Frankie Fraser said about Kenneth Noye. ' If you found someone on your property lurking around at night, dressed in black with your wife and kids indoors what would you do? The detective was surprised he was found not guilty of murder.
Agreed. What other loving dad and husband wouldn’t do the same? Sending a copper on some stupid SAS mission? I blame the police for put one of their own in danger…
do you know WHY they had to sneak around ? cos they couldnt get a warrant why were they unable to get a warrant ? Cos some of Noyes mansion isnt owned by him its owned by the MOD its under the 100 year secrecy act of 1945 & you can be jailed ( eve as a copper ) without getting written approval from the home secretary who has no power to overrule law lords . 100 year secrecy act tells me that something sinister was under Noyes mansion . Its a bunker & Tunnel system . Wild guess it was the last resort if Germany invaded , Chemical & Bio weapons storage hence the 100 years ,2045 that becomes declassified
The weird thing is without the security guards they wouldnt have ever been able to get into the safes and steal the money... so really the place would have been safer without the security there
Something wrong somewhere. 6,800 gold bars each weighing 1 or 2 kilos (average 1.5kg) is 10,200 kg, 10.2 tons! 3 tons spread over 6,800 bars is about 440g per bar. Either that or there were only 2,000 bars.
@@yobeatthat85 Army chefs have put more bodies in the ground than the infantry. The catering course is the hardest course in the British army- no one passes!!
The security gaurd said because he was in the army. I done exactly what I was told to do 😂😂😂 nothing to do with the hand cannon pointing at his head bless him
interesting documentary. shame the producers got basic facts so wrong, which makes me question the validity of the whole programme. Tate, Tucker and Rolfe (aka Essex Boys) weren't murdered in a 1981 Ford Cortina, it was a 1989 Range Rover, The Brinks Mat getaway van was a Ford Transit not a Sherpa, oh and gold bars are not stored in cardboard boxes. If the accuracy is so off, what else is wrong in this show?
Basically correct...... Particularly about not trusting a rat like Noye who was a known grass and psychopathic killer....... Totally greedy, he's immediately looking for ways to take the gold. McAvoy should have had hsi connection shoot Noye....... He fucked it all up including 8 years for himself.....
Valuation of the gold is completely out. I don't know when the documentary was made but the highest price of gold ever registered is about USD 60,000 per kg. At 3,000kgs(narrator says "almost 3,000kgs") that's USD 180 million tops; so significantly less than GBP 150 million.
Yeah they forgot to tell you that each guy was the size of the Hulk. LOL. They must've had some type of process to load all that gold up into a truck or a vehicle with a great rear suspension.
Yeah something their didnt add up. Not to mention that van would never hold all that gold. That's a crap load of weight. Just think 60lb per trip to the van would take 120 trips just to move it to the van.
I don't get it.....13 years for having 11 gold bars but let off for stabbing someone 11 times ? Is that REALLY self defense ? Once...maybe but not 11 times. What on earth was going on in that jury room ?
No warrant , and at the time he’s found a man on his property in a balaclava , that didn’t identity himself as a policeman . . He claimed he had the knife as was changing a car battery with it of something similar . Was silly of the police in all honesty and
Let off because he was on his own property. Guys dressed like robbers on his property! He wasn’t let off he didn’t commit a crime by stabbing him he was protecting his family
Surprised no one else commented on the effect the Brink's gold had on the investment of ecstasy in Britain in the early 90s. 34:02 - If it is in fact true, that's something I've never heard before and seems quite monumental. It was a cultural shift. The massive influx of all those pills, all those raves, and all those wild times influenced by a gold robbery? It would make sense if it is indeed true...and pretty crazy.
Everyone pays, ya can’t just leave people to rot in prison, and then expect them to get out and forgive and forget, 16 years is a long time, so right whack to em,... We do the crime and the time and you get the money,that ain’t gonna fly baby...
It's been noted that if you're living in the UK and have purchased gold jewelery manufactured after 1983, you're probably wearing some of the Brinks-Mat stolen gold.
So this is basically the UK equivalent to the lufthansa heist in the U.S. Where the criminals stole so much money they couldn't even store/fence/track it all and the gangsters just started killing each other to cover it up.
very similar , the top players gave the game away when they started moving out of their little London flats to big houses out in the Kent countryside within months of the heist . McAvoy’s mistress moved out of her little flat to a big converted farmouse and bought 2 rottweilers she named “Brinks” and “Mat” , not exactly master criminals this lot
Great show.. Now if this where me i would of burried all that gold rite off the bat, sat on it for a year or 2 disappear for a while then slowly but steady start to melt it down in tiny little bits at a time.. Pure greed is all it is,, people think they have a plan then it all goes pete tong fast, they panic and thats when it all goes tits up!.!! Nice effort tho lol
The fact they used a Sherpa doesn't say to me, these guys are pro's.......... you're joking??!!!!! They're so shit......... utter shite!!!! The sliding driver's + passenger doors, are a plus but it's a very short list........ It would be an alibi, as far as I'm concerned, there's no way I'm on a job with a Sherpa for a getaway.......... Ayrton Senna driving the twat, wouldn't change my mind........... my arse, is right, mate.......
