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Northern Ireland has been a contentious issue for a while now, with the UK never being quite happy with the arrangement set out in the Brexit Deal. So yesterday Britain announced their controversial plan to change the deal, without the EU's permission.
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Комментарии : 2,6 тыс.   
@Red0543
@Red0543 2 года назад
Anyone else remember when Brexit was supposed to be “really easy” to implement and that it wouldn’t cause any issues whatsoever?
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
No, when was that?
@zachbrown7574
@zachbrown7574 2 года назад
You were lied to by Boris and that big red Truck. You should have seen this coming tbqh.
@jounik
@jounik 2 года назад
@@maxdavis7722 Does "Oven Ready Deal" ring any bells?
@Jimmy_Jones
@Jimmy_Jones 2 года назад
Whilst staying part of the EU might have made it slower to get covid vaccines. It may not have. So far it's the only thing I can think of that was a benefit of leaving. Everything else has continued on as normal (plus massive checks and cost rises from disruption). It was obvious staying unified was a better plan overall when you looked into it.
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547
@karlfranzemperorofmandefil5547 2 года назад
@@Jimmy_Jones i mean. Byontech might have been more willing to cooperate with an EU partner.
@goodlookingcorpse
@goodlookingcorpse 2 года назад
I didn't realize you could sign an agreement, but then just make a new agreement yourself, and the other party had to abide by the new agreement you made up. That will be really useful.
@RafaelW8
@RafaelW8 2 года назад
I just unilaterally signed a new agreement with my company, increasing my pay by 6969%
@idleishde6124
@idleishde6124 2 года назад
@Rafael White might as well try, you miss 100% of the shots you don't take! What's the worst that could happen? They say no? They fire you? You end up homeless in the gutter begging for spare change? Nah, just like the EU your bosses will fold easily.
@davidfradgley751
@davidfradgley751 2 года назад
No man you totally can, see I have a mortgage but i decided I'm gonna rewrite it so the bank has to pay me 800 quid every month for the next 40years instead. That'll teach em!
@RafaelW8
@RafaelW8 2 года назад
@@davidfradgley751 well played. Wish i thought of that
@SantomPh
@SantomPh 2 года назад
Empire logic
@stevoc9930
@stevoc9930 2 года назад
The current situation where NI has access to the UK and EU markets has resulted in Northern Ireland's economy performing better than expected and better than most other regions of the UK bar London. Which obviously can't be allowed as it would highlight just how much of a monumentally stupid idea it was to willingly cut your country off from the biggest trading bloc on the planet.
@markbriten6999
@markbriten6999 2 года назад
Wait till the shit hits the fan and city is reliant on dodgy dealings and the rest of the world says enough
@loopholesloopy
@loopholesloopy 2 года назад
seems like a good time to move to northern Ireland
@-vz-
@-vz- 2 года назад
besides it was not only a trading block
@stevoc9930
@stevoc9930 2 года назад
@@-vz- Indeed it wasn't, I valued it more for the stability it brought to Europe as a whole but most importantly NI where I live. But for a lot of the people who voted for Brexit that side of it is irrelevant.
@andrewwotherspoona5722
@andrewwotherspoona5722 2 года назад
@@markbriten6999 wait until Scotland leaves and London's dodgy dealings are finished....what is left?
@Yagh10
@Yagh10 2 года назад
Why would anyone hate the Czechs on the Irish border? I know a few Czechs and they're great lads i say leave them alone
@originaluddite
@originaluddite 2 года назад
* sigh *
@Jake-rm4be
@Jake-rm4be 2 года назад
I shouldn’t have laughed as much as I did
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock 2 года назад
And they're always saying the Poles say this and the Poles say that, it's wrong to generalise let them speak for themselves.
@slaterslater5944
@slaterslater5944 2 года назад
@@SirAntoniousBlock It all started with the Pole Tax....
@Barwasser
@Barwasser 2 года назад
@@slaterslater5944 That one only applies to the North Poles. The Poles in the south don't have to pay that tax.
@foxyboiiyt3332
@foxyboiiyt3332 2 года назад
I can tell ye that here in Ireland any trust in the British government and specifically the Tories has completely been lost.
@nick123nak6
@nick123nak6 2 года назад
well it's how the 50% of us left with working brains feel here in the UK as well
@cobbler9113
@cobbler9113 2 года назад
If it makes you feel better, we stopped trusting you in 2017 when your government sold its soul to Brussels.
@TheAmericanAmerican
@TheAmericanAmerican 2 года назад
Wait... you mean the Republic or NI?
@SeanSMST
@SeanSMST 2 года назад
I'm ROI and while nor under British gov, they piss me off by proxy for my NI brethren. Article fucking 16, their passage out of their own bloody agreement.
@foxyboiiyt3332
@foxyboiiyt3332 2 года назад
@@TheAmericanAmerican I'm in ROI but it's still the majority of people on the island of Ireland
@davianthule2035
@davianthule2035 2 года назад
Britain waives the rules!
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
You mean Britannia rules the waves? Edit: nevermind
@MolloyPolloy
@MolloyPolloy 2 года назад
@@Bluesfan1780 No. Read it again.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@MolloyPolloy It looked like he did a spelling mistake than I realised what he meant lol.
@julianshepherd2038
@julianshepherd2038 2 года назад
We're all pirates in Britain now. Government leads and it doesn't care about lawbreaking, national or international. Johnny Rotten could do a better job 😂
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@julianshepherd2038 More like forgotten.
@arnoackermann6584
@arnoackermann6584 2 года назад
I actually rather feel that Britain is fighting itself on this
@Berserker3624
@Berserker3624 2 года назад
Yes it does sound a bit confusing over why this was stared, but can you say that this unexpected once you had a understanding of the protocol? Becuase I can’t say I’m too Shock over it, I mean a sovereign nation has to go though customs in its own border’s it’s absolutely ridiculous!
@Bkh0498
@Bkh0498 2 года назад
@@Berserker3624 its not your own boarder though is it ? how hard is that for you to understand. NI is apart of the EU customs union meaning that any trade from the UK into the NI is crossing an EU border.
@Op37373
@Op37373 2 года назад
@@Berserker3624 yep that's why in the north they voted for a pro UK party, oh wait no they voted for Síne Fein, the pro Ireland party
@Berserker3624
@Berserker3624 2 года назад
@@Bkh0498 it is, NI apart of the UK meaning we’re the same nation, it’s ridiculous that you have the absurdity to tell me otherwise that regardless of what union they are in they are still apart of the UK meaning the rest of the UK has a right to trade without restriction of any kind not placed by the government to NI. What part of that did you not understand mate?
@uthman83
@uthman83 2 года назад
well ye we have Boris running things.
@lilacbookshelf1909
@lilacbookshelf1909 2 года назад
“This agreement that we signed to protect the Good Friday agreement must be changed immediately… to protect the Good Friday agreement!”
@znail4675
@znail4675 2 года назад
It's more like breaking the Good Friday Agreement to protect it.
@e.n.strowd1949
@e.n.strowd1949 2 года назад
I don’t understand anymore why Westminster bothers with Northern Ireland. May as well just say, “here, take it, Ireland. It’s your problem now.”
@evannibbe9375
@evannibbe9375 2 года назад
@@e.n.strowd1949 Well, if the UK has its way, it could make a free trade agreement with the U.S. (had they been willing to become Trump’s vassal), then make a killing off smuggling goods from the EU to the U.S., and Vice versa.
@dochedgehog
@dochedgehog 2 года назад
@@e.n.strowd1949 i think its pretty fucking rich of you to say that. this couuntry literally fought over the right to be a part of both ireland and the UK. The good friday agreeement was put forward and all of us agreed to be part of the UK. Why does the UK bother? because we are the UK. And Unionists cause problems eh? So protesting the actual border and breaking of the first agreement is wrong. Educate yourselves
@dochedgehog
@dochedgehog 2 года назад
@Three Emperors No it isnt 50/50 on unity. Its 70/30. The nationalist party one the right to be minister for the first time in 100 years. We didnt vote for them because we wanted to leave the UK. we voted because the DUP wouldnt do thier jobs
@ottoreinstra9323
@ottoreinstra9323 2 года назад
As an EU citizen I would support pulling out of the “oven ready deal” altogether, and let the UK sort out its own mess.
@zerto111
@zerto111 2 года назад
Problem is That Ireland is part of the EU. And that "sort out it's own mess" could result into an actual war between an EU nation and GB. That's why everyone is so keen on preserving the good friday agreement.
@jarveyjefferies9685
@jarveyjefferies9685 2 года назад
As a UK citizen, I just want to EU to invade and get rid of the Tory government.
