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Breaking down the Arizona Fatal offroad recovery 

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Video produced with permission from the woods family.
PR Director Justin King walks us through the recovery forces at play in Arizona that ultimately killed Ryan Woods. This video will demonstrate some hitches that should never be used for recovery, and demonstrate just some of the gear that is actually rated for recovering vehicles.
Kinetic recovery ropes, Gatorjaw shackles, Safe-Xtract gear, Factor 55 gear, all have very high WLL (working load limit) gear designed for safe vehicle recovery.
Please seek training from an I4WDTA trainer if you're doing offroad recovery work as a volunteer or paid profession. Please open your mind to adapting to new ways to safely recover vehicles. Going in and "flooring it" to get onto your next job is just going to get someone killed.
Stop using trailer hitches and tow balls!
Please share far and wide so nobody else has to die when they get stuck offroad.

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@jeffreycoombs9485
@jeffreycoombs9485 Год назад
I'm guilty of using my tow hitch to recover trucks and trailers. I think for me it's a case of you don't know what you don't know, and when you find out, it's too late. I'm glad I found this video and really appreciate Ryan's wife for allowing you to use their story to educate others on the dangers. I am very sorry for her loss, but incredible that she see's the possibility to help others despite her grief. Quite a woman! I'm ordering the right tools ASAP.
@DirtandoilUTAH
@DirtandoilUTAH Год назад
Well said
@MorgellonsDelusion
@MorgellonsDelusion Год назад
Well said.
@cyberbully3704
@cyberbully3704 Год назад
Well said
@smallfgb
@smallfgb Год назад
100% she probably saved me. Been doing this wrong getting lucky
@TheLittlered1961
@TheLittlered1961 Год назад
Very sad but very rare. Straps are the most dangerous. More stretch, more dangerous. Drop hitches are up there too. Longer the hitch, more torque that is applied. It is called leverage. I do not like either. I prefer my winch. Not 100% safe, but safer than kinetic force.
@bernecomp
@bernecomp Год назад
Holy crap. I've been dancing with death for years and I didn't even know it. Thank you so much for this video. Lives are going to be saved.
@ColemanCanna
@ColemanCanna Год назад
Ya same here. i worked with cranes for many years but never have i thought about this when coming to pulling something stuck out.
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti Год назад
Only reason this happened is bc it was a drop hitch
@gsxrgirl2007
@gsxrgirl2007 Год назад
@@Freddy_Confetti as he clearly explained, it could have happened on a regular hitch too. Don’t fuck around and just do it right, plain and simple.
@Slot_daddy
@Slot_daddy Год назад
@crippledspiderman Towing equipment is not recovery equipment… yes the hitch broke but the balls as he said are not rated for that and if they happen to be rated close , they aren’t meant to be shock loaded.
@charlesbosse9669
@charlesbosse9669 6 месяцев назад
I hope so. I've seen people try to get a heavy truck unstuck by backing up and trying to get a bit of a running start,I've never thought this is a good method. It's very dangerous and ineffective. Something is bound to break by doing it this way. I think it's a foolish way of doing things. Tge pulling vehicle needs to pull forward until the tow strap is tight,and then both vehicles give the goose. I've had to do this many times,and it generally will work all the time. But a running start to snatch it out of there us never a good idea. I know of a guy using a climbing rope to do this,when they tie the lnots,they put a big stick in there so the knots can be untied when finished. Well it didn't work,the rope broke and the stick went flying through the air and hit this poor guy in the head and killed him,I'm afraid. I didn't know him,I just know the story. This video is great info. I'm glad I seen it. God bless you all,and be very careful when doing these things. I've never heard of a hitch breaking like this one did, it's very scary.
@jtmachete
@jtmachete 5 месяцев назад
I've pulled and been pulled out dozens, if not hundreds of times with a ball hitch. NO MORE! Thanks for this wake up call
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 5 месяцев назад
Static strap is the bigger factor. In this case the drop hitch broke because leverage but in any case never recover vehicles with static straps. Use kinetic ropes because they stretch and absorb shock
@LucrativeLarry
@LucrativeLarry 4 месяца назад
Never used you’re brain till today huh
@jtmachete
@jtmachete 4 месяца назад
@@LucrativeLarry troll
@jackk8093
@jackk8093 3 месяца назад
@@LucrativeLarrywe are still waiting for you to discover you have a brain to use.
@kc3baccend
@kc3baccend 3 месяца назад
@@LucrativeLarry you ride bikes little guy
@near--zero
@near--zero 4 месяца назад
I don't do recoveries, I don't even have a truck nor do I know how this ended up in my youtube queue, but I learned something valuable and will pass it on to others, thank you sir.
@jadr5989
@jadr5989 2 года назад
This is a great video. Years ago I was almost killed in the same way. Wasn't into offroading, knew nothing about recovery. Someone stopped to pull us out (I was riding with friends), he seemed confident in what he was doing, so we let him proceed. I stood off to the side and away from the vehicles where I felt would be safe. He tied a 2'' strap with metal hook on the end, around his hitch somehow I think, not sure. He hammered on the gas, I heard a loud bang and for some reason I moved my head about 6" left as a reaction. The hook and rope shot straight at me, passed by right where my head was, continued another 10', came back, wrapped around my head and pulled tight across my eyes, faster than I could fall to the ground. Other than rope burns across my eyelids I ended up ok. But if the hook hit my head I would have been dead. This video should be part of standard driver's education to get a driver's license.
@ultrazep
@ultrazep 2 года назад
glad you survived, that is very scary
@ericmcdaniel4029
@ericmcdaniel4029 2 года назад
Holy crap. That’s like final destination shit
@b0wen11
@b0wen11 2 года назад
Can someone tell @Matt's Offroad Recovery this info, they keep using tow balls. just look at this vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xXrd4BuZeEQ.html
@Cager-wv3uk
@Cager-wv3uk 2 года назад
Glad your alright wow
@richardmccann4815
@richardmccann4815 2 года назад
You certainly came far closer than most could imagine. If there was ever a proof of divine intervention, your head movement was such.
@bearswartz2907
@bearswartz2907 Год назад
This is great info! One thing I would add, from my days of rescue training as a firefighter. ALWAYS put a jacket, blanket, or other soft, heavy fabric over the chain or strap. This should be placed a third of the distance behind the tow vehicle. If the strap or chain breaks, it will wrap around the jacket, which acts as a brake, quickly stopping it from sailing through the air. I've broken a few chains, and this works wonders to stop the chain. We used to use our bunker gear coats, but even a sleeping bag or big tarp folded up will work.
@madmagyver9981
@madmagyver9981 Год назад
Never use a chain.
@grundyb
@grundyb Год назад
Yes! I was a volunteer firefighter and all of the firefighters instructed us to hang our heavy jackets over the cable before putting tension on it. Also we were instructed to stay more than 20 feet away from the cable.
@PeuSHINIGA
@PeuSHINIGA Год назад
Here we just use to open the hood to minimize the damage of a strap/cable rupture, a few accidents like this already happened here.
@Dan-yk6sy
@Dan-yk6sy Год назад
@@madmagyver9981 For sure, unless you bought it yourself and know the rating, but even then I'd take straps over a chain any day. I guarantee 99.9% of people who have a chain in their truck or around the barn have no idea what its working load is.
@madmagyver9981
@madmagyver9981 Год назад
@@Dan-yk6sy that's why I specifically said a 6 inch dozer strap. It's strong enough for 2 80,000lb machines to tug on and not break it so light trucks (even 10,000 lb ones) can't come close to breaking the strap. It's like a piece of 6 inch diameter ship rope. Unbreakable by light trucks
@Dane3804
@Dane3804 2 года назад
Ryans father Chris is a friend of mine. Thank you for making this video, hopefully it can save lives in the future. R.I.P. Ryan and my sincere condolences to all in the Woods family.
@mamacat63
@mamacat63 2 года назад
Please extend my deepest condolences to the Woods family. I always hate to hear about accidents like this 💔😪
@Dane3804
@Dane3804 2 года назад
@@mamacat63 I will, I'm sure it will mean a lot to them and thank you!
@mamacat63
@mamacat63 2 года назад
@@Dane3804 I neglected to extend my deepest condolences to you, too. Your friend died suddenly and I know you miss him 😔 💔
@Dane3804
@Dane3804 2 года назад
@@mamacat63 Thank you! but to be honest I never met Ryan. It's most definitely a tragic loss to his family and my thoughts and prayers are with and for them.
