Breaking Down “Leaving Neverland” 

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Hannah what would he of said? I didn’t do it. Cool, you got his opinion. His estate speaks for him. The world says it not ok to sleep in a bed with kids and have kids on your lap. The stans need to practice what they preach and give their young relatives to strange men for 30 days. Sign a contract relinquishing your kids to a billionaire. The shit is not normal. It’s not normal for a lower class man, it’s not normal for a high class billionaire. The difference is the lights and the lavish lifestyle is a far more powerful groomer than your average joe and his van and candy. Dude would drop million dollar gifts on his alleged victims and their family’s. Someone gives you a mill, you’re not gunna say no, you’re not gunna snitch, you’ll lie when you’re told and hold secrets as long as the cash flows. Same goes for the millions of fans, pre groomed not to see the things he does as red flags. Oh he never had a childhood, does that excuse it, like really think about it. Does him not having a childhood excuse him from societal norms? Lots of people on this planet didn’t have a childhood, but I don’t see them with lil model boys on their lap or sleeping in bed with them for 30 days. Anyway, the MJ fans who say the Justice System is 100% perfect and always gets the bad guys and never locks up the good guys, they know that shit isn’t true. You know that Jury saw a Pop Icon on that stand and a fair trial went out the window. Any normal Jury, someone knows the person on that stand, they’re out of the court. So tell me how that court doesn’t victimise those boys when that happens? They see what they think is a God and some kids trying to say that’s the Devil, who do you think the Jury will side with? I mean the hidden rooms, the tripwires, the cameras, the erotica, the sleeping arrangements, the fake marriages. Show me another person doing that stuff and I’ll show you someone who deserves to have their life investigated and turned upside down

@@zippyzoo9811 your assuming things. Be smart and learn to love your fellow human beings. Michael was better human being then the both of us. You or your opinion is not gonna change that.

Zippy Zoo First thing I suggest for you is to dig and find the actual truth and validity behind the things that you’re stating “happened”. For example.. Michael never bought the Safechucks a home as a “gift”. The documents regarding that particular situation, are out there and it was never a “gift”. It was a loan and the only reason that the Safechuck’s didn’t need to pay it all back is because they were already behind and struggling with abiding by the requirements of the loan and Michael eventually said fuck it because he realized that he most likely was never going to get that money back and did not want to deal with it. Pretty much everything in that emotionally lubricated, statement piece that they claim to be a “documentary”, is completely fabricated and made up and has video clips that are so chopped down into tiny snippets of the original video’s content in order to erase any evidence other than the narrative they are setting themselves. Just like the loan documents, the original video’s are out there, as well. This crap got debunked and discredited so quickly that the disgraceful excuse of a “director had to hurry and erase at least 45 minutes of what was shown initially, because his “evidence” and his “facts” were and still are the furthest thing from evidence or facts. As far as “grooming” goes and this whole mindset that, an individual who has a stronger connection with their inner child as result of how things were when they were young, having friendships with not just children but the families as a whole, as well as that individual having a strong sense of empathy, compassion, generosity and selflessness for families who are less fortunate and struggling to get by, or children around the world suffering from diseases or dying from cancer and was put in the Guinness Book of World Records for being the artist/celebrity that’s donated the largest amount as a whole to a plethora of different charities, schools, hospitals... is someone with the characteristics of a groomer or that these things inherently make them “wrong” or “abnormal”, is a crock of shit, I’m sorry. None of these families or children went to stay the night at Neverland upon first meeting Michael ffs lol and this whole sentiment that only young boys stayed there and only young boys received gifts from Michael is incredibly obtuse seeing as it takes a few minutes of research to see that it’s blatantly not true at all. I mean, the man showered ALL of the children at the hospitals that he visited, with gifts. Now, as for children sitting on the laps of adults or sleeping in the same room.. the fact that the immediate thought amongst many individuals, is that it’s “not normal” or “sexual” in some way is absurd. Guess what.. someone’s family member who they assume that they know well, can turn out to be a pedo/child abuser but you mean to tell me that when I was a kid, all the times I and most kids who sat on our uncles laps, was inappropriate and not normal? Smh 🤦🏼‍♀️ I don’t know if people like yourself are just unaware of the fact that we as humans can have, not only the capability of gaging a situation correctly by applying their parental intuition, as well as use discernment and practicality.. but they can also keep from feeding the younger generations minds with this idea that you shouldn’t trust a single soul throughout your whole life because they could be a horrible person and the gentleman that we’ve known for month’s on end, who plays water balloon fights with everyone and is incredibly child like, is a pedophile who wants to harm you because “he had you sit on his lap.” Obviously this is a rather extreme way of putting it but I don’t know how else to make it stick that many individuals in society are taking situations and stories of sexual abuse, abuse in all forms and the trauma that usually comes from it, that people like MYSELF have personally dealt with and dealt with many times in their life and going about educating other’s in a very unhealthy and extreme manner. Let me tell you something.. I believe that Michael, without a shadow of a doubt was and still is an incredible soul and I would consider myself a fan, yes. If you think for one second that, that means that I lack cognitive analysis skills or cognitive and critical thinking skills to separate any artist from their work or what I personally feel about their work or themselves, then you’re sadly mistaken my friend. Take it from someone who, like I mentioned, was sexually abused at a younger age, experienced abused in all forms throughout my life, has shared my testimony with hundreds of abuse survivors and have head hundreds of their testimonies. I’ve worked on a personal with many of these individuals on both mine and their healing process and I have a rather profound and extensive knowledge and education on the subjects of abuse and trauma, as well as, the characteristics that linked in different ways... not only that, due to a traumatized self and not knowing how to deal with the suppressed and unsuppressed memories, I developed very damaging coping skills and let’s just say, that I know first-have and after several personal cases within the judicial system and have sat in court watching, again, hundreds of other individuals cases. So, unlike your broad assumption that all Michael’s fans that say he is innocent and even, more so the victim in these cases, than any of those who have made claims...that these fans are all under the impression that the judicial system is “perfect”, well... again, I fall into that category and I can almost guarantee that I know how they are in reality, more so than you do. Just to add a cherry on top of all of this... remember those damaging and unhealthy coping skills I once had? Mastering manipulation and deceit, came hand in hand and despite everything... I didn’t even have to watch more than a few minutes to see that those two dimwits, along with the ways the director set the shots and filmed them and simply, how the two were going about “telling their story” in the way they did, their physical reactions while telling their story, the overly detailed descriptions of the “encounters” the openness they have to discussing it with practically the entire world when you go live television and such while, keeping in mind this is not just one heterosexual make claiming someone of the same sex “abused them” but TWO heterosexual males claiming someone of the same sex “abused them” and this is their interpretation of the most realistic way that, that would go down? Their lying.... all of them have always lied in the end and it’s easy to find and at times will even spell it out for ya lol

