Bringing Up DID/OSDD to a Therapist and Major Red Flags

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This question is asked all the time in our community, and so we thought we could share some of our advice and experiences with the subject.
Remember: Therapy is for YOU and if you or your system don't feel heard, supported, or safe, the therapist isn't the right one for you :)
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@dmckeeth 4 года назад

This was the first of your videos I found. I cannot thank you, your system, and those that collaborate on these videos enough. I've watched many of them now. They have been extremely informational, validating, and helped me understand why I'm so "different." DID is the only diagnosis I was even vaguely aware of prior. It was in watching your videos I learned about OSDD 1A. I'm over 40 and am both terrified and curious to find out what is really going on in my head. Thanks to you I researched therapists and lead with "I think I might have OSDD 1A. Do you feel qualified to guide me in exploring this?" I'm so grateful we didn't waste time. Thank you, for all you do.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'm so proud of you, and I'm so glad we could help you along your journey. I literally can't express how much comments like this mean to us, you guys are literally why we do this work. I hope you find a therapist that validates all of you and helps everyone on their paths to healing. Stay strong and have a good day 💙

@sa.m3070 5 месяцев назад

Good vídeo, thanks

@aaronschneider8059 4 года назад

This also doesn't just go for DID and related disorders! This goes for anything you're bringing it up!

@something_strange3086 3 года назад

Truth! I brought up tourette syndrome to a neurologist and I've had a diegnosis since April

@DrShawnHorn 3 года назад

YES!

@WeAreAlexandra 4 года назад

God the "you can't have this because you researched it" hits too close to home. Great video, guys!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Thanks! :) RU-vid somehow threw this in "likely spam" oops, but I found it :)

@WeAreAlexandra 4 года назад

Damn, there goes my plan to spam y'all :P

@quazymodo3648 4 года назад

I have this as an issue because of my severe distrust in humans i always research the shit out of everything i usually know what my diagnosis is before i ask for help i just dont tell them most of the time at currently i know i have a disociative disorder im not sure how severe but find comfort when i say we than i and i have cptsd for sure

@mimis7766 3 года назад

@@quazymodo3648 We also research the HELL out of stuff. We look at symptoms, causes, stuff that can happen when you have it, and when we started coming across DID/OSDD stuff and realized that we had a lot of symptoms and stuff, we started freaking out a bit. Now we are 99.9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999% sure that we have it. After what happened with our mother, though (scroll up/down whatever to see it), we haven't brought it up to anyone because she was the person we trusted most, especially when it came to stuff about us.

@YiPeaches 4 года назад

"If you're having severe dissociation symptoms, it's a high likelihood that you're a trauma survivor; which mean you have a very good gut for these sort of things." Gosh, I didn't realize how badly my system needed to hear that, even though I already know. Thank you!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

❤️❤️❤️❤️

@Notebook_System Год назад

When I brought up DID and ASD with my therapist I was told it was medical students' disease (where you believe you have a disease or disorder because you are learning about it) because I'm a clinical psychology major. Truth is I was brave enough to bring it up because I learned it in classes. Our system has grown since I was initially shut down and we're nervous to bring it up again. Hopefully we'll be able to bring it up again one day :)

@NarwhalAcademy Год назад

Some of us are therapists (figuring that one out still 🙃 I think myself and one headmate) and the headmate figured it out in grad school … the stigma in the field is exhausting. I have started challenging coworkers (but am not ready to tell them and who knows may never be) because they don’t know it but they say things about systems not realizing they’re sitting right next to one. Some of them are open to challenges. Others seem to really believe that it’s impossible and I will say I do find myself wanting to blurt out “I guess we’re not real then” when that happens. The stigma is so high. And a lot of it is TAUGHT. We were taught in diagnosis class that it’s “so much more likely” that we’d have someone taking a system than actually have one. And we were only taught about DID. I didn’t learn about OSDD until I started looking into it myself

@minute-maids 4 года назад

This helped us so much. Some of my alters reaaaally don't like my therapist and I didn't listen, which is horrible on my part. Thank you for sharing this. I, personally, needed to hear this to help me understand why some of my alters didn't trust my therapist.

@AuriellaMonroe 4 года назад

wings flutter One of my alters definitely does not like my therapist. To the point if she’s out on appointment day, she will sabotage us by goofing around making us so late that we miss the appointment altogether. Then the rest of us are really upset after. 🤦‍♀️

@TheClergyGamer 4 года назад

Hey Silver, just watched this video and I had to comment on it. I’m am so blessed with my current therapist. She diagnosed me quickly, but beyond that she is system herself! She gets it! And her supervisor is an expert in DID/OSDD! I could not be in better hands. Good ones are out there, but it’s taken years for one to figure out what was going on inside me.

@-homechord-2908 4 года назад

Woah damn, having a system as a therapist. That would be so comforting, omg. Wow.

@vivianriver6450 3 года назад

Imagine walking into a therapist's office and describing how you're hurting with gender dysphoria and having them listen and say, "I don't know why you're here. There's nothing wrong with you! "

@randompasserbyer 4 года назад

Our protector gave our therapist a sort of test by saying it was a friend who had it and describing their symptoms and she said they were faking it and that they were just "transgendering" and that it was easier to say it was DID rather than trans. She was telling me that people with DID usually can't tell they have it and that it's their family that point it out rather than them knowing it. And when we brought up a RU-vidr who _has_ been diagnosed with DID who talks about it and explains everything, she dismissed them too. We're still using her for our system's depression and trying to see if we're also bipolar (not sure about it but it's a possibility), but we're not telling her about our alters.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so sorry you had that experience. You deserve the best, and that includes therapy! I really want to validate that you can totally begin the search for the new therapist if you want, but I understand getting what you can out of them for now ❤️

@mimis7766 3 года назад

Hopefully you can get a therapist who is helpful for you guys.... One a similar note, though, to hopefully brighten your day, our protector would've wrecked the hell out of them, verbally ofc. In fact, there were a few times where Roxy has practiced in the shower, in case someone does that to us.....

@solveigrose5537 3 года назад

Wow. This is SO scary. I mean, by now, all the world should know about these sentences like "I have a friend of mine, and she/he etc." - this is the typical, now bordering to conventional introduction to a test!! The fact she didn't get it is super frustrating. Right now I'm thinking: doesn't she watch comedy, at all?!! That genre is full of stories like these and every sensible person should know it's okay to ask about things that aren't easy to say using a false friend's story when it's truly your own. Really?!🤦🏼‍♀️ Sorry for the rant, hope you'll find a decently clever therapist soon 🙄

@OneandonlyFoxxy 4 года назад

Perfect timing. Thank you very much. I once had a therapist who told me ,, No, you can't have XY because your Trauma was too late in your life. " and I was so shocked and freezed. My new therapist refused to give me a diagnosis at all and I am so confused. On friday I will see him and hope I will find the power to ask about osdd/did.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Good luck!! I believe in you!