@laurieclark2456
@laurieclark2456 2 года назад
I shared. My boys who tow allot. When friends in trouble and commercial. Good time to post as all those stuck boats in Fla. eeeeks. Trucks too. And car water log messes. Storm Ian.
@renenowicki
@renenowicki 8 месяцев назад
My daughter’s boyfriend goes off roading. Gifted him a kinetic recovery rope with soft shackles. Peace of mind. Thank you for this video. A lot of safety and awareness has come from his sacrifice. I wish the family comfort.
@Steven-gv1ke
@Steven-gv1ke 5 месяцев назад
A soft shackle will still fly through a windshield. There is a video of a guy in a jeep who had that happen to him. They are just "less deadly".
@quantumtechcrypto7080
@quantumtechcrypto7080 5 месяцев назад
Less deadly is better than deadly in my book and with that awareness brings adaptability
@kevins971
@kevins971 5 месяцев назад
@@quantumtechcrypto7080”less deadly is better than deadly” sooo..? Deadly is better than deadly? Les deadly is still deadly, it’s in the name.
@greywolf2809
@greywolf2809 5 месяцев назад
Your a good parent.
@buffalowt
@buffalowt 5 месяцев назад
@@kevins971 You have to do recovery somehow, and a soft shackle with a kinetic recovery rope poses significantly less risk than a chain on a tow hitch.
@dferris44
@dferris44 Год назад
As a retired wrecker driver who specialized in class 8 recoveries I think this is one of the best video's I seen on this subject. Only one thing I can think to add is the drop ball mount will increase torque load on the hitch (like a cheater bar on a ratchet) which is why they have gusset plates I have seen people twist and break a hitch just by slamming on the brakes with a drop mount and moderate load on trailer.
@some-replies
@some-replies Год назад
I've always hooked around the actual receiver, that any better?
@dferris44
@dferris44 Год назад
@@some-replies The receiver is better than hooking on the bumper it's surprising how weak the factory bumper mounts can be. For hard pulls I prefer to go to a frame crossmember strongest place to hook on to.
@bodesmcbodeson686
@bodesmcbodeson686 Год назад
Outstanding note.
@TViper2369
@TViper2369 Год назад
One thing that wasn't mentioned, and probably the most important in related to this, static straps and chains are not meant to be snatched on.
@chuckfinley4757
@chuckfinley4757 Год назад
*videos, not video's.
@r-dizzlefoshizzle7629
@r-dizzlefoshizzle7629 Год назад
My coworker was his sister, she came in when it happened because she didn’t know where to go. So sorry for her family, this was posted all over Facebook and our towns groups, and a lot of people were so horrible in the comments. I hope they heal well, and please be nice everyone, he can’t read your comments but his family still can
@harrybarnes3539
@harrybarnes3539 Год назад
People generally are horrible until they are found in real life
@TheLittlered1961
@TheLittlered1961 Год назад
People can be mean and stupid. I do not know why they would pick such an occasion to be this way. May karma catch up to them.
@gorillaau
@gorillaau Год назад
​@@TheLittlered1961 The keyboard insulates them from physical retaliation. The trolls or unthinking armchair recovery experts will probably never see the person who they are attacking, or their family. This makes it easier to sling crap at the situation without them thinking it through, and still feel like they have made a difference. Condolences to the family of the departed, (I think it was Ryan) who passed away too young
@kw2519
@kw2519 Год назад
I’m so sorry for her and what she had to experience. That must have been incredibly traumatic. I also feel horrible for the guy just trying to help….
@Platinum1812
@Platinum1812 Год назад
Sadly incidents like this attract the trolls and narcissists and 12 year old bullies that are doing nothing good in their lives but know they should be. God be with the family.
@markstephens5120
@markstephens5120 Год назад
I'm 61 and have been pulling stuck vehicles out this way all of my life, never again! My condolences to Ryan's family, may god be with you in your healing process and thank you for allowing this story to be told 🙏.
@KNR90
@KNR90 Год назад
You can but with static recovery, not horizontal. You can also shackle and hook from a rear tow bar to your front tow hooks to pull backwards
@juanshaftpatel7488
@juanshaftpatel7488 5 месяцев назад
wow you are a danger
@johnhopkins4920
@johnhopkins4920 5 месяцев назад
God was on his front number plate (“god & guns”). Is this stupid accident proof there is no god? Or is there is - why did his god have him killed?
@FalconMidget
@FalconMidget 5 месяцев назад
Which god ?
@chrisgeddes26
@chrisgeddes26 6 месяцев назад
I taught wheeled (and some track) recovery for the U.S. Army for 7 years. Thank you for putting this out. This info should prevent some serious injuries or worse. Thank you for the great info!
@steve6548
@steve6548 5 месяцев назад
Hotel 8 guy here! Recovered many vehicles! No injuries to me or anyone else from hooking up and recovering vehicles. I had good training!
@JoshBryan
@JoshBryan 4 месяца назад
My first duty station was with a heavy divisional Cav unit - so tanks, brads, and helicopters all in one unit. The M1 tank recovery vehicle, the M88, is how we towed the broken Abram’s. This is where I learned about vehicle recovery and what NOT to do.
@chrisgeddes26
@chrisgeddes26 4 месяца назад
@@JoshBryan I TAUGHT that course at Camp Roberts, until Idaho RTS-M got the gig cause California had no tanks left. I put the last 5 M1A1's on the lowboy. Sad day. I was not overly impressed wIth the improvements of the M88A2 over the A1. Although it was heavy enough that you didn't need TWO of them to tow/holdback the M1. Had the CHP ask us to stop training as the dust was obscuring highway 101, once. Good times.
@JoshBryan
@JoshBryan 4 месяца назад
@@chrisgeddes26 that's awesome! I remember one of our E7s talking about the dangers of towing very vividly. This was 4-7CAV out of camp Garry Owen in Korea.
@david-468
@david-468 2 месяца назад
K military means nothing just means you were a sheep to politicians lol doesn’t prove you’re know what your doing or even deserve an ounce of respect
@KillerBlackbird
@KillerBlackbird 2 года назад
After watching this I’m definitely going to upgrade my shackles and receiver mount. The gentleman that unfortunately passed as a result of this is probably saving more lives than he would’ve ever imagined by using this as an educational example.
@adventureguy4119
@adventureguy4119 2 года назад
@Tommy Ealey he’s now another ghost being confused for big foot. No hope his soul is in Heaven
@grendeldog01ify
@grendeldog01ify 2 года назад
I’m most definitely switching from chains to soft straps, and I’m gonna take a damn hard look at all my attachment points. That’s scary shit.
@NikkiTheOtter
@NikkiTheOtter 2 года назад
I dont use my hitch for recovery at all. I have both a front and rear class 4 reciever, and I'll shove the strap in the reciever and pin it with the 5/8 pin. I will never use a hitch to pull anything except a trailer.
@gearhead9115
@gearhead9115 2 года назад
@Tommy Ealey Well if the hitch pin fails all you have coming At you is The strap So I would be with the other guy that you are questioning about the 5/8 pin the 5/8 pin I would much rather trust that over the 2" ball pulling on a receiver ball is stupid unless it's just a simple Little tug like out of sand or something not badly stuck in mud like this guy in the video appeared to be.
@NikkiTheOtter
@NikkiTheOtter 2 года назад
@Tommy Ealey I trust the bare minimum number of failure points with the bare minimum amount of metal that will be flying if something breaks.
@tlgomaha
@tlgomaha Год назад
This is the content RU-vid needs! No music, not overly dramatized, just straight to the point with the facts to back it up. Thank you for the informative video, I’ll be forwarding this to my friends and encouraging them to upgrade their recovery gear. RIP Ryan, if there is a way we can help the family by either donation to them or a charity in Ryan’s name please let us know.
@Michael-lx7px
@Michael-lx7px Год назад
No adds as well!
@raypelletier9580
@raypelletier9580 Год назад
I have used my trailer ball many times to pull stuck vehicles. I honestly believed it was stronger than any straps i use. After watching this video i will neverr do this again. Thanks for this very informative and potentiality life saving video.
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@Michael-lx7px No adds because he never mentioned specific brand names.😉🤣
@seanworkman431
@seanworkman431 Год назад
@@iffykidmn8170 yes he did, it wasn't a sponsored video
@iffykidmn8170
@iffykidmn8170 Год назад
@@seanworkman431 thats my point, the video itself was not sponsored but how much was paid for mentioning specific brands?
