I'm a new ranked player and am in bronze. ~50 games played around ~57% win rate. I definitely see some people who just cant control their characters, but I actually see a lot more people who are pretty decent on their champ in a bronze context (good kda, high win rate, high cs/minute), but either have really poor decision making or map awareness. I have terrible map awareness, and often don't know what to do to win a game. I play top lane and one game the enemy mid irelia got insanely fed (10+ kills in 15 minutes), but then just kept tower diving 1v2 or 1v3 and giving us free kills. They knew how to play irelia, but had no idea what to do after they got fed.
I do think it could also equally be that your mind laner also didn't know how how to play into Irelia though. Irelia is a skill check champion in that if you don't know what she does she can easily kill you even level 1. Other champions just don't have that kill threat like she does if you don't know what they do e.g. you will never die to a Syndra or Vel'koz level 1, because they just don't have the damage. Because people dying like that is something you can see all the way up to platinum and they just brute force it.
If you win lane go split push opposite side of objective.Watch minimap so u don't die. If they go for you go outside vision then repeat when they stop chasing. That should get you to at least platinum.
You will for sure climb. The potential is there If you can point out mistakes and be aware like that, you’re already better than most in low elo. Trust the process and keep getting better.
@@thecraws23 Yup, I am a gold jungler but silver laner. And I am trying to play just Trynda atm looking into fundamentals from Alois. Trying to see how wave management goes, and mid game see when the enemy is trying to scout for a objective and as u said splitpush the other side. I got to get better in my early game though.
@@RedGalaxyFishboneI am emerald 1 pushing for diamond. I play mid top, vlad and kassadin.My edvice: Learn how to slow push then reset or dive. When you stack few waves and dive someone they lose most amount of gold and xp.trind is great for that. Then split. You shold almost never group with trinda couse he is not that good at 5v5. Try to snowball earlygame and end in mid game couse if you don't you can get outscaled. Hlhf😊
I don't know if you guys have done it before, but I think it would be cool to see "Guess The Elo" between the two of you. Maybe you could each have viewer/coaching clips set up to test each other?
It's actually crazy how spot-on the gold analysis for junglers is. I have a friend who is silver 2 and mains jungle spamming Nocturne whereas I have climbed to Emerald playing support and whenever I watch him play I can see the exact mistakes pointed out that gold junglers typically make. I have watched this guy be level 5 on Noct having 2 camps in his topside available to clear skip over them to take Void grubs on spawn despite having a recalling mid laner and a shoved in top laner, only to die cos he got spotted out and collapsed on and then just rage at his team in chat for, "Not coming to help me". He constantly makes bad calls like this every game and blames his teammates in chat. He's a fantastic guy out of the game but whenever he plays League he turns into a completely different person when things go bad. I think 'mental' for people at lower elos is a huge issue because people struggle to accept responsibility for their decisions being incorrect due to a lack of game/champion knowledge, and it's easier or more 'convenient' to blame other people rather than recognizing your own flaws. On that last point though, I think most people at lower elo's aren't playing with the intention to learn so that they can become better players. They're playing for the sake of climbing rank as it's rewarding to reach whatever elo they want to. 'Learning' for these types of people seems like a chore most likely cos they view League as just a game so putting in external effort (VOD reviews, watching coaching vids, consuming content to improve, etc.) is seen as boring. It's akin to highschool where you'll attend your classes and do the work there, but any homework given to you makes you roll your eyes (But in most cases you'll still do the homework or else you'll face consequences). This mentality is wild to me though because they're spamming so many LoL games that if they took 15-30 minutes out of their 6-7 hour League grind to sit there and watch a video on 'How to jungle as nocturne' and actually use that information in game they'd effectively cut their climb in half and get to gold/plat/emerald so much faster.
I have a buddy like this. He is in emerald. He's got great hands, but he can't get out of emerald due to mental. A combination of refusing to improve his league IQ and just tilting too easily. He just assumes everyone sees the game the way he does, and he gets mad if they don't. I don't mind him much, but his ego can be annoying at times. Especially when the little knowledge he does have is from me coaching/teaching him when we used to duo lol.
