Breath Of The Wild's Biggest Flaw 

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The switch literally can't barely run BOTW at 30fps@720p, that's why the world is so empty. And that's not gonna change before the New Super Switch+ 2DS Pro Max XL.

@@andreylucass well I’m not saying the world is empty it’s not it is actually very well filled out but my problem was more that what they chose to fill it out with was mostly filler content basically the best thing to do would be to remove half the shrines and use that space instead on things like dungeons

@@andreylucass Game wasn't even developed for the Switch dude

Might have to make a pt2 to this so I can add this clear flaw that I missed!

Well, in the content pack 2 Kass says "Breath in the breath of the wild"

yeah, he never said the thing

Link: “well excuuuuuuuuuuse me princess”

My favorite part was when zelda said "ITS ZELDING TIME!" and then zeldad all over the legend of zegend

Also, i think for the purpose that korok seeds serve, it's good that there's an unreasonably high number of them because for the 99% who don't care about completion and just use them to expand their inventory, there needs to be that many in order to come up with a decent number of them passively

And even worse, the loots you earn in the shrines aren't great either. You have found a treasure box in the most unreachable place and inside the box there is 10 arrows.

@dclikemtndew It doesn't changed that it just boring busyworks and really it is a repetitive activity and one of the most stupid way to increase inventory space I seen in gaming

@@hjk9934 Congrats link, you killed ganon! Have x5 arrows.

I genuinely think this is the worst 3D Zelda, closely followed by TotK

i just started playing totk.... i dove in a hole a bit early. regretted my decision before even landing lol

​@@theotothefutureFRRRR especially when you hear the music for the first time 😭 the music is what spooked me the most

True, but that is why there is the overworked instead. Please ty of Zelda games have great dungeons, but none have sush an extensive overworked to explore.

@@mlgcactus1035 true I just really love discovering new dungeons and going down rabbit holes in open world games. Discovering new secrets etc. just personal preference really. I don’t think BOTW is a bad game at all just not for me in some ways.

Shrines sucked in BotW. Some of the abilities were pointless too. The thing I would have to criticize the most was the enemy varity. Combat Boring and redundant. The bosses were underwhelming. This is someone who has played Zelda games since A Link to the Past. Then again, my standards of open world RPGs and combat are set by Fromsoftware games.

I had the feeling that the entire map of the game it's a Dungeon

@@jecko980 different perspective I suppose

Yeah I tried to play the game in January and after Elden Ring it was just hard to get into. The shrines being so prevalent made the exploration pretty boring, so I dropped it but I am excited for tears of the kingdom to improve on the world.

It's so refreshing and jarring seeing people actually agree with me on this game because of all the overwhelming and universal uncritical praise it gets all the time by everyone. I tried to make a post on the Zelda subreddit listing off all my issues with this game and someone genuinely argued that this game has good rewards and i was genuinely flabbergasted. Did not expect anyone would say that because i thought it was pretty obvious how lacking in variety the rewards are

@@ImGiovanna I don’t know what you or IP are expecting to get, exactly. The main objective in the game is to get shrine tokens to upgrade your hearts to get the master sword, no shit you’re gonna find shrines 90% of the time, THAT’S WHAT THE GAME IS ABOUT. So of course your opinion wasn’t well received on the zelda subreddit. You’re completely missing the point of the game like most people criticizing it.

@@Melkac tell me you didn't watch the video without telling me you didn't watch the video. You sound like the type of person to preorder both Scarlet and Violet. You sound like the type to shit on ppl who emulate games that cost 2 thousand dollars. You sound like the type to defend Nintendo for releasing games for a limited time. You sound like the type to buy NSO + expansion pack for multiple accounts. You sound like you begged for Genos in smash even though you've never played Super Mario RPG. Please change and grow as a person

@@PointlesslyNecessaryConvos why though? Completely different games. Maybe it’s just not your genre. What makes the shrines so great are the puzzles. The combat shrines were weak though. Elden Ring is all about combat.

Completely agree

Do you think 70$ is justified for upcoming Zelda game? It's a triple A Switch game no doubt but it's on old ass hardware that's behind even the ps4.. So why price it with current gen smh.

@@jhoelt2922 gameplay over graphics, my friend. As long as it’s good, it doesn’t matter how bad it looks. After all, games like anthem, the avengers and battlefield 2042 all looked amazing, yet they were all financial failures. That’s because if the game isn’t good, then the graphics are meaningless. I don’t understand why people focus so much on graphics having to look the best of the best. like I get it I love great graphics too, but not everything has to have great graphics.

