Keith was involved in a car accident the day before the funeral. Mick was under contract for filming in Australia. I guess they could just have layed that to a side, right? 😂
i agree, Brian was not a good guy, but Bill and Charlie going to the funeral was common decency. Jagger could not attend because he was in Australia, Richards was in the hospital after he got hit by a car.
@richardbrowning9953 Failing, is UNACCEPTABLE! Even now. This man SHARED A TREASURE with others &, how did he get repaid? Simple. Stole his tresures, stepped on his heart, kicked him in the ass &...is found at the bottom of a swimming pool face down all by himself. That`s GRATITUDE 4 ya.
Brian formed the band, named the band, got them their gigs and contributed as much or more than Jagger/Richards to their music. Jones taught Jagger harmonica and Richards blues guitar! From the choice of early cover music to terrific harmonica solos & slide guitar work to SIGNATURE RIFFS and arrangements of so-called "Jagger/Richard" songs... Jones' contributions to the success and importance of the band was immense! After he was kicked out the Stones became a different band. Bill Wyman said very positive things about Jones as did many many others. He was flawed, like everyone, but a huge important part of the band in EVERY WAY. Allegedly manager Andrew Oldham pushed the Jagger/Richards thing to the forefront sidelining Brian. His immense compositional contributions were minimized. As it got worse Jones didn't feel part of the band that he started. It wasn't his drug use that was the real problem, they ALL were drug users, it was that Jones was barred from entry into the US, because of a pot bust, so he couldn't tour there. The band wanted to tour. So Jones was ousted. Reportedly he was also secretly afflicted with epilepsy and that created mood swings and problematic behavior too. As stated in this clip, there was more that they could have done for him. They didn't.
It's as if he expected too much out of life...nothing was good enuf...HE could have MADE BETTER CHOICES... He just wouldn't stop n get help...!!! Spoiled...if u ask me...
@@barbaragorny1527 Being spoiled isn't what led to Brian's demise, all rock stars are spoiled. Brian was too innovative, proficient and talented to be forced into a position as a mere accompanist, it was anathema to his personality and goals. It was too much of an insult for him not to be included as a collaborator in the writing process. If Gen. Patton was demoted to private with no chance to move up in rank, do you think he'd have stayed in the Army? No, he'd have quit and joined another branch of the armed forces. That may be an extreme example and Brian didn't handle his demotion very professionally but he couldn't thrive under the thumb of someone else's leadership.
Yeah…he was pushed aside despite not only being the founder but also the genius….all because he couldn’t get a US Visa….Jesus, they could’ve intervened but they were already wrought with guilt for pushing him out….they were looking for an excuse to let him go and mostly out of greed…..shame on those guys….band never been as good or creative since those early days with Brian being allowed to contribute….Christ, they even stole half his writing credits. Mick and Keith will burn app said and done…if you know what I mean.
@@james---b You and I have sure an end! Nobody knows us! Brian Jones was the founder of the Stones! His name stays in history forever, and so the Rolling Stones! Have a nice day!
They took his leadership role and relegated him to basically a session player. Why would he want to contribute after that. Unfortunately his personality wasnt strong enough to whip them in line. Dont know what kind of deal they had with Oldham but I would have fired his ass for starters. As soon as he showed up things started going bad. Should have told that guy his job was getting gigs and thats it.
100% Keith Ronnie and Mick super jealous of Brain Jones thay kill him and blamed the drugs hes was lossing his grip on life. Keith really submise oh Brain Jones was a weak mental case .Keith was that ugly he was lucky he got famous because he couldn't get a root in a whore house with a wallet full of $100 bills .
in my opinion Brian was the founder of Stones.., he was a real bluesman & he also gave the name of the band from Muddy Waters's song tittle... I really love every songs he wrote, full of character & gave the color of Stones in modern music industry 'till right now... we miss u Brian... never forget u...!!!
Completely agree Honey! Keith ripped off Brian's tunings, and lied when he said he got them from Ry Cooder! The best years were with Brian. Mick and Keith were both jealous of Brian, and with the help of manager Andrew Oldham; conspired to rip the band away from him.