@@katek.4692 I'm not reading that whole wall of text you wrote, but it's never been debunked. You fans just want to believe that's true. Channel 4, who first commissioned it to Dan Reed never planned on it being 4 hours long. So no editing down for any reason other than to accommodate commercials when Channel 4 first aired it. All four hours were made available a week or so later on Channel 4, and it's always aired in its entirely everywhere else. Believe what you want, but don't spread lies.

minasz Gee, I hope you don't sit on a jury trial: eye witness testimony is not only evidence, it's amongst the strongest evidence you can get.

Must watch "Razorfist" Neverland debunked ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zYx0vLfpRYY.html Square One 1993/2005/Wade ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZxNDb2PVcoM.html Charles Thomson defending the law ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LHvmi_Cr8QY.html Weinstein/Oprah connections ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Ht2pcr3gjk.html

@@mcmanpa I hope YOU don't sit on a jury trial: eye witness testimony is a strong evidence ONLY if it comes from a third party, not if it comes from the accuser. In this documentary, the only "witnesses" are the accusers themselves, who bring up no evidence at all save for their own words. Any judge would reject the case: as a matter of fact, Robson & Safechuck's attempt at suing the Jackson's estate for BILLIONS of dollars in 2012 was thrown out of court for lack of evidence.

thermonuclear collider Yes, I have sat as a jury member on a trial.

@@mcmanpa and yet you make such stupid comments? Either you never did or you didn't learn anything.

I mean OJ got off too..

Dry Tavern OJ got off because of the tainted evidence and poor procedures taken during the crime and i mean that isn’t necessarily the same case as Michael is it

Must watch "Razorfist" Neverland debunked ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-zYx0vLfpRYY.html Square One 1993/2005/Wade ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-ZxNDb2PVcoM.html Charles Thomson defending the law ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-LHvmi_Cr8QY.html Weinstein/Oprah connections ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1Ht2pcr3gjk.html

@@Smokeburial He's in jail.

I believe these guys

It's ALL PROPAGANDA. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

Moron - he didn't compare -

@@mjmedia09returns maybe you need to return your blind faith in a human like this Whom settled in Court w the chn who described his appendage If you bothered to watch, Wade stated several times that mj had fallen out w him Hope you never have to experience this type of horror, cause w your head in the sand as demonstrated, it won't be 2 hard 🕸️🕷️ GOOD F****** LUCK, you'll need it

@@coldchills1091 I know you don't realize this but THE 1993 case that MJ settled a VERY PUBLIC CIVIL LAWSUIT, ALLOWED all participants to TESTIFY IN THE CRIMINAL TRIAL. In fact, I have VIDEO of their attorney ADMITTING THEY HAD SIGNED NOTHING TO PREVEN THEM from appearing in a criminal trial. IN fact, June Chandler appeared in court in the 2005 Criminal Trial. But I know WHY Evan Chandler DID NOT APPEAR. Because he would have to explain DRUGGING Jordy to make the accusations in the first place. Was that in Dan Reed documentary??

@@coldchills1091 I know a lot of you are self absorbed in this NAMBLA (North American Man Boy Love Association) documentary that Wade and Jimmy have had INVESTORS spend money to make but if you all get time, please explain why Jordy Chandler is BLACK. Okay. I have an idea why but I want your take. lmao encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcT_NNA2gdFGn2IamwtqeR22pa8tsrafD570ERhj6rjJTVIKnU1a

Exactly. I would argue that during the 1980s, MJ was globally just as recognizable as Jesus Christ.

Yeah that type of fandemonium doesn't even exist anymore.

MJ was insanely famous

Comparing MJ with JayZ is a joke. An absolute joke. xD

T London mj is the most famous person on earth still today and was huge in the 80s

Yes

Yes, true! Innocent until proven guilty!

I think he’s guilty

@@torstenheling3830 Good luck proving that 😂😂

@@Giannis-zm5no I don’t have to prove anything. I’m just saying I find the statements made by Robson and Safechuck made in the film very convincing, like millions of other people. That’s it.

Why is everybody blaming the parents, while MJ did all that stuff. The parents were groomed as well. What a load of crap.

@@LaciousC As a parent if you let any man or grown woman sleep with your younger children your a fucking idiot. That's the thought process.

that exactly what his defenders are doing now-i don`t want to believe-so,better keep silence about molestation!

