@@daviddillemuth7268 With you on that, I drive in a very relaxed manner and never had a perfect shift with the negative reinforcement master, cause there's always some reason you have to stop quick / accelerate fast at some point, lol. They're obviously watching and rating our driving with it though, whether its on for us or not.
I got an email saying I have “platinum status for a week” to try it. I went on last night and first order was $6.75 for 5.5 miles (WTH). I accepted it hoping to get a bundle order which I did. A platinum order $10 to go an extra 4.4 miles. But I had to travel a total of 10+miles from the restaurant. Even if you combine the orders it’s 16.75 for a little over 10 miles. Still not great. How can they call that a platinum order?!?! I delivered, ended my dash and went to Spark. Made $85 in about 2.5 hours. Going to stick with that for now!
That seems to be the standard right now. No matter how much I earn per delivery, at the end of the day, the algorithm calculates within about a $12-$15/hour earning for each Dasher. The algorithm seems to be programmed to make sure we only receive so much pay, which ever way they have to enforce it (lowering base pay if it is a high tip, offering extremely low pay on long distances, or by not sending dashes). Their system is rigged and they operate on the very thin lines of the boundaries set by the law... That is, until they are forced to adhere to the law, and not barely, if at all, conforming to it.
Since they only count active time, it looks better when drivers stay logged on to make the same pay as a year ago in fewer hours. It's all a choice of words. Show the real available time drivers sit around waiting for valid orders then the stats will look different
@@YourDriverMike here it is : 2-7 an hour NY after gas and forced hourly now where they cheat the hour by ONLY during accepted offer, we donate the rest of our time , they beat the hourly wage instantly and shoved it up our tailpipes !
Big time. These guys are great manipulators of appearances and have a huge love of self, big ego... Ick. This kind of business model may be good for them, for now, but that garbage does not last. Being a thief never ends well- NEVER. Thieves get caught and thieves are punished.
I’m ok with shop and deliver, but please, please, stop with the cosmetics already. I’m fine with 60 pound bags of chicken feed from Tractor Supply. But what the *^#* is a blend sponge???
That's why I go straight to the associates, both times they're like "yep!" and walk away to get it. Smaller stores but thousands of tiny, different slightly different products
I feel like I'm making more money on Dasher Rewards, barely. The dollars:mile is solid but per hour is $17-$19 on all recent shifts sometimes even lower around $11-$13 if I get bad luck. Keep in mind some of those shifts were awful days/times (i.e. Monday at 11AM or something). I have more testing to do on EBT now that I know it doesn't give shop & deliver. Then after Platinum to compare back to general cherry picking. Overall still not great pay compared to 2019-2020 but we're in a different time
@@michaellewellyn9080 2-7 an hour NY after gas and forced hourly now where they cheat the hour by ONLY during accepted offer, we donate the rest of our time , they beat the hourly wage instantly and shoved it up our tailpipes !
San Diego market is over saturated with dashers which is making offers at sub par levels with MORE idle time during shifts. My active time is way down from six months ago. I keep denying 2 and 4 dollar orders which is tanking my AR.
Thank you Mike! Between you and Pedro I wouldn’t know much about these side gigs :) I’ve been doing this for over a year and on top of my manager position. It’s nice to get the deets! I’m in PA too
I like how customers want quicker faster delivery but they don't want to pay for it I don't think so I like how these companies want faster service but don't want to pay the dashers more they want to steal from the dashers I don't think so
Do you do the 20 items and above shops, and if so, how long does it take to do those shops? Dollar general, Aldi, are small but can take a while finding uncommon things. And HEB and Kroger and target takes 1:30 just to walk on the other side of the store.
