Breaking down the Arizona Fatal offroad recovery 

Well said

Well said.

Well said

100% she probably saved me. Been doing this wrong getting lucky

Very sad but very rare. Straps are the most dangerous. More stretch, more dangerous. Drop hitches are up there too. Longer the hitch, more torque that is applied. It is called leverage. I do not like either. I prefer my winch. Not 100% safe, but safer than kinetic force.

Static strap is the bigger factor. In this case the drop hitch broke because leverage but in any case never recover vehicles with static straps. Use kinetic ropes because they stretch and absorb shock

Never used you’re brain till today huh

@@LucrativeLarry troll

@@LucrativeLarrywe are still waiting for you to discover you have a brain to use.

A soft shackle will still fly through a windshield. There is a video of a guy in a jeep who had that happen to him. They are just "less deadly".

Less deadly is better than deadly in my book and with that awareness brings adaptability

@@quantumtechcrypto7080”less deadly is better than deadly” sooo..? Deadly is better than deadly? Les deadly is still deadly, it’s in the name.

Your a good parent.

@@kevins971 You have to do recovery somehow, and a soft shackle with a kinetic recovery rope poses significantly less risk than a chain on a tow hitch.

Ya same here. i worked with cranes for many years but never have i thought about this when coming to pulling something stuck out.

Only reason this happened is bc it was a drop hitch

@@Freddy_Confetti as he clearly explained, it could have happened on a regular hitch too. Don’t fuck around and just do it right, plain and simple.

@crippledspiderman Towing equipment is not recovery equipment… yes the hitch broke but the balls as he said are not rated for that and if they happen to be rated close , they aren’t meant to be shock loaded.

I hope so. I've seen people try to get a heavy truck unstuck by backing up and trying to get a bit of a running start,I've never thought this is a good method. It's very dangerous and ineffective. Something is bound to break by doing it this way. I think it's a foolish way of doing things. Tge pulling vehicle needs to pull forward until the tow strap is tight,and then both vehicles give the goose. I've had to do this many times,and it generally will work all the time. But a running start to snatch it out of there us never a good idea. I know of a guy using a climbing rope to do this,when they tie the lnots,they put a big stick in there so the knots can be untied when finished. Well it didn't work,the rope broke and the stick went flying through the air and hit this poor guy in the head and killed him,I'm afraid. I didn't know him,I just know the story. This video is great info. I'm glad I seen it. God bless you all,and be very careful when doing these things. I've never heard of a hitch breaking like this one did, it's very scary.

Never use a chain.

Yes! I was a volunteer firefighter and all of the firefighters instructed us to hang our heavy jackets over the cable before putting tension on it. Also we were instructed to stay more than 20 feet away from the cable.

Here we just use to open the hood to minimize the damage of a strap/cable rupture, a few accidents like this already happened here.

@@madmagyver9981 For sure, unless you bought it yourself and know the rating, but even then I'd take straps over a chain any day. I guarantee 99.9% of people who have a chain in their truck or around the barn have no idea what its working load is.

@@Dan-yk6sy that's why I specifically said a 6 inch dozer strap. It's strong enough for 2 80,000lb machines to tug on and not break it so light trucks (even 10,000 lb ones) can't come close to breaking the strap. It's like a piece of 6 inch diameter ship rope. Unbreakable by light trucks

People generally are horrible until they are found in real life

People can be mean and stupid. I do not know why they would pick such an occasion to be this way. May karma catch up to them.

​@@TheLittlered1961 The keyboard insulates them from physical retaliation. The trolls or unthinking armchair recovery experts will probably never see the person who they are attacking, or their family. This makes it easier to sling crap at the situation without them thinking it through, and still feel like they have made a difference. Condolences to the family of the departed, (I think it was Ryan) who passed away too young

I’m so sorry for her and what she had to experience. That must have been incredibly traumatic. I also feel horrible for the guy just trying to help….

Sadly incidents like this attract the trolls and narcissists and 12 year old bullies that are doing nothing good in their lives but know they should be. God be with the family.

I've always hooked around the actual receiver, that any better?

@@no-replies The receiver is better than hooking on the bumper it's surprising how weak the factory bumper mounts can be. For hard pulls I prefer to go to a frame crossmember strongest place to hook on to.

Outstanding note.

One thing that wasn't mentioned, and probably the most important in related to this, static straps and chains are not meant to be snatched on.