@roro5150
@roro5150 2 года назад
Sir, your PSA is a must-watch for anyone venturing offroad or having the awareness to prevent an accident. You are savings lives.
@Shoorit
@Shoorit 5 месяцев назад
I didn’t read the title properly and when you said “it was fatal” it caught me off guard. How incredibly sad, I bet the guy helping was devastated too even though he was trying to help.
@ArmedAndIndigenous
@ArmedAndIndigenous 5 месяцев назад
It's always some idiot that doesn't think first that gets others hurt
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 5 месяцев назад
@@ArmedAndIndigenous The victim was there too mate, he could of halted the operation if he knew what he was looking at. The fact is it was two guys who didn't understand the risk and an awful accident..
@ArmedAndIndigenous
@ArmedAndIndigenous 5 месяцев назад
@@kingcosworth2643 both idiots for not knowing
@kingcosworth2643
@kingcosworth2643 5 месяцев назад
@@ArmedAndIndigenous I'm sure there is stuff you don't know, what's the force type and amplitude difference between using a dropdown hitch or an axial hitch in this application?
@1929modelagirl
@1929modelagirl 5 месяцев назад
​@ArmedAndIndigenous I presume you knew? Impressive And your greater um, knowledge has given you the right to judge. Put your foil hat back on now
@proffitt72
@proffitt72 2 года назад
I really needed to see this video. I have been recovering stuck vehicles in an unsafe manner for probably 34 years. I have seen chains, tow ropes, and bumpers fail. Still, I wouldn't have thought about the receiver failure. Sobering video, to say the least. Thank you for the video. Prayers to the family and friends.
@DuelistMandroid
@DuelistMandroid Год назад
Sitting here reflecting on the danger I've placed myself in over the years also!!
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 Год назад
Are you dead yet. No, ok. Hillbillies have been pulling stuff out for decades.
@jinglemyberries866
@jinglemyberries866 Год назад
@@DuelistMandroid Just thinking about it sends shivers down my spine.
@freerangecitizen
@freerangecitizen Год назад
For sure, I’m feeling like a dumbass. In the moment when your trying to be helpful, and you have chains, and straps, and a capable rig… it’s natural to chip in and help. I haven’t put much thought in to the load bearing capabilities of a hitch when pulling someone out. I might have the hitch of the 550 in the Tacoma or vice versa. Will pay attention from here out.
@timesthree5757
@timesthree5757 Год назад
@@jinglemyberries866 are we gonna be weak? Our ancestors did way more dangerous stuff and built a powerful country. No risk taking anymore I guess. My grandfather fought in WW2. He took potshots at a Japanese Arty positions to get them to fire their cannons so that the US Navy can blow it up. My great uncle was a nuclear disposal specialist with no formal training. People back then didn't worry about dying cause they knew they would kickoff someday. I risk my life hauling 18 tons in and 89 f250 cause the rancher needed hey for the winter or their cows would die. Our civilization is doomed if we don't start taking chances again.
@billdevaul3038
@billdevaul3038 Год назад
I’ve been in the automotive towing and recovery business for 30 years, I’m saving this video for all my guys to watch, especially my greenhorns!! Thank you for making this you undoubtedly are saving lives!
@will.green.
@will.green. 6 месяцев назад
greenhorns are a liability. get your guys hard
@rediron44
@rediron44 2 года назад
Good info. As a Union Ironworkers of over 30 years and a Certified Rigger, I was happy to see you point out the 5-1 safety rating on the shackle. I don't know how many times I've seen guys claim the soft shackles are "stronger" because they don't understand steel shackles are rated that way. Well educated video
@sucha603boy
@sucha603boy 2 года назад
When I was in the navy I saw a shipyard crane with a load that was rigged wrong and it snapped and crashed down to the dry dock, luckily nobody was hurt but rigging properly is no joke.
@mrmotofy
@mrmotofy 2 года назад
The problem isn't necessarily with the equipment it tends to be the way products are labeled. Some are break, some are just a weight rating. So people frequently don't know/understand which is what
@sucha603boy
@sucha603boy 2 года назад
@@mrmotofy I have also seen loading straps snap because someone didn’t use a spreader bar
@javaman2883
@javaman2883 2 года назад
@@mrmotofy The towing gear that people pick up at Walmart, Home Depot, UHaul, RV center for the most part will not be designed with a great deal of safety factor. Those general retailers want cheap items to sell to public at low prices. The uninformed customer will very often choose the $12 "get-er-done" item over it's $30 better designed more purpose fitting alternative.
@dammityoutube
@dammityoutube 2 года назад
In most cases I will agree with you. The things that I am annoyed he didn't go over are shock load, and the difference between dead pulling and kinetic pulling. Shock load's where the soft shackles and kinetic ropes excel at and what they are made for, and the only place that they are more than likely stronger than a steel shackle. Chain's and shackle's are very strong under tension, however they cannot take shock load's very well. You may get a few snaps out of them before they break, and when they do break, it is catastrophic.
@SonOfNone
@SonOfNone Год назад
I just bought my first truck, which is off-road ready. I would have never guessed recovering with a tow-ball was unsafe. Glad to have watched this. Deepest condolences to the family and friends.
@Yoda19611
@Yoda19611 2 года назад
Great video and I would like to thank Mrs. Woods for allowing the story to be told so others can learn from this tragedy. My goes out the the family.
@oxyfee6486
@oxyfee6486 2 года назад
This happened to me in a Dodge Dart, my friend was towing me to a garage for it to be fixed, when he pulled into the garage parking lot he stretched the cable, my front tires were having trouble rolling over the curb. His hook let go and came flying through the windshield into the passenger seat, I was covered in glass, it was a lesson I will never forget. May his family find peace, and may he Rest In Peace.
@pw5315
@pw5315 2 года назад
How did he die if he was in the car that was pulling you?
@troycurrie7784
@troycurrie7784 2 года назад
Nobody died. Oxyfee was being pulled and the hook flew into his passenger seat...Always read twice so as not to get confused.
@pw5315
@pw5315 2 года назад
@@troycurrie7784 He's telling a story about his friend and ends it with "may his family find peace, and may he rest in peace". I took that mean that his friend died. But now I see he's talking about the poor fella from the video.
@troycurrie7784
@troycurrie7784 2 года назад
@@pw5315 The same adage goes for sending a phone text. Always read twice so as not to send out something confusing...or embarrassing ;-)
@pw5315
@pw5315 2 года назад
@@troycurrie7784 Lol, you're not wrong there, but I don't accept the blame for this one. That comment was written very poorly and it was easy to misunderstand.
@greghollis3607
@greghollis3607 Год назад
I am one of those people who didn't not realize how dangerous this could have been over the years, Thank you Sooooo much for taking the time to educate those of us who didn't know.. God bless you 🙏
@nirvfan81
@nirvfan81 Год назад
Wow. I’m not a truck person but still. I’ve seen people pull on those ball hitches like that without giving it a second thought. I’m definitely more aware now regarding things like this, so thank you for this valuable information!
@PavementOptional
@PavementOptional 2 года назад
Great video but nobody has talked about what the actual load ratings for the receiver hitch (vehicle side) are. You could have the best recovery gear available and not have anything strong enough to mount it to.
@leewelbanks6366
@leewelbanks6366 2 года назад
Yeah, nobody is talking about the rating of the reciever hitch on the vehicle, I have actually seen a a$$hat ripe his complete hitch out from under his pretty 4x4 truck loaded with sand trying to remove a tree stump, was actually pretty funny, as he was one of those know it all's.
@Fordgroup00
@Fordgroup00 2 года назад
That’s because you don’t use the stinger/ball
@PavementOptional
@PavementOptional 2 года назад
@@Fordgroup00 I'm talking vehicle side, you get a 20k rope and a 20k recovery hitch that doesn't make your 6k vehicle side reciever hitch 20k rated. D ring mounts on most bumpers are only welded to plate steel with no real reinforced behind them and are not really rated for pulling on. All the talk about proper recovery equipment is great information but what its attached to on the vehicle needs to be addressed too.
@Nunya9876
@Nunya9876 2 года назад
@@PavementOptional would that be frame to connect directly to, on both vehicles??