@Coldheart322
@Coldheart322 2 года назад
The problem with "The UK sorting out it's own mess", is part of the UK is also intrinsically linked to part of the EU. Ireland is not going to be happy with the idea of a border on it's lands, the EU is not going to be happy without a border between RoI and the UK, and NI is not going to be happy with a border between NI and GB. Yet unless the UK keeps the same trade standards as the EU, there will have to be a border somewhere. Saying that, the EU could agree to lower it's standards to what ever the UK decides, and then we don't have to worry that way either! :-p
@randomclick2826
@randomclick2826 2 года назад
@@Coldheart322 the U.K. has higher standards by every metric than the EU. We surpass all their standards. The only issue would be who gets the VAT. You think Bulgaria and Estonia (that label horse meat as beef) produce better goods than the U.K?
@Skaterstee
@Skaterstee 2 года назад
@@randomclick2826 the UK is set to lower our food standards so we can import cheaper meat despite saying before Brexit that this wouldn't happen.
@maireadoleary5102
@maireadoleary5102 2 года назад
It's worth noting the DUP were also the only party to reject the Good Friday Agreement and refused to sign it.
@davidpeterson5647
@davidpeterson5647 2 года назад
Hell awaits those who knowingly act with unknowing forethought.
@bennyreed2900
@bennyreed2900 2 года назад
Mairead o leary. Yet paisley took his seat, along side martin McGinnis. 🤔 What does that tell you 🤔.!!!
@mickoneill6233
@mickoneill6233 2 года назад
Johnson might require the DUP to nominate a speaker before allowing the new bill go to its second reading, putting the ball back in their Court,... then it will be voted down in its progress. By Labour, Snp, Libs, Sdlp, One nation Torys because they're opposed to it, the DUP and Erg because its probably been watered down to fxxk by then and not extreme enough!! either way he's banking on it not getting through either House... I can't see the Lords passing it either,
@jacobite1017
@jacobite1017 2 года назад
@@bennyreed2900 Paisley knew the times were changing and he was on a loser.:)
@solidus784
@solidus784 2 года назад
It's also worth noting, the current leader of the DUP who never shuts up about damaging the good friday agreement when it suits him left his old party (UUP) in protest at them signing the good friday agreement.
@napoleonibonaparte7198
@napoleonibonaparte7198 2 года назад
Johnson’s “oven-ready” deal was cooked by “Chef Mike”.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
How's St Helen doing for you?
@ethanbotterill2743
@ethanbotterill2743 2 года назад
Didn't expect a kitchen nightmares reference here
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 2 года назад
That "oven ready" deal will give the uk a bad bout of "the squirts" for a while longer i guess ;)
@SeanSMST
@SeanSMST 2 года назад
It's fucking RAW
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz 2 года назад
I understood that reference!
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 года назад
And who checks that the trucks in the green lane are not just skipping the queue in the red lane? 🙄 Or indeed using the green lane to smuggle into the EU?
@nicolaramoso3286
@nicolaramoso3286 2 года назад
The UK government says that they're going to provide live data on goods coming into NI. Though they were due to produce that data to the EU under the original provisions of the Protocol and they've never did that, it will be interesting to see if they will renege on their promise again.
@deehaytch8442
@deehaytch8442 2 года назад
think about geography, is transporting UK to NI to EIRE then into Europe a smugglers dream???
@ciaranbrk
@ciaranbrk 2 года назад
@@deehaytch8442 yes it is two big markets its a smugglers wet dream.
@Eikenhorst
@Eikenhorst 2 года назад
@@deehaytch8442 It very well can be! Transport cost are very low these days, while certain EU regulations can make a product significantly more expensive. Smugglers are more associated with people who try to avoid some taxes by sneaking in some products, while this is more about shipping truckloads full of non-regulation products.
@cobbler9113
@cobbler9113 2 года назад
@@ciaranbrk No it isn’t. The notion that something produced in the UK would have to be shipped over to NI, driven through the ROI to Rossclare, put on a ferry to Dunkirk and then sold elsewhere in the EU at a profit is laughable. In any case, 20% of all the EU’s external checks are done at NI. Do you seriously expect us to believe that is proportional, fair or balanced in anyway. It’s an attempt to punish the UK, no more and no less.
@goodlookingcorpse
@goodlookingcorpse 2 года назад
"This marks a return to the Brexit days of old" Does it though? My outsider's impression is that this has been happening continuously. The UK government makes demands, the EU says no, the UK government keeps making them, the EU keeps saying no, the UK government backs down. The UK government makes new demands, and so on.
@ls200076
@ls200076 2 года назад
EU not giving in? Does this mean that EU is based?
@kylefisher1458
@kylefisher1458 2 года назад
@@ls200076 it means the EU is the stronger economic power and in trade agreements the bigger economy gets to make the rules and squeeze the smaller partners as much as they can get away with Im Canadian, we have to deal with America doing that all the time. If we want access to their market, we have to play by their rules and its now the same for the UK & Europe It was the whole damn point of the EU economically ... form a strong trading bloc that could dominate smaller nations globally and compete with America or China and be pushed around by them
@Doso777
@Doso777 2 года назад
The EU said yes to quite a few things when it came to impelementing the protocol, you know practical solution to problems. Meanwhile the UK is still busy playing politics.
@nonyabisness6306
@nonyabisness6306 2 года назад
@@kylefisher1458 It's even worse than that. The UK has to adhere to the GFA. The EU does not, they just do so voluntarily. Meaning literally the UK is dependant on the EU making a deal with them. There is no alternative.
@varcoliciulalex
@varcoliciulalex 2 года назад
I understand that the EU keeps saying no, but what is UK asking, should that matter as well?
@tuvaaq
@tuvaaq 2 года назад
Make Ireland whole again and ship the DUP to Rwanda.
@Roman500
@Roman500 2 года назад
Hahahaha perfect 🤣🤣
@DudeWatIsThis
@DudeWatIsThis 2 года назад
Rwanda is a pretty decent african country though. I know the name sounds like a doo-doo hole, but it's totally not.
@Roman500
@Roman500 2 года назад
@@DudeWatIsThis The UK themselves stated that human rights are being violated in Rwanda….
@bothi00
@bothi00 2 года назад
Can we put Patel, Dorries, Lewis, Truss, Kwarteng, and Johnson on a flight there too while we're at it?
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
Was it really whole before tho? The kingdom of Ireland was essentially ruled by the English.
@Kunori
@Kunori 2 года назад
Get Brexit done, eh? Boris wants a distraction from his problems, mainly, and apart from that he wants 'trusted business' status as another potential gift to their wealthy donors. They want to be able to drop regulations for the sake of their donors' profits, too, but they have a problem that if they do that they need somewhere to sell their products, since the lower classes of the UK won't be able to afford them any more after a couple years of that. Sell to the EU, then! But they won't accept stuff made with low regulations! No problem: flog them through Northern Ireland, where if this passes, the EU can't stop them. It's all to serve the sleaze.
@TheBarca1889
@TheBarca1889 2 года назад
Brexit won, deal with reality.
@SteveHaroz
@SteveHaroz 2 года назад
Yeah, the "trusted business" status seems like a major political tool. Worse, it'd probably be much tougher for small family businesses to get, making it a classist weapon as well.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@TheBarca1889 Brexit deal ain't good but it's done. But I hope that sort some things out.
@nathanaelsmith3553
@nathanaelsmith3553 2 года назад
Brexit is the grift that keeps on grifting - Get Boris Done!
@dorkangel1076
@dorkangel1076 2 года назад
@@TheBarca1889 We're trying to. Sadly those who wanted Brexit have problems believing the reality it caused.
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz 2 года назад
Such a mess. I'll die on the hill that it's undemocratic to implement Brexit policies without a referendum asking "You wanted Brexit. Here's how it will look. Do you still want it?"
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz
@NuttyRedBaBonkerz 2 года назад
had us in the first half not gonna lie
@aoconnnell
@aoconnnell 2 года назад
Watch the life of Brian for your hill to die on
@noldo3837
@noldo3837 2 года назад
Tories and democracy... Not to fotget it is more or less Putin's scheme from the start.
@user-lv6rn9cf8m
@user-lv6rn9cf8m 2 года назад
@@seang2700 More than one referendum - not bad, if the population was lied to in the first. Not just putting a stop to this whole Brexit thing - very bad. It's clearly not what the population wants.
@nienke7713
@nienke7713 2 года назад
Regarding joining EC and then later brexit: with enough time popular opinion can change, otherwise we might as well vote for representstives to gain a lifetime seat, and only vote in new people when the old ones die or resign. In regards to a 2nd brexit referendum: absolutely, the first referendum was vague on how it would exactly look, with people on both sides spreadig misinformation; people voted for brexit under various ideas of what it would look like. The referendum was also a non-binding one, with very close results, relatively low turn out, and people who would be most affected (young people, UK citizens livig elsewere in the EU, EU citizens from other countries living in the UK) not (yet) being allowed to vote. Once it was clear what the actual options were: no deal, the deal that was on the table, or remaining, then people should have had the chance to have a ranked condorcet vote to determine the further course of action.