@@faveology Yeah. League is a rough game. It's a 5v5 game where at any point your teammate can throw and then you just play at an unfair advantage. It's so easy to rage and tilt at league bc youre either stomping or getting shit on, and if youre getting stomped by a fed adc bc your botlane just sucks then its not fun for anyone
@@sekischro5093my biggest advice is to watch vods and question your own decisions that you make in game and how it impacts the rest of the game compared to pros or other high elo players. It helped me get through diamond and I sit mid master
Thanks for reading out my question! (I'm the last mailbag submission) It was a bit more long winded than i intended while writing it so my bad if it was confusing lol. Great episode guys :)
PLEASE guys if you can make shorter summarised videos with animations.I love this logical rhinking explanations and attacking the riot problems you are 100% real and og but please guys think for the people who have limited time but love your work.Hope this becomes a reality
Gold and plat really do feel like those ranks where you as a player are finally confident on your champion and now to transition you have to be confident in your decision making, and especially learn to just let the wins come to you. gold and plat are the biggest "led but lost" or "slow to end" games where players dont realize they already won the game 15 minutes ago and dont have to do any more.
I think for me, the biggest eye opener to league has been just playing a lot of normal games with way more skilled players than myself. My old friend group was around bronze-gold level way back when the old rift was still a thing. I viewed the game very ignorantly. Only KD mattered. Killing enemies was winning. Dying was losing. If we got more kills than the lane opponent and lost, it was team diff. My new friend group that I met in uni around 5 years ago, also played League and invited me to do some casual normal games. I had at that point been on a few years of break after my old friends stopped playing. But these guys were high plat-high diamond elo in soloQ. So I just got CRUSHED every game. After being humbled a lot, I started picking up on things. Like having my toplane wave frozen on me a few times, made me realize that I can't just ignore the wave. Being out farmed and getting stat checked even though I was 2-0, made me realize I can't roam while ignoring the state of my lane. I started understanding lane priority, after first understanding how important experience and gold from minions is. Being slow pushed under the turret with 2+ waves of minions, allows the enemy laner to freely join skirmishes, forcing me to choose if I want to help my team at the cost of being set massively behind. Much more moments like these, got me into watching educational league content for the first time. Not just SivHD juke montages, uberdanger's full AD meme build videos, etc. That helped it really click. Made me see the game as this complex dance of information, decisions, and execution.
I jungle with high emerald low diamond players (two of them to be exact) and a mixture of everyone in between and I see the game wayyy differently then most people and anytime I play with someone who's closer to my elo (gold and below, I'm bronze) I'm like wait a minute, they didn't ward this? He's low health, why is he still pushed up? Is your monitor on? Now, one thing I don't like about playing with my high elo friends is they take all the kills and never rotate with those kills. So many times that their super behind laners come and kills me on an objective that should never be contested 3v1 and they're still toplane/midlane pushing waves. Not saying I'm good at the game or anything but laners who's behind should never be able to rotate to an objective and contest it.
behind laners have no chance but take stupid risk to have chance at getting back into game. Otherwise they just autolose the game so of course they gonna look for contest and roams. All your winning teammate has to do is snatch tier2 for insane income, get 4 item and then join fights where they clean up.If you're ahead, you never pull the trigger. You keep yourself even with enemy, which technically means u're perma ahead of them if they can't find plays on the rest of your team. So yeah, if u're toplaner Avoid ur team like plague, except where u can cleanup, as midlander roam everywhere, as botlane , sup and jg you fight together usually with mid, while toplane poses threat: enemy either fights 4 of you as 5 (you win game by split push) , enemy sends enough player to deal with turbo fed top (they lose against 4 of you vs 3 or 2 enemy) or they go all in on toplaner, which for you means free objective. Ignoring hostile roams might look like inting, but it's just the formula to eventually win with great gold advantage
For the top % of players for ranks want to mention that its top 5% of players at diamond at the moment when the split ends its actually usually top 10% based off last split
...Everyone I know in Emerald fits Nathan's description, but Curtis is also right. Most of them are missing very core fundamentals in their gameplay. Wave management, recall timers, etc. The only people I know in Emerald who don't fit these descriptions are people who are really Diamond-Masters players who are ELO sitting for leagues.