@JaysonFlint
@JaysonFlint 2 года назад
I don’t do recovery, but at least now I know what not to do, it was worth my 19 minutes. Thanks to you and the woman who requested you share this.
@frankhage1734
@frankhage1734 2 года назад
I just want you to know these kind of videos actually make a difference. My recovery methods have evolved from using chains and tow straps on the cheap tow ball to having the right equipment for the job. I'm in Colorado and usually have to "self rescue" in deep snow. I now have a winch, snatch block and tree savers along with chains for all 4 wheels. In town, It's easy to pull out other vehicles stuck in the snow using simple traction forces. I've mainly learned that yanking on a tow strap is reckless.
@chickensfloat7427
@chickensfloat7427 2 года назад
Wreckfull
@phoenixarizona8441
@phoenixarizona8441 2 года назад
We don't use chains much either unless it's just towing one of the quads our buggies back home off our personal trails but not in situations like this
@dangeary2134
@dangeary2134 2 года назад
About the only time one can reliably use a tow strap that is meant to be yanked on like that is when you are in 6x concrete mixer pulling another 6x concrete mixer out. Those particular straps are designed to stretch by the pulling vehicle. At the maximum stretch the puller can go, the brakes are set, and the mired vehicle is eased out as far as the tensioned strap can pull it. It’s best to stay a long way away from this kind of operation. Any concrete worker or mixer driver knows this, and they will chase off everyone before it starts, at least two times the length of the strap.
@DeathAngelHRA
@DeathAngelHRA 2 года назад
@@phoenixarizona8441 Chains are generally safer than wire rope and straps, as chains don't exert kinetic energy when they fail or come undone.
@jed-henrywitkowski6470
@jed-henrywitkowski6470 2 года назад
@@dangeary2134 When I was a kid, my dad parked his tractor-trailer on an old cement foundation, as it was monsoon season. Well, that thing broke through the foundation and got stuck! A wrecker was called, and as things were being set up, an adult told us, kids, to stay back as if the cables snap we could get decapitated.
@Dr.Gunsmith
@Dr.Gunsmith Год назад
From the UK I have used this method pulling people out and being pulled out, at the time and when your in a rush or having fun things like this literally don’t cross your mind, this man’s death won’t be in vain as him and your video will probably save lives. My condolences to his family. 🙏
@ToyotaNutjob
@ToyotaNutjob Год назад
U have 0 common sense then. All of u airheads in the comments
@Freddy_Confetti
@Freddy_Confetti Год назад
It wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t a drop hitch
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH Год назад
Guys, Here is The True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@chrismueller1734
@chrismueller1734 Год назад
Yes I get a street ball or a straight hitch with a ball on it and I have pulled many many people out with it and I have never ever seen that happen that's that's just a once in a lifetime thing you probably never see it again in your life and it's a Once in a Lifetime thing no bad things towards the guy that was killed I mean that's that's life you know it's going to happen and his family has to deal with it and everybody else does but I don't think anybody should come over RU-vid and spread all of this over RU-vid for one guys bad time I think it should keep to the family I don't think there should be anybody else telling about their incident I think the family should do that not one guy and then spreading it all over the world to RU-vid Just because he thinks he can train somebody no there's a lot of people out there to do it and there's a lot of people that are guilty of doing it I just said I was guilty of doing it but I have never seen that happen there must have been a flaw in that hitch
@DiHandley
@DiHandley 2 года назад
This particularly horrific accident has gone around the world. Many many RU-vidrs have discussed it and what went wrong. Unfortunately there are still people out there that just won’t listen good advice such as yours. Nevertheless you may have saved a life. Australia.
@chadepperson5609
@chadepperson5609 Год назад
Think almost every one of us that watched this video is guilty of pulling something out with a receiver hitch. This is a wake-up call for me on what I need to use next time. Thank you for putting out this content and thank you to the family for allowing you to tell this story. Sadly, this happened but I feel this information will save someone else.
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 Год назад
Seldom anyone in their learning curve in life simply think safety and start out by raising the hood of the vehicle being pulled out. Hopefully this video and discussion impacts that learning curve earlier for those viewing. Each of us has done sketchy stuff in our time with little or no consequence. Stuff like this should be incorporated into a school setting along with the bloody accident movie often presented. Here speed nor drunk driving killed but simple ignorance to at least raise the hood.
@KNR90
@KNR90 Год назад
You can, but don't do a kinetic recovery. Gently pull tight, then pull while they help. A kinetic recovery is never good in deep mud. But someone who just doesn't have traction, you can static pull them just fine. We do it all the time, but never do kinetic recoveries. That's asking for danger
@pokerman9108
@pokerman9108 9 месяцев назад
nope my dad showed be the proper way to pull a vehicles out of the mud etc. rule number 1, never pull from the receiver or ball. This used to be common knowledge. even if it works, you could have a failure later on while pulling you camper or boat... stressing the receiver is not good.
@sebastianwhalin743
@sebastianwhalin743 5 месяцев назад
​@@KNR90Its not meant for that and if you do that even with a static recovery you are putting yourself and others at risk
@KNR90
@KNR90 5 месяцев назад
@@sebastianwhalin743 no more than basically any other attachment point, and it's likely the safest choice of attachment, other than attaching a shackle through the tow receiver
@ken85225
@ken85225 6 месяцев назад
A 1 foot drop hitch....the crow bar leverage the pull had on the 2"x2" square tubing was "over-whelming" .............of course it broke and shot at the other truck.
@Topper-gf8xl
@Topper-gf8xl Год назад
Thanks, you've probably saved someone's life. I've been watching one of the more popular RU-vid recovery companies for a few years, but this is the first time I've seen someone address this subject. Much appreciated.
@crashbandit7270
@crashbandit7270 Год назад
Matt uses recovery ropes instead of a static ropes. If your talking about Matt's off road recovery.
@larrybe2900
@larrybe2900 Год назад
Static lines have their place but not dealing with stuck vehicles. Apart from failure a static line can cause damage to either vehicle. Something one seldom might consider is the invisible suction apart from the conscious weight of the vehicle. Just thinking what it takes to pull a foot out of mud can only translate into a huge restrictive force dealing with a vehicle. Admittedly, aspects of this have come to light for me since watching various recovery videos here on YT. Yet this demonstration shed more light on the basics in a real time environment for me.
@mikehannahs
@mikehannahs 2 года назад
I’m going to play this video at work for a safety meeting, I work for the county road department here in southeast Utah, we are always pulling something out of washes and mud when it rains here, thank you for making this video to inform folks of the danger involved in pulling things out of these situations, RIP to the gentleman who was involved in this and I hope the family is ok 😢
@HHGHEADSHOT
@HHGHEADSHOT 2 года назад
If you are in Utah Id suggest Matts's off-road recovery, Has way more experience than this guy quoting paperwork and tensile strength. Just my personal experiences being a Moab junky.
@mikehannahs
@mikehannahs 2 года назад
Matt is definitely damn good, I understand this video to explaining the tensile strength and breaking points, it makes a lot of sense to me and definitely showed me just how bad this could go, he did a great job explaining this, I did play this video at work and the other 3 mechanics in our shop were mind blown just like I was and agreed doing it using the ball hitch is not good
@mikegillen6009
@mikegillen6009 2 года назад
@@HHGHEADSHOT oh yeah, the insurance fraud guy......
@michaelsantosuosso7284
@michaelsantosuosso7284 2 года назад
@@mikegillen6009 please do tell..never heard this one
@williamburnett5337
@williamburnett5337 2 года назад
@@HHGHEADSHOT you are literally talking shit on a video meant to help people understand the dynamics and engineering involved in the recovery process 🙄 a man lost his life and what are you doing???
@berney55
@berney55 2 года назад
I work on a farm and have to pull equipment out all the time. I admittedly had no idea i was putting myself in so much danger. Definitley changing my pulling gear. Thank you!!
@IdahoRanchGirl
@IdahoRanchGirl Год назад
And I'm on a ranch. Didn't know this. We usually use the winches on the trucks. But have done this too.
@WalterPidgeonsForge
@WalterPidgeonsForge 5 месяцев назад
Probably 35 years ago I pulled out a stuck K30 with my FJ60.. the guy looked at me like I was nuts when I asked him to open his hood, but he did it.. An open hood might have saved Ryan from that hitch. I drove for a recovery company in the Northeast for quite some time.. I have seen cables snap, tow hitches ripped out of the rear of a 4 year old Dodge because of rust and numerous people that try to just drop a recovery strap on a hitch ball.. People are embarrassed and panicking, rushing and ignorant of how the physics can change exponentially.. Take away this one thing..SLOW DOWN! Get a good winch with a fiber rope..and please don’t trust that a Samaritan is going to know the best way.. be strong and carefully consider things. Please.