I noticed it immediately and I've felt like I was crazy for never liking this game even when I got it at launch, it's 90% derivative recycled trash and the exploration couldn't keep my attention through the entire game, climbing on rocks gets boring when it's all your game has to offer, pretty graphics and good music isn't enough to make a game the greatest ever made and I don't care if I get shit for this take anymore. Although I want to clarify, just because I'm shitting on it, I'm not saying you aren't allowed to like it, so many idiots in comment sections can't figure that out

@@Egoryotu I agree graphics aren't everything but for example the people who made horizon forbidden west had to put more time and resources into making those next gen ultra realistic graphics than anything on the switches Xbox 360 looking ass, if you just go by quality/personal enjoyment, sure 70 might be reasonable, but based on the effort in actually creating the game probably not, especially since most of the leg work was already done by botw. But at the end of the day, despite how mad people get over 70 dollar games, if you'd spend 60 on it, you'd probably spend that extra 10

Dude THISSSSS. I want to enjoy this game but it's just fucking boring in terms of what you gain from exploring. I don't understand why so many people say they get "lost" in this game's world.

The journey is the reward. Finding a beautiful vista, a new challenge, a hidden boss, and just more game in general is the reward.

Oh no, you apparently can't criticize it based on shrines or being related to shrines! Everyone just loooooves shrines! Just take it from the hundredth person you'll come across under any video that has some criticism of botw, who really FN loves shrines!

Tears of the Kingdom addresses this beautifully

​@Motorik Bear I disagree completely. I think totk is worse in many ways. I do agree with the other comment it's more about the journey not nessarily the rewards. I love both games but they defiantly have flaws

it didn’t desperately need it. There were lots of mini bosses spread around that were a good challenge in the beginning

Definitely not a NakeyJakey ripoff...

The path I went through in the passage lead to the first encounter with a Stalnox and it one-shoted me. So I thought it was a pretty good discovery and climax. Wish there was a cool reward for beating it though.

I thought it was pretty good. I didn’t have any expectations or whatsoever about meeting a boss. So stuff like the hidden rivers below the passage surprised me a lot.

this

This is exactly the problem with most open world games. We need towns not just meaningless ones. Something to do and quests. One thing I did not like elden ring. Felt like I was in purgatory.

@@IronCurtian1 You need to play Ghost Recon: Wildlands huge open world with different countries that have different terrains and tons of stuff on the map.

@@GregoryAlanBaileygamereviews definitely checking that out thank you

Elden ring had no towns

True made it worse for me at least.

There are plenty of moments like this, and BoTW is designed around it! There are even side quests which emphasize interesting landmarks during them-- key example being the young birds' quests in Rito Village. Anyway, here are some notable examples: a player's first time with a guardian Stalker or Flyer (idr what they're called lol), seeing a blupee, meeting the Lord of the Mountain, meeting Klton(!), finding and solving the Lost Woods, fighting the Ingeo Talus, finding Malanya, seeking all 3 Leviathan skeletons, a player's first encounter with a Stalhorse, finding the secret weapon stash in a labyrinth, running into a horde of elemental chuchus (als in a labyrinth), fighting Molduga, taming horses in general, the horseback minigames, finding a pack of Bokoblin Riders, getting to the top of the cold mountain on the Great Plateu, finding the one lady who keeps making bad food, Bozai, Robbie's lab sidequests, hell lighting the lanterns, Tarrey town, the one guy who buys your horse in Gerudo canyon, finding the ONLY korok in the game that requires you to pick up a STICK, getting rid of the lightningrod stuck into the Faron stable, going magnesis fishing for treasure off the coast of Lurelin, the gambling game, fighting the 3 sibling Hinox, and there are more. Some of those pertain to opening shrines still, but the interactions themselves are unique despite the goal being ultimately the same. In fact in some cases, the reward is even weapons or armor but could still technically be boiled down to just the shrine if you ignore all of that as part of the reward.

That is... your fault not the games... "I decided to 100% this game before I beat the final boss, for some reason I got bored??"

Sounds more like a you thing. You gave up with only 40 left? It’s probably because I love getting 100% on games but I never got burnet out and beat the game 100% twice. My girl who doesn’t even play video games beat it and did all the shrines so it has to be in some ways

For me, it never got old somehow and actually it was Elden Ring, with its copy pasted catacombs, caves, and mines that started to tire me out. If I recall, only the tests of strength were repeated shrines, everything else was unique (albeit there were less of them and of varying quality). Not saying it was flawless (and I know this is a minority opinion), but BOTW was totally engaging and enrapturing from beginning to end. I do hope they have traditional dungeons though, that was sorely missing.

​@@IHitTheWater It is pretty common to want to see all or nearly all of a game's content before beating it and seeing the ending. Hell, in the title I just beat it gave me a warning that it was my last chance to collectible hunt before finishing the game. For open world game fans that is definitely less common. But that is because open world games generally have way more filler content than more tightly-knit games.

I made 96 shrines and It was enough, I had Fun finding them but the rest I probably would have to see a guide to find and It wouldnt be fun, so I went kill that pig and start Mario Odyssey It was worth 115 hours, I loved the game and If I had played more than that I could start hating it

yeah, something i really dont like about botw is that nothing changes after you defeat Ganon. like, in the post game, the castle is still surrounded by malice, there's still monsters everywhere, it doesnt feel like you've DONE anything. very disappointing

​@@Apple-Pie-That does happen in other zelda games too. In twilight princess it resets the game to b4 the boss fight at the end.