@JayJay5244
@JayJay5244 2 года назад
Honestly Britain should just go no deal at this point… I’m sick and tired of the British government blaming everything on the EU…
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
They blame each other more like but I agree with no deal which is what the brexiteers want.
@JayJay5244
@JayJay5244 2 года назад
@@Bluesfan1780 Well the UK is to blame though… Why sign up to a deal you didn’t want in the first place?
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@JayJay5244 No no no you got it all wrong, the British want no deal but the government said f*** that and had a deal.
@thewingedhussar4188
@thewingedhussar4188 2 года назад
Why? Even with a no deal brexits it still wouldn't have solved the Northern Ireland issue. The only solution I see is either rejoining the EU and getting back to how things were arranged OR just letting Northern Ireland go back to Ireland.
@zachbrown7574
@zachbrown7574 2 года назад
@@Bluesfan1780 your alliance with the US will be at risk when you are just a measly England.
@Halesnaxlors
@Halesnaxlors 2 года назад
From an EU perspective this is beyond silly. The EU's requirement is this: * Since the UK is now outside the union, free market, and Schengen zone (by their own choice), we will have to have a border. There will have to be checks on goods, since you now want to deviate from the regulation of said goods. We don't want you to smuggle chlorinated chicken into our common market. The UK is free to decide where that border will be. On land (violating the GF agreement), or in the sea (upsetting unionists). Frankly, it's not our problem. You put yourself in this mess. You fix it. I don't give a shit whether this is bad for your party politics. Throughout this whole brexit ordeal the UK has been real cheeky. Everyone with a brain can see that they want to have the cake and eat it too. And when it comes to red and green boxes: you still have to have customs to ensure the green boxes end up in NI and the red in the EU, otherwise it's just a coat of paint. You are right back where it started. If nobody checks, then there is no customs, and if someone checks, there is customs. Now it's just customs with paint.
@ollybb3691
@ollybb3691 2 года назад
Hey man, it's not as simple as that cos u gotta consider the impact the decision this has on the normal UK citizen many of which desperately didn't want this or were simply lied to by the Conservative party. Its not fair to punish the UK as if its just the ministers and government being affected (which do deserve it) making the lives of UK citizens harder will just lead to further problems for the EU. e.g Stoke further nationalism etc In summary brexit sucks and the people who thought of it and lead it suck even more. Wish we had another referendum 🇪🇺
@ollybb3691
@ollybb3691 2 года назад
Plus chlorinated chicken didn't make it through in the end anyway, ik its kinda an irrelevant point but still. Can't believe the mess parliament put us in ☹️
@evannibbe9375
@evannibbe9375 2 года назад
But see, smuggling is the quickest way British people can afford houses in Britain!
@NAYRUthunder99
@NAYRUthunder99 2 года назад
@@ollybb3691 the UK is a democracy, which means that citizens are responsible of their government's doings. If they fall to lies, the fault's on them.
@aoconnnell
@aoconnnell 2 года назад
@@NAYRUthunder99 Democrats! 18% of the vote can get you your seat!!!
@RazorMouth
@RazorMouth 2 года назад
The report did not say that 20% of all EU checks take place in the Irish Sea. It says that, based on a calculation, 20% of documentary SPS checks take place in NI - i.e. that one fifth of a certain subcategory of a certain type of check take place 🙄 And even that isn't proven as the UK doesn't have access to the total checks on all EU borders. In other words, it's a baseless assertion made up by NI unionists 🙄 The EU import 3.4 trillion Euro worth of goods every year, to say there are 20% of those checks between GB and NI is actually laughable 😂😂😂
@huginnmuninn2155
@huginnmuninn2155 2 года назад
The problem is the nature of the consignments, if i send a truck into NI with 250 types of items on it, there are 250 things that could be checked. Or i send a cargo container into the EU that contains one type of item.
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 2 года назад
Not as laughable as that red bus no one wants to remember ;) But still...
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 2 года назад
I mean, if we look at the Norwegian fish exports, the paperwork is done and filed long before it even nears EU borders. Hell there are salmon farmers putting their products on truck and start shipping it south before it's even sold, meaning they literally run auction on fish while it's in transit. These sort of systems takes years and years of hard work, cooperation and discussion. (I worked on them. Let me tell you, when you push a change to a system that runs 6% of your country's GDP, you're pretty damned nervous before.) The thing is, that this took years of work to get going, and the system has grown better ever since. The UK simply haven't started building these types of systems, so how on earth can they expect things to go anywhere near as smoothly?
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 2 года назад
@@HrHaakon Because they still think they're the british empire and everybody has to do as they say?
@albevanhanoy
@albevanhanoy 2 года назад
Let's be honest here, the only way this can end is with NI rejoining Ireland. As long as it stays part of the UK there won't ever be a solution.
@mastertrams
@mastertrams 2 года назад
Or the UK rejoining the single market...
@albevanhanoy
@albevanhanoy 2 года назад
@@mastertrams Well yes, I suppose that would do it too.
@jounik
@jounik 2 года назад
@@mastertrams There's the small snag in that plan that the single market membership is only available to member states of either EFTA or the EU and the UK is neither.
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 2 года назад
I am sure the half the population of NI agrees with you but what about the other half? I guess they don't matter if we are using your logic..
@mastertrams
@mastertrams 2 года назад
@@davidgalea6113 Well... Put it this way. 52% of the country voted for Brexit. That's about half. So the other half of the country was ignored, was it not?
@EclipsaMyrtenaster
@EclipsaMyrtenaster 2 года назад
At this point, I'm more convinced that when the UK was in the EU, they had fewer problems than when they did the whole Brexit thing
@ZS-bg7jo
@ZS-bg7jo 2 года назад
Almost as if the entire Brexit movement was an outsider stunt platform that was not actually supposed to pass but did and instead exploded all over the backers' faces.
@letsburn00
@letsburn00 2 года назад
Well, elites in the UK could just blame all their problems on the EU. Which was funny, because almost all those problems in the EU were caused by British lobbying.
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 года назад
YOU THINK?
@theoretisch4429
@theoretisch4429 2 года назад
Imagine you, as a person, would negotiate something, agree on it by putting your signature under it and then act like it's unfair. The Brexit is the gift that keeps on giving edit: oh and claiming how good the deal is right after signing it, just to say it isn't as soon as it doesn't suit you anymore ofc
@TerribleFire
@TerribleFire 2 года назад
there is no way for Brexit to work. The British public was conned into doing something to stop the ultra rich from losing their tax havens. It kept them rich and made everyone else a lot poorer.
@williampatrickfagan7590
@williampatrickfagan7590 2 года назад
The DUP also said it was the best thing to come along since the sliced pan .
@verystripeyzebra
@verystripeyzebra 2 года назад
And campaigning , asking the public to vote for it in a general election.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@Gary-bz1rf That agreement was never about guaranteeing security, it was more of a recognising Ukraine and it's borders but It's not a defensive alliance.
@verystripeyzebra
@verystripeyzebra 2 года назад
@@Gary-bz1rf no, Gary, nothing like that at all. Remember there is another solution....regulatory alignment.
@tylerleggett5088
@tylerleggett5088 2 года назад
So the uk left a free trade union and are now upset by rules on imports and exports implemented due to this departure? Can't have it both ways 'great' Britain...
@bartholomewdan
@bartholomewdan 2 года назад
Apparently this is still too difficult to understand for some people.
@nicodesmidt4034
@nicodesmidt4034 2 года назад
Who comes out on top, hmmm let me think: a 66M island surrounded by the EU, a 450M integrated market.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
Sounds like population.
@timogul
@timogul 2 года назад
Ireland is a part of the EU though. There is no rational solution in which the EU treats Ireland any differently just because the UK decided to Brexit. ALL the consequences of Brexit need to be carried by the UK, not passed on to Ireland.
@megadwarf4714
@megadwarf4714 2 года назад
@@timogul Ireland want to have no border with northern ireland, that requires some sort of negotiation
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 года назад
@@megadwarf4714 They've had negotiations a plenty, time for the UK to act like the superpower it thinks it is and honour it's agreements.
@timogul
@timogul 2 года назад
@@megadwarf4714 And the video broke down the options for that, either A. the UK agrees to abide by EU regulations internally, so that no border checks are needed between the EU and UK, B. The UK agrees to allow EU-approved border checks between Northern Ireland and Great Britain, or C. Northern Ireland Brexits the UK and rejoins the EU. Whatever happens, the costs involved have to fall entirely on the UK side of things, not on Ireland or the other EU countries. The UK made this bed, they don't get to force anyone else into it.