@XemawthEvo2
@XemawthEvo2 Год назад
As viewer number 526,033 I can honestly say I learned something extremely important today. I would have never questioned the improper method. Your demonstration and explanation were outstanding, and a major wake up. Condolences to the family, and especially to Ryan. Ryan could have been any one of us. The kindness of the Woods family, and the effort by Colorado 4x4 Rescue and Recovery in this video will undoubtedly save lives by shining a light on an incredibly common and dangerous practice.
@bbrcummins1984
@bbrcummins1984 2 года назад
I had this happen to a friend in Florida about 40 years ago, he survived but was never the same, prayers for the man's family and friends 🙏
@anthonyhumbert8787
@anthonyhumbert8787 2 года назад
Back in 2001 I was using a skid loader and 1/2" logging chain to pull an old residential TV antenna tower out of the ground. Well the chain snapped and came flying back and hit me in the left upper chest. It somehow knocked me out with me still pulling back on the drive sticks. My helper had to run and jump into the machine and kill the ignition. I came to a few seconds later. It didn't break the skin and hit right below the collar bone so no broken bones or internal injuries. I had a guardian angel with me that day.
@motobox1232
@motobox1232 2 года назад
Damn sure wasn't 1/2 inch logging chain broken by a skid steer lol
@anthonyhumbert8787
@anthonyhumbert8787 2 года назад
@@motobox1232 yes it was 1/2". JD 280 skid loader taking running starts on 20' of slack. That's about 9k lbs of shock load over and over on an older chain.
@NS-hs6lt
@NS-hs6lt Год назад
Your heart may have stopped for a time then reset itself.
@anthonyroberts3932
@anthonyroberts3932 4 месяца назад
There is no doubt that your video will save many lives. I grew up on a farm and have done this many times. I never thought of all that information you shared with us. You may have even saved my life. Thanks so much
@anthonyl950
@anthonyl950 2 года назад
Condolences to his family and thank you for posting. I can't even begin to count the number of times I've just dropped the loop of the strap over a 2-5/16 ball to pull
@GeorgeToft
@GeorgeToft 2 года назад
You're the first person I've met in 25 years that used the term "design margin" and knew what it meant. Thanks for the video, this was great.
@dusty7264
@dusty7264 2 года назад
Growing up on a a ranch in Arizona we always hooked two straps to the frame. We use bolt type shackles. This is a sad story. Thank you for the information
@clarkanthony538
@clarkanthony538 Год назад
I was pulling a vehicle that had broke down and the strap broke from its hook and flew threw the back windshield breaking it. Sounded like a shotgun going off scared me to death. This is very similar God was with me that day. I'll never forget the velocity that hook had when it came flying back in thru the back window.
@danmaantaya1749
@danmaantaya1749 2 года назад
I had zero recovery equipment knowledge. Now I know a bit more. Thanks for the video and my condolences to the Woods family.
@doreestone4487
@doreestone4487 Год назад
I knew Ryan and his wife. I lived in Kingman and the Woods family was in my church. Ryan worked on my Jeep for me. I moved to Tennessee shortly before Ryan’s accident. It was tragic. Thank you for giving people this important life-saving information.
@ordinarypete
@ordinarypete 6 месяцев назад
Kingman unite!
@johnhopkins4920
@johnhopkins4920 5 месяцев назад
So he must have believed in some god / guy in the sky (why else would one go to church). Isn’t this awful death proof there is no god? Or did he perhaps do something to p1ss of his god? Please share any info you have. Thank you.
@recycledfelines
@recycledfelines 5 месяцев назад
​@@johnhopkins4920 I'm a witch, ex Christian and usually Christians believe that it's in God's plan
@AfkBxndit
@AfkBxndit 5 месяцев назад
@@johnhopkins4920stop being disrespectful
@25439
@25439 5 месяцев назад
@@johnhopkins4920why wud u care, nothing u say will change anything for them ul just sound like an annoying bitch
@rockweeks5697
@rockweeks5697 2 года назад
Excellent video and your presentation was very down to earth and easy to understand for the average offloaded. When I was in a Search and Rescue group in Southern Arizona back in the late seventies and early eighties we regularly trained utilizing all of the info in this video. I commend you for putting this video out but I'm sorry that someone had to lose their life for this info to come to light.
@danoesq2
@danoesq2 5 месяцев назад
Sad story and good education. I haven't had to do recovery, but have studied the hell out of it to avoid something like this including proper recovery points and soft shackles. One of the first things I learned - Never use a tow hitch ball.
@jaylsin4973
@jaylsin4973 Год назад
Thank you , I'm sixty years old and have always been helpful pulling friend and strangers out of ditches which happens alot in Minnesota winters with icy roads. I have heard of ropes and chains snapping but never experienced a failure myself. From now on I'm am going to recover with proper equipment even tho it will cost me extra just for that occasional pull but will be worth every penny to have the piece of mind that I will be doing more good then harm. Your never to old to learn and I appreciate the education your video has provided me. To the woods family my condolences but find comfort in knowing their husband son father or whatever Ryan was to them should find comfort knowing Ryan's tragic accident will save life's thanks to you allowing his story to be shared and for the right young gentleman making the video to tell it. Lots of people die everyday but not all leave a positive ripple in the fabric of time but your loved one has. God bless you and ease your pain.
@QbutNotTheQ
@QbutNotTheQ Год назад
As an ER nurse I have seen this exact tragedy several times. Beware of the giant forces hidden in a stretched rope or chain! Expect that it can snap and kill you and never get yourself in the danger zone on either side. 😢
@jeffa847
@jeffa847 Год назад
Wow - I didn't know it was that common
@OnTheDLum
@OnTheDLum Год назад
ropes tear chains stretch always use a rope if you're towing heavy vehicles chains are all right but they are an extreme hazard
@liamgross7217
@liamgross7217 Год назад
@@OnTheDLum that makes sense. I’ve always just used my tow ball and a snatchem strap. Glad this video found me before I kill someone.
@smokingnothinbutgood7921
@smokingnothinbutgood7921 Год назад
I use cranes everyday at work. I always check the straps, chains etc.... I saw plates of steel that were 10" thick 144 feet long by 72 tall come off on guys that shook the whole shop.
@drewbienewbie03xx81
@drewbienewbie03xx81 Год назад
@@jeffa847 it's not, wife's a nurse at the ER in Uwharrie, massive nationwide known off-roading trail and mudding park. Asked her and after 16 years on the job she has seen this all of 0 times. Q is someone that enjoys seeing likes.
@DependableAutoTruck
@DependableAutoTruck 2 года назад
Would have thought before I started watching all the recovery video's a hitch would take anything that a truck could deliver. I know now its not true wonderful video
@Colorado4x4RescueandRecovery
@Colorado4x4RescueandRecovery 2 года назад
yes, you have to be extremely careful with standard trailer towing hitches! they're not for recovery.
@mxjman
@mxjman 2 года назад
@@Colorado4x4RescueandRecovery I also Never knew this information and the number of times I have used a tow hitch is scary. I will never do that again. Thanks for making this video and know that you have another person out there that will not use a tow hitch.
@EyebrowsMahoney
@EyebrowsMahoney 2 года назад
Yeah I've warned people and seen other people warn people about this danger and we get waved off as safety Nancy's. No. I've just watched this shit happen. No one died in my experience but it didn't make it any less dangerous.
@ChattNCC
@ChattNCC Год назад
This has been incredibly educational. Thank you for sharing and condolences to the family of the gentleman that was killed.
@TobyCostaRica
@TobyCostaRica 2 года назад
I watch a lot of Matt’s off road recovery, way back since he had 15k subscribers, wish he didn’t wing it with his setups, I remember a tri-ball hitch, then a pintle hitch. Not sure if he still uses the tri ball. He’s skilled for sure but the amount of views he gets I wish he would take the time to show people the safest way.
@thisisfun887
@thisisfun887 Год назад
He switched to the hitch link.