LaciousC What kind of a parent let’s a grown ass man that you barely know, sleep with their young son?? That’s why it’s the parents fault. I’m not excusing Micheal’s behavior, if he actually did it, but that’s completely on the parents for allowing that to happen.

Weird feeling Safechucks mum knew something going on

@@fizzlerfreeborn5020 really? The guy who is responsible for MJ death was sued for a dollar.

Are you serious? If someone you love got raped by the cops, could I demand that you only sue the cops for $1 or else you are only in it for the money?

Then don't say it's not about money. Coming out when you need money and the person is dead 10years already. By all means go seek therapy. Not publicity and get paid for interviews. MJ not even here to defend. They are liars and they making it difficult for real victims to come out. The stories keep on changing. That is my problem. This is a money making effort.

@@portaadonai yes I am serious, it's about being believed not cashing out.

@@portaadonai I would sue the hell out of him but I would make sure he is alive if I do it. Otherwise what's the point. My goal would be to punish him so that he doesn't do it to someone else. That is normally why victims come out. This what's happening here is on another level. Do your research. Please I erge you. This is meant for @evangelos evangelou

they're not even good actors. you could tell immediately they were lying.

@@maaczka the mothers especially. I mean I couldn’t help but laugh at their stage mother dramatic overacting.

@@ChokeslamToHell, yeah, me too.

@@maaczka Esp since she claimed she jumped for joy in 2009 when James Safechuck says he didn’t tell anyone about the alleged abuse until 2013…Conveniently, that time in 2013 happened to be six days after he and his family business got sued for 850k. Bull.

The court didn't decide on the truthfulness of their allegations. They simply decided Jackson's estate weren't responsible for looking after the kids and protecting them.

Evangelos Evangelou they don’t, at least wade I know for sure is wealthy already. I want to see proof that they are interested in his estate. Because that’s false.

You don't know what you're talking about. Wade Robson is in financial difficulty. He tried to sue Michael's Estate several times, they were thrown out and the judge called him a liar. He wrote a book, kept it secret, tried to get it published, nobody was interested. Tried to get a payment from the Estate under seal, they told him to get lost. Later sued for $1.5 billion. He's changed his story so many times. mjjjusticeproject.wordpress.com/2019/02/09/michael-jackson-estate-letter-of-facts-debunking-leaving-neverland/ He owes the Estate $70,000 in legal costs. Educate yourself, instead of believing the trashy media. m.ru-vid.com/group/PLmirOw7JCi826i_J_xsWhtY7jh2sqIlpX

@@link2metroid Exactly!

@@link2metroid Wrong! Wade tried to sue MJ once and the reason the judge wouldn't hear it is because the statute of limitations ran out, he took to long to sue, he certainly can't now. James never tried to sue nor is he doing so now. Seriously, get your facts straight and stop spreading bullshit.

Gr4h1m no he isn’t! You haven’t looked at the other side. Your an idiot. He didn’t do this. To much information that makes them lairs. Why don’t you believe that? Or are you part of this new world where you don’t want to stick up for someone that has bad allegations against them. Your a joke mate and your wrong with that statement. Do your research before you become a follower

Sarndra Smith I wish more people would see Michael groomed the entire world w

Sickening, the graphic description and specially the fact that they were "in love", but the parents, WTF? You teach your children to not allow to be touched by adults, I'm 52 and my mom had that piece of advise when I was a kid, the parents were as responsible as Wacko Jacko

Watch my video EXPOSE the Leaving Neverland HOAX. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-g9cJzOplwN8.html

@@mjmedia09returns made by child molester fans no doubt.

@@mig6pie I can't believe how stupid his fans are.He slept with little boys. He paid victims off. Before the documentary was aired.

Justin Jay why crazy? Don’t you think victims have a right to air their allegations?

@@jennifermorris833 Yes they do. But a man is innocent until proven guilty. These are allegations. It is a slippery slope when a person is condemned in the court of public opinion. This how "witches" got burned to the stake in the olden days in a public frenzy.

mj always forever

If he did what he did he's forever in hell.

ppl are totally blind to the truth.

It's you who don't know body language. He slightly smiled out of embarrassment for feeling he was so stupid when he was a child because he'd believed that whole marriage snowjob MJ did on him. If you can't tell the difference between someone about to burst into laughter and an embarrassed "What an idiot I must have been" slight smile, you've got a hell of a lot to learn about even the basics of body language.

Edgelord

half of sony catalogue.

Why was it that Michael Jackson pretended he didn't know Jordie Chandler in the 1996 interrogation when literally everybody saw Jordie bouncing on his lap at the World Music Awards in 1993?

@@ManubibiWalsh Jordie confessed it all that his daddy told him to lie against Michael and for your information Chandler committed suicide after micheal was proven not guilty. Hello look for the facts not not a small piece of Information the media brings up and you just believe it all

@@claudialinda4328 None of that is true. Like, none of that actually ever happened. Jordie actually talked to the FBI when the Gavin Arvizo case was opened and maintainted that Michael abused him.

Max & Sujy React but he is dead what is the point for dragging all this, he won the case bfr....

@@marypope797 Being dead doesn't matter, if the victim was dead that would be different in practice, but here the victims are the one suffering. Anyone with $ can win cases like that, O.J Simpson and R. Kelly did.

Sleeping in the same bed is not a CRIME, MICHAEL'S ROOM WAS NOT you one little bed the room was the size of a house. Go and read before you show your ignorance.

That's the problem with this society. Too many people celebrity worship and put these people up on a pedistals and treat them like God's. Like they can do no wrong. The evidence against him and the amount of red flags is monumental. It's fascinating to me how people can still be in denial.