13:00 lmao .. i just back to league from a 5 years break and was placed iron as much as this might sound harsh but for the majority of the This elo this description almost accurate.
Couldn't disagree more on your assessment of Bronze. I peaked emerald adc S12, and fell from Gold to Bronze on my alt account playing 300 games of Vlad mid. Don't tell me it's because I'm still learning to control my mouse lol. I can farm well, take small trades, dodge ganks, take good reset timings, look for all-ins with lvl and item spikes, then rotate around the map catching waves when needed and then drawing multiple enemies to my pressure on pushes. But low elo is so painfully random. It's impossible to make the right play when your teammates are totally unpredictable. Will my tank engage after I recall, will my adc stroll into fog for no reason, will my jg show up to smite the free dragon? Will half my team chicken out and run away mid-fight? Some games I can't lose and others I can't win. Everything else, I have to hope my team can hold their mental until lategame and then I try to 1v9 repeatedly without making any mistakes. I have a feeling the reason I'm in bronze is my champ. Not because I don't know how to play the game at a decent level
As someone who was bronze in 2022 and iron as a returner, I feel like the iron one is a bit simplified. Most iron players aren't that bad at their champion, runes and items but we are terrible at virtually all other areas of the game. Sure, there's a few outliers who are easier to fight than a bot, but that isn't the norm. For me the main problems in iron is being unable to escape ganks (even if I'm 10/0 the jungler can just kill me as a mage and take bounty), being late to fights, profound lack of vision (what even is in vision score I use all my wards), and if I don't play yuumi then low cs (2-4) becomes a problem. By playing yuumi I can fix being late to fights, needless deaths, low gold, gank vulnerability and lack of endgame influence and it gets me s ranks but she is useless solo and I'm trying to main xerath for more agency. Thx for the video tho it helps a lot :D
Emerald is the new Elo Hell. I've gotten 2 accounts to Master and guess what I spent the most time struggling in Emerald because your opponent is good enough that you don't just shit on them every game and your team is stupid enough to throw a game whenever they want and you CAN NOT control them because your team is either /deafen or /mute all and your ping is limited so you can't even shot call your team to do anything
this video's analysis is good from a general perspective. anecdotally however, ive played league on and off since the start (have the bowser rammus skin wherever that came from). i mained ADC for a long time and made plat early on. from that high-point i finished high gold or low plat every season i played maining different roles each season. i take my role flip-flopping as the main reason i got hard-stuck in gold. this season i did my placements with nearly a leaver or afk in every game and placed IRON 3. ive been stuck in iron for nearly a hundred games. i discovered this channel and think it has an amazing approach to learning even outside of league. it's helped me objectively improve. however, the more i play with intent to improve and not caring about the outcome of the game, ive actually been more convinced that my improvement journey has nothing to do with rank. i usually would quit whenever i'd hit gold, and this season ive actually played more. it almost feels like riot rather me play more but rank up slower cause they know i quit around gold. i agree with the learning/bettering approach of this channel and think its immensely important for slow positive and compounding progress. but since im a dev, i also understand that the business side would ask developers to keep players engaged longer in the season. with the data they have on the backend, i dont know a manager that wouldnt be tempted.
This is literally why they went from 1 season to 3 splits. Drives more player engagement and slows down re-climbs with the soft resets. It's complete bullocks. There's also the fact that if u lose a lot u'll sometimes get a really easy game because the system is checking if it needs to drastically tank your MMR to get u placed to a better rank more quickly; and vice versa with a really hard game if u win a lot (it feels pretty bull in the moment, but it does make sense to try and combat smurfs/ppl who rusted out of a rank after a long break)
@@Freakattaker ah good point. it's too bad cause imho league is one of the best games. i still have a lot of fun playing. but i don't like getting jerked around with moving goal posts and hidden metadata being used to tweak players stats through semi-forced wins/losses. but what do i know, ive never managed a competitive game at this scale and i wonder what the alternative to EOMM or whatever even would be. deep down, i bet this very issue i have with the game is why it continues to keep me hooked 🤣
I enjoyed playing 1v5 bot games quite much back when I started playing (like the first 2 years and I was about silver). I don't think it's to educational, if you just approach that to win. At least you can play it without learning anything about enemy kits, because you can stomp just fine ignoring their kits. The bots are just to bad. The only thing needed to stomp a bot 1v5 is a basic understanding of your own kit and not being afraid of taking ressources. Which thereby also seems like the only thing you can learn there relatively efficiently.