@theveefit
@theveefit Год назад
Wow, I had NO idea but glad you made this video to share and keep us safe . My condolences to the mama wife and family ❤️
@johnsouto7879
@johnsouto7879 2 года назад
Thank you for posting this...... this has definately changed my thinking, and thank you to Jen Woods for being willing to have her personal story shared, I hope it brings some comfort to her knowing that a lot of people are being safer than they would have been without this knowledge.
@greatguy4076
@greatguy4076 4 месяца назад
I want to point out that while the Hitchlink has a high load rating, it is only one "link in the chain." A system will always fail at its weakest link, and unfortunately there are other factors that you may not be aware of - cotter pin that fell out of the hitch pin, manufacturing defects in products, undetected corrosion, etc. Also, think about the fact that, by using the Hitchlink, you are adding a 15 lb missile to the end of your recovery strap. The safest way to recover with a pull line is to have positive control over the line when it fails. Simply using a stronger main line, or other components, adds marginal safety. One of the safest methods requires 3 lines; your heavy main line, and two lighter safety lines: 1. The main pull line 2. A line on the stuck vehicle, attached to a secure point on the vehicle, and a loop on the main pull line. This line should have enough slack to allow the recovery vehicle some forward movement when the main line fails. 3. The same as #2, but on the recovery vehicle. This is how I perform recoveries. I also use this method when helping people do things like attempt to pull tree stumps out. I have witnessed main line failures and the secondary lines perform their function. This is in no way meant to insult Mr. King, nor the products he sells. Those products look well made, and would be part of a good recovery setup. But having the right parts only gets you half way to safety; make sure you think things through and keep people out of the "line of fire," and always consider what happens if you have a failure.
@zzoinks
@zzoinks 4 месяца назад
That's so smart and should be mentioned in this video
@chrisburenheide6600
@chrisburenheide6600 2 года назад
I have used my hitch hundreds of times and somehow never thought about about this but I will definitely be upgrading my gear - Thank You
@georgecarousos6735
@georgecarousos6735 2 года назад
Very sad situation for the family....condolences to them. This Super Duty was NOT a candidate for a kinetic energy recovery regardless of the quality of equipment used or recovery points chosen. Because it was sunk in as low as it was, there is suction involved AND the front and rear axles are now plowing against wet soil. Even if the truck weighs 9000 lbs curb weight, the amount of energy involved to pull the truck as it is bulldozing tens of thousands of pound of wet dirt in front of it is huge. Wet sand or mud is over 3000 lbs per cubic yard. There are multiple cubic yards of dirt in front of both axles that you would be pulling against. At a bare minimum, shovels and excavation to move soil away from the front of the truck and from under the truck to break suction should have been considered. Yes, obviously use the best quality equipment available and learn how to connect recovery equipment to the correct recovery points....but it all starts by evaluating the vehicle that is stuck and understanding what forces you are up against. When in doubt call a pro and stand way back because even they don't do everything perfectly.
@fred8945
@fred8945 2 года назад
at the very least, pull it out backwards.
@MrBrucesauls
@MrBrucesauls 2 года назад
Great knowledge shared here. Never would have considered all that weight working against me. Science and George triumph.
@jeffouellette9946
@jeffouellette9946 2 года назад
And see this is exactly what I was thinking if you're going to try to pull something out that's 9,000 lb and you're going to use a vehicle that's $9,000 it doesn't make a difference whether you use a chain a strap or what a lot of times it's still impossible to get a vehicle out and less you use a bigger vehicle. I'm smart enough to realize that those bumpers or where they're welded to the mounts and everything they can still break. From what you see in the picture that there was a good chance that whatever vehicle that someone drove up by using was not going to get that truck out. Just like when you you try to get an 18-wheeler out you use a bigger truck. An 18-wheeler isn't going to get an 18-wheeler unstuck unless not stuck enough.
@nopenope9945
@nopenope9945 Год назад
I did not know this. I'll never do it again. Mostly I've pulled a lot of light stuff that is just barely stuck and a little more skilled driver could have gotten it out but we are amateurs having fun and the rule we follow is just don't go alone. Definitely saved us from potentially deadly situations by going in two jeeps/ 4runners but it makes me think of how many other things we might have done that we didn't know could have hurt us. Thank you for the video. RIP and prayers for his family.
@claytonculbert2107
@claytonculbert2107 5 месяцев назад
I knew not to do it but now i have an video to show the friends that argue about it
@mermaidmama7880
@mermaidmama7880 5 месяцев назад
Thank you Woods family. Your generosity during a this time will save others a similar fate. Wyoming girl here. I've been stuck more times than I can possibly recall. I've sent this to all family members. We are grateful and send healing light . Ryan will be remembered 🌈
@kiethj7
@kiethj7 Год назад
I was riding my bike the other day. It was blissful and peaceful on a trail in the middle of the woods. Suddenly I slip off the side of trail and slam on concrete. It happened so fast. I ended up breaking my elbow. I drove ten miles back with one arm.. The whole ride back made me contemplate how fast things can go wrong. I'm still in shock about it. This story is so sad and a grave reminder how fast things can change. I like to drive unpaved mountain roads in my Xterra so I'm glad I came across this. Deepest condolences to this family. This is so heartbreaking
@xephael3485
@xephael3485 Год назад
My deepest condolences to your bike... Didn't deserve to be slammed on the concrete.
@kiethj7
@kiethj7 Год назад
@@xephael3485 I agree. It's a great bike 😂
@Praise___YaH
@Praise___YaH Год назад
Guys, Here is The True Savior YaH The Heavenly FATHER HIMSELF was Who they Crucified/Pierced for our sins and “HERE IS THE PROOF” From the Ancient Egyptian Semitic: "Yad He Vav He" is what Moshe (Moses) wrote, when Moses asked YaH His Name (Exodus 3) Ancient Egyptian Semitic Direct Translation Yad - "Behold The Hand" He - "Behold the Breath" Vav - "Behold The NAIL"
@TwoGunToast
@TwoGunToast Год назад
A concrete trail through the middle of the woods? Uhhh aren't those trails usually kept as dirt so not to unnecessarily damage wildlife?
@15subarusti59
@15subarusti59 Год назад
I'm guessing you broke your left elbow? Hope you healed up ok
@Psyco913
@Psyco913 2 года назад
One thing you mentioned, but I feel never gets emphasized enough is taking your time with a recovery. Unless the vehicle is in a precarious position on the edge of a cliff or something, there is absolutely no reason to be rushing. If you are going to attempt a kinetic recovery you should do some slow speed test hits just to see how all the equipment and the two vehicles are responding. You may notice something was not set up properly, or the stuck vehicle wants to move in a way you did not expect or something. That's the kind of information you want to learn on a 2,000 lb hit, not 20,000 lbs.
@HickSquatch
@HickSquatch 2 года назад
Great information and presentation. Thirty years ago, chains were about all we had and we had to be cared about how we did things. I swapped chain for a logging skidder cable. One thing we did back then that I think is still applicable: open the hood. It may not totally stop this scenario but it can slow it down enough, and use weights on the strap to dampen that momentum too: the old winch cable tricks. I’ve seen cable break and take a tree down. I remember a few guys who got cut in half by a broken cable. These levels of weight and force are nothing to play with. Everyone be safe out there!! It’s supposed to be fun.
@fridder.
@fridder. Год назад
Wow I had no idea. That's beyond terrifying. Thank you so much for making this video. Countless lives saved by one (relatively) short video. Plus all the people watching and sharing with friends like myself.
@williamyarbrough7946
@williamyarbrough7946 2 года назад
Was at the site of the same type thing happening almost 40 years ago when a 4 inch snatch strap was used with a clevis attached to the hole of a step bumper. Clevis pulled through the metal of the bumper and went into the windshield hitting the driver in the head. He lost vision in one eye and had brain damage but survived.
@libfab1
@libfab1 2 года назад
Great video. A couple of things to point out. Drop hitches like the one you previewed, even with a straight pulling angle, have a boat load of leverage that's created. Referring to the pic of the hitch that failed, it came apart at the bottom. Lots of leverage, that's the primary reason it failed. Second, Chinese steel. That stuff is crap. When the importers started bringing China steel over in the mid and late 90's you almost had to relearn how to weld. There's pockets in it, it's not uniform, it's complete crap. Quarter inch wall tube steel should not have sheered like that. Bend yes, sheer no. The stress cracks are the dead give away.
@ronfox5519
@ronfox5519 2 года назад
I will agree with you that that is a strange looking break. Would have expected to see way more stretch/distortion in that tube. This was a sharp break. Do you know what material is normally used for these reciever tubes?