​@@Apple-Pie- If they remove all of Ganon's obstacles after beating the game, there would be absolutely no purpose for playing. You remove the conflict from the story.

Also, getting a heartpiece is streamlined, nothing of the annoying statue fetchquest. I like Pokémon Legends Arceus a lot as well on the Switch, the time-distortion events is the Twilight of the game but just crazy, scary and difficult.

​@@thepotatoportal69that's not what theyre asking for. Most people like when games like red dead have an epilogue where you do things after the main quest

I was actually combing through my text history with my buddy on Elden Ring, and I was astonished reading how HYPED I was for like the first week or two in about 10-20 hours of gameplay. And then watching that hype swiftly diminish upon reaching the Mountain Tops of Giants. Oh another dragon, another mariner, another tree spirit, another avatar, another death rite bird, another godskin Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit Another ulcerated tree spirit

@@sasaki999prothe end game pacing of some fromsoft games is blegh. I remember dark souls 1 having similar pacing/late game content issues, where once everything opens up it also kinda loses it’s sense of momentum and you get less excited to see the next boss or area

@@sasaki999pro I didn’t reach mountain tops till like 70 hours cause they’re was so much to find before that but yeah that section is pretty bad but then again you do still get castle sol which takes you to malenias 2 areas which are great and of course Farum azula a whole dungeon city in the sky so really if day discovery only gets meh in that specific mountain tops section but even after that improves at least for me

Bro how dafuc do you get friends

@@InternetPitstop oh it only got worse for me from that point, The fire giant was pretty mid. Farum Azula was filled with pathetic beast men that just INSTANTLY die after a single guard counter. And Skeleton Beast men that get deleted by base level holy water pots which I had a SURPLUS of, my faith wasnt even that high. Followed by the Godskin Duo which was so badly implemented I laughed when I had to stand there in an EMPTY arena waiting for a new one to spawn, I didnt even know about the sleep strats. Placidusax has an epic first impression, that is completely soured by a long drawn out run to the arena and transition cutscene. I rolled my eyes at ANOTHER tree sentinel. Fought Maliketh as he proceeded to backflip clip through one of the pillars of arena fall out of bounds and died (they patched this later so now everytime he falls out of bounds he just teleports to the center of the arena without warning, which I think is EVEN worse because the game rewards HIM for bugging out and not working as intended instead of you.) Got back to leydell, stunlocked gideon. Godfrey? That was hype. Okay I'm back in. Radagon **ELDEN RING THEME HYPE** LETS GOOOOOOO- _Elden Beast_ Oooooooh nooooo..... And yeah I wasn't really impressed by the Haligtree either, It was literally just a mixture of Deep Root and Caelid, Malenia's kinda cool though I guess. I really don't think I should have trudged through THREE zones of recycled enemies and bosses just to fight her though.

watch as totk is delayed because of this video

The move from Wind Waker to Twilight wasn’t a result of them listening to the fans. Miyamoto prefers realistic artstyles so the devs making Wind Waker lied to him and kept the whole ‘toon link’ thing a secret until it was too late for him to change. He hated it and the game released to poor sales (because the Gamecube sold poorly as a console, not because people didn’t like it). Miyamoto took the poor sales as vindication and has never allowed another mainline toon link game since. They then set out to make Twilight Princess a full game, based on the old tech demo of Link fighting Ganon that was shown as a preview for what a next gen zelda would look like before Wind Waker released. I also don’t think you’re looking at the series right. Yes, the studio always manages to release decent games, but Wind Waker, Twilight Princess and Skyward Sword were very divisive games, all rushed to release and made under insane crunch because Nintendo higher ups believe it should only take 1.5 years to make a game and demand they meet that deadline. Most of Wind Wakers unique mechanics and story had to be scrapped just so they could ship the game. The devs have always wanted to experiment and release a completed product, but Miyamoto often shoots them down and he and the brass at Nintendo crunch them so hard that they’re forced to fall back on series staples to get something sellable out the door.

@@6ColourMeRainbow9 I'd consider that a good thing! I agreed with every criticism, and if they delay TotK to flesh Hyrule out more, that would be amazing. The only thing I would add, personally, is that the freedom we're given just... goes too far. Its far too easy to optimize the fun out of exploration. The dev team put so many fun ways to get to places in the game, and I can't tell you how many I never even saw in my first playthrough because I just climbed instead.