@@lefrauens Brian did not "audition " or "hire" anyone in the Stones. It is a lie to say that he did. Jones myths are prevalent , but they are not true. Brian and Ian JOINED Keith's band the Blue Boys. Brian Jones founded NOTHING!
Except that he wasn't. It was all a lie . Jones asked Keith if he could join Keith's band the Blue Blue Boys seven months after they were founded The Blue Boys changed their name to the Rollin Stones. Brian wasn't even a founding member of the band that BECAME the Rolling Stones The ORIGINAL Rolling Stones were decidedly Mick and Keith.
@@williardbillmore5713 Lol is that you Frank Thorogood, Tom Keylock, or maybe Whack job Joe Biden/LIEden? your BS post is The LIE! Brian Jones had more Musicianship then the rest of the Stones put together. He named The Band, was the Band spokesman, and initially managed the Band, and booked their early Gigs understandably taking a bit larger cut of the money. That didn't sit well with the others, especially with the Ego Glimmer Twins Mick & Keef. But sadly Brian did more or less self destruct. KR was/is a pretty Cold Fish by his own admission from a pretty stoic, emotionally devoid family. If Brian would have lived and formed his own band he might have called it The Rolling Jones, or The Trolling Stones.
He was his own worst enemy. It was evident even long before he even got the Stones started. And the. It spiraled downwards at lightning speed. And it was all his own doing. Dont go looking for blame elsewhere. Who would have thought Keith Richard made it through to this day?🐝
@@tomwheeler6760 I shake my head at all you Brian worshipers who were not even born when the poser faked his way through seven years on the backs of Keith and Mick's talents. Not only do you people lie about who he was what he could do but you overlook the awful way he treated his own offsprings. He was phoney and a horrible person.
Brian was a legend - Mick is just a good singer and Keith just a good guitarist. Brian is immortal and will always be remember as a beautiful young man. How will Mick and Keith be remembered - as old, wrinkled has-beens.
I wouldn't even say Richards is a good guitarist. He has a style and one remembers the riffs but a riff is only a half a dozen notes that act as an earworm. But I've been buying their records since I ten years old and can't think of one song where the guitar is profound like Hendrix or Duane Allman or Robert Johnson or Peter Green or Jack White or Bonamassa or Little Barry or Mick Ronson or......
It is debatable as to whether Mick is a good singer. He's a gret showman. Keith Richards may in fact be the most overrated guitarist in rock history. Brian Jones was the original spark of art in that band. Once they kicked him out- and that's what they did, they kicked him out - the Stones became a mediocre corporate rock and, nothing more.
Brian was definitely the most talented of the bunch. Quite the multi-instrumentalist. He founded the band in 1962 along with Ian Stewart. By 1964 along with Andrew Oldham, Mick and Keith took over and eventually pushed Brian out. They were harsh on him. Sure he over did it with drugs and drinking but still he was the founder. There would be no Stones without Jones!
When you listen to Santanic Majesties Request you could see and hear his brilliance. Take. Like a Rainbow he played all the brass, stings (cello), melioration, and a .toy piano
While the founding story is true, sometimes moves need to be made. It happened with Pink Floyd, who had to move on from their golden-boy founder Syd Barrett when he too got irretrievably whacked out on drugs. It happened with Blood Sweat & Tears, when they realized they could do far more without founder Al Kooper than with him. It’s just the way it is.
@@Gk2003mVery thoughtful post. Yes, it is true that there would have been no Stones without Jones, but would they have lasted with him? As they evolved, he became a burden on their continued success, so things maybe had to go in another direction. Sadly, he died too young for anyone to know what could have been. The music industry is riddled with stories just like this.