@OneandonlyFoxxy 4 года назад

It went pretty well. Although he is talking about ,, modi" and ,, parts". Mostly because we went thru schema therapy with him. But it was okay to us and we felt validated. I/we are not sure ourselfes if ,,alters" would be the right word or if it truly is Osdd-1b. The never ending story about feeling like faking. But your channel helped us a lot! Thank you. 💙

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'm glad I could help ❤️

@jessep4460 4 года назад

It is true that you can't develop did/osdd after a certain age, but it depends on how you mature. The true cut off is probably about 10 years old

@kendylhippe9368 4 года назад

Dear Rings System, My therapist is suggesting that all of the alters apart of my system integrate. (This is the ONLY option she is suggesting) But, most of us (including me) do not want to integrate and would prefer us to be separate because it is all we have ever known. My therapist is suggesting the idea that the alters split off of the host (me) due to trauma. But according to Structural Dissociation, there is no "original". We just failed to integrate to into one personality because of trauma. She also says that EVERYONE has alters. I feel as if alters are too strong of a word and should be called "parts OF self" (Suggesting that these parts are WITHIN ONE personality. We each have different roles, personalities, ages, likes, and dislikes, etc. I feel as if she doesn't take the others as seriously and doesn't treat them like me as a person, a part, and an alter. Since I am the host and go by the body's name she calls them MY alters. But you and I know that this is simply not true. How would I go about: a) telling her that we oppose integration b) telling her that they are just as valid as me I know that this is a lot to take in. Any suggestions on how to handle communicating with our therapist about all of this? ~Kendyl

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Hmm. With all honesty, if I was in your situation I would probably seek help elsewhere. You've stated here that shes' said things that are not only incorrect, but have probably made you and your system uncomfortable - and there's no reason you have to stay with her or try to work to get her to understand these things. If you do have to stay with her for any of many reasons, I'd suggest telling her simply but firmly "Integration is not something that we want in our treatment plan. We've talked it over and are not willing to progress down that road, and are uncomfortable that you keep trying to push this on us. Furthermore, I am intensely uncomfortable by how you treat the rest of the alters - I am an alter just like them, and am not any more important or real than the rest. I feel like you're not treating us the way we are or giving us respect. I am also uncomfortable by the fact that you've suggested that everyone experiences things just like those with severe dissociative disorders, by the fact that you said "everyone has alters." Even if I don't have this disorder, it's unacceptable for those who have been diagnosed to treat their disorder as if it was not real and applicable to everyone." Feel free to reword that or change it however you'd like!! and I wish you the best on your journey. Feel free to reach out if anything else comes up ❤️

@silentgrove7670 4 года назад

Another factor on discussing systems is how covert the system is. Covert systems do not want to be discovered, the point was to keep us safe after all. I began to question the DID thing with a therapist in my early 30s. It was brushed aside. Its 20 years later and understanding of this condition is more apparent in professionals. I think it is hard for non DIDs to believe something like this exists because it is impossible to imagine a mind could work so differently. It is rather obvious you have a system as your pronouns are us, we, our. That isn't something I see in people without systems. Self concept is based within a collective not a singular. When I am showing signs of shifting my pronouns will change still to this day. Its rare but it does still happen.

@megankay3227 2 года назад

I tend to use "us" "we" and all that when I am in high stress times. Or if I "recognize" my inner world while at work for example. Otherwise I say "I". I should say that I never or rarely say "we" to any other person outside when I am alone.

@TheIcyFireFTW 4 года назад

I usually slip between believing fully that I have OSDD-1b and believing that I must be faking it. Counsellors suspected a dissasociation disorder, but when I brought up my 'alter' Sera, who's very co-con with me I guess, they started thinking she was just an imaginary friend. But it feels like more than that? Like, I think if you have an imaginary friend then you know and can control them or make them stop but with Sera she has her own voice, and sometimes I feel like I can't move my body and only she can. I want to bring it up with a Therapist or a GP but I'm not sure how to go about it, or if I'll be dismissed as faking it, or finding out that Sera is actually just made up by me.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

It’s really hard to bring it up! Talk about your experiences - a good starting point is how you explained them here! Good luck 💕❤️

@AurelUrban 4 года назад

I went to my ex-therapist for something over a year and then I took a break. during that time I started researching OSDD and it clicked and I immediately knew I had to schedule a session as soon as possible and talk to her about it. reasons why that session was our last one: 1) she didn't know what OSDD-1b was 2) when I talked about my alters in 3rd person she kept correcting me to 1st person 3) she said in a very condescending way "but you know they're all just you, right?" plus what I realised she did before: 4) she believed my father more than myself about the emotional abuse he inflected on me 5) she wasn't transparent about what she thought was going on with me 6) she never explained or properly elaborated on my symptoms I described to her I wanna add that fortunately I did research and found a therapist that proved to be good for us so far :) she takes what I say at face value and doesn't argue with me about the validity of my alters. unfortunately she can't diagnose me cause that's the system here, we need a separate psychologist for diagnosis, so we can't be sure we'll get a proper diagnosis on paper any time soon.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Thank you for sharing 💕

@AurelUrban 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem your previous videos on therapy and therapists helped me a lot in identifying the problems with my old therapist tbh! ^-^ if I didn't do my own research I wouldn't have known she's not good for me

@mimis7766 3 года назад

I (Roxy, the protector) would've cursed the SHIT out of her and gone off on a tangent..........

@stellarcascade7550 4 года назад

I highly dislike my host’s therapist for some of these exact red flags. Thank you for this video- it has been educational!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

You're welcome! I'd suggest talking to your host about your therapist's red flags if apparent. You all deserve to be recognized as who you are and treated properly ❤️

@stellarcascade7550 4 года назад

The Rings System, hello! This is the host, Jude. I’m happy to say we have since left that therapist. Blake, the one that left the comment, did end up reaching out to me and the others- we collectively decided it was time to go. Thank you so much for your kindness! It was a very pleasant surprise.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'm glad you guys had that conversation and were able to work it out! I hope you find a therapist that's good for everyone in the system :)

@taoailu1100 4 года назад

Thank you so much for making this video. I'm starting therapy very soon and I've been horribly anxious about telling them I may have OSDD/DID, despite having done research for months about it and being 100% certain I have it (when not in denial). Your advice helped me feel more calm and ready for that experience, however it turns out! Thank you!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I glad I could help 💕💕

@SK-iu2pe 4 года назад

Beginning to wonder if theres *any* good therapists in this area.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

mood. I hope you find one ❤️

@biirdrot 4 года назад

We plan on taking a notebook filled with notes to our next session to try and explain our symptoms & system(we are an undiagnosed OSDD-1b System) to my therapist (she doesn’t know we’re a system, and we’ve been hesitant to tell her for a while), and hopefully she’ll understand, and be willing to work with us! Thank you for giving us ideas on how to tell our therapist! -The Star System

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Good luck!!! ❤️💕

@Maria-qd7jl 4 года назад

I’m so glad you made this video. I tried to talk to my therapist about it, but some of my alters didn’t really want to and I couldn’t actually tell the therapist all the details and things I have been experiencing. My therapist said that it was just stress and one of my persecutor in my system really made our life hell for a week. I haven’t been there for a couple weeks now.