@@sleepykhajiit1875 what are you LITERALLY talking about? Twilight Princess was started in 2003 and came out in 2006. Skyward Sword was started soon after that and came out in 2011. Neither of those were "crunched". The only ones that were crunched, are Majora's Mask and Wind Waker. And while the discourse around the games might have been divisive, they all still sold decently to extremely well (even their rereleases in HD sold well), with that divisiveness fading over time. No one hates Wind Waker like they did back in the early 2000s. Also Miyamoto isn't some tyrannical dictator. He knew about Toon Link before the reveal and while, yes, didn't like it, let the Zelda team do as they pleased. Why wouldn't he? This team just killed it on the N64. Not to mention...something like that CLEARLY isn't happening with BotW and TotK. Both games have had TONS of development time, with stories of that dev time being how fun it was to experiment and add things to the game (and having PLENTY of time and resources to do so.). Nintendo is not doing ANY of that sort of stuff to the Zelda team. That is just factually incorrect.

​@@chibi2239 Just because a project gets delayed (as most Zelda games have been) and ends up taking 3+ years, does not mean they aren't made under crunch, in fact, an unrealistic deadline getting pushed back is a telltale sign of crunch, and indeed, when Twilight Princess HD released, Nintendo staff did a retrospective on the original development where they talk about how it was made on a very tight schedule and how stressful it was. Twilight's development was made worse by the fact that they had to simultaneously make the game and port it to the Wii for a dual release. Developer Aya Kyogoku said: "During the Development of Twilight Princess, we were always under immense pressure since we just had no time to work with". Twilight Princess devs also stated after the fact that they weren't able to realise their goal of creating a vast and realistic world in that game, which is exactly what happened with the Wind Waker, where they had to scale back most of their ambitions to meet the deadlines. A former Nintendo of America Graphic Designer Jim Wornell, also spoke about how bad the crunch on Ocarina was, describing the project as "overworked and understaffed", he continues: "While I love Ocarina of Time, it’s a great game, it was almost the death of me because so much of my time was spent working on that game. You know, two weeks without a day off, working from eight in the morning until ten at night. You know, it’s crazy." And Skyward Sword went through 5 years of development hell, 2 of which was 'experimentation' and then it was rushed out the door to meet the 25th anniversary of the series. We don't know the full extent of Nintendo's workplace abuse, as its been swept under the rug and considered 'normal' for decades. The only reason we even know Wind Waker was made under crunch is because of Japanese interviews that never made it to the west, which had to be fan-translated more than a decade after the fact, so we here know even less than they do in Japan. "Myamoto isn't some tyrannical dictator" - I never said that, he's more like a less qualified Steve Jobs. He's not an actual game developer or qualified to be in the position he's in, he only got his role through the nepotism of his father. Just like Steve Jobs, he's the ideas guy, who throws ideas out there and gets all his underlings to do the actual work. "He knew about Toon Link before the reveal and while, yes, didn't like it, let the Zelda team do as they pleased." - No he didn't, like I said before, the Wind Waker team literally had to lie to him and keep him away from the project so they could secretly make the game and artstyle they wanted (and it turned out great). When he finally saw it, he knew why they'd kept it a secret and said "you know, its not too late to change to a realistic artsyle", the only reason he let the project go ahead is because they were in so deep, if it was up to him, Wind Waker never would have come to be. Eiji Aonuma said in Interviews that they constantly get 'sobs story' mail and messages from Miyamoto, where he plays the demo and he's like 'this is trash, lol, I don't like these elements, fix them' and even recounts how frantic and urgent he feels when he gets these messages, like he's about to have a panic attack if he doesn't hurry back to work. Miyamoto is also the reason series like Metroid, Star Fox, Super Mario RPG and Paper Mario went neglected for decades or were straight-up killed off, Its because he despises RPG's, doesn't like Metroid and he personally doesn't know or care what to do with Star Fox. He's not a Tyrant, but he is equivalent to a CEO, he's a person in a position of power, he's completely idolized by the workers at Nintendo and he, along with the other Nintendo higher ups, are responsible for the Crunch and workplace abuses at the company.

For totk and botw are certainly no masterpieces with a game loop so repetitive and sidequest so boring that most of them are just busy work or chores for noc that seems to not be able to do basic things.

I loved the Wind Temple. Then when I got to Gorondia I realized that each temple had the same formula and got really sad.

​@@StormSnake0618facts the wind Temple has an awesome build up

100% agree I have 70 hours in totk and most of that time I was pretty bored and felt like I was playing dlc at a certain point I just though “I’m done” I didn’t even do all the shrines or dungeons but there was no real point In doing them I didn’t even finish the game because the story was pretty lame compared to the first one. Overall pretty disappointed with totk I just feel like there was to much praise for botw so when totk came around they thought we can just copy and paste botw formula because everyone already thinks it’s a masterpiece.

@@kyordannydelvalle523 sidequest in TOTOK are way better tho

I think they were on to something with the Trials of the Sword. I would have gladly taken 40 or 60 shrines of substantive challenges (puzzles, miniboss, etc.) insted of the more diluted 120 that we got. But hey, just shaking up the series after the abysmal Skyward Sword is worthy of some praise in itself. BOTW was a terrific new foundation for the continuation of the series. High hopes for TotK.

yeah, that bothers me as well from a narrative perspective. How an ancient civilization from milênia in the past has the knowledge that outside this specific building there will be a challenge? I remember thinking this twice or something through my Game play. It doesn't ruin the experience by any means, but it does bother me.