@cjane_world
@cjane_world 2 года назад
The UK has three options: 1. Join EFTA/EEA or rejoin the EU 2. Let Northern Ireland reunify with Ireland 3. Implement a hard border between Ireland and Northern Ireland and give up any advantages of the EU Single market and violating the good friday agreement. Johnson doesn't want to commit to any of these solutions. And that's why he's playing with his closest partners in the world. He's a liar, unreliable and I personally don't believe a word that's coming from him. I hope the EU will stand strong and not be blackmailed into an agreement by a liar and cheater.
@Bushflare
@Bushflare 2 года назад
‘Let’ Northern Ireland reunify with Ireland, huh? Like the U.K. is just preventing all of the Northern Irish from embracing their southern brothers with open arms? The reason the Good Friday agreement even exists to begin with is because Irish Nationalists are gagging to conquer part of the U.K. based on a form of manifest destiny justification to the point where they engaged in terrorism and insurgency for decades. How about this then? The people living in N. Ireland who want to live in a Republican Ireland can all just move south and leave the North to the people who just aren’t that into Catholicism, Republicanism, and Car Bombs? The reason this is difficult is because the EU operates as a protectionist state. They insist that the border should be within the U.K. which is a sovereign nation, instead of compromising and having a border within the EU, which is supposedly *not* a sovereign nation? So by the EU’s reckoning a sovereign nation’s integrity matters less than a trading bloc? Whichever way you slice it the EU is being just as unreasonable as the U.K. in these matters and both sides are trying to get a deal that is best for themselves at the expense of the Good Friday agreement.
@TheAmericanAmerican
@TheAmericanAmerican 2 года назад
1 & 2 would be lovely imo. 3 is beyond moronic.
@cjane_world
@cjane_world 2 года назад
@@Bushflare No, the EU is not acting like a protectionist state. The UK is. The UK left the EU, they wanted out at whatever costs. Congratulations, you have it. Deal with it.
@cjane_world
@cjane_world 2 года назад
@@Bushflare And regarding Northern Ireland: give them a referendum and we'll see where they want to go: UK or Ireland.
@Bushflare
@Bushflare 2 года назад
@@cjane_world We are dealing with it. This is the process. EU won’t compromise so neither will the U.K. and now the little guys have to suffer. Also, a referendum on statehood is such an unfathomably stupid idea it boggles the mind. For starters, we saw with Brexit just how good referenda are at unifying a nation on a decision that makes everyone happy, but moreover the idea that a simple majority can just vote to abolish a nation-state at the expense of the minority is as obscene as the idea that a majority can just vote to ignore the cultural disenfranchisement of a minority who feel unrepresented. Most best case scenario of a referendum is nothing changes in the status quo. But most likely case if the referendum goes poorly for the unionists is the Good Friday Agreement gets the torch and full civil conflict begins as the Unionists fight to preserve the nation which represents their identity. So many people just piss all over the Ireland situation like the lives and identities of those living on the ground aren’t as important as the satisfied feeling you’d get in seeing the side you don’t like lose.
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026
@notthedroidsyourelookingfo4026 2 года назад
So they found out Brexit was a dumb idea yet?
@o_-_o
@o_-_o 2 года назад
It is starting to seem to me that uniting Ireland is easier than sorting out this deal
@unknowntake7327
@unknowntake7327 2 года назад
hopefully it happens🇮🇪🇮🇪🇮🇪
@jamesgiles4517
@jamesgiles4517 2 года назад
That would upset the unionists
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Irish revanchism is gross and ugly. You don't own Northern Ireland. Learn to deal with it.
@ShrunkedDude
@ShrunkedDude 2 года назад
And hoping Scotland finally leaves the UK and stop believing in these self interested Tories.
@richarddumont5389
@richarddumont5389 Год назад
Yes this is the way and have DUP members move back to Scotland were they belong…
@Andrew-ob5ij
@Andrew-ob5ij 2 года назад
Boris distracting from partygate
@raggedcritical
@raggedcritical 2 года назад
I thought he was distracting from the fact that over 40% of his own party have no confidence in his leadership. That and trying to keep the ERG clowns on side.
@fmccool01
@fmccool01 2 года назад
As an Irish person, it's funny but also mildly scary watching the Brexit fallout since 2016. If it isn't the consequences of the UK's own actions.
@SirAntoniousBlock
@SirAntoniousBlock 2 года назад
Yeah it's really strange seeing a country dissolve itself.
@WolfetoneRebel1916
@WolfetoneRebel1916 2 года назад
I don't think that it's funny at all that their decisions significantly impact us. Whether it will be an EU trade war with the UK and a hard border with Northern Ireland, we are the ones that will suffer the brunt of the UKs actions.
@slaterslater5944
@slaterslater5944 2 года назад
If I were an Irish person, I would be quietly savouring the irony of the first victim of the British empire being that which puts the remains of it firmly in its place.
@TheAmericanAmerican
@TheAmericanAmerican 2 года назад
My Irish ancestors fled the Potato Genocide therefore I relish in watching England's continuing decline from the world's mightiest empire to the small wet island off the coast of Europe that it began as.
@WolfetoneRebel1916
@WolfetoneRebel1916 2 года назад
@@slaterslater5944 I don’t savour it. I’ve had enough of their shit to be honest.
@Norplinger
@Norplinger 2 года назад
Do you not think it even worth mentioning in passing that all the other elected MLAs in NI are united in their opposition to unilateral legislation, as was made clear in a letter to Boris Johnson signed by 52 out of 90 MLAs, nor that all the other signatories to and guarantors of the Good Friday Agreement have been perfectly clear that the Protocol protects the agreement and the British government's actions are putting it in jeopardy? I would have thought those were fairly important points.
@42earthling
@42earthling 2 года назад
Not for propagandists.
@michielpeeters7438
@michielpeeters7438 2 года назад
I’m totally in favor for sanctioning the UK if they pull out of the agreement, it’s not our problem you don’t like the deal you signed up for
@luksvlogs1201
@luksvlogs1201 2 года назад
Just sanctions all the mp’s
@tacotuesday2489
@tacotuesday2489 2 года назад
@@luksvlogs1201 Which would make the situation even worse..
@edss
@edss 2 года назад
this "oven-ready" deal seemed a bit burnt and charred
@bothi00
@bothi00 2 года назад
It was put into the oven after already having tried to cook and burn it in the microwave
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
What's the EU going to do if the UK decides to not enforce internal borders? They could deploy Frontex to the Irish border.
@cjane_world
@cjane_world 2 года назад
lol... don't scream bloody "sovereignty" and expect to get all the benefits you want. Be part of it or leave, but then don't go whining about how unfair it is and that you want sovereignty AND all benefits. This is ridiculous. Why would anyone bend their will to these demands? Grow tf up, Johnson
@mazri3530
@mazri3530 2 года назад
UK: it's really simple actually; I want all the good stuff, and non of the restriction. EU: that does not make sense. UK: OMG, you are impossible!
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Let the EU enforce their own restrictions. Nobody's stopping them from enforcing their own borders. Or just take a chill pill and accept that it's basically fine if people smuggle British goods into the EU because Britain and Europe are both fine countries and things will be just fine with no borders.
@rehorekMichal
@rehorekMichal 2 года назад
Jeez. So the UK repeatedly proposes and threatens to change an INTERNATIONAL agreement by its NATIONAL laws and is surprised that the EU "fumes" and suggests that negotiations on the matter are going to be difficult. … Embarrassing.
@toyotaprius79
@toyotaprius79 2 года назад
It's totally unsurprising as an Irish person
@humorpalanta
@humorpalanta 2 года назад
The year 4265: EU citizens travel to distant planets. Everyone is happy. The British Government is working on to change the Brexit Deal... XD
@Suksass
@Suksass 2 года назад
May was terrible during Brexit negotiations, clearly showing that UK had no clue what it was doing. Johnson showed that he is both incompetent and untrustworthy. UK can't afford no deal and that is why it signed the deal. In fact, UK offered this deal, the deal that May said no competent PM would ever sign. Now Johnson is banking on EU being kind enough to not just throw out the deal after UK unilaterally attempts to change it.
@SevenEllen
@SevenEllen 2 года назад
Yup. That's Tory MPs in a nutshell: Terrible and incompetent.
@matthiasknutzen6061
@matthiasknutzen6061 2 года назад
It's ironic though that may got so much critique because Johnson's deal is pretty much exactly May's deal but with a border within the UK, something May and other always said was unacceptable,.but when the cult leader has ideas everything goes.
@Lando-kx6so
@Lando-kx6so 2 года назад
Pretty much
@paulus121212
@paulus121212 2 года назад
was not mays fault it was camerons fault and when the vote came in he rage quit
@ikke12345
@ikke12345 2 года назад
how wrong can he be. the EU does not need the TCA (because the UK does not control anything coming into the country), the UK needs it.