Brian Jones formed the RollingStones back in 1962, he chose Mick Jagger , Keith because they were at Alexis Korner's blues club hanging out and listening to Brian play slide guitar to Dust my broom and other delta blues tunes. Charlie Watts was there at the Ealing club as a drummer. Then Brian put an ad in a Jazz local newspaper for a bass player and along comes Bill Wyman who was a little older than the others and had served in the Koren war in the late 50's early 60's, was already in a band and owned 2 amps , plus lots of ciggs , was too cool , he was in immediately!! In the very beginning Brian, Keith & Mick shared a flat at 102 Edith Grove Ave., they did alot of their jamming and their flat - mate James Flegh whom their group compositions were named after partly under a pseudonymn - Nanker Plegh, excuse typo on James's last name! Most of these friends have written books about the Stones if you care to google to obtain more info.. Brian was the group's manager , the title belonged to him, their interim manager after this was Georgeo Glomelsky owner of the Crawdaddy club in the Station hotel in Richmond.. Brian was light years ahead of the other bandmates because of his early musical training , both his parents Lewis and Louisa Jones were very musical having met in a Welsh methodist church, both boasted an impressive musical aptitude.. Louisa was an accomplished pianist, who taught piano lessons in their home. Brian was taught piano by his mom, they encouraged him to excell , having bought him a clarinette, plus a guitar in his very early teens..
Alexis Korner had advised Brian not to pick both Mick and Keith there was a danger that they would take the band over made a lot of sense in light of how it went down Brian was doomed once Eric Easton was out as manager and Oldham took over early on there were rumors that Brian was going to quit the stones Brian himself said first they took my music then they took my band and then they took my love I think Brian began to reject them in retaliation for how they rejected him they bullied him early on as one story when they were on the way to a gig and he wanted to stop at a pharmacy I believe it was they drove off and left him ...some way to treat your bandmate they undermine his confidence at every turn instead of encouraging him that's from marianne faithful imagine what they could have done over the years if they had nurtured him instead he truly was brilliant go to RU-vid Peter Townsend roasted them with his induction speech at the rock and roll hall of fame brilliant! Keith resentful that Anita Pallenberg never got over Brian after they kicked Brian out Mick in particular tracked Brian's activities as Bill mentioned it was really uncertain as to whether or not the Rolling Stones could go on without Brian he was the most popular stone in Germany and Scandinavia curiously Steve Marriott considered by M&K as a replacement for Brian once Marriot started to sing at his audition it ended abruptly as fate would have it Marriott had been considering Brian to be in Humble Pie IMO that was too much for the Dimmer Twins to handle Humble Pie with Brian could easily have outshined the Stones and usher in Brian's return to the blues and R& B Alexis had told Brian that ship had sailed too late to go back to the roots of the Stones music Steve Marriott himself uttered the words Brian considered for Humble Pie was in play before he was murdered (Steve's words) I believe the Rolling Stones and Keith were concerned about competing with Brian in another band Brian was good friends with Steve winwood Brian turned Steve winwood on to his first acid trip could you imagine Brian in Traffic? I certainly can also rumored was Jimi Hendrix John Lennon Brian Jones in a super group if Mick and Keith weren't responsible certainly others in their circle and various sycophants might have plotted against Brian for certain Allen Klein could not be trusted considering Sam Cooke was murdered on his watch and I have also wondered if Brian Jones had secretly copyrighted the Rolling Stones name apparently Keith pulled a knife on Brian when they sacked him what could possibly provoke that? Tom Keylock had apparently been sent to Cotchford Farm to thoroughly search Brian's house & belongings what was he looking for? Hmmmm ? Something to think about
It is a sad story.... Brian was a very gifted, natural musician who was, in the early days of the band anyway, its essence. You can't mistake the genuine sadness in their voices when they speak about his spiralling down and finally out. RIP Jonesy, you are missed.
There was no love lost. Jagger & Richards turned on him and stoled his band. Then a few weeks later, Brian is murdered in his pool. Hmmm Who would have benefited from it? They probably paid someone to kill Brian.
Don't believe there was true sadness. Wyman and Watts were the only two 'Stones who went to Brian's funeral. The other two had pressing engagements, contract obligations..a lot of rubbish..if they'd had really cared they woulda shoulda coulda been there.
You Cant Get What You Dont Want.When will people realize that you cant help someone who doesnt want to be helped.Recovered addicts are ALL people who WANTED to get well.