@chrisn8703 4 года назад

^ This. I finally got up the guts to tell our therapist and after his response was that the folks in my head were imaginary, the next week was really rough.

@patchwork1157 4 года назад

Bro, this happened with a friend of mine. It’s more damaging then people realize.

@MooLovesYoutube 4 года назад

I perfectly agree :”) I had to do this when I was getting help for my DID. I dealt with some mental health professionals who didn’t know or didn’t believe in DID/OSDD. It’s scary, but totally worth it. Don’t stick with a bad therapist

@wandabednarski1306 3 года назад

I personally believe I might have DID (we have ICD-10 here in FInland so there's no OSDD or DDNOS). I've done some online tests, and they give me high points, but also I've had dissociative episodes. I dissociate pretty much every or every other day. And only two of them were weird, like... The first one. I felt as if I was watching things through a screen, audio was going in and out and my sight was weird. I heard muffled talking and I lost track of time. And the second one was last week. I was chatting with a friend on Snapchat and I was writing a letter to my mom. Suddenly, I forgot what I wrote in the letter, and it read "Even though I'm a child" when I was supposed to write "Even though I'm almost 19". And after that, I wrote "I feel like I'm 6 years old again. I feel like I'm a 6-year-old in an adult's body with a sense of an adult." And for some reason, that triggered me. I started to act and talk like kid, but I felt like... myself but at the same time, not myself. It was so weird. The friend who I was chatting with might have DID. I asked them what the heck happened and they told me that you were being like a kid. "Maybe age regression? Little alter?" And I'm somewhat freaking out. I'm dissociating right now lol. I dissociated a lot yesterday. And during the dissociation, I saw a woman in my mind. Black hair, dark blue eyes... It was so, so weird. And guess what. I can't find any information or blogs about DID in Finnish. I also brought this up last week when I was at my psychiatrist. We were talking about my trauma and I almost fainted, I dunno why...

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope discovering what’s going on goes smoothly 💕

@calonlocke9147 4 года назад

i'm one of those people who have figured it out before professionals have, and have tried to bring up thinking i have DID to a couple therapists before - one of which told me to get lost because i couldn't be medicated and that was all he cared about, and another that said all my issues would be fixed when i moved house (which is really weird, honestly), so i'm very leery of therapists and am having trouble with the idea of trying to seek out someone else, but i think i might try the seeking out help for more general trauma and the dissociation associated with that first this video is really good especially the red flags section, it's kinda hard to take that control sometimes but definitely very important! - Calon of the Locke System

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so proud of you for considering seeking help after those experiences!! It sounds like a lot and honestly traumatizing to be told that by professionals. Remember you always have the control and power in these situations, and if you’re comfortable you always deserve to use that ability to feel comfortable in therapy settings (and actually get good therapy!!) If you need any support or have any questions during the process don’t hesitate to reach out 💕💕❤️

@havendidit 4 года назад

When I was 17 and vulnerable, my therapist told me that I didn't actually have anxiety or depression. 4 years later finally got an official diagnosis. So screw you old therapists. Currently on a waiting list for my fourth therapist and hoping that they'll be less sucky than all my past ones. Thanks for this helpful video! Back then I just assumed my therapists knew better than I and repressed everything for years until a close friend told me he was concerned. Hopefully have much better self awareness now, but I'm also thinking I might have OSDD so there's that bonus as well. Glad to know the red flags in advance instead of in hindsight.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I hope it works out with your new therapist!! :)

@havendidit 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem Thanks!

@lewisford7438 4 года назад

Thank you Silver & Co, we're going to be assessed on Friday so this is helpful advice and info even at this early stage Mona The Phoenix System 🖤 💛 🧡 ❤️ 💜 ❤️ 🧡 💛 🖤

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Good luck on Friday!!! 💕❤️

@lewisford7438 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem thank you!!!

@GhostHamsters 4 года назад

Thank you so much for saying it's a red flag if they tell you you can't have DID the second you open up about it. I tried this before, saying that I sometimes feel like I'm split into multiple people and my former therapist went on an impulsive anger rant on how I don't have DID. After she saw me for the third time. I never went back. But she triggered me so much we still struggle doing any therapy for this reason ever again. But we want to try next year. First have to get some medical stuff out of the way.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so sorry you went through that, it really sounds traumatizing ❤️ I’m proud of you for maybe wanting to try again and if you need any support you can always reach out :)

@GhostHamsters 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem thank you for offering! ❤ that's so kind of you! Part of me really wants to take your offer but we're not even close to seeking a new therapist. So~ ^^ Here's something like a DID help center/organisation. I don't know how to translate it into english. Online it says they help people with DID or who suspect it, to find help and therapy. So we thought going there next year after we sorted our physical health out. One thing at a time to reduce the stress. But it's so so scary to even think about it. Anyway. Haha thanks for the kind words and offer! I bet we will watch your video a couple of times before we really go there. It helps to know the red flags. It's not us then, it's them.

@SarafinaSummers Год назад

My therapist did that.

@nirvanarose6993 4 года назад

Thanks for all you do. It's really helpful to hear that even if you disassociate, you should trust your instincts. Sometimes trusting yourself is even harder than trusting someone else's opinion. I'm so grateful that you share.

@cometking4368 4 года назад

This is perfect timing that you post this now, actually! I have my session tomorrow, and I’ve been wanting to bring it up, but I’m honestly terrified to. I often doubt myself, so it’s just hard to see anyone believing me when I hardly believe myself. This was very helpful though!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Good luck!! 💕

@cometking4368 4 года назад

The Rings System Thank you!💕

@cherrymcgillicuddy6300 4 года назад

Second session diagnosis...bpd. Bring up did/osdd symptoms: impossible.

@jessep4460 4 года назад

Ditto, it seems a lot of therapists are quick to diagnose bpd

@talacocheta9001 4 года назад

It sounds like that therapist isn't one who should work with systems. I'd try to find a different therapist in that case.

@theblanketfortcohort7332 4 года назад

Oh I've had a few well-meaning but awful therapists. I don't know if what I have is OSDD or not, but for the sake of simplicity I'll just say this- what I believe to be my major trauma holder was in front when my psych nurse at the time came round. He was having a panic attack. Bare in mind nobody had ever shown themselves to her before, it was just me advocating for them the whole time. So he was, you know, having a panic attack, and she made it worse by REFUSING to call him by his name. She completely ignored his distress, and the only words exchanged between them were: "I'm Nathaniel, I'm the trauma holder" To which she kept replying "No, you're (insert my birth name here)" He was in tears. She kept asking what's wrong, but made it a point to use my birth name (disrespecting my gender too!) Over and over. "What's wrong?" You. They all seemed to think I was incredibly delusional but they didn't even tell my mother that, never mind me. It was, in itself, another traumatic experience. Don't let people give you the excuse of "we didn't want to risk reinforcing a delusion" or cr*p like that. That is NOT how you treat someone in the midst of a delusion anyway. If you don't feel respected by them, drop them. It's taken me this long to stop denying that something is very wrong with my head, and that denial was caused by these mental health 'professionals'. Trust your gut.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'm so sorry to hear you guys had that experience. Sending so much love ❤️