@istherenofreename
@istherenofreename 2 года назад
I love how the Tories solution is to say a green lane is needed for trusted traders. Quite how they can ask anyone to trust them, is beyond belief.
@aleksandersokal5279
@aleksandersokal5279 2 года назад
Border between Britain and NI is unacceptable though, UK should ignore it.
@steve08717
@steve08717 2 года назад
@@aleksandersokal5279 when you back yourself into a dead end with the dumbest idea a government has ever had your left with 2 options reverse brexit or reunite ireland but to keep there base of village idiots on side they will keep making the problems worse
@nick123nak6
@nick123nak6 2 года назад
@@aleksandersokal5279 2 ways of fixing this then, A) re-join the single market B) A unified ireland.
@Eikenhorst
@Eikenhorst 2 года назад
@@aleksandersokal5279 Border between NI and Ireland is also unacceptable. So what is the solution, except for the whole of Britain to continue following EU laws (like Switzerland does)
@rww805
@rww805 2 года назад
@@nick123nak6 your attitude to the UK is why we left
@danielnascimento6482
@danielnascimento6482 2 года назад
Eager to leave the UK, this island is going down the toilet
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
This island has been going since WW2.
@davidgalea6113
@davidgalea6113 2 года назад
@@Bluesfan1780 It has turned into a multicultural cesspool.
@chris-ryan
@chris-ryan 2 года назад
@@Bluesfan1780 Not being able to move on mentally beyond ww2 might be part of the issue, the war is in the past, what about the future?
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@chris-ryan Probably the End of this island.
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Come to California. It's nice here and very international. It is expensive though.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 2 года назад
The UK cannot be outside the EU, but can then bring goods into the EU via Northern Ireland without customs clearance. Either that has to happen in the Irish Sea or on the border between Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. For Northern Ireland it is better if there is no land border and no civil war. The problem is that Belfast is not allowed to decide for itself, but has the conditions dictated by London.
@jensschroder8214
@jensschroder8214 2 года назад
What about Gibraltar? It also has a border with EU.
@teddyzaehmer
@teddyzaehmer 2 года назад
@@jensschroder8214 it also has a clear EU -oriented Population. If the UK is heading in the direction as it is right now, i wouldnt bet on the Illusion that these borders are set in stone
@DudeWatIsThis
@DudeWatIsThis 2 года назад
@@jensschroder8214 As soon as the right-wing nationalists seize power in Spain (pretty much a given, seeing the trainwreck that is the current left-wing government), Gibraltar will have a problem for a while.
@jounik
@jounik 2 года назад
@@jensschroder8214 Gibraltar's borders are handled by Frontex. If you think this is the solution for NI too then sure, why not.
@megadwarf4714
@megadwarf4714 2 года назад
belfast is never going to agree to anything
@timmurphy4844
@timmurphy4844 2 года назад
The red/Green check is something Ireland/EU could never sign up for, how can Ireland be independent when their neighbours are bringing in whatever the fuck they want from all over the world.
@cobbler9113
@cobbler9113 2 года назад
Right, because taking something produced in the UK, shipped over to NI, driven through the ROI to Rossclare, put on a 24 hour ferry trip to Dunkirk and then sold elsewhere in the EU is totally profitable. That argument is an absolute joke and you know it.
@popelgruner595
@popelgruner595 2 года назад
@@cobbler9113 It is about "sovreignty" and you know it hun.
@cobbler9113
@cobbler9113 2 года назад
@@popelgruner595 Indeed, which is why we are going to apply UK standards when trading in our own country. Don’t like it? Tough.
@Jermbot15
@Jermbot15 2 года назад
@@cobbler9113 It will be once your string of incompetent governments let your food and safety standards tank.
@niamhmoresmau6093
@niamhmoresmau6093 2 года назад
There have been some concerns expressed about the British Government's refusal to give live access to custom info for precisely this reason. So yes, it is a problem, apparently.
@Johnsmith47890
@Johnsmith47890 2 года назад
It’s actually so frustrating that the govt is giving in to a very small minority of extreme loyalists who think the protocol is an attack on their identity. The protocol is not perfect but it’s doing wonders for NI. Due to the complexity of NI, we need a special arrangement and can’t exactly be treated like mainland GB. Not to mention pretty much every unionist party campaigned for brexit and are now shedding tears over having to deal with the consequences of their own actions. Partition and division is the problem and we can change that…
@justusstahr1582
@justusstahr1582 2 года назад
26+6=1 is what i'm getting here
@nicktecky55
@nicktecky55 2 года назад
Unfortunately, the Commission don't agree with you, because Northern Ireland being "wholly in the EU, and wholly in the UK" is exactly what they signed off on. They agreed to the Special Status that delivered it long ago. There can be no border between NornIrn and the Republic or the rUK without the expressed consent of the people of NornIrn, the governments of UK and Ireland, and the EU and the US, they are the signatories of the GFA, it requires them to agree to its amendment. When did that happen? So, the question is: how did the Special Status deal get scuppered? As the Commission signed it off, it has to be political. Was it Merkel? Demanding that the "integrity of the single market is essential". Or Macron? Demanding "the British must be punished." Varadkar, on his walk in the garden with Boris? It can't be Boris, he knows he's a dead man walking since the VoC last week. It's more in his interests to insist on Special Status, after all it's supported by the largest single party in both NornIrn and the Republic; that's Sinn Fein.
@Kj16V
@Kj16V 2 года назад
If only Britain and Europe could join in some sort of union - a *European Union* of sorts. I bet that would fix things. Why has nobody thought of this "European Union" idea before??
@arasakaa
@arasakaa 2 года назад
Sadly it's impossible to implement because france exists
@finbarrmcgrath1686
@finbarrmcgrath1686 2 года назад
Just because you label it a green lane doesn’t mean the Irish will trust you more! That ship has sailed.
@TerribleFire
@TerribleFire 2 года назад
Brexit is impossible legally. Its fine and understandable if you live in the south east of England but everywhere else it causes masses of issues both legally and practically. All it did was make everything more expensive. Its pretty pointless
@matthewsanderson1234
@matthewsanderson1234 2 года назад
But even the south east is struggling, look at Dover, it’s fucked
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun
@i-dont-burn-under-the-sun 2 года назад
​@@Gary-bz1rf You can't sort out your own dirty clothing and then blame the EU, typical Brexetier behaviour. The UK wasn't the first nation exiting the EU, you know?
@TerribleFire
@TerribleFire 2 года назад
@@Gary-bz1rf Its nothing to do with the EU. Its all down to the laws and obligations we committed to as a country and frankly how the British Government treated the Irish over the centuries. Its English arrogance and ignorance thats caused this.
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
@@TerribleFire ahh yes, it’s all English ignorance and arrogance. The EU was perfect, this comment here is ironically quite ignorant.
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
What legal issues occurred in the rest of Britain?
@hotbeefymcd8162
@hotbeefymcd8162 2 года назад
For a country so keen to "take back control", particularly around trade and migration, its amazing to watch them expecting the EU to allow a major unprotected border with a non EU country to exist. Remember all the people that said "they need us more than we need them". Well if a trade war starts those people might be in for a shock.
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 года назад
Exactly!
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 2 года назад
I think they may be banking on the EU's unwillingness to punish the common people of the UK. A trade war with a food crisis looming already means that there could well be starvation in the UK if it happens.
@bobblue_west
@bobblue_west 2 года назад
Do you remoaners have a life outside of moaning about the vote to leave the EU?
@cosmedelustrac5842
@cosmedelustrac5842 2 года назад
I wonder what brexiters were expecting to happen in and about Northern Ireland when they voted leave.
@nonyabisness6306
@nonyabisness6306 2 года назад
Well, a bunch of them wanted to stay in the common market. Another bunch just thought a sensible deal could be reached. Which is possible the UK gov just refuses to.
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 года назад
They didn't think about NI at all. Btw, NI voted Remain
@bartholomewdan
@bartholomewdan 2 года назад
The sad thing is I don't think they cared.
@WhichDoctor1
@WhichDoctor1 2 года назад
Get Brexit done! Then get brexit done again. And then again. and again, and again, and... gods, this is never going to end is it?
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
What? It’s already done.
@jonaswladimir6889
@jonaswladimir6889 2 года назад
It is never ever will be done. In fact everytime EU or UK change any law/ regulation it starts over. Brexit the never ending story.
@ls200076
@ls200076 2 года назад
@@maxdavis7722 it's still in progress
@TheRflynn
@TheRflynn 2 года назад
Ireland changed its constitution to help implement the Northern agreement, it would be nice to think the UK had some equivalent sense of responsibility.
@HrHaakon
@HrHaakon 2 года назад
Now now, I'm more than certain that the UK would be willing to change the Irish constitution too...
@marthas8108
@marthas8108 2 года назад
HAHAHAHAH!!!
