Breaking News! FSU Will Not Be Joining Big Ten or SEC! Brett McMurphy Has Just Released New Article 

Who said it didn’t make sense? More importantly, why does the B1G or SEC have to expand again right now? They just expanded and have both signed new media deals. They want to focus on these new changes and how it will impact and affect their conferences before any consideration for more expansion. This rush by FSU and Clemson isn’t shared by the B1G or SEC. Too early and too many legal entanglements.

They never said it doesn't make sense. They're saying it's not a priority. Joining the B1G makes financial sense for ND. But it's not a priority. Hence, it's taken longer than most of us imagined and still not inevitable.

@@heartbreak25 FSU earned over $130m for the ACC. How many teams in the B1G earned 100m? You could count them on the fingers of one hand and have fingers left over.

​@@505premoto LOL! Is that a serious question? To quickly answer it, ALL of them. You sure you want to count? OSU, UM, Nebraska, and PSU all earned more than $200 million last year. Only nine teams total earn more than $200 million. Rutgers, yes, Rutgers earned $110 million last year. So that's your five. Want more? Michigan State and Indiana earned more athletic revenue than FSU last year. So that's seven B1G schools I can count before getting to FSU. You know who else earns more than FSU? Virginia! LOL! Take off your football binoculars and see what's going on across the board.

You'd be happy to join a conference with as little credibility as the ACC only it pays less and spreads FSU athletes all over hell and back?

And you would be among the 1.7% of people in the FSU community to want the Big 12.

Hope the big 12 doesnt want them.

@@Sam2sham You are going to be glad to know that there is absolutely zero chance that FSU goes to the Big 12.

@@505premoto hope you are right.

Wait until late February 2025 then announce a departure effective after or contemporaneously with the end of the non-extended ACC/ESPN media deal - provided ESPN does not exercise its option to extend - which option expires in February 2025.

@@FloridaMan-em3gk each school will have to negotiate its own deal . This all started on shady dealing from old comish. And a couple school which has been kinda let out but FSU don’t want show unless nessary . According to comish. Is not a bad guy but was left the screw ups him and FSU understand the situations they both face it’s no hard feeling just business once it’s all done the whys will be more clear

If ESPN doesn’t extend the media rights contract, it will end in 2027 and ACC schools will look to the other power conferences for new homes. The B1G has room for 2 current ACC members. The SEC has room for 2-4 current ACC members. The Big 12 has room for 4-8. Once 10 conference members (a majority of schools) have found new homes, they can meet and dissolve the ACC under NC law. The GOR disappears. The exit fees disappears. The lawsuits disappears.

Right on !!!

Feel bad for JD. He just won't accept anything. "We don't know anything." We know a ton, FSU fans just don't like it.

@@KeepChoppinI’m an FSU fan since 1964, and all we want is the same money the Gators get. If Big 12 can do this, I am good. We will still sellout every game.

@@FloridaMan-em3gk I think you're being very pragmatic. All of this started because ACC couldn't pay the same money as the SEC and B1G. If you can get relatively higher payouts from the Big 12, while having better access to the playoffs, why not take it? I think it becomes an ego thing for other FSU fans to rub shoulders with the SEC and B1G schools. But rubbing shoulders with the P2 wasn't the initial goal and I think a lot of FSU fans have lost sight of that.

@@FloridaMan-em3gk That's the kicker. There is a scenario where FSU and Clemson end up making MORE than those in the B1G and SEC. That's a very real possibility. Just assuming that the B12 is garbage is a false assumption. FSU and Clemson could end up with piles of cash AND the easiest path to a national championship.

@@KeepChoppin How can it be, "We don't know anything" when there are supposedly three or four "insiders" on Warchant who claim to know everything and have been right about everything in the past?

This is not speculation. These are direct quotes that McMurphy got from inside sources, likely school presidents and athletic directors. "No interest" from multiple sources is pretty clear. Sure, that doesn't mean it can't change though.

What I find totally hilarious is the negative comments towards FSU from a school president whose school has NEVER played a B1G game. Somebody opened the door for her school to get into the B1G and now she wants to pull up the drawbridge. 😂

@@505premoto Unfortunately for some, that's going to be a major hurdle. With the new B1G there are going to be clear "party lines," if you will, amongst different segments of university presidents. There will be the west coast faction, the traditional power faction, and the less competitive faction. The bigger these conferences get, the less unified they will be. That's going to be a major hurdle for further expansion. It's going to be hard to get a unified front, unless there is a clear and overwhelming financial benefit for all.

Excactly

SEC would add: FSU, Clemson, UNC & NCSt… first 4. After that, who knows ? Probably: OkSt, WVU, KS, Texas Tech, or maybe Ga Tech. I don’t think Louisville is totally out of question, but they’re down the list somewhere above UVA & Va Tech.

@@CharlesFosterMalloy nope: NC State, WV, GT, Kansas, TT yes: NC, Va., VT (my personal opinion) Duke (??? I'm not sure about them)

Washington and Oregon will never leave the Big Ten for the Big 12, for multiple reasons (money, academics and culture). A half share of Big Ten money today is as much or more than a full share in the Big 12, and in six years (next media contact) both have been promised a full share in the B1G ($75 to $100 million/year).

Heard that before. For enough money they would join MW.​@@valuedcustomer9614

FSU garners strong love/hate from people. Most people look at Clemson are just like "Meh."