*videos, not video's.

Hotel 8 guy here! Recovered many vehicles! No injuries to me or anyone else from hooking up and recovering vehicles. I had good training!

My first duty station was with a heavy divisional Cav unit - so tanks, brads, and helicopters all in one unit. The M1 tank recovery vehicle, the M88, is how we towed the broken Abram’s. This is where I learned about vehicle recovery and what NOT to do.

@@JoshBryan I TAUGHT that course at Camp Roberts, until Idaho RTS-M got the gig cause California had no tanks left. I put the last 5 M1A1's on the lowboy. Sad day. I was not overly impressed wIth the improvements of the M88A2 over the A1. Although it was heavy enough that you didn't need TWO of them to tow/holdback the M1. Had the CHP ask us to stop training as the dust was obscuring highway 101, once. Good times.

@@chrisgeddes26 that's awesome! I remember one of our E7s talking about the dangers of towing very vividly. This was 4-7CAV out of camp Garry Owen in Korea.

It's always some idiot that doesn't think first that gets others hurt

@@ArmedAndIndigenous The victim was there too mate, he could of halted the operation if he knew what he was looking at. The fact is it was two guys who didn't understand the risk and an awful accident..

@@kingcosworth2643 both idiots for not knowing

@@ArmedAndIndigenous I'm sure there is stuff you don't know, what's the force type and amplitude difference between using a dropdown hitch or an axial hitch in this application?

​@ArmedAndIndigenous I presume you knew? Impressive And your greater um, knowledge has given you the right to judge. Put your foil hat back on now

glad you survived, that is very scary

Holy crap. That’s like final destination shit

Can someone tell @Matt's Offroad Recovery this info, they keep using tow balls. just look at this vid ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-xXrd4BuZeEQ.html

Glad your alright wow

You certainly came far closer than most could imagine. If there was ever a proof of divine intervention, your head movement was such.

How did he die if he was in the car that was pulling you?

Nobody died. Oxyfee was being pulled and the hook flew into his passenger seat...Always read twice so as not to get confused.

@@troycurrie7784 He's telling a story about his friend and ends it with "may his family find peace, and may he rest in peace". I took that mean that his friend died. But now I see he's talking about the poor fella from the video.

@@pw5315 The same adage goes for sending a phone text. Always read twice so as not to send out something confusing...or embarrassing ;-)

@@troycurrie7784 Lol, you're not wrong there, but I don't accept the blame for this one. That comment was written very poorly and it was easy to misunderstand.

You can but with static recovery, not horizontal. You can also shackle and hook from a rear tow bar to your front tow hooks to pull backwards

wow you are a danger

God was on his front number plate (“god & guns”). Is this stupid accident proof there is no god? Or is there is - why did his god have him killed?

Which god ?

Please extend my deepest condolences to the Woods family. I always hate to hear about accidents like this 💔😪

@@mamacat63 I will, I'm sure it will mean a lot to them and thank you!

@@danevannett3804 I neglected to extend my deepest condolences to you, too. Your friend died suddenly and I know you miss him 😔 💔

@@mamacat63 Thank you! but to be honest I never met Ryan. It's most definitely a tragic loss to his family and my thoughts and prayers are with and for them.

I shared. My boys who tow allot. When friends in trouble and commercial. Good time to post as all those stuck boats in Fla. eeeeks. Trucks too. And car water log messes. Storm Ian.

@Tommy Ealey he’s now another ghost being confused for big foot. No hope his soul is in Heaven

I’m most definitely switching from chains to soft straps, and I’m gonna take a damn hard look at all my attachment points. That’s scary shit.

I dont use my hitch for recovery at all. I have both a front and rear class 4 reciever, and I'll shove the strap in the reciever and pin it with the 5/8 pin. I will never use a hitch to pull anything except a trailer.

@Tommy Ealey Well if the hitch pin fails all you have coming At you is The strap So I would be with the other guy that you are questioning about the 5/8 pin the 5/8 pin I would much rather trust that over the 2" ball pulling on a receiver ball is stupid unless it's just a simple Little tug like out of sand or something not badly stuck in mud like this guy in the video appeared to be.

@Tommy Ealey I trust the bare minimum number of failure points with the bare minimum amount of metal that will be flying if something breaks.

No adds as well!