Nor should he, what did Keith go through, but still kept up his contributions, I really tire of this Brian worship, Keith got his girlfriend because she came crying on his shoulder when Brian would beat the shit out of her, if if they knew about drug abuse as they do now they may have been able to help him, but you don't want help until you help yourself.
You don't steal a friend's girl. That's what killed him. They had issues? Fine, let her find another. Keith should not have stepped in. That was the nail in Brian's coffin, and everyone knows it, especially Brian's father. @@kennethozelie2082
"Let's face it. The future as a Rolling Stone is very uncertain." Brian's pithy remark comes across as very poignant now. At the peak of his powers, he was the ultimate mid-60s Acid Dandy. It should be remembered that Brian was responsible for Jimi Hendrix's UK record deal. Brian was a class act.
"Influence" is not the right word. Brian Jones was the genius and musical visionary who CREATED the Rolling Stones -- i.e. he created them from scratch. He recruited Jagger and Richards into the band he was forming and he got them to do the music in the style that he wanted them to do it. He taught Keith Richards, a young kid still wet behind the ears, how to play guitar. And he taught Jagger the essence of cool. They were both adept students, but (like many students) at certain point they began to resent the Master.
Yeah at first they admired Brian. Then later because of jealousy and greed, they conspired to steal the band. THEY fired the FOUNDER?! They knew if Brian had sued that they had everything to lose. I wouldn't be surprised if Mick & Keith paid someone to kill Brian.
@@Methilde We will never know how much he contributed. Marianne Faithful insists the song Ruby Tuesday started with his melodic notion, but he was always snubbed when it came to getting writer credit. Who knows how many more times this happened? Wyman had to fight to get some of his stuff used and credited.
0:05 Brian observando como los traidores e ineptos se robaban su banda ...que triste se le ve su mirada por Dios...si hubiera una fórmula para revivirlo ...si hoy viviera seguiríamos escuchando canciones más trascendentales y maravillosas
Peter Gardiner - his riffs and playing different instruments made a lot of Stones' songs special. Some would be just average without his contributions.
Brian needed help desperately...and they kicked him out?? No expectations, my favourite Stones track, is his epitaph. Just simply the sweetest most beautiful slide piece ever.
@Multi Strickland a rhetorical question for you, meaning I'm making a point, not probing your private life. Do you have any idea what it's like to have a hardcore drug abuser in your inner circle? Like a family member, or someone in your group of very close friends? Step that up a notch and say that person is also one of your business partners. It's chaos. A band is a business and writing music & touring are their commodities. I'm sure they tried to help him. But something we've found out since the late 60's is that you can't force a drug addict to go clean, they have to want it bad enough. Unfortunately, some people never get to that stage and the drugs get them before they kick the drugs out of their life.
Spot on, real "friends" would have tried to help, i'm not trying to make him a Saint, but stealing his Girl and freezing him out does not show how true friends would react, and Keef saying "finaly" as a reaction to hearing about his death, is sooooo bad
clanbj Shows you what fame does to some people. Jagger always goes on about how some are not made for the pressure of fame. But I would say other are want it all so bad they are willing to act like scumbags to get it. That fits the other stones to a T. Sad part is for a brief period they had some really good blues oriented albums right after Jones died. And the funny thing is this was the direction Jones wanted them to go in. That spark died though after Taylor left. His great guitar playing solos were what made that period. Also before that Jones musical acrobatics on all those different instruments gave the stones their awesome eclectic sound. Its just boring guitar chord growls now because the talent left the band behind.
Keef and Mick didn't even go to his funeral. Their attempts at sympathy for Brian are just weak. Mick, Keith, and Andrew took his band away, no wonder he went down. The Brian years were the best!
Keith took his girl because Brian was abusing her on vacation - the 3 were on holiday! I walked down the street with Brian July 1964 at about and he was drunk before doing a charity show at 100 Club Oxford st! He liked to hit Women and abuse himself with booze and Drugs unfortunately! He was my favorite Stone! The Autopsy revealed that he was in poor shape and would have lived not longer then another couple of years!