ACC really only in turmoil because of Clemson/FSU greed and UNC mismanagement....ACC still has a guaranteed playoff spot and bye for the champ....just like B12 (under new PO agreement)

Like Texas & OU ?

People get so worked up over anything anymore😂

Greg was telling us FSU and Clemson were the chalk to the BIG less then a month ago?

@@tonywlaschin7842 It all changed May 23rd

He took the L , with no hesitation.

He doesn't know anything more than you or I ... His podcast has become rumor central

@@jeffmorgan9337no he didn’t. He says he did. That doesn’t make it true.

I'll be a broken record on this matter. PSU's total operating budget is $9 billion. The total revenue from ALL athletics is $200 million (2%). University presidents are more concerned with the 98% than the 2%. Schools like Northwestern and UVA drive the 98% for conferences. ND can do both.

Exactly

@@heartbreak25 But we’re talking about sports affiliations… unless your are talking about Ivy League / New Ivy League, or little Ivies leagues.

@@CharlesFosterMalloy You're talking about sports affiliations. And that's the problem. I can't speak for the SEC, but the B1G wasn't founded and created to be a sports-driven conference. Neither was the B1G Academic Alliance. I'm blown away that you think that $200 million matters more than $9 billion. FSU fans have to stop being the guy talking to the girl telling her how much money he has when she keeps telling him how much she prioritizes marriage and family. Sure, you can keep trying to dictate your value to others. Just don't be shocked and surprised when they don't accept your value on your terms.

If that is true then why Oregon over Stanford? Reason? Fox preferred the Ducks to the Cardinal.

Any team leaving the Big Ten for the Big 12 is unlikely. And remember, both UO and UW are promised a full B1G share at the next media contract in 2030.

If by cheap, then you mean zero share for at least half a dozen years, then you may be right.😊

Would have. Could have. Should have.

At the same time, all of this can change at the snap of the finger.

@@thomassweeney4494 that’s 200% true , it could change

@@thomassweeney4494 Have you looked at biggest brands of all time put out by 247? We’re #13 right behind Georgia and ahead of Florida, Clemson and Miami, our biggest rivals, and we did it with 40 to 50 years less time playing football. 😂

​@@FloridaMan-em3gkI do enjoy Josh Pate. At the same time, I also see a lot of opinions in what you discuss. There is only one result I am interested in. What happened between the lines. The opinion of anyone is just that. I just give zero attention to any of it.

Says the biggest hater in the universe. Comical as usual.

No. We now have it on record that one of the school presidents that is against FSU is from a school that has NEVER played in a B1G game (Washington). She knows what she is talking about. 😂😂😂

You don’t have to listen anymore …

So, FSU doesn’t have the grades? Say what? Academically, FSU ranks #53, tied with Minnesota, and ahead of, in order, Michigan State, Penn State, Indiana, Iowa, Oregon and Nebraska. Newest member of the Big Ten, Oregon, ranks #98, barely in the top 100. What were you saying about grades?

GT won’t be going anywhere, anytime soon. That’s the whole point. Neither the B1G nor SEC have any intention of rushing to expand again so soon. Even Notre Dame, who has a standing invite, would have legal entanglements to solve. Even if they were to decide to join the B1G today, it would take a while. There is no current rush or need to rush by either conference. They’ve said as much for those that have been listening.

Your going to Big 12 bye bye

@@jansonroberts2616 Did I say Ga Tech was going to BIG next week? Your not listening but I will say when BIG does expand Ga Tech will be going

@@David-pt6zk You will win the Powerball before that happens. And you never explained why they would move. They have not withdrawn from the ACC. There is no, as in zero, plausibility of them moving until a P2 slot comes open. May not be until 2030. Your blind hatred of FSU is amusing.

Why would they need a travel partner. They are being listed as the #1 school to be added to the AAU and are already at #53 academically and quickly rising. Many of the schools that rank higher academically are in slow/no growth states while Florida is growing rapidly and has far more money than the other states have. UF ranks #22. The state wants both schools to be in the top 20 and they are spending accordingly. By 2030, expect FSU to have jumped 10 spots. In 3-4 years, they won’t need a travel partner.

@@505premotoOregon is already AAU and needed one. That's why. We already covered the disparities in research funding in your last response to me. With all due respect, Tallahassee ain't the Florida people want to visit. Ask ND how much they hate it.

@@heartbreak25As soon as the settlement is reached, the B1G and SEC are going to be calling. Period. No travel partner needed. FSU will have AAU status before the end of the 2025 season so the 2026 season will see them in a P2.

@@505premoto Nice fantasy.

@@heartbreak25 Fantasy is it? Not a priority? Can’t do it alone? Oh, for sure. You don’t have the vaguest idea of what either P2 sees as a priority or how they privately view FSU and the clout that Fox has after agreeing to pay the B1G $8b to broadcast their games. If Fox tells the B1G that they want to get into the 3rd largest state, the B1G will accommodate them. And in doing so, they pick up one of the largest revenue generators in all of CFB. You are free to think what you like. I don’t care.

They had the third-party talk with the big 12 because they it would be rude to ignore anything. It’s the big 12 was reaching out and they’re not gonna be rude. They’re not nobody you don’t close doors with anybody.

They had the third-party talk with the big 12 because they it would be rude to ignore anything. It’s the big 12 was reaching out and they’re not gonna be rude. They’re not nobody you don’t close doors with anybody.