@awhmymichelle1708 4 года назад

3:09 I fear my "psychologist" will tell me I'm just making myself think like that and I'm just confused of who I am.. I tried telling her of those voices I hear in my mind that are my own and she tells me it's an inner monologue or something she tells me it's my subconsciousness telling me all these things and I have to learn how to silence it and replace it with positive thoughts. I tried that I really gave it my all but when I did everything went crazy. The voice started screaming and got really angry and started saying really rude and unexpecting words and calling me/myself down and o tried thinking "ok michelle control yourself you can do this just breathe and relax" everything went crazy again then in an instant I was watching from my mind again and I started throwing everything around I started pitching around everything I own in my room and after it was all a mess I laid down and I laid there for around 30 minutes thinking and thinking.. then another voice appeared that tried consoling me. Is my psychologist right? Is it my subconscious talking? Because the voices sound like my very own voice sometimes a little different but it is my voice. Also this really confuses me. I feel I may have DID but where would it come from? I've been through mo trauma that i can remember. I went into a childcare home when i was 4-7 years old and grandpa always scared me and grandma was always very mean. What frightens me about those years is that if anything really severe happened any abuse since I was so little my mind could have blocked it out and forgot about it. In my childhood I couldn't ever really Express my feelings without it getting brushed away by other opinions or problems of my family members.. Are these voices my subconscious is there a way to tell? Will meditation help me "fix" it if it's my subconscious? "Let's not jump to conclusions you searched this up you probably dont have it" *what if she says this to me* -------------------------------------------- Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh y'know I'm probably just freaking out. Should I ignore this and go on with my life and wait for it to possibly get worse? Since there may be a chance im actually just freaking myself out

@awhmymichelle1708 4 года назад

My psychologist got hired by the government for our community

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

"I had this one moment that I wasn't in my body but I was in my body watching my body do things that I would consider normal like washing the dishes, driving, eating, watching a movie. It would somehow feel like I was watching myself from my mind if that makes sense. I was watching from my mind again" These things you describe here are dissociative experiences. Being unable to control your body and watching yourself do things you don't want to do and have no control over is not a neurotically experience. I don't want to say "you have x disorder" because that's not my place, but I can reassure you that these experience are more than "your subconscious talking to you" or 'your inner monologue.' 2. You don't need to know what caused it or what happened to be valid or to have DID. We've been diagnosed for years and still don't know what caused it. My best advice here is to not worry about it, and it'll become clear and make sense in the future after you've spend time trying to put the pieces together. Your first steps should be to stabilize yourself, and learn more about yourself(ves). 3. "Are these voices my subconscious is there a way to tell?" again, voices in your subconscious are different phenomenon than dissociative experiences. What you've described of not being in control of your body is a dissociative experience, which is different than voices in your subconscious. 4. "Let's not jump to conclusions you searched this up you probably dont have it" what if she says this to me" If ANY psychologist or therapist says you cannot have something because you've done research, you go find another therapist. You just walk out of their office and leave. Flat out. People with mental illness are smart, intelligent people who surprisingly have access to google, and honestly you SHOULD be doing your own research. A good therapist will encourage your learning and then compare notes with you. If someone says this to you, it has nothing to do with your validity and everything to do with them being a bad psychologist. Don't ignore this. Your health is important and you deserve a therapist that listens to you and doesn't dismiss what you experience. If you want to keep trying with this one, go for it. But if she continues to make claims that you must be experiencing x or cannot have y, and you feel uncomfortable talking with her, seek help elsewhere. In the mean time, I'd recommend you do some reading about DID and other dissociative disorders. did-research.org talks mostly about DID, but a lil about other dissociative disorders traumadissociation.com talks about multiple times of dissociative disorders. I'd recommend reading about DID and DPDR :) Good luck and don't hesitate to reach out if you need support ❤️

@aidanmelendez3606 Год назад

Hi, Aidan here! Thank you so much for this video. I’m thinking I have OSDD, and because of you I made a slide show presentation to show my therapist. I’m seeing her today. I’ll update after I see her. Update: It’s been a few days since I showed her and it went great! Thank you so much for this video, I never would have thought to make a presentation

@tealie5966 4 года назад

I’m terrified of going to a therapist, I honestly don’t want to get diagnosed because of this fear. Anyone have any tips for getting over this fear? Do I even need to get over this fear?

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Hmm, the best advice I have is to remember that you are in control, and that if any therapist says something like this to you right off the bat that you can just leave, and their opinion doesn't matter. I'd say if you can, trying to work on it would probably be good - seeing a good therapist has done wonders for us, and there's so many things they can help with that aren't integration if that's not your thing! ❤️

@serenediipity Год назад

really appreciate returning to this video. we recently came out to our therapist thinking it went well, but the next session he quickly shut down our experiences and even wanted to force final fusion on us. in case we do find a new therapist (which is likely), hopefully they’ll be more understanding and a better match for us

@333Eriana 2 года назад

i had a really terrible doctor sit and talk to me for 20 minutes and diagnose me -with some thing i don't have. i have medical experience and i reported his ass. The best doctor and i respected him immensely said - i don't prescribe meds or diagnose until i have talked to you for 3 months - 2 hour s every week. Bravo.

@Drmorganaurora 4 года назад

Another excellent video, Silver! You rock. This is so, so important. Shopping for a therapist is so hard, and I love that you address the red flags of a bad therapist. It doesn’t get enough attention. ❤️

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Thanks ❤️

@Lisalis7 4 года назад

Thanks for this video! I appreciate this from two angles. The first as someone who has experienced dissociation before having a better understanding of the spectrum, and two as a new professional myself. I never want anyone experiencing these types of symptoms to have a reason to leave therapy because I said the wrong thing. I believe dissociation and dissociative disorders are real and valid!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Thanks for supporting our community! :)

@mistwalker11 9 месяцев назад

I think those videos are very useful, thank you so much for making them. I can see how much effort and courage you put in. I really appreciate your effort. :)

@selene5100 4 года назад

This could not have come at a better time! We’ve been struggling to get into a professional to be diagnosed (I don’t know if I can accept this without someone on the outside saying its actually happening). This helped me feel a little bit more confident. Thank you ❤️

@beverlywithey1347 4 года назад

I'm sorry you had to have those experiences to bring you to this wisdom. The value of the help it will give as you share it, is now priceless 💖🍀 More power to you 💖🍀🙌🙌

@FreckledPapaya 4 года назад

Thanks so much for making this! Not sure if I am part of a system or not but the constant oscillation between fear of being a faker or liar and fear of being in a system makes it so hard to know how to approach this in a healthy way without being at the total whim of the therapists opinion

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'd recommend lots of research! did-research.org and traumadissociation.com are good starting points :)

@FreckledPapaya 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem thanks! I've looked at some of these before but I think it was before there was OSDD info? Or maybe it was because I didn't know to look for that. Your emotional amnesia vid really resonated with me but it's possible that's just from other kinds of dissociation. Thanks so much for making these vids anyways

@chloem.872 4 года назад

Thank you for this video. I've had a lot of bad therapists before, all of whom I didn't even get the chance to approach this subject with. But I do have a therapist now who I am speaking with about this. Your video has helped me realized that I was right to feel that she is worlds away from the others in terms of the potential for a healthy therapeutic relationship. My problem is that when I try to express my experiences, it seems that something gets in the way. I don't know why or what it is, but I rarely can come up with a full picture of what is happening. If I write it down, I may forget that I even wrote it, and if I do come back to it, I may forget what the heck I was talking about and be unable to explain. I'm so afraid that I will be unable to participate in this relationship in a way that facilitates the type of healing that I need. But maybe I should just say so and ask for help. What a thought! Thank you so much for posting this video. I will definitely be watching more.