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I’ll never see/hear the Stones without thinking about poor Brian ❤😢. I wonder if Keith or Mick think about him ever.. they should.. without Brian there would have been NO Stones❣️. RIP Brian ❤😢.
What is Mick belly aching about ? Brian was waiting for the right riff to come. And when "No Expectations" was created that's what was his genius at work. Brian knew what he was doing. It's just the rest of the band made it hard for him to work in the later period.
Because according to actual facts, it was a known requirement that as a condition for both all the performers & the chosen audience members (by Mick's insistence) that EVERYONE WAS TRIPPING on acid.
@@fry1507 the stuff they made after he died was repetitive and boring, most of the songs sound the same - the only thing really standing out about it was Mick Taylors lead guitar work, Brian was a much more talented instrumentalist than Keith could ever be
What i find strange is that almost all the songs are signed Jagger/Richards but when Brian Jones left the group they didn't make any like extraordinary song as they did before 1969
No Expectations is one of my all time faves and Brian's slide guitar is absolutely beautiful- totally makes the song! Well, and also Ian Stewart's piano on it. Ian was a terrific contributor to this song and the Stones' music for many years. I was glad Keith acknowledged his greatness in his book; he richly deserves it.
Said it before - without Jones Jagger would be a retired accountant in Surrey now and Richards would be a fork-lift truck driver in Dartford playing in pub bands on a Saturday night
Don’t show your lack of knowledge, if Brian Jones had remained with the band The Rolling Stones would have never reached the heights they did, Jagger and Richards were and are the Stones, written 500 or more songs that are still played today at their concerts which are sold out in hours worldwide. Brian Jones apart from being a great musician was also a serious addict and that is what caused him to leave The Rolling Stones not Micks jealousy
'lack of knowledge'? I've followed the Stones for over 45 years. 'the heights they did'? The Stones are little more than a tribute band now and have done nothing original since the seventies. Jones was never an addict although of course the Kent Forklift truck driver was. What caused him to leave was that he wanted to be blues musician and Jagger & Richards wanted to be pop stars. Without his influence they would have been merely another sixties flash in the pan band largely unheard of today. Read a book mate.
tnimbus - what really did Brian in was that blues had been the love of his life and when the band he had begun with such high hopes starting turning away from that genre he really began to lose it. Oldham played a role in that as well. From about 1967 on he was functioning in another world because the real one had become too painful. I always say Brian died from a broken heart, literally and figuratively.
The Stones do not even know how important Brian is to them. Brian was literally the one who formed the band and also gave it its name. He also served as both their manager and leader for all the times that he's been there. If it weren't for him, they wouldn't have gotten the fame that they had throughout the decades.
This guy needed help so very bad! And they (the rest of the band) could have helped him, I'm sure! Imagine, what wonderful albums the Stones could have made through the years with a Brian Jones in a halfway stable physical condition!
Quite phenomenal really what Brian contributed to the Rolling Stones all those great tunes with different instruments no expectations is a beautiful song but also sad because that was the end what a way to go you can’t forget the guy after all it was Brian and Ian Stewart’s band you maybe gone Brian but your not forgotten you’ll always hold a special place in my heart
The Boyz got tired of Brian's behavior and said enough is enough. Instead of being a productive contributor he became detrimental. Much of the on the edge ambience of Beggars and Let It Bleed reflected Brian's distengration, the uncertainty of the bands future, and their arrests. Most notably Jumping Jack, Sympathy, Stray Cat, Gimme, Midnight and Monkey. All reflected a duality of crossing and recrossing the line into and out of madness.
What a sad, poignant final riff. When the Glimmer Twins realized they had McCartney-Lennon bankability, they squeezed Brian out. His stupefied studio appearances were his way of disengaging from what they had already disengaged him from. Sensitive hurt soul.
Brian Jones fue la piedra angular de los Stones y no se puede explicar la historia musical de ellos sin la influencia musical y el talento de Brian Jones descansa Genio ❤ !!!!