@jonoessex
@jonoessex 2 года назад
It changed it's constitution to give up it's official claim to NI. Not exactly a big sacrifice. The British had to release prisoners who had bombed their country and murdered their citizens.
@AvidCluelessGuy
@AvidCluelessGuy 2 года назад
Man, Brexit is and will always be a recurring mainstay subject for TLDR
@gillianhamilton6535
@gillianhamilton6535 2 года назад
No border, no problem. Let us just tear up the 1921 annexation of Ulster and forget about all this bureaucracy. Ireland for the Irish
@win7sony
@win7sony 2 года назад
I'm from England and I'm deeply ashamed of what the Brexit spivs, con-artists and exceptionalists have done. The UK's attitude towards the NI Protocol, using language like 'unilateral' as if the Republic of Ireland isn't a sovereign country that's also affected by this issue, is DISGUSTING. The stench of British imperialism and nationalism in the 21st century, smelt from Belfast to Bergamo. I hope we lose the negotiation and come out worse off, after all, it's what the "52%" voted for!
@win7sony
@win7sony 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby Blah blah yada yada, definitely an orangeman aren't you? With the way you and your voting cohort are taking things, I'd say you'd better get used to the Republic of Ireland, because you'll be living in it soon! I actually prefer our union to a 'UI' as it stands, but actions speak louder than words, and your actions (and the recent NI election results they caused) suggest you don't!
@maxwild1212
@maxwild1212 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby The people of Scotland and Northern Ireland who voted to remain in the EU, you mean?
@maxwild1212
@maxwild1212 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby The Northern Ireland protocol exists to begin with because of people like you casually disregarding their wishes, though.
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby Listen up Orangutan, Ireland never wanted you, you planted yourselves here and attacked and displaced the population while doing it. The only terrorists on these islands came here illegally. Your home is across the sea with your family. Unionists are welcome to stay here but not you gobshite loyalists. You're a vicious worthless people. Always have been and always will be.
@ThymeTwister
@ThymeTwister 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby hi, I'm Scottish. I'm not your family I'm afraid and you seen to have attached yourself to an identity that for most intents (and certainly as you describe) does not exist. I recommend you educate yourself on the strife, violence and corruption that led to and persisted the creation of this "community" you mention.
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 года назад
It's so depressing to live in the UK right now
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
How come?
@octavianpopescu4776
@octavianpopescu4776 2 года назад
Oh come on, it's not that bad. You have a good chance of winning the World Cup.
@Tazza81
@Tazza81 2 года назад
@@octavianpopescu4776 yeah, in 2166...
@carolinelabbott2451
@carolinelabbott2451 2 года назад
Highly depressing, and life shortening. I never thought I would live to see the day we would choose self entitled clowns to run this country into the ground. And just when you think things can't possibly get worse, Boris finds a way to do so. It's just so messed up. I feel so sorry for all the youth of today.
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 года назад
@@octavianpopescu4776 ….hahahah! Well I don’t like the England team, so even if they did (they don’t) that doesn’t make me happy
@b.willroth8384
@b.willroth8384 2 года назад
In this as always spot-on analysis you left out the domestic struggle the Johnson government and Bojo himself are facing currently and the likelihood that all this is a convenient distraction from more pressuring problems (energy prices, inflation, Covid rules, next Covid wave..). But that’s probably for a different video? Great work as always!
@goodgame3374
@goodgame3374 2 года назад
yeah trump was a master of distraction & bojo has been an astute student, learning most of the tricks (though he's not as malicious) & being equally inept at governing
@vaazig
@vaazig 2 года назад
@@goodgame3374 Not as malicious? Yeah right
@johnroach9026
@johnroach9026 2 года назад
@@vaazig Probably not as obviously malicious, I mean, he hasn't tried to launch a coup yet at least?
@sueyourself5413
@sueyourself5413 2 года назад
@@johnroach9026 Out of all the things Trump did, sparking a riot is not even in his top 100.
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 года назад
@@sueyourself5413 Trump did not only start riot, it was an attempted coup. He tried to and almost killed democracy in the US. That’s pretty bad imo.
@namelesssomebody2557
@namelesssomebody2557 2 года назад
At this point, It'd be easier and cheaper for Northern Ireland to re-unify with the Republic of Ireland
@maxdavis7722
@maxdavis7722 2 года назад
Or for the republic of Ireland to join the UK.
@Jake-rm4be
@Jake-rm4be 2 года назад
@@maxdavis7722 The right answer
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 года назад
@@maxdavis7722 Seeing as we despise ye and everything ye stand for and we're not starving to death in the EU........no thanks
@CKW10001
@CKW10001 2 года назад
🤣🤣🤣 a little Englander, Ireland is Irish and we want our 6 counties back. 😉
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@@CKW10001 but isn't England bigger than Ireland?
@SeanSMST
@SeanSMST 2 года назад
Article 16, Article 16, the British love to break their own agreement with a superpower like the EU
@nettcologne9186
@nettcologne9186 2 года назад
Is there any country with which the UK is actually not in a clinch?
@Daniboi971
@Daniboi971 2 года назад
erm.....Bhutan?
@starofdabloc
@starofdabloc 2 года назад
😂😂
@Mmjk_12
@Mmjk_12 2 года назад
@@Daniboi971 Bhutan doesn't even recognize the UK as a country lmao
@DerNatioller
@DerNatioller 2 года назад
Pretty much nations in the CANZUK, maybe not Canada because their current government are too insane to like any other nation apart from the crazy Biden regime and only historical diplomacy saves it.
@cyberpunk.386
@cyberpunk.386 2 года назад
Was Bojo drunk when he agreed to the Northern Ireland Protocol? Or is this how he navigates tricky international agreements? Sounds like a banana republic dictator.
@bartholomewdan
@bartholomewdan 2 года назад
He probably signed it while he was at one of his parties.
@Ganjor420
@Ganjor420 2 года назад
I think the first time I heard about the impossible contradiction between: The UK making their independant rules + Not having a border between the UK and EU in ireland, was like 2017... Who could have known that this will become a problem.
@Doso777
@Doso777 2 года назад
Everyone, that's who.
@Ganjor420
@Ganjor420 2 года назад
@@Doso777 Obviously not everyone... at lest not the last 2 Prime ministers of Britain :D
@gavinkemp7920
@gavinkemp7920 2 года назад
​@@Ganjor420 to be fair to Teresa May, I think she was fully aware of the issues and was trying her hardest to make it work. It didn't but she tried. The pm now is trying his best to not make it work, in fairness he is being more successful in his objective.
@Ganjor420
@Ganjor420 2 года назад
@@gavinkemp7920 yea I mean... you can't really be mad at someone for failing an impossible task. The problem is, I'm sure they knew it was impossible but straight up lied about having a plan.
@michaelraith9481
@michaelraith9481 2 года назад
The sheer disrespect the UK shows towards the EU is astonishing. They left, now they are "outsiders". Every time they throw a temper tantrum I wish the EU would react even harder to put them in their place.
@ancaoraathasach
@ancaoraathasach 2 года назад
That oven ready Brexit deal caused some serious food poisoning.
@monotonehell
@monotonehell 2 года назад
Has anyone worked out yet that "oven-ready" means "half-baked" ?
@SuperCatman
@SuperCatman 2 года назад
why does the UK think they have the leverage to do this? the EU clearly has the upper hand on all things related to the Irish border.
@Al3xandeer
@Al3xandeer 2 года назад
What are you talking about? Article 16 reads: 'the Union or the United Kingdom may unilaterally take appropriate safeguard measures...'. Whether the measure is appropriate is at the UK's discretion and for the court to potentially overrule. It's perfectly within the UK's remit. International law is upheld, but the EU crybabies seem to misunderstand this very basic concept.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 2 года назад
@@Al3xandeer For a limited time while arbitration is carried out. That's not what the UK are doing right now.
@Al3xandeer
@Al3xandeer 2 года назад
@@DaDunge That's a very imprecise statement. What are you even referring to? The UK is still within its right to invoke the article.
@DaDunge
@DaDunge 2 года назад
@@Al3xandeer Yes but it's not an indefinite end of the protocol, it is only on hold until a third party cna be found to arbitrate the dispute and arbitration have been gne through. I'm sure the Us would love to abritrate if you invoke it.
@Al3xandeer
@Al3xandeer 2 года назад
@@DaDunge That just emphasises the point that the UK is not held to break international law, at least not at this stage. EU officials are misleading
@Bibbedibob
@Bibbedibob 2 года назад
I feel like the only way this is gonna get properly resolved is if Northern Ireland reunites with the republic and joins the EU in the process 🤷
@joecater894
@joecater894 2 года назад
... not really... that wouldnt sort anything out... that will create big trouble. You have to bring both communities along with you.. in any case.. there simply isn't support and ROI could never afford the subsidy the UK currently pays NI... which is 3% the size of ROI GDP.