There are numerous videos on Yt debunking the allegations . He was innocent

I don't be live you can separate the art from the artist, especially when it come to michael. He dedicated his life to art and helping others and was art himself.

Eileen Pizarro it’s unbelievable people can’t seperate art from action

He gave millions of dollars to charities, visited hospitals, brought terminally ill children to his ranch for a day so they could have fun a last time... found a liver for a 10 yo kid who was about to die and who now has kids himself... I believe he was a good person. But it’s too easy to judge someone based off of 2 dudes making $100 million documentary and who btw happen to be in debt

Lea Makayla he did a lot of amazing stuff ... he also did a lot of terrible stuff. You don’t get to pay off peadophelia with charity work - might’ve worked for the priests for years but it’s 2019 now that ship has sunk. We will never really understand the financial side of Wade and James but as far as I’m concerned if they are survivors which I truly believe they are, then lord Jesus cut them a big fat cheque they need a holiday after all of the hate they’ve had thrown at them since this aired.

Lea Makayla im grieving the loss of an icon - but choosing to use that energy to focus on these poor child sexual abuse victims instead of pushing myself into a state of frenzied denial

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

Fleurs Sv i agree, as another survivor it's frustrating when people who have no idea what they are talking about saying it doesn't look true. The psychiatrist knows what he's talking about.

@@mjmedia09returns GET A LIFE T. R. O. L. L. 👁️🏃‍♂️🧟‍♂️☠️🕸️🕷️

@@trudi211 Back in 2004 they used a "psychiatrist" to dignify the LIES told by the Arvizo's. IT MEANS NOTHING even you don't in the details of THEIR STORY. I CAN PROVE IT WAS LIES.

As a survivor? Compared to what? 3.2 million other people?....

annabelnicholls I'd love to see these two go on the Steve Wilco show and take a lie detector test...I bet they wouldn't show up

annabelnicholls ....just give them a lie detection test...case solved

@@13lochie I actually don't disagree with you. It is incredibly hard to work out over time. I just feel this could have been more evenly based. Anyway, there it is :-)

Can't believe these educated bunch are so stupid. Lol. They love hearing their own voices.

@@13lochie i can understand that evidence is hard to come by on a crime that happened 30 yrs ago but the least they could do is keep their stories straight. Their stories have holes larger than the ones in ozone layer, imagine if mj was alive and this case was taken to court,the defense would have a field day with these guys

Kenneth Bernard I understand you. Neither would my mom unless it was someone she knew extremely well. Here we are though talking about Michael Jackson, a man who did not have a normal childhood a man who worked since he was 5 years old performing. A man who was kind and very generous, a man who only wanted to heal the world. Michael would slit his wrist before he ever hurt a child. He never did these things these two liars say in the documentary . He was proven innocent in 2005 trial and vindicated. He always was innocent. The media is running with these liars stories because the media has always very sadly disrespected Michael countless times during his life. During the trial the media painted him guilty before he even had his day in court. Michael was an innocent man always was.

@@candyphillips8000were you in the rooms with these boys?

genetenz were you?

Except if it was MJ. I would have run away just to hang with him 🤣🤣🤣 and you'd be safer with him than any of these twats

@@genetenz all evidence points to extortion with no proof of abusing families actually caring about protecting children.

I encountered Michael in what the doctors called a "Near death experience." in 2011. I would call it more like I died and left my body but doctors don't listen to these things.

Wha???

Chris Diaz I was beaten in an orphanage at age 3, yes I remember it well. Being traumatized and you remember. Don’t ask me my life at five-no trauma then.

@@marylloydzuk Its evolutionary advantageous to store memories that may save your life in the future. When people store the trauma, and then it is never necessary for a future defense, it must be released in some other way. This is why we share so much with our spouses, and why many people need therapy.

Wade has CHANGE from "repressed memory" to KNEW ALL ALONG. And you know why he changed? Because he giving statement in a CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION when he claims his memory was suppressed. So he changed it to KNEW ALONG. But here's PROOF he's lying bru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

Samantha Segarra they said they realized they were abused after his death like 2013, when they were already in their 30s/40s, that’s bullshit if they were really abused they’d have known long before that.

idk, human psichology is just soooo complex. Some people might forget, try to explain what happened, ignore it, blame themselves, suppress it. They say they realised what happened after they got their own children, and tthe kids started approaching the age when they were abused. So they started having images of their kids being abused, and that made it harder. They started having mental breakdowns too, and I think they had a conversation with themselves, and actually realised what happened. That's also very common in other abuse victims.

And rape victims don’t finally admit it when they have a financial crisis and sue for a billion dollars

After Monday and Tuesday even the calendar says WTF...

Rape is not easy to talk about. It's very tough to process. It hurts, especially if it happened at the hands of someone you loved and trusted.

Eric Lord Amen

Good point

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Robson and Chucks are bad actors. Very easy to read their faces. Even Wades wife was caught lying. One day she was abused next day she wasnt. Now they want 1 billion dollars??? Everything is very obvious. And this psychologist has answers to all questions. Not credible at all. I feel sorry for real victims of abuse because Robson and Chucks are diminishing real victims credibility

@@chuukwu I think you should save your concern for the "real victims", when you add to the cultural conversation that calls victims who come forward liars. Young victims of sexual abuse are listening in, and what they may very well be learning is that if they come forward they will not be believed and their motives will be questioned. I know I would be scared if I was a victim of sexual abuse, and I saw the public so defensive of a man who has had multiple accusations against him, and had a habit of sleeping in the same bed as young boys every night. Congratulations! You are a real champion for victims of sexual abuse.