@leonardtrump9155
@leonardtrump9155 2 года назад
I second what he says about the crap steel, I was a machinist back in the 80s and when they started importation of crap steel ,everyone was buying it because of the cost of it,it put a lot of the US steel mills outa business because they could ship it over from China on a boat for half of what it cost to produce it here , we would be machining a part and hit a chunk of real metal or some foreign product in there a bust your tooling,what a nightmare it became for machinist I could imagine welding is the same
@libfab1
@libfab1 2 года назад
I can't find an industry standard as far as the type of materiel used for receiver hitches. I've seen several that were bent, but never have seen one with a catastrophic failure like that one.
@ronfox5519
@ronfox5519 2 года назад
@@libfab1 Agreed. Could this be the result of not doing stress relief after fab? If it were made of crs, would there be a need for stress relief? I dont know these things well enough to say one way or the other. My 2 penny guess is that its junk steel, the welding created a hard spot, no stress relief was done, and the hitch saw enough heavy use for fatigue to begin. The side to side swaying of a heavy trailer with 10" of leverage over a period of years could have got that crack started.
@libfab1
@libfab1 2 года назад
@@ronfox5519 Ya, all of the above..
@dougbeer2697
@dougbeer2697 Год назад
I am actually going to send this to a friend that loves helping people. I know he has some of this gear but this was such a great informational video even though it had to stem from a tragic accident. I know I am smarter because of it and will remember this if I am ever in this kind of situation. That being said, I worked with a female friend at a toy store and we were storing our swing sets as we were strapping them in with the bungee cords she suddenly fell to the ground in extreme pain and we didn't understand because nothing happened to her as far as we had seen. The reason I am telling this is to show how fast something can go wrong when the tension gets to great. What we didn't see was the bungee cord breaking and catching her right across the nipple. It was so fast there was no time to react. Stay safe in all you do and thank you for sharing this.
@will.green.
@will.green. 6 месяцев назад
what kind of toy store with swings and nipple torture are you working in?
@Sashazur
@Sashazur 5 месяцев назад
I almost injured my eye or worse messing with bungee cords. Always wear eye protection when connecting or disconnecting them!
@stonecoldcustoms
@stonecoldcustoms 5 месяцев назад
Great video - wish there was some way to spread this info wider and further. As someone who worked in heavy duty recovery and have seen my share of bad things happen - I cringe everytime I see someone trying to pull someone out like this. You have to ask what will happen when something snaps or breaks no matter what equipment you're using. This happens too often.
@igutz5160
@igutz5160 2 года назад
When i first got into off roading a few years ago I remember looking for recovery gear, im extremely thankful that i decided not to cheap out and i have the exact same gear you mentioned, i have the factor 55 hitchlink, bubba soft shackles, and a bubba kinetic rope, some of the friends i off road with still use their tow hitch and static tow rope for snatch recoveries and has failed a couple times luckily with no damage to anyone or any vehicle, but they have been extremely lucky, im going to send them this video to hopefully make them see how important proper recovery gear is
@skyking4501
@skyking4501 Год назад
Awesome!! The normal bubba, like me and obviously a large majority of other men had and have no clue about this danger. For us, “that iron hitch will never break”, that thinking is definitely fatal. My condolences to Mrs. Wood, for the loss of her husband. Thank you to her and you sir, for this enlightenment. It is a gift of life for us all.
@johnhopkins4920
@johnhopkins4920 5 месяцев назад
If you have a front license plate with “god and guns” on it (like this dead due), you’re no normal bubba. May he rest in peace, but he was not “normal” for sure.
@nightshift600RR
@nightshift600RR Год назад
Thank you. I have always considered myself safer than your average guy with a truck & simple but effective tow gear, but I had not considered this crucial factor. It's entirely possible that at least massive unexpected damage has been prevented in my future. Thanks again.
@s2sailingfree
@s2sailingfree 5 месяцев назад
HOLY S#:¥! I have used a hitch draw bar to extract in the past. NEVER AGAIN. I’ve shared this video with my family and friends as well. Thank you. Condolences to Mrs. Woods.
@FishingtheThinBlueLine
@FishingtheThinBlueLine 2 года назад
Excellent video! This is a great educational video! Condolences to the Woods family.
@johnmcraven3598
@johnmcraven3598 2 года назад
Even though the rating on your dropped hitch's ball was one of the highest, the receiver itself may have been one of the weakest. Because that drop acts as a lever, the pull at the ball is converted to a rotating motion where that vertical 'lever' is welded to the receiver tube. And that motion puts almost all the forces on the very bottom edge of the weld, certainly not on the entire weld. So it concentrates the forces there, when that fails the force continues to be concentrated at the bottom of the remaining attachment by the twist, until it unzips all the way up. Never had to get the whole weld to fail, just a small portion of it at a time. The smaller receiver you showed before that might actually be stronger (not counting the ball itself) because it doesn't have the drop to act as a lever, it's doing more of a straight pull. And the tongue(?) portion that the ball bolts to is welded to the receiver tube at an angle, so it's spreading the pull out more into the whole weld. NOT saying you'd be better off using that receiver ball vs. the dropped one, just that the dropped one was probably the worst one of all the ones you showed. Despite the higher rating on the ball itself.
@POWER-LINKS
@POWER-LINKS 2 года назад
Exactly. HUGE lever effect.
@Milkmans_Son
@Milkmans_Son 2 года назад
I know nothing about this so just spitballing here, but it seems to me that the lowest rated piece of equipment is just one variable in a situation with too many variables for the math to work reliably. So it seems to me it would be a lot safer to focus less on specs or ratings and more on the possible failure modes and the risks associated with each. If both stingers are going to fail, which one ends up in the engine bay and which one ends up in the cab.
@16B9
@16B9 2 года назад
@@Milkmans_Son Math doesn't lie.
@Milkmans_Son
@Milkmans_Son 2 года назад
@@16B9 Profound statement by a man of few words, but the math isn't the problem. The problem is where you get the numbers. What are you going to do, weigh the mud?
@joshuabaker5712
@joshuabaker5712 2 года назад
@@Milkmans_Son what? We already know how much a cubic yard of mud weighs, what the working load limit is on all actual rigging equipment, and vehicle weight. The failure point is what ever has the lowest WLL. It is that simple. This is all a math problem. I'd advise you to go get some schooling in rigging before trying to say more on the matter.
@brettnipps7205
@brettnipps7205 2 года назад
Great video, many folks dont know/understand the difference between a static line I.E. winching and a dynamic line (yanking). Also the review of attach point failure is very relevant. Shame that a life was lost over this.
@aaronburratwood.6957
@aaronburratwood.6957 5 месяцев назад
A very informative video. I’m so sorry this man or anyone lost their lives doing recovery. I just never realized how catastrophic this could be. Rest in Peace to this man that died, I hope it never happens again to anyone else. Please be careful folks.
@kbcr500
@kbcr500 Год назад
I, really, just want to say thanks for the insight and for taking the time to do the research. It's a tragic loss, there are no words, condolences to the family.
@Scrambler85
@Scrambler85 2 года назад
Something happened years ago in the area where I live. The ball passed completely through the skull of a 15 year old girl riding passenger in the stuck truck. When I do a recovery I always have the stuck vehicle to raise their hood.
@Jbt49
@Jbt49 2 года назад
That such a good and simple idea i never would have thought of that. I’ve heard that putting a blanket over the line helps
@Brickbossman
@Brickbossman 2 года назад
Yeah because that thin hood would stop anything
@servicetrucker5564
@servicetrucker5564 2 года назад
@@Brickbossman You beat me to it
@530eman
@530eman Год назад
Thank you for taking the time to share this information and for being respectful to this gentleman and his family ❤️💔❤️
@joshuaanothereraseddad
@joshuaanothereraseddad 5 месяцев назад
What a tragedy. My dad taught me to pull from the frame if I get stuck. And if I can't get to the frame call a professional.
@importmike
@importmike Год назад
Thank you for posting this. Condolences to the Woods family. Rest In Peace Ryan from a fellow off-roader.
