Fascinating. What you are doing is SO important. As a gay man closeted for much of my early life, this conversation MUST be had in families, schools, sports and all the rest of it. Thanks for getting it started !!
It would be better to be an only child, than to have a brother like John. What an egoistic man this John is, still bitter against his brother even after the latter's death. Poor Amal, your uncle would be very proud of you.
It wasn't that easy way back then, I remember this story vividly as it played out. Heart wrenching seeing both of them like that. The family need closure, will take more time.
Whether John was/is a homophobe is only part of the story. I understand he behaved in a regrettable manner,but he has suffered enough. He knows he probably contributed to his brother's suicide. He has to carry that knowledge with him every day. He is grieving- the man had to bury his big brother. He deserves some tolerance and compassion. We all make mistakes but how many of us have paid a higher price for his mistake than John? Tolerance and trying to understand homophobia is the way forward. I think Justin would be proud of his niece.
I somehow don't think he cares . He comes across as being very cold and indifferent . The fact that he treated his brother the way he did speaks volumes about it .
US soccer (football) player Robbie Rogers announced today, 15 February 2013, that he is gay. Rogers has played for the US National Team, Leed United in Britain and Heerenveen in the Netherlands. Before him, soccer players David Testo and Anton Hysen had, also, come out as gay.
he says about scandal in the papers yet when justin was interviewed live he said it was all lies so does that not mean it was the media the papers etc making it up creating a stereotypical gay man i mean the papers in the 90's like im just 29 meself but inbetween their words they were sayin behead them burn them on the streets watch your children etc the papers way of selling papers to a people they thought mostly felt like that under educated and fearful of unknown ways of living??
Yeah, I struggle to pass too harsh judgment on him. He responded poorly in a very different time and he has to live with that. We all like to think we'd stand up to the world and do the right thing, but history shows that type of character to be quite rare. However, he could become an advocate for change today.
@@stephenreeds3672 Brian Clough, who directly was not accepting of Justin when the rumours first came out. There's a famous Clough line he said to Justin which later on Clough admitted he regretted.
yeah but what the papers did with that information compared to hetrosexual counterparts is it really in anyway different they always say footballers so energised and fit and all that that they shag so much and get a lot of attention like if the papers were to publicise information about another out of the closet man who just happens to be gay would they go about it in the same way dehumanising?? or just promiscuity in itself not wanted to hear like are hetrosexual counterparts treated as such??
His ultimate mistake was sleeping with a minor. I don't believe he would have gotten away with it. Just the fact a minor was involved. His brother could have supported him when he came out before hand.
Amal is very brave but I kind of wish she discussed the issue of RACE and how it conflates with sexual orientation and culture. Why doesn't Amal discuss the fact it probably was harder for her uncle Justin to come out as a black gay man than a white gay man? It doesn't make sense that Amal does not discuss homophobia in the black community.
@supahdupahguy81 what sou just said shows how stupid one can get. What has one's sexuallity got to do with being a ref. He may not be allowed to declare which team he supports, but talking about being gay is something he can do if he wants to.
I’ve never been comfortable with the word ‘homophobia’ or even ‘xenophobia’ as I am (what I can only describe as a real life phobic) I suffer from Arachnophobia which is not a dislike or prejudice it is a real debilitating acute fear/phobia which is medically incurable. I personally feel that whatever anyone’s nationality, religious beliefs, sexuality are no one else’s business. I accept I speak as a straight man and am probably regarded as a dinosaur and I have mixed feelings towards John, yes I agree no one gives two hoots about whether someone is gay or straight but equally I fully understand that the world twenty or thirty years ago isn’t what it is today. Homosexuality has and or is stigmatised for one simple reason that up until around 50 years ago it was illegal and it takes time for that stigma to be erased. I believe homosexuality is equal to heterosexuality and has been around since the dawn of civilisation it’s the stigma that has trapped and pigeonholed into something that it isn’t. God Bless and Rest In Peace Justin Fashanu
Silly cow. 'How hard do you think it's going to be for me to find one', like it's all a game and they owe it to her. If they don't want people to know, so be it.
She's not a "silly cow". She obviously has an emotional connection to the subject matter which has informed her reaction. She might have been a bit naive, that doesn't make her a "silly cow".
it would be very easy to diss john fashanu about how he reacted to he's brothers coming out and tragic death, but you must remember we are all a product of our upbringing. john was just trying to survive amongst he's peers. john was wrong but justin is he's blood, he's brother and he doesn't need anyone to prick he's conscience over this, he knows.