Don't forget the Divine Beasts.

I want meaningful side quests with actual story’s and good rewards

​@Jonesy Grets yeah, spending 30 min on a quest and then getting 50 rupees felt like a scam.

well you will be in the underground caverns of Hyrule in the new one, but not necessarily dungeons

@@mainstreetsaint36 divine beasts were nothing more than drawn out shrines the champion’s ballad dungeon was what every divine beast should’ve been

Link never ate an octarock either 😢

​@@yohjipenislmao no but he did straight up eat a regular rock in Age of Calamity 😂

OAH!

"Where's the beef?" would have been a great reference that would have totally worked.

Twilight princess was not a good game. Maybe perhaps we do like older games because of nostalgia. I think ocarina of time was the best zelda game ever but that might be due to nostalgia.

@@jRex918 it won Game Of The Year. So objectively, Twilight Princess was a great game. It had the best story, it gave a sense of urgency and it had good sword gameplay compared to BOTW. Also had dungeons

@@tstone9151 BOTW was my first Zelda game, and it was but after 24 hours i understood that there is literally nothing to do besides fucking repetetive shrines, like honestly it feels so empty, and story is non existence i really dont undertstand why it is praised so much it is 5 out of 10 at best not fucking 97 score on Metacritic. Should i play old games? i heard alot of good things about Majora's Mask for example.

Twilight princess was good but I felt like there was just way too much story going on, breath of the wild has the perfect amount of story imo, I remember just mashing the A button to get on with all the damn dialog. Botw felt the most like a link to the past and I loved that the most, what I always dreamed a zelda game would be like in 3d. I wish they did have more dungeons rather then just 4

@@FIREDAN075 Likely due to the DLCs and a lot of Side quests. I'm like 63 hrs in-- and I still have a lot of side quests to complete (did over 20+, not even close to being done). I also only did 2 divine beasts out of 4. Did the master swords trials up to Final one (saving that until final boss).

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same here bro! cant wait for Totk!

Why do I say it like tot-key like Chachki

Tears of the Kingdom did exactly the same. After you played the first 2 or 3 days, while you still think (or hope) everything is new, you will notice that.

​@@knox3590 That's not exactly true. You find new zonai devices in the sky, crystal charges is the depths, new armor pieces on all levels and other things. If you only play for 3 days what do you expect?

@@viktorthevictor6240 There's countless new things to find in TOTK especially. You can make anything sound shallow if you oversimplify it enough.

That's one thing that Elden Ring didn't have that I missed greatly! That physics based emergent game play!

Harsh, but understandable

Im actually flabbergasted. I could maybe understand your opinion in relation to some other open world masterpiece.... but Mario Odyssey? That game is literally the definition of no incentives. Its a crappy collectathon. There is no challenge, no incentives, no nothing. You walk around and find moons, which allow you to progress to the next level. Ive always been more of a Mario fan than a Zelda fan. Mario Bros3, World, and the Galaxy games are incredible. But Botw blows them all away. Especially Odyssey, which is one of the worst Mario games.

@@alibabaschultz352 I'm not huge on Mario mostly so what I expect from a Mario game is probably different from most Mario fans. I want interesting levels, little fun secrets and colourful characters, which I definitely felt like I got from Oddyssey. It's still far away from my favourite game ever, or even my favourite Mario game, but my hatred for how botw killed my childhood franchise for me knows very few bounds.

⁠​⁠@@SaveMeMoonI can’t lie I couldn’t fw Odyssey. I’ve never clicked with traditional collectathon 3D platformers, but I expected Ofyssey to change that from all the hype. I was at the third world and I just gave up after. I feel it’s because I have no incentive for mastering the movement system and capture mechanics. Capturing and controlling a Trex or a fork isn’t cool at all to me, especially if there isn’t a genuine challenge that follows. I can admit the game is extremely high quality but it’s just not for me I guess. BOTW on the other hand is in my top 5 games oat. I loved the challnege in the beginning where ur weapons break and enemies one shot you so you sneak around and shit. I love that game and I beat it twice.

What I don’t understand is why you are more invested in the reward than the experience itself, the important thing in that scene is not the result but all the secuence of exploration and the battle itself, it’s simply stupid to fell dissapointed just bc you didn’t receive a more interesting reward.

Scrolled down to see if anyone else mentioned this. The music for the elephant divine beast is so fucking good...

Easy to miss when they’re all four the same color palette with the same enemy types and same final boss inside.

​@@VantaCube no the bosses were different too. Not different enough maybe in stylistic choice, but they weren't at all the same- you need to fight each one differently.