if you are gold and below, you are stuck because teams don't do anything or are bots. 15 years and never got past silver because it takes games in a row to be promoted but 1 loss is 4 games down the drain.
People like to think CC is the ultimate game changer. So they think of all of the hindrances of enemy teams in terms of what CC tool they have and people avoid them hard. They don't really explicitly fear slows that are in kits as... obviously. So the danger seems SOFTER but if it leads to death, it is just as dangerous. Now come to the next thing... SELF-CC. Making wrong decisions are the MOST destructive form of CC. When you cast a spell OR auto-attack, your champion stops. You have CC'd your champion. Holding spells prevents that CC... you can wait for times when your self-CC doesn't equate to a death. Furthermore... You can CC yourself which is terrible. Like wasting time roaming from mid for a gank... and it not turning out. Or not basing for items as jungle to go save a losing play.
i play toplane and dropped out of emerald 2 times because of botlane. They just cant hold their s it together. 15/2 Jhin 20/10 Aphelios 10/1 Jhin 10/4 Ashe 10/1 Jhin 10/6 Kai'sa I simply can't win those. Impossible. Edit: All those games in a row by the way. The games I won befor I had also to face stronger botlanes. What is this?
Im a completely New Player and try to learn the game completely on my own in solo Q. i barely know what some Heroes do. Everytime the game starts i quickly Google the enemy jungler to know what He does and if he is aggressive. I just want to have a onetrick to go jungler with a bread and butter item build to just spam and learn enemies and the flow of the game. Amumu is ok i think. But ive red that he is bad the higher you come. What junglers can you guys recommend i can play EVERY game, are always at least decent i as a complete beginner in iron can spam and learn the fundamentals?
Every elo- get wrecked in a lobby by a system, because the game wants to. Meta picks, off meta picks- game just doesn’t care, it makes me loose despite any of my efforts. Silver 4 to iron 3 in a year this season. Coach this XD vs bots 1v5… these 0-15 heim top are your clients I suppose… Then who feeds your bots?XD
Noone is talking about the elephant in the room. Everyone and their mother smokes weed now, there's literally hundreds of thousands of people perma smoking and queuing. Silver-Plat is full of this.
kids just understand nowdays masters isnt anything special, people have ego with 200lp and dont understand game. So dont be like other people ohhh master grandmaster is a god, no is not, its a usually mental or the way how u think in the game bassicialy what u could do better
Something i find people overlook/dont speak about very often is just the basic skill creep of the ranked system. Moving from silver to gold i felt the enemy players get faster and take advantage of things like fog occasionaly, and then i moved to plat and felt another increase as the enemies just felt way more dangerous, killing me at what i felt like was 1 frame worth of missclicl. Then i made it into emerald and i felt like the smallest mistake on my part would blow my lane open and ruin the game. You have to constantly be improving all skills you have developed, not just be looking for new ones. The best experience i ever had was vsing a diamond 1 smurf while i was in emerald 3. He showed me how much time i REALLY had vsing normal emerald players and helped me level up my threat assessment one little notch.