Your obviously full of s***. You could never act emotions or feelings unless you have felt them yourself. Michael Jackson was a Predator who perfected the skill of deception

Carol painter ur full of shit ever heard of actors and actresses proof and facts

Devi Ji why because maybe it might be true?

@@CraigsOverijse might be but you could say that about everyone, also there's more evidence to say he isn't than he is

LOL ....I know right?? 🤢

Any celebrity why not him. Obviously he has fans and a lot of them. Like he said though as a normal parent you tell them no. So the parents clearly justified it in their heads and didnt want to know.

@YES WE CAN STFU with you God Damn race baiting!! Nobody mentioned anything about his race. No wonder your profile pic is Obama. He spent 8 yrs race baiting & dividing the country. * Smh 😑

Half of your comment is spot on. Get your FACTS straight about Michael, he was INNOCENT!!! Have you looked up the FACTS about these two guys???? do your homework :( It was days to find all the facts over the internet and when I had finished I was in shock....so sad...for Michael

Massively to blame those two gold digger others

Mothers

Adam Romero Sadly, the entire family was groomed to trust Michael Jackson, that’s how he was given access to young boys.

Jennifer White no...James Safechucks father was completely sucked in too. But, I do blame the parents. That is why we’re parents....so as a man can’t get your child to sleep in his bed!

NO!!! Michael Jackson is to blame!!!

Wade didn’t get the MJ circus c. Job. He was pissed and broke. So was other guy his family lost all there money in business

He broke too.

Nothing would change your mind about him? well, its idiots like you that somehow dodge natural selection

Funny how you guys are making the assumption that he is guilty even though he went to trial and he was found innocent. If you find that the law did not do justice means that you have a flaw system. Just because people don't share your opinion does not mean that you are correct. At the end of the day we will never know the truth, and MJ will never rest in peace

Dude, chill, He WAS a Business product. Not an artist really.

I was also molested by a family member, but I wasn't groomed and I doubt you were either. It's a very different situation when the child molester love bombs you, convinces you they love you and you love them, and that child molester was your idol and world-famous. They want to be famous for being molested?! You should know better than that. In all their court filings they've left any award of money completely up to a judge or jury, and that's IF they win. Hell, that's IF they'd ever have their day in court, which is unlikely because all they can do is bring a civil case against MJ's businesses. They know their chances of winning or getting into court are slim. So there's no motive of either fame or money. The irony is it was Michael Jackson who was obsessed with attaining fame and money.

Don't worry, MJ Army will always find something to bitch about.

He has a piece of paper so must be true! there's no logic LOL. You need Evidence not a degree

@@marketlider2811 Good luck proving child abuse you piece of trash. You are the reason people don't dare to come out. Let go of your imaginary friend.

Luis Maputo ya but he said dumb things. I know as a victim soo Im not satisfied at all. They sound like liers who wast tough what to say. Especially Wade

@@futojanos You sound like a wack job.

Read "Vindicating Micheal Jackson" ,by Helena for truth and facts.

@@zubair-xj5mn if you did your research you would have some sources or evidence to discuss?

Proof ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-6p8CgdRLnDQ.html

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kp_XA9ycbqk.html

He's been acquitted in court 2 times. That's fact

A D did you not listen the parents were groomed just as the children were

A.D. i agree.

@@CraigsOverijse if that is what you want to claim as a fact, sure. we don't know any of this they state to even be fact. folks are just living through their words and feeling it has to be a fact. regardless, i stand behind what i said. given what i've seen and heard, i'm not inclined to be empathetic to parents in this s%*t. feel free to give them enough empathy for the both of us.

@@arianaraquel1958 they say...umkay. got it. they say.

I have none for them regardless. I firmly believe these accusations are false, based on the evidence, and that these children and families are doing it for fame and fortune, which has been passed down to them from these women. You can see it in the way they were acting on the film, like when Momma Safechuck said she “jumped for joy” when Jackson died in 2009, even though James Safechuck says he didn’t tell anyone of the alleged abuse until 2013. And she “jumped out of bed,” even though MJ died at 3PM in her time zone. Awful woman.

Mj didn't sleep in the same bed, don't know what you're talking about.

Lilly exactly. It’s such common sense. People are blind. Vile Jackson.

maybe because the other evidence says otherwise and people are blinded by fame too

They are trying to look sad CONMEN

James is a bad actor wade has had acting agents classes and jobs he's a little better but James that sad face is so fake

OH, MY GOODNESS! IT IS A SAD DAY IN AMERICA TO SEE SO MANY GULLIBLE PEOPLE!!!! DOES PROOF MEAN ANYTHING ANYMORE!!!??? SO MUCH EVIDENCE HAS ALREADY BEEN PRESENTED!!! WHEN THE TRUTH COMES OUT ABOUT THEIR LIES I HOPE ALL OF THESE SO CALLED EXPERTS AND GULLIBLE PEOPLE CHOKE ON CROW AGAIN, LIKE THEY DID YEARS AGO WHEN HE WAS FOUND NOT GUILTY AT HIS TRIAL! AND WHEN HIS DAUGHTER PARIS SAID AT HIS FUNERAL "DADDY IS THE BEST FATHER ANYONE COULD EVER IMAGINE!" BY THE WAY SEVERAL OF HIS "NIECES" SPEAK VERY HIGHLY OF HIM AS WELL. SO THAT SHOWS HE HAD A LOT OF POSITIVE AFFECTS AND EXPERIENCES WITH FEMALE CHILDREN AS WELL. CONTRARY TO THIS ALWAYS BEING WITH BOYS CRAP! THAT IS WHY SOME OF US WHO ARE LOOKING THROUGH A LENS OF EVIDENCE, JUSTICE AND FACTS CAN SEE THE TRUTH, AND SOME OTHER PEOPLES LENS'S ARE GOSSIP, LIES, HEARSAY, HATE, EMOTIONALISM, JEALOUSY, BEING JUDGEMENTAL AND RACISM WHICH IS CAUSING SOME OF YOU TO BE BLIND AND STAYING BLIND!