@VsRawr 4 года назад

I'm so happy you've made this video. This has helped me gain a lot of bravery around this subject... I've been questioning about the possibility of having osdd and your videos and channel has made me feel a lot more valid..(this video along with the trauma one) So thank you.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I'm so glad we could help ❤️

@KaylinsCorner 4 года назад

Hi, I’ve watched this video about three times in a row now. After trying and failing to bring this up with out last therapist, we’re much more confident for this next attempt. Thank you for the content you put out! It’s so helpful and easy to understand! 💕

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so glad we could help ❤️

@ifreelife-art6956 4 года назад

Thanks you so much for your videos! it helps so much to know about how it feels for other people to have OSDD and understand that we're not alone and everything is okay, thanks

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

❤️ I'm so glad they're helping so much!

@adrienne05 2 года назад

I had recently told my therapist about my suspicions of having DID and they said to me "don't tell me you looked it up on google." That really hurt me because I had been questioning for about a year now. (and had been researching as much as I could possibly do. I wouldn't just come out of the blue with this.) I don't even want to talk to her about it anymore. I'm planning to get a new therapist and will hopefully bring it up to them.

@oliviyeves 4 года назад

Lovely video, so helpful since I have my third session at the end of the month :)

@ajtaylorr 4 года назад

We just stumbled across your channel, and this has been a tremendous help! Especially this video. When discussing alters with my therapist, she brushed it off as psychosis (even when the first alter existed at an age where psychosis would be HIGHLY unlikely), and told me everyone had different parts of a personality and that it didn't mean I had OSDD, even when I explained her that my alters co-front with me a lot, enough to tell for some people who know us well. So finding this channel, and especially this video, was so relieving and made us feel a lot calmer about the whole situation. Just gotta find someone who won't shut us down in ten seconds. Thank you so much for making videos that are so informative and helpful! ☺

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope finding a therapist goes well!! Sorry to hear about the first dismissing your experiences. Good luck, and I'm glad our videos helped you feel calmer about it! :)

@ajtaylorr 3 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem Thank you all so much! :)

@misstyata 4 года назад

You responded to my comment in another of your videos about faking yesterday. I just wanted to say that thanks to this video, I think I have the courage to follow your advice, and bring this up to my therapist again

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Of course!! I hope it goes well with your therapist ❤️❤️

@misstyata 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem Unfortunately it didn't. I called their office to confirm my appointment was tomorrow, and they told me they'd cancelled it weeks ago, and the next avaliable isn't until mid June :'(

@AuriellaMonroe 4 года назад

Omg this has been something we’ve been struggling with. I’ve been in therapy for over a year with the same therapist & have wanted to bring these concerns up for a long time. We’ve even planned to the last few months of sessions, but it’s like every time, as soon as we get there, we get so much anxiety & just hide behind our apparently normal alter. Like lose all memory of even wanting to bring it up. Then I leave & we’re all like whyyy didn’t you address this?? So frustrating! But this is really helpful, thank you!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

It’s been helpful for us to write things down and bring them into therapy (and then hand them to our therapist). Maybe that would help? Good luck and I hope the issues are resolved ❤️

@mimis7766 3 года назад

So for the part around 3:30 on the video, she's talking about how we are afraid that they'll say those sort of things, but the sad truth is, our own mother said it earlier tonight. Usually, she's pretty accepting, but when Mimi (our host) tried to talk to her about possibly having OSDD, because we brought up getting diagnosed and stuff a couple days ago, and she was like "I don't know what that even is". So Mimi started explaining to her what it was and then she cut her off and went " Wait you mean that split personality sh*t? You do not have that." And Mimi tried telling her, but she refused to listen. Mimi felt like crying and then Roxy, our protector, came out. The only reason she calmed down was because we started a tv show so we could lose ourselves in the plotline and allow another alter to take control. I hate that this happened, but I hope that she still will let us visit a therapist so we can prove her wrong...

@mimis7766 3 года назад

Ok but the thing is Mimi already had a problem trusting herself with the fact that we might have this. This really triggered her to nearly spiral, but then she got distracted trying to keep Rox at bay.

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

*sends so many hugs and good vibes* I’m so sorry to hear that. Y’all deserve so much better, to be understood and heard. I hope you get the care you receive, and your relationship with your mother can improve (if you want that) 💕

@mimis7766 3 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem Thank you. We will get to see a therapist, because we also have ADHD, anxiety and stuff, but we are going to bring it up whenever we start going, since we found one that works with dissociative disorders. And we are on the fence... Most of he alters in our system want our relationship with our mom, especially Mimi, but Roxy is very concerned about us, because some of our trauma was caused at home (but not by her. By our sisters.)

@xx-sof-xx Год назад

We've been feeling so hopeless about therapy, not gonna lie. It's always been a mess and we never feel safe or comfortable even telling the truth. We've got an internal struggle going on about believing in therapy and not believing in it. It's hard changing opinions all the time. Thank you for this video, I think it will be able to give us some hope for the future ❤

@js72634 3 года назад

Awesome! Thank you so much for this video. We have been brushed off in less than 5 minutes too

@femraskolnikov 3 года назад

I'm new here, and this is the first video I've found by your system. I just wanted to say that this has made me feel a bit less stressed about bringing up the posibility to my therapist. There's a voice in my head that doesn't sound like my voice at all, it doesn't feel like my inner voice. I've been question that maybe I might be part of a system due to hearing voices, forgetting a lot of things related to emotional trauma expirienced at age 12, expiriencing dissociative symptoms, and probably more that I can't exactly remember now. I'm bringing it up to my therapist on Thursday, or atleast planning to, so thank you for boosting my (maybe our?) confidence a little more.

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I’m so glad the video was helpful, and I hope they therapy appointment went well 💕

@enawavezyz Год назад

this video is helping me a lot, i am a suspecting system and im searching as much as i can so i can talk to my therapist about it

@outdatedsymphony 3 года назад

I'm watching this because I'm planning to go to our therapist about this exact topic tomorrow. It's been wayy too long of us dealing with all this by ourselves. Wish us good luck!

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

Good luck!! We believe in you!! ❤️️ ❤️️ ❤️️ ❤️️

@SweetKel 3 года назад

This helps me tremendously. Thank you.

@DrShawnHorn 3 года назад

Excellent job!!!! I'm a psychologist who treats DID & OSDD snd I agree with this 100%!!!!! Really! Fabulous job! Keep it up!!!