What to work on in each rank: Iron - learn what your champ does and learn to deal damage Bronze - work on micro and character control test Silver - fundamentals, be engaged and think about most actions Gold - consistency test for fundamentals and matchup Plat - use lull states and gather information Emerald - focus on details that add up, keep stage 4 down, value of kills, win cons, take responsibility Diamond - big picture, next level champ mastery, draft starts to matter, coach cupcakes ACE Did not fully go through master, will finish later :DD
your take on platinum being a holiday rank "if you get to platinum, you're probably on your way to emerald, or you would have never got to platinum in the first place" is very true for me. i spent 5 years peak silver, about a year peak gold. once i peaked platinum i hit emerald a month later
Bro you describing iron and low bronze really made me feel like i deserve to be there. My rank is inflated because my mechanics are really good but i am full braindead when it comes to actually playing out a match. If i didn’t have the mechanics i would easily drop from plat to bronze 1 at best. I try to improve my macro and i do a lot of research and studying but i can’t get anything to stick. The best way i can describe it is imagine having a completely empty head, its almost like being in a dream where things are just happening to you, nothing makes sense, and all you can do is react. It’s a really hard place for me to be in because when i play other games I have very high levels of comprehension and can see 15 steps ahead and predict and aggress, i even reached top 100 players NA in PUBG back in the hayday. However, I’ve been playing league since 2012 and for this game alone I’ve never had the ability to read and understand the game, which is why i keep playing because its the one game i can’t mentally lock in with and solve.
Never would have thought I would hear about that submarine going to the titanic in a broken by concept episode, but as always managed to put a smile on my face.
I'm one of those players that jumped straight into ranked as soon as I was level 30 and a lot of this really rings true for me. I didn't even know all of the champions names, much less what they did or what lanes they usually were in. And I've been there for a couple years now for the other reasons y'all talked about - with a full time job, even with a ~60% WR now that I've actually made an effort to really learn things and focus on my gold income and fighting, I just don't have enough games in a season (or split now) to climb. I should've been able to peek into Bronze last split, but then I had to pack for a big move so I'm still yet to even do placements. And I also really think that at this point in my league experience, I really wish that I'd needed a level 50 account before I was allowed into ranked. I may have still tanked my MMR, but I feel like i probably would've had a better time. Anyway as always thanks for the content y'all make!
I really love the reflections that arise from your exploration of the top lane role. It's really great to see you expand your perspectives and learn something new
@@raygun2180yes if you’re well above it. But a bronze or low level silver player cannot 1 v 9 out of iron like that. It’s why iron has people who appear better and shouldn’t be there. Playing ranked before you’re ready will legit lock you into that Leo because you hosed your mmr. You know stuff but not enough of everything. It’s frustrating and can 100% confirm the part about playing ranked before you’re ready.
@@ryangrady5977 couple things wrong about this. 1. When I was low silver I could still 1v9 or at least win p much every iron game 2. There is no iron players who shouldnt be there they have the rank because they deserve the rank if they were better theyd climb. Making excuses helps no one 🤷♂️ 3. If you actually know enough to be a bronze/silver player you will climb to those ranks every single friend ive had who accepts that has gotten out but the like 4-5 who can’t eventually stopped playing. 4. Playing ranked before youre ready is 100% true i agree with that and I push every new player to play tons of bots even with me. However, (just read #3 again)
Tldr gets emerald for free troll picking and not super invested in how to get good. I peaked emerald 2 for sure could have peaked higher but the game is boring. I know alot of different stuff, and useally think ahead. Only play 2-3 champs. Know my matchups, dont waste sums/ult. Know when im strong and weak. I only played for 2 years. started season 12. I peaked emerald 4 for the first time with heartsteel ashe. playing it like 10 games in a row. I wasnt super invested back then which is a year ago or so now. How people dont get emerald is wild to me since I got it for free.
when nathan said you dont see platinum platinum every season but see emerald emerald every season, i was like what the f, emerald was introduced last season, you couldnt have been emerald, either you got it last year and now this year and thats it
Well it was Emerald was prob around high plat in older seasons or low diamond; which is about right. That's an area I was stuck in for a while until I found Nathan's channel. And Gold 3~Plat 4 is right around the vacation range. People often stopped at Gold 4/Gold 5 for their ranked season reward and didn't bother to improve, or they improved until they reached Plat 5/4 and then continue to gradually push into that "Emerald" range.
@@Freakattaker well, in that regard, i can kinda relate, i was kinda hard stuck gold for 3 years, but then when they announced that emerald is coming next split, i grinded my ass into plat 4, literally after reaching it, i was strangely underwhelmed. I thought i would be happier, but just ended there and thought this is enough and left it for the season, waiting for emerald to go live. If not for the emerald news, honestly, i might have stayed in vacation mode and never reached plat, so looking back, still happy for my dedcation at the time :DDD
One big thing for me as a new player is skins. Dont get me wrong I absolutely love customization options in games, but when starting playing league it almost feels like learning 5 times the amount of champs.