@@carlosgarces8980 I usually only do Meijer. I know where everything is. DG I do if the price is right. Meijer I did a 55 item the other day. The pay was 47 dollars. Had it down in about 75 minutes. The delivery Wasn't too far from the store. I get a lot of 15-20 dollar orders for 5-15 items. But I decide what order I take from the route I have to go. I'll do 7 dollar orders from restaurants for 5-6 miles if it's freeway miles. Beldon village is right next to interstate 77. I won't accept 15 Dollar orders for 9-10 Miles if I have to drive through the city with lights and traffic. I'd rather do the 8-10 dollar order down the highway. IMO. the route you have to go is the best way to make money. Because if you're sitting at lights with traffic it takes too long. I know the routes just by glancing at the offer. Between DD and Uber eats I have around 14000 deliveries. If I get a Meijer for say 35 items for 25 dollars but it's 13 Miles away I'll most likely decline it. Because usually another one pops up for 5 -10 items for 10-15 dollars for 4 miles.
I dash in SF, CA. Even with prop 22, I only make around $25-26/hour while running both UE/DD (I UE/DD as my main job, but I have a W2 that I work part time, and a seasonal job as well). Prop 22 supplements approximates to expenses consistently, so there's not much need to calculate before/after expenses. Deacceleration of orders is a real thing, but the real problem is the market saturation and multiaccounters. Every block on a hotspot, there's already 5 dashers with LIKELY more than one account or phone taking up a parking space. I've literally seen some guy with 7 phones at a local restaurant. Shop and pays are good here in California, just because we're all on permanent earn by time, but I feel like I've lost out on money because I'll see all these dashers who didn't opt into shop and pay get these big bags of restaurant orders, while I actually have to walk around finding items to get the same amount of money.
I would really like alcohol to be a preference option. The orders are typically pretty decent but the best part is there's literally almost zero wait time for the pickup. 99% of the time you're in and out in under a minute. Shop and pay alcohol is no different than a regular shop and pay, so those are hit or miss. I would love to just do nothing but alcohol pickup orders, cause believe me, alcoholics are consistent and reliable customers 😜
Thank you for all your work. Have been dashing part-time for a while in Scottsdale, AZ. Over 6200 deliveries. My income has declined quite a bit over the past year, especially the last 3 months. Was averaging ~$33/hr before, now it's closer to $20/hr. Usually I'm around 60% acceptance, but when it gets close to 50%, terrible orders start getting offered, en masse. Seems like DD is attempting to force us to take these to avoid losing Silver status. Dashing for me, at least, is making less and less sense.
I kind of just started DD as a side hustle. Yesterday I did my second shop and pay. It was for two batteries at CVS. The first one was for three items at CVS but I only found two. Luckily the woman was a good sport and she was okay with me not finding one of the items. An older woman who I’m doing grocery shopping 🛒 for might not be okay with me not finding stuff. It’s going to affect my customer ratings.
I'm seeing consistently less pay while continuing to rain in 5* reviews & above beyond rankings. I've been Platinum for over 2 months in Arkansas. I only dash during peak times (lunch & dinner) and there are rarely promo pays here. It seems on "decent/average" order days DoorDash keeps me between $12-$15 per hour. The other trend is for Friday night & Saturday night it's $20/hr (all before expenses). This earning call sounds like a numbers game to present the best view for investors while masking the reality on the street.
I receive almost 100% restaurant orders. Occasionally an alcohol order will pop up and I will receive shop and deliver orders very rarely. I have delivered auto parts and tools from Lowe's.
I'm only turning on shop and deliver if im really slow and not getting any resturant orders. maybe in the middle of summer, it could come in handy. But if there are enough resturant orders to keep me going, I'm keeping that shop and deliver turned off.
Im based in Queens, NYC and I’m NOT allowed to dash within NYC during peak time unless I schedule ahead of time. Has anyone else have this issue? My AR Is at 45% because I refuse to do $3 orders for 6 miles. Lmk and thanks for the vid Mike!
.. I never see grocery orders come in .. red cards can't activate .. all nonsense .. 2 years now , never saw grocery orders .. does it depend how large the car is ? 🤔 South FL.
got a catering order on UE this morning($48). drive across town. canceled by Cracker Barrel. turned it off. went out tonight for a snack tonight, turned it on for 30 minutes made a delivery from Taco Hell for $12. it was a big day!!! 12 bucks😂
I was in a restaurant eating lunch with others and I noticed almost every doordash person who came in ( over 6) could not speak English and it was causing so many issues. So having more dashers but not quality dashers who can perform the job well.