@Dpb_2008
@Dpb_2008 2 года назад
Ummmmm. I don't think that will happen here. That amount of economic burden put on the rest of Ireland will be massive not to mention dealing with all the unionists. I don't think people will go for it sadly
@Dpb_2008
@Dpb_2008 2 года назад
@@joecater894 ya but there is an obligation that the EU must pay if Ireland and Northern Ireland reunite. Aswell as the troubles started back up. It's very similar to what happened in Portugal and Greece. The finical part isn't the problem and never will be. Also I say Ireland could pay for it but it would lead to major budget cuts else where and Northern Ireland isn't that worth it.
@Subjagator
@Subjagator 2 года назад
@@joecater894 I am sure the EU would help out with any costs like that. The peace process in NI is one of the biggest major wins for both the EU peace project and the US foreign office, ending a civil war and then successfully uniting a divided community peacefully would be worth the cost to both the EU and the US.
@joecater894
@joecater894 2 года назад
@@Subjagator the peace process demands that NI remain in the UK.. and so it shall, unless changed via a referendum approved by the parent state (which in itself would be incredibly dangerous to peace, potentially). All polls show the unionist side would win (more due to disruption than anything... losing access to UK would bring). What costs? You mean they'd pay to bring NI GDP same as in the UK without incurring costs to ROI? No way... the EU has process and other nations would ask for the same! If you know anything about the EU at all you'd know that it would be quite impossible.
@dylanhunt4303
@dylanhunt4303 2 года назад
It was the EU who proposed the Green lane, red lane in the first place. They have been trying to find workable solutions like puting stickers on products " Ni sell only''.... I don't know how they have the patience to deal with our clowns...
@cravingtuna1561
@cravingtuna1561 2 года назад
The difference is that the EU is pragmatic and looks at things from a financial perspective while Brexit was purely sentimental.
@riskinhos
@riskinhos 2 года назад
it was UK that agreed. if they didn't like they could just walk out without any deal
@dylanhunt4303
@dylanhunt4303 2 года назад
@@cravingtuna1561 The EU exists on legal basis. Everything is does is law based. I don't know how Bojo and that frosty clown thought that you can sign a contract that says : you need to check these good, and think that doesn't really mean you have to check them. The UK can use its feeling all it wants but when you loadn money from a bank and the pay is due on a specific date, you can't go to the bank and say: I didn't think I would have to pay on the exact date, I don't feel like it and your aproch is to purest... you'll be in front of a judge within a week +))
@walshjoseph7991
@walshjoseph7991 2 года назад
Amazing this guy hasn't once commented on what the Northern Ireland majority want and what the business people of NI favour. This is the one of the roots of these problems. Any reputable people will respect their word and abide by what they agree and respect the law. Entering agreements without having done the proper homework and not respecting same is low and disgraceful. But look at the lies going on in Parliament on a daily basis, which clearly demonstrate the low level of integrity and honesty.
@Nasrudith
@Nasrudith 2 года назад
What exactly do they want and favor?
@Subjagator
@Subjagator 2 года назад
@@Nasrudith Obviously I can't speak for every one of them, but considering that the very recent election just put in place a majority of pro-protocol MLA's I would say the people are in favour of keeping and fixing it together instead of unilaterally tossing it. The only party asking for it to be unilaterally addressed is the DUP who just lost a bunch of seats because of that stance. To me anyway that looks like the people of NI want the NI protocol to stay for now.
@exploshaun
@exploshaun 2 года назад
At this point it's probably easier if N. Ireland just join Rep. of Ireland.
@Op37373
@Op37373 2 года назад
They probably will, for the first time ever Síne Fein (pro unification) got more seats than DPU (pro stay with UK) 27vs25
@darjeelingoffthegourd
@darjeelingoffthegourd 2 года назад
@@Op37373 comparing pro unionist vs pro referedum votes, pro referendum now has a very slight plurality with 41% of the votes compared to the unionist 40%. the rest are neutral on the matter, and just want peace to be maintained, but as a result of this, are really against the protocol being torn apart, as they felt it was a good middle ground.
@LordDim1
@LordDim1 2 года назад
@@Op37373 SF only overtook the DUP because of the splintering of the unionist vote. The total support for nationalist parties declined in the recent elections. Polling finds only 32% of northern Irish want unification
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Sucks for you, but that isn't going to happen. Instead, the UK will just unilaterally leave the EU customs union and Europe will be forced to deploy Frontex forces to the Irish border and Northern Ireland will continue to drift further and further away from Ireland.
@darjeelingoffthegourd
@darjeelingoffthegourd 2 года назад
@@mikemartin6748 so you'll happily have another civil war in northern ireland for the sake of brexit in ALL territories?
@handbanana4899
@handbanana4899 2 года назад
It says a lot about Labour that the UK is engaging in a *second* round of international pissing contests and *somehow* a viable, iconic replacement to BoJo hasn't been presented.
@sophiemason8444
@sophiemason8444 2 года назад
Starmer can't win Labour an election, is the problem. Most see him as a successor to Blair rather than actual change, and Blair's name is still tainted from Iraq. That said, while Starmer can't win Labour an election, BoJo CAN cause the Tories to lose an election. I hope they do.
@Bushflare
@Bushflare 2 года назад
@V1K1NGK3N you get the government you deserve.
@TheEvertw
@TheEvertw 2 года назад
Starmer is as fine PM-material as Britain has ever had, with a few exceptions. Much better than nobodies like e.g. Cameron or May. It says a lot about you and the British that you consider him less viable than Bozo, and that you somehow think being iconic says anything about the quality of a PM. I like my politicians boring and full of integrity, thank you very much.
@MDP1702
@MDP1702 2 года назад
Labour has risen in the polls though, currently placed at several % points above the conservative. Obviously the conservatives will keep a strong core with them no matter what Johnson does, unless he is too lenient and they move to the brexit/reform party.
@jgw9990
@jgw9990 2 года назад
@@TheEvertw Starmer is sadly operating under the handicap of leading a party of lunatics. Despite everything the conservatives have done they continue to win elections because people hate Labour that badly.
@MrGeorocks
@MrGeorocks 2 года назад
So Boris is being pressured by his backers again, and like the good boy he is, he's biting on command. Best bought politician ever 😁
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
I learned that the Tories do good things when elections are coming up and ended, also when the Tory government is in trouble.
@Bluesfan1780
@Bluesfan1780 2 года назад
@Somewhatskeptical I know they aren't good.
@peterpain6625
@peterpain6625 2 года назад
@Somewhatskeptical I suppose that's already a given. Question is "when" not "if" anymore. Not after that calamity of the brexit itself...
@Omni_Shambles
@Omni_Shambles 2 года назад
@Somewhatskeptical Omg are you dumb? Scotland will never have to give up the pound. Independent, or not.
@davidcwitkin6729
@davidcwitkin6729 2 года назад
Northern Ireland should just be allowed to finally hold the referendum it wants to and join with Ireland and have done with it, once and for all. It would make things a whole lot simpler and easier.
@hugogreen4916
@hugogreen4916 2 года назад
It created a border where there already was one. A geographical border. A deep sea. A 60 mile wide border.- at its narrowest. And a border that has barely a handful of crossing points . Between gb and Ni only one. So……..
@TheDrexxus
@TheDrexxus 2 года назад
I wonder if one day the conservative party will admit Brexit was a really, really bad fucking idea. I doubt it, because of politics, but I bet many of them are thinking it. It's hard for anyone sane or rational to deny the reality of the hardships, both existing and that are coming in the near future, that resulted from Brexit. Only the most staunch supporters of reality denial still think this was a great move.
@tomthumb2361
@tomthumb2361 2 года назад
The easiest trade deal in history continues to be insolubly problematic.
@Eikenhorst
@Eikenhorst 2 года назад
Right, with this green/red lane, who is going to tell that things passing through the green lane don't go to the EU, since there are no checks on the Irish border, you can't. So nobody would ever take the red lane. Same with the dual regulatory scheme, no way to tell if these goods don't go into Ireland as we don't check there. And then subsidies issue, which would give unfair advantage to NI businesses and the EU could only counter with import duties, except those can't be raised since there is no border to check what is imported into the EU. In short, without checks between the Irish border none of this is remotely feasible. Except such checks are infeasible due to the Good Friday Agreement......
@hamishf7444
@hamishf7444 2 года назад
This has been the case for 6 years and yet somehow the DUP and the Tories are of the belief that they can simply wish this conundrum out of existence. Quite frankly the backstop would have been a whole lot better than this debacle.
@joachimfrank4134
@joachimfrank4134 2 года назад
Loosing the trusted trader status would be quite a big thread, so even if the chance to be detected was small many companies would try to follow the green / red rule. If there was more trust between EU and UK the green / red rule would probably be a good idea.