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

Thank you! Both for the kind words, and for serving our community :)

@thelegacysystem4109 3 года назад

We just found this video. Thank you so so so much! We're currently looking for a specialist. There aren't any in Germany, apparently. We had five therapists cancel us because they didn't want to cause harm by being uneducated. We started being really hopeless and now we have some hope again

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope you find an amazing therapist some day ❤️️

@itstarot 3 года назад

oh this helped me alot because i think i may have alters but im not sure,and a part of my mind dont trust my therapist so this really helped!thank chu for making these videos

@themirrorsystem1945 4 года назад

That PowerPoint idea sounds genius!

@cjjackson3151 4 года назад

So glad I found your channel, for almost a year I've been researching DID and never found anything about OSDD till a few weeks ago. I've resonated with parts of DID but not enough for DID, finding information on OSDD has been so helpful. I get the 1, 1a and 1b confused so I cant quite specify which I relate with the most. I've noticed 2 alters so far but I never have the amnesia between them really just co consciousness but partial amnesia at other times. I've experienced co con with molly who seems to age slide between like 3-5 and then ive only really heard the guy a couple times and he goes by seven but no other information yet. Knowing that this happens to other ppl and it has a name and community, it helps. Also how do I get more comfortable with the whole 'we' system verbiage, so use to 'I' but I often feel like it doesnt fit I just use it to avoid questions and invalidation and its what I've used all my life, but since feel more confident in the fact that it's more then just me 'I' really doesnt fit anymore. plz help

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

If you want to transition to 'we,' engage with other systems as part of the community! People use "we" a lot and it can help normalize it in the part of your brain that has trouble shifting language :)

@miraculousdream7028 5 месяцев назад

Now if only we could actually get a therapist! Great video guys!

@AhsetofAtum 4 года назад

This is great advice👍

@whyoh8756 4 года назад

i love u owo great job!!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

owo 🏳️‍🌈

@naileaolivas2788 3 года назад

Fuck every single one of your videos are so informative and go in depth you literally helped me heal so much and realize I was dissociating I wasn’t aware to what degree the key is self love ugh thank you

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

Thank you!!! Aaaaa I’m so glad they’re helpful

@naileaolivas2788 3 года назад

The Rings System love you and thank you for making these video with such bravery and courage and authenticity 💕

@synaestheticstudios 4 года назад

I could not have found this video at a better time.... I discovered my system about a year ago but am absolutely terrified to seek diagnosis.... thank you for this. So much New subscriber. Wish I had found your channel earlier :)

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so glad it was helpful ❤️💕

@thetrashcansystem 4 года назад

Great video! We also had trouble talking to therapists about it. The first two shot us down completely. while We had one who was willing to listen, she didn't have the time for us. Same with the current therapist. she doesn't have time for us. We're still trying to figure out whether she'll work or not. but we have a system friend who also has DID. and they see the same therapist. The friend system says that she is good with DID patients. so we're giving her a shot. but it's been 3 months since we saw her and have not even finished the analysis worksheet. Bringing it up to her was difficult but after saying it straight out "I'm confident I have DID or OSDD." she was 100% willing to work with us. and so far, I think if we keep pushing to make these appointments, it'll work out eventually.

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I really hope it works out for y’all!!! I’m so proud of you for putting in the effort thus far ❤️

@AceOfWaffles 4 месяца назад

This reminded me that I kind of wanted to write a review for my terrible therapist so other people know what they’re getting into.

@letterborneVods 4 года назад

My therapists (all I’ve had!) always scream at me when I ask for a diagnosis. That is, one screamed I should stop “talking sh*t”, one says I’m not old enough (19) for a diagnosis, and my current one says she can’t treat me anymore if I keep asking for diagnoses. Everyone in my life criticizes me for wanting a “label”. In my country, diagnoses are heavily frowned upon. Most therapists hate them and consider me an attention seeker for wanting a diagnosis. Is that so wrong of me though? I just feel like something’s wrong, and I want to know what it is. I keep searching, every month it’s something else, and I just wish someone told me “it’s that and nothing else” so I can just accept it and move on, work on it, instead of thinking I’m a pathetic attention seeker.

@talacocheta9001 4 года назад

@LaughingForNoReason XD - You aren't an attention seeker for wanting a diagnosis. Just know that you can work on things even without an official diagnosis, and sometimes people get many different diagnosis as more is learned, or if things change during treatment. 19 is definitely old enough for a diagnosis and treatment. It sounds like you may want to seek help elsewhere if you can. No therapist should ever scream at a patient. Follow your gut instincts about yourself. Work on what you can. Best wishes!

@cheyannebenny9273 4 года назад

Thank you!!!! This video is so helpful ❤

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

I’m so glad! ❤️

@user-xt2qp2cw9w Год назад

I spoke to my psychiatrist on our second session (1 year after our first) about it (I said my old psychologist told me to mention that she had seen I fit all criteria for CPTSD and most likely had OSDD) and she asked what trauma I had and I was shocked and said a few things but have way too much amnesia and okg that's also just fking difficult like what??? I ended up saying a few things and she was like 'Just that?' AFTER EVERY PAUSE LIKE BRO LET ME SPEAK??? like an example was I started off with bullying as it's the furst thing that came to mind and all I did was 'um... *shaking from anxiety from suddenly digging into this* bullying... um...' CUT OFF "Just that??? that's not enough" and like that the whole time when I barely brushed the surface MIND THIS I FIRST SAW HER 2021 AFTER A PSYCH WARD DISCHARGE and this old ass fking lady decided to try to diagnose me with BPD after having an argument because I said I went to the ER bc I was having really bad thoughts and was a danger to myself and threat to my life after a UGKY fight with my boyfriend caused severe flashbacks after running away to get space as we lived in a one room apartment and she was like I fight with my husband and that doesn't make me want to end my life, that's being impulsive like maam I have severe depression and am constantly on the verge of ending it, the fight wasn't why it was the flashbacks and bad thoughts consuming my mind and deciding it was time my psychologist was mad and like bro??? um no not bpd at ALL you don't fit the criteria even closely yeah I hate that woman and am gonna get my new psychologist this month to help me change her as I don't wanna see her next month ☠️

@leahdean3469 4 года назад

Hey I just found your channel and I wanted to write about my experience, I have know for a long time there were other people in my head, since I was a little child I had good relations with them and the last couple of years the numbers have been growing. I’m not sure if I have OSDD (definitely not DID, I don’t have any amnesia) because our communication is extremely good. I have brought up the symptoms I was having even before I knew about DID and OSDD, but my therapist wrote it off as if I was imagining them to help me cope with my overwhelming emotions. She also ignored the unsafe environment I am in and gave me the diagnosis McDD, which is part of the autistic spectrum. When I asked what she was going to do with the people in my head, she said that we would work together and not see them as persons but as emotions. I’m leaving my therapist and going to a trauma specialized instituut for help, because I feel that I am not autistic but have childhood trauma and need a different type of help. If anyone has some suggestions with what I may have, I am open to hear them