How about this was a one sided documentary.

As I start to see more interviews, especially those from Europe ( England), the interviewers are so logical, and are equal to both sides. I loved that on Good Morning Britain, the director was questioned, and no matter what was asked of him, he never really answered their questions. He kept saying, indirectly “you must believe them”. Since when does someone tell another person what, how to think??? Incredible. When Piers Morgan asked about “the money they are seeking” and director says “ no they are not”, then in the same breath, says “what will they do with the money when they get it!!! “ Um hello, it’s only about money!!! I think the tide is slowly, oh so slowly turning on these pathetic people!!!

Omg YES! I would love to see the turn out, those snakes may be able to fake a damn cry because they are actors but I doubt they can fake their heart rate on the world stage xD this would be lovely!

If Wade Robson sees a lie detector he'll run like a horse.

E A Even better would be to put him on TV face to face with Brandi Jackson and get him to tell her that MJ did these things to him. He would crap himself and then we would see the truth.

@Horseman 52 & when they do go to court..i Can't wait for Brandi Jackson2testify against Wade Robson..that they DATED 8years, timelines Don't make sense,Wade Had said..MJ didn't let Wade date girls,& we all Know NOW..wade lied..& His lies are now being DEBUNKED by all the TIMELINES....that's been Inconsistent storytelling By wade & james..these 2punks will lose again for the 3rd time around..NO way in hell they will ever WIN$$$$$$1.6B$$$$$$$ LMFAO..but i find it so Ridiculous,that any judge Allowed these FRAUDS back into the COURT. WTF!!?????!!!!!!??

There isn't and never was any $1.62 billion dollar lawsuit. Look at their court filings yourself. Do your research.

Sogo Smile yes so true when my uncle molested me. I remember the way he smelled. And I was about in my late 30’s. And my husband must of used a new cologne or underarm deodorant. And I was feeling down that day. And he came up to me and kissed me. And right away I started to cry. And I told him he needed to get rid of the smell. And he felt so bad he threw away whatever he had on.

God bless you , I hope you’ve found some peace in your adult years , it’s comments like this that encourage children to come forward & expose these men instead of the negative comments I read calling them liars which only aids the predators

Sogo Smile it makes me sad his die hard fans are more keen to defend him then help sexual abuse survivors. To me this whole saga has opened up a crucial societal conversation - maybe the people defending this are abusers themselves though and they don’t want to face there own truth. Oprah said 1 in 6 Americans have been sexually abused. Doesn’t that mean 1 in 6 Americans are sexual abusers ?! Just so sad

Check this video of Aaron Carter saying MJ was in his bed at 5am in Neverland. Now this seems to be a secret recording. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-7iNY2qqQmXk.html This confirms it for me

@@because0011 this is so sad!!!

So true!

@Varmando Varuso have you been in his bedroom and watched him forcing kids?...no... Doctors can check physical proves of abuse their bodies ..and never did

Why's that? And is that supposed to mean anything at all?

@@Enskyed I didn't think any of those little credibility issues meant anything either and I used to come up with excuses in their favor, because I couldn't believe someone could sit there and lie about such a serious matter. But the more I dig into it the more obvious it becomes they're lying. I believed them, now I feel offended. I just watched that podcast interview with Brandi Jackson, Wade's gf from 12 to 21.

@@isabelfahlen7519 I mean, people lie about this kind of stuff on a daily basis for their own benefits.

I was asked several times by my brother. I do not remember the dates although I could figure it out to a close accuracy. No victim needs to remember every single detail. With these particular accusations, Wade's subpoenaed emails show him admitting to his mother in 2014 that he doesn't recall anything sexual ever happening to him just before coming out with the allegations. No wonder he refused to hand over his emails! Also the stories told in Leaving Neverland were disproved within a week. This has to count for something. Claiming to be molested in Neverland when his family went to Grand Canyon but logs prove Wade went to Grand canyon too. Claiming the abuse happened hundreds of times when logs show he visited Neverland 4 times. Why would Wade's mother dance on his grave in 2009 if Wade only one about the abuse in 2014? Also the paparazzi have ironically contradicted many elements of the proven false accusations because they photographed Jackson constantly. It's ironic that hounding paparazzi are actually the ones defending Jackson now but it's because they have evidence of his whereabouts. Jackson was proven to be in NY at times when he supposedly molested James in Neverland. James and Wade lied about not being before coming out with their individual stories when in 2014, they meet with lawyers. I could go on with further disproven claims... These facts should matter, don't you think?

Niall Hogan mj's lawyers advised him to just settle with Jordan chandler's parents and just move on because he had a huge career ahead of him. If mj was really guilty of molesting Jordan chandler as claimed by the father then why would jordan's father had agreed with the 20 million dollar settlement? Months after mj's death, Jordan's father committed suicide.

@@liletsky5102 PLUS WHO TAKES MONEY IF YOUR CHILD HAS BEEN MOLESTED! IT'S ABOUT THE MONEY PEOPLE!

MJ did not personally give anybody 20000000.... it was his insurance company who insisted that should be done and paid

have you watched the documentary?

Ryan Molinar yes i have , it’s complete bullshit

what if it's not? what if they're telling the truth this time huh?