I have used my trailer ball many times to pull stuck vehicles. I honestly believed it was stronger than any straps i use. After watching this video i will neverr do this again. Thanks for this very informative and potentiality life saving video.

@@Michael-lx7px No adds because he never mentioned specific brand names.😉🤣

@@iffykidmn8170 yes he did, it wasn't a sponsored video

@@seanworkman431 thats my point, the video itself was not sponsored but how much was paid for mentioning specific brands?

Sitting here reflecting on the danger I've placed myself in over the years also!!

Are you dead yet. No, ok. Hillbillies have been pulling stuff out for decades.

@@DuelistMandroid Just thinking about it sends shivers down my spine.

For sure, I’m feeling like a dumbass. In the moment when your trying to be helpful, and you have chains, and straps, and a capable rig… it’s natural to chip in and help. I haven’t put much thought in to the load bearing capabilities of a hitch when pulling someone out. I might have the hitch of the 550 in the Tacoma or vice versa. Will pay attention from here out.

@@jinglemyberries866 are we gonna be weak? Our ancestors did way more dangerous stuff and built a powerful country. No risk taking anymore I guess. My grandfather fought in WW2. He took potshots at a Japanese Arty positions to get them to fire their cannons so that the US Navy can blow it up. My great uncle was a nuclear disposal specialist with no formal training. People back then didn't worry about dying cause they knew they would kickoff someday. I risk my life hauling 18 tons in and 89 f250 cause the rancher needed hey for the winter or their cows would die. Our civilization is doomed if we don't start taking chances again.

When I was in the navy I saw a shipyard crane with a load that was rigged wrong and it snapped and crashed down to the dry dock, luckily nobody was hurt but rigging properly is no joke.

The problem isn't necessarily with the equipment it tends to be the way products are labeled. Some are break, some are just a weight rating. So people frequently don't know/understand which is what

@@mrmotofy I have also seen loading straps snap because someone didn’t use a spreader bar

@@mrmotofy The towing gear that people pick up at Walmart, Home Depot, UHaul, RV center for the most part will not be designed with a great deal of safety factor. Those general retailers want cheap items to sell to public at low prices. The uninformed customer will very often choose the $12 "get-er-done" item over it's $30 better designed more purpose fitting alternative.

In most cases I will agree with you. The things that I am annoyed he didn't go over are shock load, and the difference between dead pulling and kinetic pulling. Shock load's where the soft shackles and kinetic ropes excel at and what they are made for, and the only place that they are more than likely stronger than a steel shackle. Chain's and shackle's are very strong under tension, however they cannot take shock load's very well. You may get a few snaps out of them before they break, and when they do break, it is catastrophic.

And I'm on a ranch. Didn't know this. We usually use the winches on the trucks. But have done this too.

Kingman unite!

So he must have believed in some god / guy in the sky (why else would one go to church). Isn’t this awful death proof there is no god? Or did he perhaps do something to p1ss of his god? Please share any info you have. Thank you.

​@@johnhopkins4920 I'm a witch, ex Christian and usually Christians believe that it's in God's plan

@@johnhopkins4920stop being disrespectful

@@johnhopkins4920why wud u care, nothing u say will change anything for them ul just sound like an annoying bitch

greenhorns are a liability. get your guys hard

Wreckfull

We don't use chains much either unless it's just towing one of the quads our buggies back home off our personal trails but not in situations like this

About the only time one can reliably use a tow strap that is meant to be yanked on like that is when you are in 6x concrete mixer pulling another 6x concrete mixer out. Those particular straps are designed to stretch by the pulling vehicle. At the maximum stretch the puller can go, the brakes are set, and the mired vehicle is eased out as far as the tensioned strap can pull it. It’s best to stay a long way away from this kind of operation. Any concrete worker or mixer driver knows this, and they will chase off everyone before it starts, at least two times the length of the strap.

@@phoenixarizona8441 Chains are generally safer than wire rope and straps, as chains don't exert kinetic energy when they fail or come undone.

@@dangeary2134 When I was a kid, my dad parked his tractor-trailer on an old cement foundation, as it was monsoon season. Well, that thing broke through the foundation and got stuck! A wrecker was called, and as things were being set up, an adult told us, kids, to stay back as if the cables snap we could get decapitated.