Hmm..poor Brian Jones..pity..help is just a hand away, always remembered for brilliance, co-founder of the Rolling Stones, playing of many interesting instruments including slide guitar...bottle neck guitar..Brian you rock!
@@judithfeustel-buschel5761 Co founder. 3 of the original Stones were together before they met Brian and none of those 3 answered any add as some claim. The came together through Alexis Corner.
So many comments, from so different people!!!!! But ONLY ONE is the truth!!!! Brian Jones was the really STONE..He formed this legendary Band..He was the most talented musician.. Nobody knows what really happened.. Brian Jones is the most famous Rolling Stone until now, and so stays it forever in history!!! RESPECT TO BRIAN JONES 🌟🙏..THE FOUNDER OF THE ROLLING STONES FOREVER IMMORTAL BRIAN 🎸💎👏👏 O
This is the first time i've seen this. Kind of sad when you think he could have just left the band and chose a different way of life. It seems that life within the band got him down, that's why he went the way he did. He should've focussed on what he truly wanted out of life. Maybe he had no time to think. Sad his life had to end the way it did.
I will always love the the stones when Brian was in the group the best songs made from 1963 to 1969 Brian was multi talented all his contributions made a difference Brian was the heart and soul of the stones!
@@waltsudol7198 Jones could not write. he could not sing and he could not dance. Everything he played was under the close direction of The musical composer Keith Richards. most of the accompaniments Jones played on novel instruments were copied either from the sung melody or other instruments in the arrangement. Brian's musical abilities were very limited and his creative input was absolutely non existent. These are observations from the recordings not just opinions.
Brian avez en lui quelque chose de très special, je pense, quelque chose de fort. Je coïncide dans le fait qu'il savait ce qu'il faisat et à quel moment il devrait intervenir, de quelle façon, dans la création.
Read Paul Trynka's book "Brian Jones: The Making of the Rolling Stones." Covers his contributions, his treatment, and where it exactly went wrong in great depth.
Jones musical ability surpassed the imagination of all the other band members combined. They went from great to mediocre when Jones left. Shut up, Mick.
Yeah. That's the most important, and hardest to find, part of the equation. The world's kind of full of people who can play other people's hit songs note for note, but kind of empty of people who can write them.
He could play piano, the xylophone, the recorder, the sitar, the slide guitar, the mellotron, and much more. He just couldn't write hit songs, and Mick and Keith could. Plus, he couldn't handle his drink and drugs. @@williardbillmore5713
+Madboy killaa Charlie Watts said of Jones 'Brian was 2 things. He was not very nice and he upset people very easily. he wasn't very pleasant, I mean.''. At the time, back in '69, I'm sure they did not felt bad about kicking him, in fact it must have been a relief as they were carrying him, his mood swings and his drug addiction for 2 long years. They probably felt remorse because he died 3 weeks later but that wasn't their fault, it was Brian own doing.
@@fenrislegacy u ever stop to think that his mood swings were a result of Keith stealing Anita as well as His band. He had to endure two years of seeing Anita and Keith together in the studio. When he was at the studio, they wud turn his amp off.
@@fenrislegacy no it wasnt. Keith and Mick cud have let him recoup while they toured. Keith knew how bad of a builder Frank Thorogood was, cause he worked for him.....
It sounds like they were all very tight at first. They all lived together in squalor and all. I think Brian got ripped off of co writing credit on several songs ( they did same thing to Mick Taylor ) but I think dying so young kept Brian as what people wsnted him to be. I do think he got bored of guitar but his ability to learn an instrument well enough to play a part is amazing. George Harrison seriously studied sitar. Brian just picked one up to use in studio and is Norwegian Wood really better sitar playing than Paint ot Black?
Brian taught Mick the harmonica and Keith how to play blues guitar, without Brian, their music wouldn't be the same, and what did they give Brian in return? Traitors the lot of them.
With the caveat that it's human nature to say things that would have been better left unsaid, and that it's very easy for celebrities to slip up publicly in light of how often they're interviewed, it's not exactly Keith's finest hour when he admits that his reaction to Brian's death was "Finally.". That was truly a classless thing to say, personal differences and lingering resentments notwithstanding.