I LOVE the divine beast music for ruta. Second favorite is vah medoh, but I like the other two as well. And the divine beast attack music is also pretty great. Too bad you only hear all of it once (unless you're like me and can't get enough so you put it on your playlist)

The Blights and Ganon have the same song, just with a few instrument variations. It may be lore accurate and they are bangers, but it's kinda lame compared to the variety of ther Zelda games

And an even better one when both internet pitstop AND NakeyJakey upload!

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Woah cool to see you here! Big fan of your channel man! I’m stoked lol So it’s not that I don’t like them as a collectible type of mechanic thing they are far more interesting than probably any other open world game but for me at least it doesn’t selvedge my feelings on the world feeling repetitive and boring both shrines and Korok seeds I think are cool! But that they don’t for me at least feel substantial enough to fill out an entire world I see shrines and Korok seeds as more filler or secondary type of content like I said in the video this would be like playing elden ring but removing all the underground sections and most of the legacy dungeons and just having more catacombs. So I guess in conclusion for me Korok seeds are good content! But they’re not even as substantial as shrines which are filler content in themselves they’re thus my biggest problem being botw doesnt have a lot of content that’s more interesting than it’s filler content being shrines😅

Makes sense! I think I got hung up on the phrasing of that part of the video, which is why I was curious to ask about it. But the idea of korok seeds feeling worse because there isn’t all that much that feels more substantial makes tons of sense. Anyway, you’ve got a really cool channel here. Very clear you’ve been working hard on videos as your output both manages to be frequent and high quality, and I hope it keeps paying off with your channel popping off.

Thanks man! 🫡

idk fam. These critiques feel very misleading. Saying there's no reward for exploration? Bruh I found an entire Hawaiian based village that wasn't even part of the story, with its own culture and unique music. I found giant fairies. I found dragons and other random stuff Nut riding elden ring is fine; but saying it's revolutionary when you can't even swim or climb in that game just feels wrong. Not to mention how elden ring uses the exact same attack animations from demon souls

@@frogglen6350 the problem is that for every one unique thing you find there's like 20 copy pasted things

😅😅

Reminds me of the part in TLOU where Joel says, "You know Ellie, we really are the last of us". Chills.

Bruh that was lame asf You really thought you did something huh?

@@SadCats666 yeah I kinda did when the joke was funny a year and 3 months ago. I mean come on man i dont even remember writing this comment it was that long ago

@@brain-_ true, my bad

yeah I feel like it depends on the player, for some people seeing the Hyrule castle is an absolute experience, but for us old Zelda players it is not that amazing, we have seen the castle a buunch of times, so, this is an example of what u mention.

Play Twilight Princess. That's a good example of a "real" Zelda game. Also Okami.

@@TeacherDoug7 your first zelda game should always be OOT imo

@@DjirifoekrkfkfVery true. TP also feels like it’s sorta meant to appeal to those who already played OOT and MM, even though it’s not really related story-wise

@@IceBlueLugia they are pretty related story wise tho since the hero shade is OOT link and also TP ganondorf is the same as OOT ganondorf

That’s kinda where I am currently it’s definitely better botw but I’ll have to play more too see where I stand by the end but one thing is for sure but I think it says a lot about botw that after tears of the kingdom botw is basically an obsolete game now and that never really happened and it’s prior Zelda games

Look at the map. The lightroot you found has a purpose!

@@InternetPitstopthis comment is the reason why I will never visit this channel again ❤

Botw destroys totk by the mere fact that totk is a copy with no originality and 0 personality. Botw is better simply bc of the fact that it was a revolution in its day and totk is simply a copy of everything that made botw great in its day but with lower quality. More doesn’t mean better. Totk is just that, a big dlc

But that's the thing, almost no one did criticise the game, so at the end of your video when you say that the Nintendo team listen to the fans, all they heard was this game was amazing, so even though you say "They won't just give us the same world with a different story" they kinda did? At least they also added an underworld, and included those new mechanics with combing machine parts together, without those two things ohh boy, your hope would've been hit so hard in the face, I think it would've really hurt you emotionally.

They better 😢 TP Link could pet goats and hold cats abd dogs. I want that back...

I think there a more priorities that need to be addressed before making the petting of animals

Bad news, THEY DONT LET YOU PET THE DOG

you just covered my video in this single comment... that's impressive lol

@@InternetPitstop lol, sorry for that, i actually commented before watching because i'm at work, but I wanted to share what i feel. Really like your work dude, i learned about you with the pokemon videos, keep the good work, and i will definitely watch this later. Ps: i whatched the video now, and man, it really was like you said, what a coincidence.

Everything in this game takes FOREVER to do also, in Skyrim or Elden ring or other open world games it takes a fraction of the time what even doing ONE thing in BOTW takes

@@VulturePilot i think that this depends, like the missions are structured in a different way. Like defeat Ganon, it can always be there to end, or it may be the first thing you do. The devine beats for example, the goal is always went there and kill the boss, but for going there you have to do a lot of missions for that people near the beast. I see this like, every time i'm going to a new devine beast, i'm entering a new chapter of the game, to learn more of the story, so it wasn't that much of a problem for me. What it make it hard is, like i said, traveling, really the motorcycle change so much that it will be a HUGE problem for me the game don't have anything similar to compensate.