U have 0 common sense then. All of u airheads in the comments

It wouldn’t have happened if it wasn’t a drop hitch

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Yes I get a street ball or a straight hitch with a ball on it and I have pulled many many people out with it and I have never ever seen that happen that's that's just a once in a lifetime thing you probably never see it again in your life and it's a Once in a Lifetime thing no bad things towards the guy that was killed I mean that's that's life you know it's going to happen and his family has to deal with it and everybody else does but I don't think anybody should come over RU-vid and spread all of this over RU-vid for one guys bad time I think it should keep to the family I don't think there should be anybody else telling about their incident I think the family should do that not one guy and then spreading it all over the world to RU-vid Just because he thinks he can train somebody no there's a lot of people out there to do it and there's a lot of people that are guilty of doing it I just said I was guilty of doing it but I have never seen that happen there must have been a flaw in that hitch

Damn sure wasn't 1/2 inch logging chain broken by a skid steer lol

@@motobox1232 yes it was 1/2". JD 280 skid loader taking running starts on 20' of slack. That's about 9k lbs of shock load over and over on an older chain.

Your heart may have stopped for a time then reset itself.

Seldom anyone in their learning curve in life simply think safety and start out by raising the hood of the vehicle being pulled out. Hopefully this video and discussion impacts that learning curve earlier for those viewing. Each of us has done sketchy stuff in our time with little or no consequence. Stuff like this should be incorporated into a school setting along with the bloody accident movie often presented. Here speed nor drunk driving killed but simple ignorance to at least raise the hood.

You can, but don't do a kinetic recovery. Gently pull tight, then pull while they help. A kinetic recovery is never good in deep mud. But someone who just doesn't have traction, you can static pull them just fine. We do it all the time, but never do kinetic recoveries. That's asking for danger

nope my dad showed be the proper way to pull a vehicles out of the mud etc. rule number 1, never pull from the receiver or ball. This used to be common knowledge. even if it works, you could have a failure later on while pulling you camper or boat... stressing the receiver is not good.

​@@KNR90Its not meant for that and if you do that even with a static recovery you are putting yourself and others at risk

@@sebastianwhalin743 no more than basically any other attachment point, and it's likely the safest choice of attachment, other than attaching a shackle through the tow receiver

If you are in Utah Id suggest Matts's off-road recovery, Has way more experience than this guy quoting paperwork and tensile strength. Just my personal experiences being a Moab junky.

Matt is definitely damn good, I understand this video to explaining the tensile strength and breaking points, it makes a lot of sense to me and definitely showed me just how bad this could go, he did a great job explaining this, I did play this video at work and the other 3 mechanics in our shop were mind blown just like I was and agreed doing it using the ball hitch is not good

@@HHGHEADSHOT oh yeah, the insurance fraud guy......

@@mikegillen6009 please do tell..never heard this one

@@HHGHEADSHOT you are literally talking shit on a video meant to help people understand the dynamics and engineering involved in the recovery process 🙄 a man lost his life and what are you doing???

Wow - I didn't know it was that common

ropes tear chains stretch always use a rope if you're towing heavy vehicles chains are all right but they are an extreme hazard

@@OnTheDLum that makes sense. I’ve always just used my tow ball and a snatchem strap. Glad this video found me before I kill someone.

I use cranes everyday at work. I always check the straps, chains etc.... I saw plates of steel that were 10" thick 144 feet long by 72 tall come off on guys that shook the whole shop.

@@jeffa847 it's not, wife's a nurse at the ER in Uwharrie, massive nationwide known off-roading trail and mudding park. Asked her and after 16 years on the job she has seen this all of 0 times. Q is someone that enjoys seeing likes.

Matt uses recovery ropes instead of a static ropes. If your talking about Matt's off road recovery.

Static lines have their place but not dealing with stuck vehicles. Apart from failure a static line can cause damage to either vehicle. Something one seldom might consider is the invisible suction apart from the conscious weight of the vehicle. Just thinking what it takes to pull a foot out of mud can only translate into a huge restrictive force dealing with a vehicle. Admittedly, aspects of this have come to light for me since watching various recovery videos here on YT. Yet this demonstration shed more light on the basics in a real time environment for me.

My deepest condolences to your bike... Didn't deserve to be slammed on the concrete.

@@xephael3485 I agree. It's a great bike 😂

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A concrete trail through the middle of the woods? Uhhh aren't those trails usually kept as dirt so not to unnecessarily damage wildlife?

I'm guessing you broke your left elbow? Hope you healed up ok

He switched to the hitch link.