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Hi! Obviously we’re not professionals and can’t diagnose you, but I’m glad you’re planning on seeing someone new! The bit about your therapist ignoring and brushing off your unsafe situation really sends up red flags, Bc while therapists shouldn’t ignore or brush off anything brushing off THAT is like. Yikes. I hope the new place is good to y’all ❤️❤️

@nationwhite8728 4 года назад

This video really helps me a ton. I'm a teenager that is struggling with many things, including but not limited to, bipolar, depression, and anxiety. Those are my official diagnoses. I havent seen a therapist in months. But I've been struggling with the idea of DID for at least a year now (I'm not good at remembering time), and it has evolved within me. I currently have four alters and two possible....fragments? If thats the right term. I've been doing my best as Johnny to hide away switches from my parents and teachers, and its putting me under major stress. My head hurts constantly and i'm always anxious. I want to be diagnosed before I let go and stop pushing them all away. Plus, I'm making them all despise me by never letting them front. I try to "let go" in my bedroom when I'm alone, but it doesnt really satisfy their loneliness of not being able to talk to other people. I have a head ache right now, probably because I'm up super late but also because I've been switching more and more with all of the stress, which leads to me pushing away my alters, which leads to more stress, which leads to more switching, etc.. I want to cry all of the time because it hurts so much, emotionally and physically. I always feel like I am going to pass out and I get blurry vision and dizzy spells from stress. It's especially hard to control one alter, who is very very aggressive and mean spirited. I just dont know what to do. I've only ever tried explaining to my parents my feelings on this once and they misconstrued it with my gender identity. I havent tried since. I don't know how to just accept myself, with or without a diagnosis. I feel like I need it to be valid, and for my parents to accept me. My last therapist didn't even believe in DID so that was wonderful. I'm going to a type of group therapy some point this month, and I'm hoping that will help. But in the meantime, how do I alleviate this stress?

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Hi dear, first off, it's ok to just exist. You don't have to label your existence, nor do you need a label to let it happen. Also, if that is the right label, from personal experience I promise that y'all can switch, and as long as you don't blatantly say "I'm a different person my name is x" no one will notice or realize you've switched. It takes a trained therapist or another system you're close friends with to catch it without you pointing it out. (Singlets can get good once they know you have DID and are close with you, but I've never met a singlet who didn't know we have DID notice ANYTHING even when we switched right in front of them). So my first advice is if it's hurting y'all and causing anxiety and headaches to try to hold back switches, don't. Let it go, and as long as you have ground rules like "Lets not pronounce to the world what is going on" it'll be ok. Again, it's ok to be like "I don't know if I have DID or not, but either way I'm just going to let go and exist the way my body and brain want to exist." ❤️❤️❤️❤️

@ravencrowe5689 4 года назад

Thxs lots if help. You're amazing

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Thank you ❤️

@salfisher423 3 года назад

Thank you for this video! We are trying to get a diagnosis for what we believe to be OSDD-1b, and we have been deathly terrified. The adults we have talked to (the body is a minor, but most alters are adults) have seemed like they don’t believe us when we tell them our system. We currently don’t have a therapist and we are trying to fix that.

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope things go well for y'all soon ❤️️

@cassandrafreier7525 3 года назад

Thank you for sharing.

@thomas-marx Год назад

I like your thumbnails

@leonasnake Год назад

I'm thinking about this stuff again. I dont really have someone to talk to about this, though, as I kind of fell out of therapy. It wasnt helping and all. Im thinking of bringing it up anyways bc i may be able to get access to resources that may help figure this out? Idk. This video is helpful, i have to think about this.

@lukap7297 4 месяца назад

a lot of this is wish i heard years ago after i brought up something to a therapist in our first session and in the 10 minutes of knowing me she told me i “didnt seem crazy enough”

@tiredatm3009 4 года назад

hurray! im early!

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Hehe :)

@MaskedNozza 3 года назад

Thank you Silver and everyone else. I'm feeling pretty anxious about the new psychiatrist we're starting to see, and I don't know that it's relevant or helpful to talk about being a system, but I keep getting blocked from discussing it anyway. I hope it gets easier - Jamie

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope it went well!! If you keep getting blocked, it might help to write your thoughts out on a piece of paper, and then hand it to your psychiatrist during a session. Sending love and good vibes ❤️️

@remmuxs8564 4 года назад

This is a really good idea! I dont have a therapist, but I plan on talking to my psychiatrist about all my symptoms, and honestly I'm a little afraid ;; but I plan on writing it all out like a script(because anxiety makes me jumble thoughts and forget what I'm trying to say).

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Good luck!! We believe in you!! ❤️

@leedraconis5793 4 года назад

Thank you so much for making the channel, you guys. A lot of the stuff got close to home. Im talking to my therapist rn about it but I didn’t bring up the fact that Im researching DID/OSDD because of the reasons you said. She’s a great therapist but it still scares me. I’m.... considering the possibility of a form of OSDD-1b. I have headmates ( 2 that I know of. I think a third may be trying to show themselves rn) and all the symptoms but I don’t... think that I experienced childhood trauma? It’s freaking me out. I have a lot of problems but they started after 8-9 so... isn’t that kind of like the deadline of the age that DID/OSDD can form?

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Yes, 6-9 is the deadline for trauma to form DID/OSDD. But something to keep in mind is that this disorder is very good at hiding things like that! We still don't remember any trauma that happened during that period - and that's ok! We may never remember anything and may never know for sure what we did or didn't experience. But what matters is the fact that we're a system - we dissociate, some of us experience PTSD symptoms, and the fact that we're here as a system at all is an important enough symptom to feel comfortable in our existence. Something I've written before on this: "It's also important to not go digging for repressed memories, because it’s dangerous without a therapist, and in my opinion, it’s not always necessary to know 100%. If it’s not currently bothering you and there’s no instant need to know 100% if you have childhood trauma or not, sometimes it’s best to leave it, yknow? We don’t have a lot of memories of our childhood and there’s probably lots of hidden trauma, but at this point it doesn’t matter - the fact that we have OSDD-1b is pretty obvious, and there’s so much more to focus on at the present moment."

@kb2o492 Год назад

i dont know what to think of the thought of me having osdd. i feel like I have some symptoms but something feels off. i always feel like I'm faking this, but it feels so real! i wanted to get more information on it and I wanted to know whats happening. that's when I found this video. but here's the thing. i don't remember any of the trauma that's supposed to come with OSDD. i think that's why I think I'm faking it. and then there is also the thought of other people thinking that I'm faking or thinking that I'm mocking them, because I do have a friend with DID. I've brought up something to them before about checking into it seeing what was happening to them and I thought that that's what was happening to me. and then they said there's no way that I had it. i was thinking about going to a therapist for it but I feel uncomfortable with telling my mother these things. is there a way that I could search for more information on this? like are there any youtube channels? i just thought that coming to watch you guys' channel (I've watched your videos before) would help me with some of the information that I needed. thank you so so so so so so much for making these videos! it really helps me in trying to find out what is wrong. thank you guys again so much! i really hope you guys are doing well, and that you're healthy. :)

@ariatheroyal 11 месяцев назад

hey, thanks for the 30 slide powerpoint idea! off I go to a 50 slide google slideshow