When moving concrete products I zip tied timber above the axles to stop the springs bottoming, I could then load 3.5 metric tons within, it did not handle well but it looked ok. Where there is a will there is a way....
11:40 6,800 bars of Gold each weighing 1 or 2 kg, About 3 tons ??? In a transit van.? Somebody is telling porky pies?? or are completely shit at maths??
The robbers thought that they were going to steal £3.2 million in cash,[4] but they found three long tons (3,000 kilograms; 98,000 troy ounces) of gold bullion[5] and stole £26 million[6] (over £87 million in 2018 pounds[7]) worth of gold, diamonds, and cash.[8] That was from Wikipedia. It explains it clearer, all with sources.
no they melted with 2p copper coins to hide carat of gold that was 24 carat gold- hence, obvious brinks mat- hence palmer shot dead. mcavoy 25yrs and sold his gold.
Man these guy's took a shit ton of gold and then just handed it over to one guy. Damn that's having some serious trust in someone. I would've buried the gold in a spot so good no one would've ever found the gold. I would just let it sit there until I get out of prison. Then still let it sit there til the cops are done watching me, then when the time is ready then I'll go get some gold and cash it in a little at a time.
me two wish i could get just one box i sell it and donate all the money to help find a cure to hiv -aids ive lost two of my best friends to the disease
Its Black that's the total rat in it all, first betrays his workmates by allowing the place to be robbed and guns pointed at them and covered with petrol, then secondly when questioned grasses up the people who's done it including his sister's husband. Totally betrayed both sets of people.
Interesting/informative/entertaining. Excellent reenactments reconstruction videos. enabling viewers to better understand what/whom the orator was describing. Special thanks to guest speakers sharing personal knowledge/experiences. Pertaining to forensic robbery investigations.. Making this documentary more authentic and possible. Last if not least the armed robbers themselves committing such a high profile robbery.
Once me and my 7 year old friend robbed a supermarket in Gothenburg, I who was 6 chickened out the first second, the score was swedish chocolate king size chocolate bars, i put it underneath my shirt and my shirt looked like a lable comparing to the heist..actually nobody knew our coning plan haha or the heist :) I walked fast through the cashdesk out...ate the whole thing in the woods with my friend..then later on my mother found out, I got some beatings...it turns out my friend who was with me rat me out..and today he is a famous swedish politican.
I thought of the same thing, issue with that is if it becomes common practice and robbers are aware of it, it might turn a nervous situation into a deadly paranoia that the code has been punched instead of the right one. and if the code isnt used during a heist, will the victims of the robbery be accused of aiding the robbers?
Well its essentially just like panic buttons that places such as banks etc have under desk's they are common place and known about by criminals. People who use them can also turn nervous situations into deadly paranoia and they are much more obvious. If the code wasn't used then it would be highly suspicious therefore you have 2 or more codes that need to be entered to gain access and one person would have one code. If any of the codes were the alarm code then it would alert authorities, essentially meaning you would have to have everyone with codes to be 'in on it' reducing the likelihood. Of course there are flaws with this system and it would need refined.
Or if the multiple doors are opened quicker thena set time of say 20 seconds a silent alarm could be tripped. I mean why would you be so eager to get to gold if you were not being forced to?
The essex murders didn't have anything to do with this gold, think that had more to do with the amount of drug dealers they kept turning over, lot of people think the police did that anyway.
Police probably wouldn't have had the authority or would have been best suited to something like that off, it would have been a professional MI5 hit team if anything.. and maybe taken out not because they were turning drug dealers over but because they were becoming more and more of a threat to the public with their antics...... it's still a mystery.. but i don't see the police force ever doing something like that without authority from above,,and if authority from above was in play then the Police wouldn't have been required.......and most certainly not he best option to carry it out...
A few years ago when I was good on them but at the end of the day staff were terrorised its not on its sick and disgusting however if it had been a con job and no one at all got hurt or terrorised thats a whole different thing
It ends with "only four people known to be directly involved with Brinks-Mat haven't been cast in the golds shadow of death"........they forgot Tony Black, the inside man. What an idiot. He may as well be dead because he surely cannot have much of a life.
To be fair to kenny Noye if anybody found a man dressed in black with a balaclava on in the back garden they might stab him too ... especially if your holding gold & expecting gangsters to take it with guns
10:46 A security guard managed to free himself and dial 999 and explains that 6 masked guys with pistols and machine guns just stole three tons of gold worth 26 million pounds. " 999 dispatcher informs them that police will arrive as soon as possible. 10:58 " an Elite Scotland yard squad arrives at the scene after 30 minutes...