Quantity of games 0layed eoesnt mean ACTUAL mastery of a champion. It just means you played zed for 3000 games in terrible QUALITY games. Champ mastery points only gauges qauntity of games played. Not quality
theres no difference between bronze to gold. Its basically the same rank. People want there to be a difference to make themself feel better. "Well at least im not bronze!" , says the silver player. "Well at least im not silver!" , says the gold player. Yeah youre both not very good.
I have to admit Curtis was 100% right in my case, I reached platinum and I felt content there and stopped pushing and after dropping back down to gold I was reignited with the desire to push forward again
The issue with master rank is that, your team goes for dumb ass invades even tho you have 0 cc, they die and the next thing you see is: GG FF15 go next. thats master rank for you :)
After you guys learn ADC and SUP is Curtis going to learn Jungle and Nathan MID? I think that could make for really interesting discussion, especially if the two of you have a bit of a different interpretation of some elements of the role. Keep it up guys you’re killing it in my eyes!!!
I'm one of those long term emerald players, split 3 or 4 in emerald. I have improved as a player over the last 1-2 splits but I haven't been able to get out of emerald and stay out of emerald.
what you say about emerald (hardstuck here, peak D4 last 2 splits) at 49:55 is so true and i always forget it. i just end up queueing for the sake of trying to climb but i'm playing at such a low intensity. when i feel a game is lost i kind of lose the momentum and enjoyment, and i subconsciously take the match less serious even if i'm still trying. i think that is my issue
You guys should look at the UPS driver drill and how it relates to climbing league. Could be a good exercise for your students in league to see what they're thinking about during lane and to get them to be mindful and focused. There's vids on RU-vid
About your question @ around 38:30 , I've been stuck in Platinum from season 4 to 11. Once I took the game seriously in season 12 I reached High Diamond and even ended in Master by the end (that's when I first wrote to the mail bag). I definitely coasted for those 9 years in Platinum. And it was really tough getting out of Platinum. I needed to polish a ton of fundamentals and after many, many months everything clicked and I shot up about 300 LP almost effortlessly. Before there was Emerald, it was a super egotistical rank because you are so close to Diamond but the difference was huge. I think mentally this is where a lot of players get stuck because they know quite a bit and have a decent feel for the game but it's hard to accept the nature of it being a team game and your role in that team.
the problem with league is that every elo has its own playstyle that you need to adjust to. You cant play the same way in plat as you played in gold. YOu cant play the same way in Emerald as you palyed in Diamond or Master. Some things simply dont work.
I have the same experience.. I sometimes Coach gold player's for fun and have to almost scream at them to not go for a 1v2 stupid play or actually just sidelane. The instinct to just outright omega int is very strong in this elo
Speaking as a Bronze top lane player, the rules are definitely not hard and fast. The variance in player skills and talents is wild. There are some players who have incredible trading and wave management skills, but have no idea how to team fight. There are some with great mechanics who just go absolutely phsycho at every moment of the game and either snowball or int feed. There are junglers who counter jungle and dumpster the other jungler for the 15 minutes, then just run it down on repeat because they don't know how to play after laning phase. It goes on and on like this with various examples that contradict the generalizations made in this video. I think high Bronze/Silver players are actually pretty good at the things they can do, they just can't do the rest of them and put a complete game together.
Emerald for me was my lazy I played for 10+ years in low diamond, 0 effort/autopiloting playing every champions, every role. And as soon as I started being intentional with my games and played mid only I went from emerald / old d4 to master in 1 split. The home of stage 4 issues.