Question in my market in erie pa. My AR is 62. Is there a reason why i cant schedule. Zones 20 miles away and farther i can. My market is bigger and more food places. I have to wait tell it goes red. Is there to many people in my zone.
Dasher Rewards are coming to my market next week. Yah! However, DD has given me so many garbage orders this week that my AR went from 40 percent to now at 18 percent. This is the first week that Uber Eats is making me more money than DD.
Itz hard here in Grand Prairie Alberta the tips suck bad and the distance to pick up and deliver or long up to 10 to 15 minutes for pickup the longest I've had to deliver is a half an hour if that's a waste of my time I'm going back to BC where I was a top Dasher and hopefully I can get back to that and make my four grand in 3 weeks I cannot live on what I'm making here I have to go on welfare and that is b*******
It’s gimmick to force you to get your acceptance rate up so can qualify for dash now, and then they send you absolute trash offers which destroy acceptance rating quick as you couldn’t believe, then force you to take the same trash offers to build your AR all over again in a vicious cycle.
I am currently a dasher and I wanted to know if you have done catering orders if so did you get enough money or was it the same as picking up from a regular order.
They wan't to work on dasher costs yet they also supported a $2 base, there's something illogical about that. They are telling you guys exactly what you want to hear, without actually following through with it. It all wreaks of politics.
Havent been able to dash since they updated the app, my area is either gone, or when it does show up to let me drive, theyre 30-45 min shifts every now and then, which makes it impossible to even get 100 deliveries.
2022 I was averaging $1200 a week. Last year it was $1400 a week. This year it's more like $1100 a week but that mainly because my car's been in the shop since Nov, waiting on a part from Honda, I get my car back in July. Currently our backup vehicle, a 20 year old minivan is dying. Can't go past 2nd gear, so have to avoid hills and hwys entirely & lights quit working so have to get home before sundown. Dasher rewards hit our market a few days ago. It sucks. I made it up to Silver after two days of taking lots of crap. Determined to get that up to platinum by this weekend. Rolling 30 day total stays around 500 deliveries so that's not an issue. I prefer the shop and deliver actually. Much more money. I'll shop for 30 items for 20 bucks or 20 items for 15 bucks all day long. That's like 30 dollars an hour. I'm doing Hy-Vee shop orders at least 10 times a day. By far where most of my money comes from .
Bruh lmao. Im a mechanic who does doordash part time. I gotta tell you. Theres no such thing as a car being in a shop for months, not even a car as common as a honda, where parts availability is very readily available. Not even the italian cars like alfa romeo have months waiting list. Its a couple weeks at most. Goodluck my guy.
@@whatanamazingusername7962 been waiting on a front left steering knuckle for a 2015 Honda Civic EX-L Sedan since Nov 15th. It's just been sitting at Honda waiting for Honda to make the part. Searched everywhere for the replacement part , did find one in a junkyard in Ohio but they refused to ship. Not available anywhere online. Finally heard back from Honda recently that the ETA for the part is July 4th.
What city is $1,100 a week? How many hours for that pay (like the hours on from starting leaving your home/apt to returning back to home/apt? What is your AR, customer rating, etc.?
I think dasher pay being more efficent is refering to now when you get multiple orders stacked togther, you only get 2$ base pay total, NOT 2$ base pay for each order. they changed the language to say offer, not order to get away with it. So you could be literally taking and dropping off a order for 0$ base pay and 0$ tip. since they dont tell you what each order pays you can't know which one is a non paying order. IT IS WILD TO THINK ABOUT
Have not accepted a shopping offer in quite a while now (the $ per time is often only marginal or kinda good if they were straight deliveries, but if there's missing item your cooked). Customers don't know to tip for the shopping time and DD is obviously not guiding them to do so. EBT only seems to get pickup and deliver orders from non restaurants (few tips of course). Not often talked about, Tonybro is one of the highest paid CEO's in the tech industry (believe it's ~$400 million a year), just insane...still the same guy with the judgement (a few years back) that thought skimming drivers tips was a good thing and tried to argue that publicly with the customer base till it blew up in his face.