@clanrubicon
@clanrubicon 2 года назад
Good video. Back before the days of RU-vid and the internet, off-road magazines were constantly educating the community about the dangers of improper recovery gear, especially tow hitches and unsafe practices. Another thing we need to be aware of is danger zones. Where not to be in case of equipment failure. In the name of safety, not criticism, as a trained crane operator, I’d like to point out that it’s not safe to stand under a hanging load. Thank you for your efforts to prevent any future tragedies. It’s good to have fun on the trail and during recoveries. But we cannot afford to become complacent. This video is a needed reminder of that for us all
@robertthanepohn7559
@robertthanepohn7559 2 года назад
Yep, NEVER go under suspended loads! I won’t even walk under a cranes lifted boom in the lay down yards at work, I’ve even seen safety people standing around talking below the several thousand pound block and hook of parked cranes and told them to move.
@crawlfish8134
@crawlfish8134 2 года назад
you definitely taught me something, thank you for making this video. My condolences to the Woods family.
@jasonswearingin1009
@jasonswearingin1009 5 месяцев назад
Makes me think of Snap Back from mooring lines at Naval Stations/Bases. We went through lots of training to know the signs of a mooring line under intense stress. We have what's called a tattle tail (short thinner length of nylon cord usually 6Ft or 2 meters attached to the central part of the mooring line between the pier and the moored vessel). Drooping tattle tale all is good taught tattle tale GTFA (GET THE FECK AWAY AND WARN OTHERS TO DO THE SAME). Also smoking mooring line (mooring line under intense stress will have the appearance of "smoking" as all absorbed moisture will be released in a vapor) when you see this a catastrophic mooring line failure is imminent. I did witness a handful of these at Norfolk Naval Station Va. fortunately training and vigilant situational awareness prevented injury and loss of life in all cases I witnessed. There was significant to severe damage to equipment on the pier. I wouldn't believe a 3 inch mooring line could cause so much damage to a large diesel generator to the point that it was hauled off in pieces. We were still finding small pieces up to 2 years after that particular event on and around the pier.
@martinslabber8313
@martinslabber8313 2 года назад
Great advice and video thank you. Just one thing to add. In any mud or running water recovery where the vehicle has been stuck for a while, first try and free the axles from the mud by lifting the vehicle. Axles and wheels become ankers in mud and even sand with running water, like in a riverbed. This multiplies the stuck force by a significant margin.
@jeffreymcdonald8267
@jeffreymcdonald8267 2 года назад
Good advice. But how ?
@NikkiTheOtter
@NikkiTheOtter 2 года назад
@@jeffreymcdonald8267 airbag jack. Typically exhaust-jacks, but using a compressor to fill it would be safer
@jeffreymcdonald8267
@jeffreymcdonald8267 2 года назад
@@NikkiTheOtter ok. Right on
@schwazman1
@schwazman1 Год назад
@@jeffreymcdonald8267 another way is to redirect the pull to break the suction. For example, pulling at a 45° angle to the stuck vehicle, so you can break the suction. Then pull the way you need to, to extricate the vehicle. Once the suction is broke, it's a lot easier to yank them out.
@mikestevens8046
@mikestevens8046 Год назад
Great video and thanks for sharing. You might want to take a second look at the pintle hook specs though. You mentioned that the bolts would be the weak point leading to failure when actually 1/2 grade 8 bolts can take about 37,500 pounds each so that times 4 is around the 150,000 range.
@mizzclaireelizabeth
@mizzclaireelizabeth Год назад
100% agreed. it needs to be said he said its safe to use a chain. You never use a chain ever ever ever. chains have killed soo many people. I have personally seen them snap twice in my life.
@yevgeny79
@yevgeny79 5 месяцев назад
This, unfortunately, happens too often. Not fatal every time, but the lack of basic recovery technique still shocks me. I wheeled a jeep for 20+ years and been part of many recoveries. Rule #1 - use a recovery strap, NOT a tow strap. Rule #2 - never be in line of fire if/when that strap or hitch fail, this is hard to achieve for the driver of the recovery vehicle. Rule #3 - if in doubt, call a pro.
@markrussell7977
@markrussell7977 2 года назад
These are the videos people need. I'll admit I've learned a lot from this myself, even knowing all the ratings and misconceptions about hitch and drawbar capabilities. I'll be buying all new gear before assisting anyone else from here on out
@swcheshier61
@swcheshier61 2 года назад
Thank you very much for the info. So sorry for this families loss. I am a rope rescue tech among other things. Have been a trail guide for an off road park for several years. I was getting ready to mention the receiver pin but you covered it too. 👍🏼 Thank you for your service.
@brandonmitchell8846
@brandonmitchell8846 2 года назад
Thank you for doing this bro!!! I live in Costa Rica. The roads are bad and people get stuck all the time. I pull with a winch I will definitely get those ropes and products you speak of. If you could post more how to tow videos I would be hyped. Thank you again!!
@lazerrred
@lazerrred 2 года назад
Watch some of “Matt’s off-road recovery” UT vids. He’s done several tow / recovery gear vids.
@pluggedfinn-bj3hn
@pluggedfinn-bj3hn 5 месяцев назад
I know this is serious video but I can't be the only one who noticed that he said "probably over 15min at this point" the moment the video hit 15min. Thanks for your PSA, I'm not into offroading myself, more just into safety of different hobbies/fields. And never know, I might end up stuck in a snowbank.
@user-wj9hj7sf9y
@user-wj9hj7sf9y 2 года назад
Hi Justin, Firstly, my deepest condolences to the Woods family for their loss of their loved one and a fellow off road enthusiast. This is a tragic accident and thank you to Mrs. Woods for sharing this painful story with us to help educate, remind, and prevent others from experiencing a similar tragedy. Secondly, thank you for making this video. I found it very informative, educational and helpful.
@Paul-nq3xb
@Paul-nq3xb 2 года назад
Very good information, but shackles and crane lifting equipment is never safe to be under the load when lifting no matter what the load is or rating capacity of equipment. Because there’s always a chance of failure, in a employment situation I am pretty sure that it’s a OSHA violation to be under a load of any lifting device. Plus it’s just not safe.
@MOAB-UT
@MOAB-UT 2 года назад
Why?
@Paul-nq3xb
@Paul-nq3xb 2 года назад
See explanation in original post
@Paul-nq3xb
@Paul-nq3xb 2 года назад
Just like working under a jacked up vehicle without jack stands.
@blly8325
@blly8325 Год назад
Thanks man, I will not use a trailer ball again to recover or to pull objects ! Appreciate this info 👊👍!! Our Deepest Condolences to all that were impacted by this tragedy. 🙏🙏
@GorVala
@GorVala 5 месяцев назад
To break suction with another car in a dirt is Impossible.. heavy equipment for that. Sad very sad situation 😢
@sarrasmith2508
@sarrasmith2508 2 года назад
Really grateful for this video, I just recently bought a Tacoma, and I've been kicking around the idea of getting some recovery gear. Now I know what to get, and what not to get. I knew pulling off a ball hitch is bad, but I didn't realize you shouldn't use a pintle hitch, either. The rest was known to me, kintetic rope and static straps were on my list, as well as soft shackles, but I think I'll grab a Factor 55 Gear recovery point for my truck before anything else.
@RPG31ninja
@RPG31ninja 2 года назад
Thank you for posting this. I have always been awear of staying out of the line of fire if you snap a strap or chain, but never thought of a hitch ripping straight off. We snatch strap off the tow ball all the time... Time to change that.
@vincentpascale9371
@vincentpascale9371 2 года назад
That happened to a farmer here in DE a few years ago. They were trying to get a 40 foot loaded grain truck unstuck. Oh and never stand under a suspended load.
@seanseoltoir
@seanseoltoir 5 месяцев назад
1000 fps? That would be nearly 682 mph... That doesn't sound right... The biggest problem that I see is that the other vehicle had a drop hitch and he attached the rope/strap at the lowest point, so there quite a bit of lever action to make it even easier to fail... I've been stuck deeper than that truck was in my Jeep XJ many years ago and it was a simple matter of hooking my winch cable up to the nearest bush near the ground (no decent sized trees around) and letting my hydraulic winch slowly pull me out... The great things about hydraulic winches is that you have 100% duty cycle...
@dustyroaddestinations
@dustyroaddestinations 2 года назад
I’m really glad you are covering this. I saw a video about tow ball issues last year and honestly had I not seen that I would have never known about it. This is just so tragic that it happened and I can see a lot of people not knowing making the same mistake. Honestly this needs to be a recurring thing - like maybe even all the recovery channels doing an annual anniversary thing so it get back in front of people. This could have easily been me has I gotten stuck.
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