked" to BB. Bravo, Vince. Vince is a genius.
Genuinely wonder how many plates they had to break to get one like this with a perfectly long shard like that. The image it creates when it’s missing from the reassembled plate is so good.
What’s more chilling, is what came after. Jesse goes to the house, it’s cleaned up like nothing happen. Along with the Rv. Top of that, it’s got an eerie song playing with it. Breaking Bad is truly a masterpiece.
@@ericchapman8956 ...Yes Eric...if not a collectable for sure...but not antique... that just reminded me of one of my Fathers sisters...Dad had 4 and my Mother had 11 sisters & brothers...her name was "Elaine"...we used to call her "Aunt Eek"...with endearment...she was actually nice...along with my other 36 aunts & uncles...True
from a safe distance: "Hey Krazy-8, you're gonna have to drop the shard from the plate before I let you go" "Haha okay you figured it out Walter, my bad, i'll drop it" *good ending achieved*
@@ajaysidhu471 character development is when the character grows and evolves within a period of time in the story. Also, his goals and ideals may change as well. A character development could be a positive one or a negative one
14 years later I still vividly remember watcing this scene when it first aired. The absolute best moment of Season 1 and one of the best in the entire show. This was my favorite episode for for years. The talks between Krazy 8 and Walt. You want so bad to believe just like Walt does that Krazy is genuine with what hes saying about forgiving. I'll never forget Walt putting the plate together and then that moment where the single tear rolls down Walts cheek. This was when I realized just how good Bryan was and how amazing the show was going to be. Up until this point and while Cranston may have already shown some of what he can do in the previous two episodes, this episode and this scene was when it stopped being "the guy from Malcolm In The Middle" in a dark comedy about meth. This changed everything.
Thick plates/glass wear will do that. It's only the cheap thin ones that shatter into ten million pieces of dagger sand. It also depends the velocity it's hitting whatever made it shatter.
the thing i love about this show is how effective they are at creating parallels in the plot illustrating his desperation to hold on to his sense of identity .. being a "good person" ...and it slowly fades with every deal and every time he chose to sacrifice another person for the sake of self-preservation. He wanted to find that other piece of the plate so desperately, because he had already made the choice of what he'd do if he didn't.
This is such a good scene. It shows that while Walter didn’t have the guts to kill Domingo, he’s so big brained that he can find ways to play 4D chess with people. Like when he started piecing together the plate I was genuinely shocked at how thorough this dude is and how much he thinks ahead. It really takes Jesses lines talking about: “He’s smarter than you, he’s luckier than you.” Then going on to say how Walt either knows what’s about to happen or comes up with plans n shit. They somehow made a highschool chemistry teacher a legit scary villain while still keeping him goofy and somewhat pathetic
The best part of this show/ what makes walters character so iconic was definitely the fact that he wasnt a career criminal, he was essentially a highly educated, intelligent man thrust into the role of a criminal. And you can see the cunning intelligence in his criminality. Hes not your conventional thug. Raised by the streets, desensitized to violence and wrong doing. Almost everything he does in this show is out of desperation, yet still very well planned out, and quite smart, yet you can tell the character feels bad for the crimes he commits that most other criminals would brag about.
@@KyleGD Exactly. His paranoia, pettiness, and pride all feed into his distrustful/misanthropic nature that allowed him to survive as long as he did. But it's also what got him there in the first place. Leaving Grey Matter, rejecting Elliot and Gretchen's help, ignoring every opportunity to walk away.
I'm not a big TV fan and wasn't sold on watching this series until I got to this part. It totally sealed the deal for me and I was hooked. I thought this was next-level writing.
holy shit i need to rewatch season one, later seasons are amazing don’t get me wrong BB improved every single season but I kind of miss watching walt be a very empathetic and like able guy not a psychotic drug kingpin
This might be his second kill, but this was the first kill he did with his own two hands and a weapon. The first kill he made and planned out and wasn't at gunpoint. Compare these to his kills later on in the series and you get to see just how used he got to killing by even just S3 and S4.
I just started watching Breaking Bad for the first time, and i can say, without a doubt. This scene and the conversation between Walt and Krazy 8 were the two moments i fell in love with the show. I know the path Walt goes down. You can't really live without knowing some spoilers, but the reason i love both scenes so much is because Walt is trying so desperately to find a reason not to kill Krazy 8. Walt tells him about his cancer, a complete stranger, and i was literally at the edge of my seat, and i didn't take my eyes off my tv because i knew Walt would kill him i thought that was the part that was quite predictable but i generally believed they had bonded in some way and Krazy 8 wasn't going to try to kill Walt so when it turns out Krazy 8 was gaining Walt's trust amd he was planning to kill him i was heartbroken. I think it was the right thing for Walt to kill him, and i feel like you could say it was self-defense, but Walt didn't see it that way he didn’t want to kill Krazy 8 and as his dying Walt was whispering "im sorry im sorry" because Walt at this point was still a very good man and I love that. Damn It i have tears in my eyes.
Regardless of Krazy 8's intent when he picked up the shard, he almost certainly would have lived if when Walter asked about it, he dropped it and said "Sorry man, I picked it up for protection in case you attack me. Please let me go, here you can have it."
Yeah, it was a good scene but he really could've just threatened to stop feeding the dude until he gave him the shank. Also could've drugged the sandwich he was making then shipped the dude off to mexico while unconscious... If he's worried about retaliation he should've just let the dude know he spent 100,000 dollars to hire hitmen that would seek revenge if he tries to retaliate or even just tattles on him. A rat like that wouldn't risk his life on a personal vendetta, don't remember how rich walt was at this point but that dude doesn't either.
@@DrakeOola I mean it's possible. I don't think Krazy 8 would believe that kinda threat from a man like Walt though. Walt couldn't make himself kill Krazy 8 so it's unlikely he has the experience and contacts to hire a hitman for 100k.
@@DrakeOola Walt was too naive and inexperienced at this point to do any of that. It's exactly why Krazy 8 played him, he saw right through the naivety of Walt.
I always liked this particular scene, because back then he looked for reasons not to kill someone, he was still human and to a part caring. Later on he became colder and killing wasnt really an issue
Yeah because locking someone by their neck to a pole in a basement where they poop in a bucket and are completely dependent on you, so you can avoid killing them, is totally treating someone humanely and not putting your feelings above their life.
@@JohnDoe-xm1ir Haha that lil detail has been "left out" because it doesn't exist. Kill him first? He was locked up first, because Walt found out he's a snitch.
It’s crazy that Walt went from crying bc he had to kill a man in self defense to then murdering a man for hurting his feelings and then bragging about killing his first victim
I love the moment Walt finds there is a piece missing. 8 had convinced him to abandon this life of crime and just the moment he was ready he realised his ticket out was nothing but a UNO card
I never realized this before, but right as walt is about to strangle Krazy-8, a tear drips down walters face. Everything he had done for the past few days was for nothing, and he knew it right then and there.
The guy was a rat informant. No honor. VERY few ppl who live that lifestyle could be trusted in that scenario. Forgive and forget ? After being gassed and held hostage for a couple of days...by a noob teacher trying to break bad ? Not likely.