What if they are not telling the truth? How can MJ defend himself now he is dead. He was not found guilty at the end of the day they use him alive , they are using him in death

Ely D Exactly 🤷🏽‍♀️

Chris spearline.... I found that offensive I happen to suffer with insomnia now since 2012 from ptsd ... he was an insomniac from stress depression and pain!!! Simple!!!!!

I have insomia does that mean i am guilty? Lol...just doesnt make sense at all....why no evidence can point if he ever did so

Im looking forward for the trial....Mjs estate vs. The whole cast of leaving neverland....they really used Mjs video there

How the hell would you know that. That's so stupid.

Who the hell are you?

Parents turned out to be the enemy as well as the accusers. I've been played with, & my parents didn't do Jack s**t. I told them immediately and couldn't stomach looking at the face of my "player"... So these people involved with this sicko fraudumentary are just creepy and greedy for m O n e y. 💸💷💶💷💶💸💰💰💰💵💵💲💲💲 "Anythin for m O n e y...". M J

Being groomed, being played. Look at the comments in this thread.... Michael groomed millions of people.

Somewhere near, planning how to spend the money

@@mairedaly4548 what are you talking about?

@@dvish5263 He not only groomed the children, he groomed their parents to trust him with their children, and then he groomed the public with his role as an ambassador for... www.michaeljacksonslegacy.org/index.php/his-humanitarian-work www.michaeljackson.com/news/mj-trivia-michael-jackson-named-point-light-ambassador/ www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1990-09-17-vw-654-story.html

I don't think it's needed to assume. The man was investigated for 10yrs by the FBI and law enforcement, enough said. You think these 2 guys as kids kept this secret and could lie to the law? Stop feeling and start thinking; what would most people say or do for 1 billion? They've had 10yrs to perfect their stories and lies.

Mark Geeter you obviously haven’t done your research or listen to the majority of psychiatrist that have spoken on the differences in behaviour between males and females when it comes to being abused as children . The data shows that young boys that are abused tend to want to hide it altogether and protect their abusers till their abusers are of no threat anymore, The data is pretty much clear on this . The behaviour of the men that were sexually abused by Jackson as small children is pretty much typical.

That’s what they want you to believe. Why else make a film about abuse, if the so called “victims don’t display victimized stories”. But if you check into wade Robinson’s history you will see there’s much more going on here

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-caT54S8j_3U.html Body language analysis.

Karl KingSon as a Jackson fan and someone that went to watch him live in the 1990s on the dangerous tour , I watched this documentary hoping I would see two people on view to the world that were going to be obvious by acting badly to push a story etc I was extremely disappointed, anyone that tells me these two people were acting are just simply dogmatic, because if they were they could’ve turned Daniel Day Lewis out on his best day with those performances. The one guy has such pain in his eyes you just can’t do that or pull that type of emotional trauma unless it’s real .

The documentary is not absurd, you are for believing a grown ass man who loved sharing a bed with small little boys.

@@AlberteTDK Well he was an easy target I know that much. Maybe that one fact was the catalyst for the rumors which were essentially the foundation for this case. "Mommy I slept in the same bed with the millionaire hermit Michael Jackson" this is golden ticket material for deadbeats degenerates who want to make a quick buck. Trust me when rich vulnerable people drain the swamp of their social circle they will find some monsters. If he was lying about everything he could have lied about the bed part too but he didn't. Either way if he really had an uncontrollable urge to touch kids he could have done it with unknown orphans or children off the radar, instead of doing it with spoiled mommy's boys who he took photo ops with in little outfits in highly publicized events. He could have stashed child porn, he could have done so many other things to prove himself as a guilty man, but the dots don't connect.

Johanne Lavergne Excellent point you make here, one I can agree with based on statistics and evidence. The abused children are "groomed" by these people who are held up as being beyond mere humans... as being somehow "godlike" or as one to be idolized. Sadly, when one holds another person in such high regard, these same people then fail to view their idols as being the imperfect creations we all are, failing to see they err. This is true for all, we all err and we all fall short... be they entertainers or be they self professed "men of God".

yep ikepsaying it,he only gotaway with because of who he was.same asthe priests .

MADKIDD623BHN are you serious? There are letters he wrote to the kids. Faxes. Tons of witnesses that he slept alone in bed with young boys. He even admits he talked at least one boy by saying if you love me you will sleep in my bed. Now let’s compare that to Kavanaugh. Ummm I don’t remember exactly where or when. The friend that was supposedly there with me says she has no idea what I’m talking about. There is no evidence that I had ever even met the guy. But yeah you should still believe me. The two cases are not even close to be the same thing.

Ok I'm going to break this down as simply as possible. YOU NEED PROOF. CONCRETE PROOF. This is why rape trials are hard to convict. Unless there are pictures, DNA, witnesses(who dont see more than 2 humans in bed together in a non sexual way), video evidence...we are going on a he said she said trial. We cant accuse and put someone in jail because it sounds convincing. Otherwise our jail cells would be packed. Christine Ford says she was at a party one night where kavanaugh raped her yet cant remember where, when and who else was there. These two accusers of Michael bring this up after he has passed away and have a $1.6 billion dollar appeal going on in court. This documentary could be a way to sway opinions. They have omitted a lot and several moments of the documentary have already been debunked. I wished people dont lie about this stuff but it does happen. We cant just believe everything were told otherwise jussie smollett would be still bragging how brave and heroic he is against maga white supremacists.

@Nalle puh omg, moments like this I really question humanity. Ok, please enlighten me. What proof do you have that I am blind to?