It's pretty crazy how much better the playerbase has gotten over time. Back in the day I got plat by literally just having ok-ish character mechanics but lacking all the fundamentals of macro and information gathering. I then took a 7 year break and I'm amazed how even bronze and silver players have such good fundamentals novadays. I sort of expected to get to gold by just winning my lanes and kiting people to death like I did before, but it turned out no. I really had to start filling in the huge gaps in my understanding of the game to even get into high bronze I'd say. Especially in regards to macro and resources. Like, now even if I win lane every time I'd still lose every game to macro mistakes, and that was not the case before. Even stuff like vision is just insanely good. I remember it being a thing you had to constantly remind bronze and silver players of, and having supps that just, didn't ward. Now they like, fight over vision before an objective comes up without prompting, even in bronze! It's crazy stuff.
Just got to the gold part in the vid. I'd say my experience climbing to silver so far has been that junglers in bronze constantly went for cross-map plays. Like, if enemy jungler ganks top, they will do drake and vice versa. So you saying that gold players don't have that sort of awareness felt kinda weird. Definitely there were some absolutely inane junglers, and the suicidical objective calls where players just refuse to back down are very much a thing. But I'd say the basic concept of cross mapping is something that exists down in bronze now, in I'd say most games.
I completely agree with you. I've never seen another competive game where bronze/silver is played at such a high level. Just because emerald+ players are nearing a cieling which is worlds beyond, it doesn't mean that the floor isn't also very high.
The only time I was ever stuck in Platinum was way back before Emerald existed. So really at that time, by today's standards, I would have been stuck in Emerald. My first season I was silver then I ran straight through gold into plat.
For iron you missed troll/inter. I've been playing JG and tbh, my mental was not as strong so at the first sight of a bad play/teammate I'd basically give up. I climbed from Iron IV to now Bronze 3. I think I can get to low/mid silver. JG Xin and now Jarvan Main: XinRhinoPill#4555
I always stop after Platinum because I only play 20 - 50 games and in those games I have to report at least 2+ players per game and my mental can't handle those stupid kids XD so I go until P4 and quit the game altogether because even in Normasl u get flamed for no reason.... the only way for me to play this game and enjoy it is 3-5 man squads in flex and that was the time I reached D2 - Master, but the game is unplayable under 3 premads because there are way too many toxic kids flaming or just trolling
I’m a former s3 gold player and ngl I see iron footage that looks mechanically way more sophisticated than anything I’ve ever done or seen in my games … yeah safe to say I’m never touching ranked bc I know where I’ll end up
The reason why High bronze is more silver like is beacuse they get put in games with silver players. So for them to win the game, they need silver understanding of the game. So a bronze and bronze 4 is massive skill gap. But silver 4 and bronze 1 is similar.
Leauge was not my first moba, so in seasone 1-3 it went pretty good. As I played HoN. But I would say that I was alot better in HoN, as bot carry wernt just marksman.
At first I was kind of insulted by the long term platinum comment, but I was stuck in plat 2-1 during seasons 5-8. I got emerald the instant it was released so I guess it makes more sense if you look back at most like 3 years
So ive been only playing normals and i have about 215ish games on seraphine and i want to try and get into ranked as her so should i try out other champs in normals that i struggle against so i can know what to do better? Or should i just jump into ranked and see how i do now?
My advice would be to just jump into ranked, i think you can learn alot about the matchups and game by just focusing on your main...the moment you start playing ranked you will improve way more than by just playing normals... Dont be anxious about it, just do your best and dont listen to the toxic people...they'll forget you as soon as the game is over. Do your best and you will climb. Godspeed ✌🏼
ive been plat for a year and just got to play again this season. I definitely think my current rank is really extended high gold. (39:01) I do think one of my biggest problems is not knowing when to punish.
I am an iron level player that got placed in platinum (or whatever is after gold) days after I installed the game. Goes without saying I lost and got death threats every game so I uninstalled it, I wish I could start in silver or smth
I was hardstuck silver and gold for 9 years and in one season i jumped to diamond 4. now i play between diamond and emerald. I had to take a moment and realize the losses were all my fault XD
Im high emerald and dont even know what every champ passive does. like what does reksais red and yellow bar mean? no i dea, just dodge the skillshot so she cant ult from distance, thats all i need :D
Honestly your takes on iron are pretty weak. There are a lot of very strong iron players who single handedly win games. Unless these are smurfs, your picture of iron is wrong.