Keith was always saying vile things about Brian. "A rotting appendage"? Keith's guitar solo on "Sympathy for the Devil" (1968) was actually a reworking of Brian's steel guitar solo on "I Wanna Be Your Man" (1963), the first British hit ever to feature a steel guitar as the lead instrument, but Keith never mentions Brian playing it way back. Lots of the Stone's best recordings were bolstered by Brian's instrumentation; he absolutely excelled on the mellotron and harmonica. Brian seemed to play almost every instrument over the years, even drums (on Peter and Gordon's "You've Had Better Times") and concert harp (on "On with the Show"). There are lots of unanswered questions (Keith referred Frank Thorogood to Brian after firing Frank for double billing; Keith gave Brian a white powder that made him deathly ill according to Anna Wohlin Brian's live-in girl).
Beautiful slide guitar by Brian, he really was a great musician without drugs, a multi talented cat that was a victim of to many drugs of the wrong kind, one thing for certain (IMO) is Brian was murdered by Frank Thorogood because he was apparently owed money from Brian for work he had done at Brian's home, but Brian found out he was over charging for his services, so he told his accountant to stop payments, this led to an argument the night Brian died, the argument died down and Brian decided to go for a swim, Thorogood held Brian under water until he drowned ( Brian's girl friend was not in the pool when this occurred ) Thorogood admitted this on his death bed, yet many people at the home of Brian's, on the night knew this, but they all left quickly (via back fences etc.) and were frightened to come forward and say what really happened ( for several reasons ) Brian did not die from swimming under the influence of drugs! The official autopsy report said it was death by misadventure, and he had the equivalent of about 3 and a half beers in his system, plus a small amount of other drugs. According to Brian's girl friend at the time, he was happier than he had ever been and had stopped abusing drugs to the point he couldn't function. When Brian's girl friend went to collect all of his belongings from his home, it had been completely cleaned out, all his expensive Persian rugs and valuables gone! We all know who that would have been. A sad loss. R.I.P. Brian Jones
Keith Hall This is how I read it all as well. All I know is that Keith got to keep Brian's cat; don't know who got the rest. Plus I read somewhere that Brian took up an interest in Buddhism before he died; his life was taking on a different turn though without The Stones; I haven't read anywhere that he was harboring any bitterness towards the group.
Bonnie Magpie He was in to Buddism, he also had 'cleaned up' from getting 'out of it' on drugs, according to his girlfriend. None of 'The Stones' held any grudges, in fact Mick Jagger cried because he was so upset about Brian's death. He was happy to be out of the group so he could pursue his own musical direction, I also know none of 'The Stones' had any grudges, they had nothing to do with Brian's death, they are only rumors about them poisoning him or whatever.
+Ziggy “Frappanised” Zappada I think Brian faked it as he was the father of five children out of wedlock, with four different women, at twenty three and likely was under severe paternity scrutiny. If not, Brian had severe asthma from sickness as a child. I can tell you from my own experiences that it is very easy for an asthmatic to drown especially, if in the water alone. I have read that Thorogood had confessed to the Stones driver that he had drowned Brian, but i think he faked it and probably became some anonymous chemist or something.
I really feel for him- latterly he always looked so alone,its soo sad to watch. Mick & Keith are bastards,they've spun this story about him being" the author of his own misfortune" for so long now,they probably believe it. And I dont buy that Charlie cant remember what happened when they fired him; he's choosing not to remember because he feels guilty. They were hugely complicit in his demise & I hope it haunts them. No Jones,no Stones.
@@user-wc6pw8oh6v "Jive on you hazy paramount". Love Syd Barrett. Yes, I'd agree...no Jones, no Stones...no Syd, No Floyd......and I'd also add...no Layne, no Alice In Chains.