The energy was there, the people believing them were there. Everyone with 2 brain cells believed her. Everyone with a shred of empathy believed her and fought for her and supported her. It just so happens that Kavanaugh is a Republican sociopath who is directly supported by Trump. More on point, do you really, honestly think that a grown ass adult "sleeping" 1 on 1 with children on the regular is not even remotely suspicious? Even a little bit? A tiny teeny bit only? Really?

@@ManubibiWalsh 2 brain cells? Yeah, I wouldn't argue with that actually. Considering that any Ford supporters couldn't grasp that we have due process or there were holes in her story, but blindly scream "believe the victim!" Otherwise you are labelled a "rapist sympathizer". I wonder if this happened to someone you loved or you, being accused, and because the story was horrific enough everyone wanted to hang you without hearing your voice, would you be so quick to say "believe the victim!"? I cant believe people like you live in our world. Can I believe it that a grown adult can sleep in a bed without doing anything to a child? Yes. Do I think it's ok? No. I have my personal reasons. But Michael is innocent in this case.

then why the hell they had this lying creep on?

great observation. she nudged him when he mentioned Jussie Smollett. Jussie Smollett has been in the news recently for staging a hate crime assault by paying the police under the table. Essentially it was a hoax.

Its all about Perspective her husband pushed her to say that

nope they saw it as special .. like what that pedophile was .. and still is to alot of people who think he is just divine .. but he is actually a vile criminal , and a junkie

What did you just say?

LOL you a sorry excuse of a smart Person. Watching two guys lying. Dude you really believe everything you see. No journalistic research was done by the makers of this movie. They makers even confirmed it.

Absolutely not, I remember the trial. Either they were lying on him them or NOW. Makes no difference, if true, then the parents sold their kids out for sex. If it's false, and let's face it... these men are proven liars, I hope all involved parties are sued down to their britches by the Jackson estate.

THATS WHAT I SAAYYYYYYYYYYY

Resin Maniacs the reason they only just told was because they were convinced as boys that they would be put in jail if they told anyone. Now they understand that it’s a lie and that’s why it took them 10 years. They were kids for christ sakes have some fucking sympathy. Oh and please watch the documentary it will change your mind.

But $1.62 bln probably can do the right thing :)

I have be abused and I would never ask to use that place for my marriage like one of these men did.

True, which is why when their timelines of alleged abuse are off by 3-7 years, we know it’s a lie.

@@dvish5263 sarcasm 😂😂😂

@@dvish5263 Except there isn't and never has been any billion dollar lawsuit. Do your research.

It is not a documentary. It is a one sided propaganda fiction film - designed to exploit the weak minded into believeing it's true.

COPE

AeroBar yeah, boys that want his money! Yah right. I'll look at my poster everyday! I love looking at him. A sweet innocent man!

Byron Cudworth you cope

Byron Cudworth I will

He is explaining it if you listen.

Yes dude, your memory in abuse/trauma is /stays very vivid.

Amanda H exactly

Understand and agree with all that, but it does not explain why the stories of these now men contain so many blatant falsehoods and ignores the massive financial motivation, which was the first play of each.

Lost Forever you must be brainless to be able to say that...Michael always was stranding by young children, why would 34 years old sleep with 7 years old...

WTH!!? Do you know anything about this Wade guy...check. Even if MJ were guilty, this guy never slept with him.

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B Stop believing everything they said. Fools. Why would MJ set up his NIECE, Brandi Jackson, with Wade if he was interested in him and WHY was that conveniently LEFT OUT "Leaving Neverland?" Don't you think Wade dating MJ's niece for 7 YEARS is important??? And you do know why they broke up? HE CHEATED ON HER WITH BRITNEY SPEARS WHEN SHE WAS DATING JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE. LMAO Leaving Neverland 1 SIDED DOCUMENTARY IS THE REAL FAKE NEWS. This is Brandi's statement ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-8ZCYRr1x1sg.html&index=8&list=PLgtqguZ9lgC6jVkX-rBfcHqrtWPujOG2B

@@markgeeter8728 How do you know that he never slept with Michael?

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x390rVfx3Qg.html In the 2005 case the DA even planted evidence on MJ.

@@aimeemacdn What evidence do you have he did? The testimony of 2 known liars; sounds like "Smolletting", to me.

Agreed.

You said it!!...what a travesty this above video is. I am ashamed of them as paid but not professional news reporters.

you are a coward!

But It was okay for Hollywood to enable Rock Hudson and the law did nothing about his predatory behavior. Rock Hudson openly broadcast his sexual behavior with young boys in his home and in his life, Hollywood forced him to marry to cover up his behavior, but, he continued molesting and on a physical relationship with young boys, and hollywood and the law, loved this man, and did nothing to him about his perverted behavior, when MJ was found not guilty, no evidence, did good toward others. In addition, why arent Robson and Safechuck being brought up on felony charges for falsified reporting and perjury charges like they are doing toward Jussie? They are both professional liars. MJ is innocent! But, Rock Hudon wasnt, so why are people like Oprah, Gayle, Dan, HBO, the News Reporters, and little minded people, rallying around these two liars. It is pathetic how small minded some people are about MJ. May MJ RIP, I stand with MJ and will continue to listen to and play his music now and forever. And I ask MJ fans to stay and stand strong against Robson, Safechuck and End your subscription with HBO. We love you MJ, now and forever..., the King of POP💋

Damn right I would!

any parent that allows their children to be left alone with a stranger, needs to have their kids taken off them. People somehow mix knowing somehow as a celebrity to knowing them personally and use that as a crutch to look past his irrefutably strange behaviour, especially around children.

*wouldn't

yes i totally agree what parents allow a sleep over at a grown mans house in his bed like WTF?!

Middle aged men. Not boys. Both are Pathological liars.