Exactly this..i got so underwhelmed with the shrines when i was near the end of the game and the shrines were STILL giving me useless weak items that i could easily find in the overworld. So stupid.

I rather watch real life videos of people exploring than playing a game that forgets it's main purpose (be a videogame).

It's not like he's gonna use BotW music for the video, there's not much of it.

I mean yeah, but if they are gonna bring proper dungeons back maybe change them in some ways, the old dungeon structure was becoming repetitive too

Amen

@CounterBalance The Wind Waker dungeons are the best in the Zelda franchise imo. Themed and fun!

​@@Hauntaku wind waker is also my favorite! Not much because of dungeons, but because of the trama and finale (actually darker than most other games even with the cute art style)

I hate this franchise and ima still watch

Naked Jacob is also in my place so its a tough choice

caves would be counter to the movement systems

@@wesleywyndam-pryce5305 there are caves in tears of the kingdom mate... plenty of them everywhere

actually u pretty much summed up the vid lol

I highly recommend playing the very first Zelda game, it's everything we all wanted Breath of the Wild to be, and it's on the NES!

@@cleverman383 They're barely actually alike though. Zelda I has more roots with the rest if the series despite having the open map.

@@amandaslough125 Exactly. It has all the stuff we love from Zelda that BotW was missing, plus the open map. Best of both.

If they introduce the linear dungeons Zelda is most famous for, totk will be an absolute shit ton of fun

The one thing that’s unfair to compare is the fact that elden ring is basically dark souls bros ultimate. It’s using assets from a decade of souls games. So they were able to pack it more densely with interesting tidbits.

@@locdogg86 True. I'm hoping for TotK that they're able to do the same and it's not just 120 different shrines inside an admittedly cooler physics engine than the last time.

Yeah, I dunno... when I play a single player game, I want my experience with the game to be personal and intimate. Designing a game around social media interactions sounds like the worst thing ever (not saying Eldin Ring does this; I'm guessing the social aspect is more of a bonus than a draw)

@Nizz LaRock You say that as if Zelda isn’t an even older franchise with a longer history to draw on. The purposely ignored it to innovate but they could have looked back after the break through. I see dark souls as monster hunter with level design and dungeons. After Elden Ring one game I really want to see step up is monster hunter.

@@jeremymullens7167 ur misunderstanding. Im talking about the technical aspects of creating the game not the mechanics or level design.

I loved those

Even those are optional. You go a very long time with hardly any interaction or story development 😔

I just wish they were gameplay instead of being cutscenes

Firenze 64 Yeah it is too op. If there were cooldowns after you ate a meal it'd be better at least

As opposed to? I haven't played that many zelda games but first of all, potions and fairies in OoT were all "pause consuming". Perhaps its different in other games, idk. But what's the difference to running over hearts that also instantly heal you? Perhaps the sense of OP comes from the fact that you have an unlimited inventory, so you're invincible if you keep an eye on the health bar and prepare well for a fight.

@@borstenpinsel you drink from a limited inventory that you can map to any button and we see link actually drink it as opposed to on a menu screen while your being sent flying. Also, you get hearts from defeating enemies, encouraging more aggressive combat if your low on hp.

@Firenze 64 what I meant is that the game is still paused. You don't get pushed and shoved and hurt while sipping from your potion bottle in OoT.

​@@borstenpinsel i thinking the pausing is defo op, for example SS, i struggled fighting ganon/demise because id have the run away, try open my inventory and drink a potion all at the same time he would charge at you. 99% sure its the same in no pause mechanic in TP and WW

always brings a tear to my eye

I love the scene in Link to the Past when Link says "now it's time for me to link... to the past"

That scene in TP where Midna says "no Zelda, I am the Twilight Princess"... truly a moment.

It’s because Majoras Mask treated it’s world somewhat like a dungeon in that all of its sidequests were stuff you had to actively be smart about time management along with clock town being really well designed. Majoras Mask made all of its off the beaten path and side stuff the best part because it had depth and unique gameplay elements. That’s not to say Majoras Mask was perfect (great bays zone and temple were awful) But the one thing it did was make it’s world a heck of a lot less cardboard like and more lively compare to Breath of the Wild. Yeah having to use the song of time to go back in time was annoying but overall it’s world felt much more dungeon like and fun compared to BOTW. Heck (your mileage may vary) Skyward Swords zones and Skyloft was better than any village or subarea in BOTW because of how dungeon like they were.

​@@samwiseb2799the temple and zone weren't awful lol. Anytime I hear someone complain about a water temple I assume they don't have good navigation skills

I think you'll relate to this vide lol

Sammme. I really had to push myself to finish all four beasts and even now, can't get myself to finish the ending

Mine too. I found it fun the entire way through. For me, it’s about pacing yourself through the adventure. Not a lot of games want you to adventure the way BOTW does. I got through it just fine and loved the ending. You have to take your time with it.