@Subjagator
@Subjagator 2 года назад
I think what the UK forgets is that with trust based systems you start off with high amounts of checks and as those checks show people are following the rules you slowly build trust and slowly reduce checks. You don't start with automatically trusting the other party and having no checks because if you did how would you know if the system works or not without checks? The trusted red/green lane thing could work but the UK want to skip past the decades of trust building and just jump straight to the minimal checks part.
@aitruscolso
@aitruscolso 2 года назад
All of those Brexit videos are how I found your channel in the first place! Love all of your work!
@KathyClysm
@KathyClysm 2 года назад
Is this not just "have the cake and eat it too" 2.0? Like, this is the exact same attitude from 4 years ago and we all know how that worked out. Seriously, how shady is it to now use the Good Friday Agreement to push for this mess of a plan when they couldn't give a flying f*ck about any conflict potential on the Isle of Ireland before...
@dutchman7623
@dutchman7623 2 года назад
Europe doesn't hate them... Europe has come to an agreement with the UK... Europe waits for implementation... Europe: Nothing new on the Western Front...
@TheAmericanAmerican
@TheAmericanAmerican 2 года назад
Ah yes, happy to see England still wanting everything to stay exactly the same after the divorce THAT THEY WANTED is finalized.
@TheAmericanAmerican
@TheAmericanAmerican 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby cope, Brexiteer.
@user-lv6rn9cf8m
@user-lv6rn9cf8m 2 года назад
@@IHaveAHobby The English are the ones who are complaining and will do so even more. The rest of the world is just wondering what the **** the UK is doing. It's not complaining. It's trying to understand why you insist on making things worse for yourselves.
@mattwho81
@mattwho81 2 года назад
Any government competent enough to deliver Brexit... wouldn’t.
@PLATONU
@PLATONU 2 года назад
UK uses the Good Friday agreement as a hostage... nice move, but predictable one
@seb0rn739
@seb0rn739 2 года назад
I think NI will eventually end up with Ireland. Brexit made this possibility more propable than ever.
@rashomon351
@rashomon351 2 года назад
ah, british humor really is the best! ah, they still think, they're an empire. So funny. And best of all: there's a german being head of the European Council at that very time. And as we all know, germans do not have any sense of humor at all. She's actually taking that british hissy fit seriously ! Ah, I'm literally dying from laughter :D Thx Britain, there's so much trouble in the world right now, thx for lightening up the mood!
@philip013
@philip013 2 года назад
Don't think we've forgotten about the fish.
@deehaytch8442
@deehaytch8442 2 года назад
@@philip013 or the Nazi's
@philip013
@philip013 2 года назад
@@deehaytch8442 We're more like the Nazl's these days.
@TheWildmanden
@TheWildmanden 2 года назад
Didn't expect Brexit to be renewed for another season and they are really jumping the shark with this storyline
@Tazza81
@Tazza81 2 года назад
Fully agree. Seasons 3,4 and 5 really dragged on. Amazed it has being renewed for a 6th season.
@ganrimmonim
@ganrimmonim 2 года назад
Nobody's going to win in the sense of it being wonderful for them. However, the EU is going to win in the sense of it be better for them than the UK. All international bodies are going to back the EU, on a practically more important level so is the USA. Additionally the EU is much larger than the UK add to that the danger of re-enflamning troubles in Northern Ireland and having the UK government being largely to blame then albeit nobody really wins the UK loses and then some.
@joecater894
@joecater894 2 года назад
.. no they wont. There is legal provision in the treaty for this... the fact the eu dont like it doesn't change the fact... you just watch what happens when they try to take the UK to court... it wont go anywhere. The UK has been very careful and calculating about the timing of this... and it has waited for the correct evidence to grow that the conditions of A16 have been met. Trying to prove the UK is in breach of treaty at this point will be totally futile... the eu's best bet is an adjustment of the treaty.
@stevekildare4053
@stevekildare4053 2 года назад
@@joecater894 In Boris you trust 😂
@NoName-hg6cc
@NoName-hg6cc 2 года назад
@@joecater894 uk was already told not to breach the agreement. English can dream of unicorns all they want, Europeans prefer facts
@oak699
@oak699 2 года назад
What happened to the "technical solutions" to the customs checks dilemma? You know, the invisible flying unicorns with x-ray vision, hovering over every border crossing between RoI and NI?
@davidpeterson5647
@davidpeterson5647 2 года назад
Oh right, those unicorns got pissed in a pub in Glasgow and thought better of this shite!
@PLATONU
@PLATONU 2 года назад
a big sea snake called Realli-eté ate them
@josephgraney1928
@josephgraney1928 2 года назад
Just do Irish Reunification already and solve the problem. There's no way to resolve this with a 2-state solution without GB entering a customs union with the EU or violating the Good Friday agreement.
@josephgraney1928
@josephgraney1928 2 года назад
@@seang2700 Yeah, that's the game the brits are playing. When I say "do Irish Reunification", I don't mean "over the objections (and certainly not the bodies) of the brits". But it's super clear that, really, Northern Ireland isn't a priority to them. If it was, they would have worked out a customs union. GB has chosen forging their own path over Northern Ireland's interests, and that's okay. But they need to be honest about that, so that Unionists can make peace with the situation and accept Reunification without bloodshed. Instead, they are leading Northern Ireland on, and nothing good can come from it.
@DarkLordPikachu
@DarkLordPikachu 2 года назад
Ad break at the end was very cool
@Britain4775
@Britain4775 2 года назад
Maybe you left out the domestic struggle the Johnson government are facing currently and the likelihood that all this is a convenient distraction from more pressuring problems (energy prices, inflation,high housing price,immigrants..)
@frankieseward8667
@frankieseward8667 2 года назад
Bit this distraction can easily backfire.
@jim-es8qk
@jim-es8qk 2 года назад
I think you are right. The economy is shrinking, inflation is at a 30 year high and they keep putting taxes up. It is a very conveniently timed dispute with the EU.
@stoodmuffinpersonal3144
@stoodmuffinpersonal3144 2 года назад
pretty pressing for those along the border, no? It affects how goods can be transported accross the Uk and Ireland. It effects the Ecconomy. Brexit always was going to have negative impacts on the ecconomy. Those arent easily seperable issues
@ChroniclesOfCallum
@ChroniclesOfCallum 2 года назад
*Boris Johnson* and Europe's Battle over Ireland. Fixed it for you.
@carolinelabbott2451
@carolinelabbott2451 2 года назад
@It`s okay. No, it's about Boris and his nodding donkey's keeping hold of everything they shouldn't, and isolating Britain from the entire world. They have no wish to rejoin the EU ever.
@HiddenLethality
@HiddenLethality 2 года назад
Reunited 🇮🇪
@pelimies1818
@pelimies1818 2 года назад
Not Britain’s plan. It’s England’s plan. Shouldn’t the Irish people make the decision concerning them, not Boris, umm?
@Hession0Drasha
@Hession0Drasha 2 года назад
"Britains arogant plans for the irish border, and why the free world opposes them"
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Britain's plan for the Irish border: do nothing and let them smuggle British milk into the EU, lol.
@michaelmayhem350
@michaelmayhem350 2 года назад
Hopefully EU enforces the northern island protocol & Ireland reunites & Boris gets more egg on his face (if that's even possible)
@Conservator.
@Conservator. 2 года назад
Smugglers won’t even be checked and will bevallen to operate completely risk free. The EU surprisingly don’t agree with this. How inflexible of those bureaucrats.
@mikemartin6748
@mikemartin6748 2 года назад
Imagine the horrors of British toilet paper being smuggled into Europe. Better send of army of Eurocrats to stop it.
@Irish780
@Irish780 2 года назад
Boris is like a child making up his own rules as he plays his games
@sjoerdglaser2794
@sjoerdglaser2794 2 года назад
With this whole two lane stuff. What is stopping a savvy business in NI to buy stuff in GB, get it in NI through the green lane, and then sell it somehwere in the EU?
@rikulappi9664
@rikulappi9664 2 года назад
There were no real essential issues between the UK and the EU to justify Brexit! The only issues were internal UK domestic policy stuff which did not get solved by reorganizing the very foreign relations that didn't need fixing. Now the UK has real issues, not just with the EU but also within the Kingdom - all of them self made!
@carolinelabbott2451
@carolinelabbott2451 2 года назад
Yup.
@frederickkearney7798
@frederickkearney7798 2 года назад
At the end of the day, there is only one realistic solution to this situation: the full integration of the six counties into the Republic of Ireland.
@kindredgarlic4867
@kindredgarlic4867 2 года назад
Woah you guys actually bought an ad on your own video that’s brilliant
@constantius4654
@constantius4654 2 года назад
Most people in Northern Ireland support the NI protocol. The UK should call the bluff of the minority DUP who appear to loathe most of the people on the island of Ireland.
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