Seriously? Brian couldn’t tour, because of drug conviction. Didn’t show up for rehearsal, when he did, was gone on drugs. The man didn’t care. We’ve all worked with someone like this....excuse after excuse....time for him to go. As far as wrong kind of drugs, we’ve all seen that before also. Yes Brian was awesome, but when he quit contributing, a lot of people were being let down by him, he didn’t care.....I wouldn’t have put up with him as long as the stones did. I would have fired him 2 years earlier.
@@mikeskoog6689 kind of hard to quit the band you founded. He was ostracized by alo and jagger richards. 3's a crowd. He could have sued, his name his band, for thousands if not millions. They wanted him out contributing or not. Why would keith pull a knife on him. The cops never found out.
Jone's advertised for and created the Stones - but like Leon Trosky - The Creator was destroyed by his own Creation. Unlike Watts and Wyman - Jagger & Richards were already mates before the Stones & would always have been planning Jone's downfall - this was Brian's naive mistake.
Jagger & Richards admired Brian at first. Then the jealousy and greed came. & They conspired to steal the band. Then a few weeks later he "drowns" in his own pool. Hmmm they probably paid someone to kill him.
Jagger summed Brian up with impeccable accuracy; "He was the author of his own misfortunes". I have always said that he was his own worst enemy. No one hurt Brian like he hurt himself.
Brian was the most talented rolling stone. He with some help from Ian Stewart founded the band. Keith stole his girlfriend and with Mick kicked him out of the band. Yes, Mick and Keith could have done more to help him. From everything I've heard they weren't very nice to Brian. I think this was a tragedy that could have been averted. RIP Brian
why would they help him when they did everything to distroy him. those two are avreage musicians,Brian was brilliant musician. They needed either to destroy him or always be in his shadow. They prefer more average Rollingstones with two of them over briliant Rolling stones with Brian or Mick Taylor in it.
He was not "fired" by Keith for "using too many drugs". He was asked to leave because he simply could not function as the brilliant musician the Stones needed and relied on him to be. He could not keep up his end of the responsibility he made to the others. Period! Did you not listen to what Mick said especially? Was it drugs? Of course, but it certainly was not the only cause of Brian's undoing. It upset's me too, he was brilliant as a musician, extraordinary, but quite lousy as a bandmate. Too self involved.
Cee Jay Absolutely brilliant man,a trend setter and fantastic musician,he helped shape the decade of the 1960's and many emulated him.Mick has said "fame doesn't rest well on anyone's shoulders" and goes on to state that it did not set well with Brian at all.He needed psychotherapy,not drugs,but unfortunately no one knew much about drug use back then.What a loss to the world when he died.
@@ceejay1794 ANOTHER ISSUE THAT WAS GOING ON WAS THAT THE STONES WANTED TO TOUR AMERICA AND BRIANS DRUG CONVICTIONS FROM 67 FOR CANNABIS AND COCAINE PROVED TO BE DIFFICULT FOR HIM TO GET A VISA INTO THE STATES. THEY NEEDED ANOTHER GUITARIST AND ONE WITH THE ENERGY FOR CONCERTS AS CONCERTS WERE BECOMING VERY BIG IN THE STATES ABOUT THAT TIME AND BRIAN DID NOT HAVE THAT RAW ENERGY THEY WERE LOOKING FOR FOR THEY TOLD BRIAN THAT HE WOULD STILL BE A PART OF THE BAND WHEN IT CAME TO STUDIO SESSIONS AND LAYING DOWN TRACKS BUT DEEP DOWN THEY KNEW THAT BRIAN WAS NEVER GOING TO AGREE TO THIS AND FROM WHAT I HEARD, LATER ON HE CAME OUT AND SAID THAT IT WAS HE WHO WAS LEAVING EVEN THOUGH MICK AND KEITH GAVE HIM THE BOOT AND THAT IS HOW I HEARD IT BUT I COULD BE WRONG BUT NOT ON ALL OF IT.
Nobody would deny that Brian was a brilliant musician, and he contributed so much to the Stones. But in my opinion (just mine), the best RS era was with Mick Taylor.
Brian started the Stones Mick and Keith fucked Brian over big time Keith stole Anita from Brian and Brian lost it from all the betrail RIP MR BRIAN JONES