@@kingrobotnik6950 The problem is, I am a completionist and took too much time with finding everything. It just lost its fun when there is SO much to uncover and its all just shrines and korok seeds

@@timh.7169 I'm pretty sure that I saw a video on this before, but BOTW seems to not have been designed to go against getting 100%

The reason is that we get attached to our tastes. If someone heavily criticizes something we like, it can sound like them calling us stupid for liking it. That's the source of the butthurt. I experience this all the time despite knowing it's coming. I hate the feeling of loving something dearly only to hear someone say it's awful. It's a hard thing to contend with if you're sensitive to that stuff.

Had us in the first half.

shrines also give the equivalence of a heart piece.

@@kittenfan7664 why did i only just realize the spirit orbs are equivalents to heart pieces omg

Except all that does is add an effect, which the elemental weapons already did. The game had very rigid, unresponsive combat. Link only stand still when attacking. You have to wait between short clunky hops, no rolling behind enemies or vaulting over them like previous titles. Combat was a bore.

@@________5347 yeah except I'm not talking about combat? Idk what the elemental weapons have to do with crafting

@@________5347 crafting is not exclusive to making weapons or armor, it can have multiple other uses. Instead of just fighting enemies or mining ore because you get rupees, with crafting you will have an incentive to go do that. If you collect a certain amount of materials, the pay off could be very satisfying for the player. I understand you might not like the combat or loot system but most players do, and adding those extra layers could really enhance the experience way more than something like an elemental weapon, it would be well beyond just an effect. Maybe Nintendo could add some extra combat techniques in Tears from something like twilight princess, that would incentivize combat even more.

@@abkbofficial Okami figured this problem out years ago. You spend your experience on learning new combat techniques that allow the player to use their creativity to fight. You get more powerful versions of existing weapons that don’t break and add to the lore. BOTW loot system gets boring the moment the player realizes they’re the same 3 melee weapons with rigid attack patterns. Only difference is % damage and durability.🥱

this aged well!

This is a big problem with Nintendo. When people complain about some game, they go out of their way to go in exactly the opposite and throw the baby out with the bathwater. Skyward Sword increased the linearity compared to other Zelda games, and when people didn't like it, the response was to go "Ok, no linearity then". That's not...that's not how you listen to feedback. It seems so often they just get angry and throw out perfectly loved things because something else got criticism. It's bizarre.

Actually the art book reveals elements of shrines so I wouldn't count them out fully.

I absolutly love Dark Souls and The Witcher, but they are different experiences than BotW. Dark Souls is much much more constrained. The Witchers world itself is actually somewhat bland, the focus isn't on exploration, it's on the (brilliant) stories and side quests. The closest comparison is probably only Elden Ring, which fundamentally has similar issues towards the end as BotW (after 100h you do see certain patterns repeat). But Elden Ring is also the size of three Dark Souls games stapled together.

@@georglehner407 problem with botw is after the plateau the feeling of shrines being unique goes away, and after the first divine beast everything unique is gone, then it just repeats

@@mynameiscal3478 I do agree with that to some extend (although there are still other cool things to discover, e.g. the dragons, Hyrule Castle, Eventide Isle, the building the town quest, Korok Forest, and the monster part merchant come to mind). But if I look back at my experience playing BotW, I've rarely ever been so immersed in a game, having hours go by while playing, thinking about it even afterwards, and I've played through pretty much every mainline Zelda title (and many many other games). The way the game is structured in letting you explore on your very own terms is a masterclass of game design, and I believe only Elden Ring and now Tears have done that same kind of game design right, while adding more unique stuff to discover.

Yeah, a lot of people will deny reality when it reveals uncomfortable truths about something they love. It's a shame, but we're all guilty of it to some degree.

i just finished my first playthrough of botw. i liked the puzzles in the shrines, but yeah, they can get pretty damn repetitive. i will never understand people who say this game is a perfect 10/10

I was so bored when I finished BOTW. I had done so much of the same thing that I wanted it to be over. I always kept the opinion to myself cuz I didn't want scandal.

BOTW did that to me the first go around too, and TOTK isn’t much better. I’m in the late game, and I’m just so tired. I’ve given up on exploring the depths because there’s literally nothing down there, the surface is starting to feel super repetitive, and rain halting my climbing speed actually makes me really angry because it’s making me play longer. These games aren’t 10/10 masterpieces-heck, I don’t even think they qualify for top five in the franchise. Both of them hit the ground running, trip on a pebble and fall flat on their face in the midway point, then slowly crawl past the finish line in utter agony.

​@@HEARTS-OF-SPACE uncomfortable truths? Just because someone doesnt like the game doesnt mean its bad. Frankly its one of the best games and won GOTY :)