@libraryoflilylol199 4 года назад

Thanks for talking about this. I'm trying to get a new therapist so I can talk about it with them finally (I've tried to describe what I was going through but I didn't really know what was going on but their responses have always been stuff like "I can't help you if you don't remember this" at best - when referring to the fact that I can't remember anything outside my current mental state except a vague outline of events - and at worst implying that I hadn't really experienced something - like anxiety attacks - if I can't remember examples due to not being currently IN that mental state). It's getting harder to ignore though, and I know I'm never going go be able to process my trauma until I get this pinned down because previous attempts at trauma processing via therapy have been a disaster and this... might be why.... (I'm suspecting OSDD) One problem I have is that the mental state that does therapy sessions doesn't think anything's wrong - but I think since I'm IN therapy, there MUST be something going on and I remember an outline of events. So I talk about that. So now I've been labeling different mental states and signing journal entries and log entries with it. And I've got a document that describes what's happening with the symptoms as we're experiencing them with a note saying "even if this seems fake, please show this to the therapist or read it to them." so maybe that'll help.....

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Sending good vibes, I hope it goes well and I hope writing things down helps ❤️

@libraryoflilylol199 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem Thanks so much! Sadly the new therapist fell through. Insurance won't pay because they're out of network for my plan and they don't do special authorizations. I have no income, so I can't afford to pay out of pocket, and the therapists in the network so far have only had available appointments with months wait time between them and cancel on my right before the appointments and make me wait even longer. Usually it's harder to get a psychiatrist, but my psychiatrist has been more available than any of the therapists. I just worry that he'll dismiss me or not take me seriously and I'll still need to go to him for the meds I'm already on (or even worse, I'm afraid he'll assume it's something that needs antipsychotics and try to medicate it away). But I'm considering bringing it up anyway so maybe I can get a referral. Maybe starting with "I know I said during the intake that I didn't hear voices or have time loss but I've been informed that some of my experiences might actually not be normal and these are what they are..."

@LoudlyListening 4 года назад

Omg I have seen that slide show meme!

@JoshableJr 4 года назад

where ?

@Dawghome Год назад

The one time I finally began to trust my therapist she lost her shit big time! It forced us to go back and not try to upset a therapist again for fear of yet another aggressive response!!

@ianbrew8760 3 года назад

Thank you for this

@korofey4084 3 года назад

This is so helpful and important I noticed a similarity between our experiences and osdd that just isn't the same with tulpamancy and was ready to dismiss it and then people started talking about experiences being signs of trauma and Mel was not being helpful and i don't think we have any but it might be a good idea to bring up just in case

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

It might be! It’s always good to explore, and even if it turns out to not be the case, you’ve learned more about yourself. I hope figuring things out goes smoothly 💕

@thewillowsystem Год назад

Our parents have outright told us we "can't" be autistic after getting tested at a younger age. We're not even sure what trauma we have in the system, but these videos help so so much with understanding us and cpping with it. You guys are amazing.

@daydream4331 4 года назад

I've been curious about how inner world memories work in an OSDD-1B system I would love it if you could make a video on it, thx.

@Flower_shape_man Год назад

I was talking to my therapist about OSDD-1b and she put me down saying my trauma wasn’t bad enough and there’s no way i could have it. All the symptoms match up and it’ll all make sense if i do have it. And recently I’ve been having flashbacks on stuff i thought i forgot about like blocked from my memory. I thought i only had happy memories at my old house but all of a sudden I remember what happened and how much it hurt and how scared I was. And I’m scared if i bring it up again She’ll put me down.I’ve been talking to somebody from burkes Center and they agree with me they i might have OSDD-1b. Im happy that she’s listening to me.

@shattered115 6 месяцев назад

My therapist has actively and knowingly spoken with different OSDD alters. Sometimes different alters have different concerns.

@senekiss 3 года назад

Thank you so much, I needed this. I'm really scared to tell my therapist about OSDD.

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

We’re here for you! Take the time you need, write out a script if that helps, and breathe through it - and remember, you can always switch therapists. I hope it goes well if you decide to!

@wreckitremy 4 года назад

Great video. Im not sure if you'll see this, but figured worth a shot. I brought osd-1b up to my therapist because I'm not sure if I experience emotional amnesia. She wants one of my fragments to come to the next session. I'm not sure what to do because she is a loose cannon which is why I haven't let her go in a session before. Any tips?

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Our personal advice is only letting parts out if everyone is comfortable with the therapist, and the therapist 1. Has experience with this and 2. Already knows your system well! If this would be your second meeting with your therapist after bringing up OSDD-1b, and as you said the alter is a bit of a ‘loose cannon,’ I’d wait until you and your therapist are a bit more comfortable about the topic. After all, therapy is for you and directed by you! You can take things as slow or as fast as you’d like ❤️❤️

@wreckitremy 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem thank you for responding. Those are some good points, so thank you for helping make the decision to wait until we are more prepared.

@_thewhitefox_726 3 года назад

Thank you. I wish we would have seen this first. Our experience with the therapist has been catastrophic. She straight up denied (didn't tell us directly but we found out after days thinking abt the horrible things she told us). I think her primary reasons we don't have it were because 1 we searched it up on the internet (like yo, what else did I have to do? Watch the film split lmao) 2 we are too young so iT's hOrMoNeS

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I'm so sorry to hear that. I hope you don't have to go through that again, and have better experiences in the future ❤️️

@discountbulletin3396 3 года назад

Hi, this is the fourth time we've watched you guys' video. We're going to therapy on Saturday- for a first session screening or something? We really really hope that we'll be able to bring this up, but we're not sure when 😅 We wrote down some symptoms and things we've been experiencing, but we still aren't sure about it. And I just really hope it goes well. In addition to this we're going in for suicidal thoughts and stuff so I'm not sure when we should bring it up... Thank you for making this video!

@TheRingsSystem 3 года назад

I hope the therapy session went well! Sending good vibes 💕

@discountbulletin3396 3 года назад

The Rings System thank you, it did! I'm still thinking about waiting a bit before saying everything though haha

@fairlyaround Год назад

I told our last two therapists about the possibility of being a system, and they said, "if it's not bothering you, then it's nothing to worry about and you're probably fine and don't have these disorders." even after i told them that there were literally other people in my head and I've spoken to other people who are in systems and the other systems have been like, "yeah, you've definitely got something going on." Told our current therapist, and she encouraged us to research further and get evaluated by a neuropsychologist. edit: - Remi

@7hristmas 4 года назад

watching this video was really validating after been thru my own share of terrible therapists. adding with my own experience- a huge red flag is a therapist purposefully trying to trigger out alters w/o consent (our previous therapist tried to trigger out our ANPs a lot during therapy instead of bothering with our EPs 9__9)

@TheRingsSystem 4 года назад

Oh yikes! That is a big red flag. I hope you find better therapists in the future or are with someone better now ❤️

@7hristmas 4 года назад

@@TheRingsSystem we finally decided to seek out a specialist after that terrible therapist, and the new therapist is tons better :]! we're doing a lot of good work in therapy now.