Yeh well they messed that up by not forcing a fake entry, black was last in so always going to be looked at first.. Silly oversight after 9mths planning tut tut
4:20 - security guard - “because I was in the army I’m trained to do what I’m told” - so he complied straight away when told to lay down. “Despite being a veteran of many armed conflicts, he was frozen in fear” A glowing endorsement for British Army being hired as security!
What did you expect him do when he's got 6 automatic rifles pointed at him? You want him to try fight them like a hero and most likely get killed over some money that's not even his? The fact that he used to be in the army is irrelevant because this is real life not a movie.
@@andrewcheyne9917 I think this one has gone over your head!!! If someone brings up the fact they were in the armed forces you’d expect them to do something useful in a situation like this..instead of using their training to comply!!!
@@its_rick_james_bich2575 No no nothing went over my head at all! I think you should read my last comment again. If you're not smart enough to understand then that's your problem
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I can’t see how easily the robbers got into the room where the guards were. You would think that with the amount of gold and money it would be more secure than it was.
They had a guard on the inside , who told them about all the alarms ect, they had alarms and back up alarms, but the robbers knew this. As for the guards they were all soaked in petrol, would you risk going up like a bonfire for minimum wage.
Ok, the same security issue transpired ( 08-08-1963 ) Great train 🚆 robbery in Britain. 2.5 million pounds in a cargo area of train car un guarded. Just postal 📪 workers separating mail opposite caged area.
If anyone have the balls to rob a bank or its money and gold just give it to them and save your self other people's money or gold isnt worth dying for. I wouldn't try to be a hero and save the banks money.
I think most people are fascinated by, and secretly respect, a professional thief who steals using his intelligence and cunning, who is elegant, swift and causes no harm. A gentleman, in other words. Once violence and vicious threats come into play, a line has been crossed, and you pray that they get what’s coming to them. Sounds like most of them already have.
An elite Scotland Yard squad arrives on the scene with first on arrival Bill Miller - ....."On arrival i realised obvious the scene was a scene of violence because there were chairs scattered allover the place". 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 That just made me chuckle hard, probably see more chairs scattered about in a childrens nursery but never called a scene of violence and he's the Elite Flying Squad.
You're joking right? Only 2 of the 6 thieves' were ever caught (well 3 but 1 of those was acquitted in court) and in today's money (Feb 2020) the value of that gold alone is £130Mil ? 80% of the gold/cash from sales was never recovered. The two that caught caught only got busted because of that grass black. They also made billions more by investing that cash into fuelling and creating the UK ecstasy pandemic in the 80's/90's and billons more from their investment in the massive property growth around the London dockland. A few of the people involved could now afford to buy a small country....... Or do you mean that any amount of money, isn't worth a bit of a headache?
@@Midnightwhiskeymassacre Cheers buddy....... I'm not a thief or a murderer but I always wondered why they just didn't shoot Anthony Black on their way out the door...... it would of left no witnesses/evidence behind..... The 2 Black grassed/ got caught both got 25 years each anyway....... that sentence for theft (and also the Great Train Robbery, where they gave out 30-35 years each too) to me its says..... why leave a witness behind? .... When your getting more time for the robbery, than for a murder, the sentences would run concurrently anyway...... They just told the whole UK criminally world, you might as well kill a witness as you won't receive a harsher punishment for doing so and you will be much less likely to get caught if you so! Crazy mad world, if you think of it - I dread to think about how many innocent witnesses were murdered in other crimes because of this madness!
@@Midnightwhiskeymassacre haha - i'm so glad someone else agrees so I don't appear to be a total psycho !!! - Seriously, isn't it crazy and how people plan robberies for months/years so precisely but don't plan the afterwards or how they will deal with the police - lucky amateurs! hehe
There’s a well sourced theory that Tate borrowed money from Noye, I highly doubt it was actual proceeds from Brink Mat. Sounds like channel five are trying to hype it up even more than is needed haha
I laughed when Lee Sturley talked about people stealing gold that didn't belong to them at 30.25. It didn't belong to the Brinks Matt gang either and he couldn't even see the irony in what he was saying. Thanks for the upload
it is easier to get away with murder then get away with grand theft. stealing from the richest is retaliated by assassination. in other words, the richest are above the law. poor and rich are not equal in front of the law. gold heist would be investigated more thoroughly then murder. it makes me wonder how cheap/expandable human life has become.
£26 million (nearly 3 tons of gold) is globally very small sum of money and can't shake much gold markets. Here's the numbers of 2018 gold producers: China 404 tons, Australia 319 tons, Russia 297 tons, USA 222 tons. Whole global gold production: 3503 tons. Reserve: 54000 tons
They stole over six thousand bars of gold each weighing between one and two kilos three tonnes in total my maths ain’t that good but I’m sure that’s more like six tonnes if there’s 1000 kilograms to a tonne
The mistake they made was treating the gold like gold.The easy way would have been to paint it with lead and export it to a lead acid battery company they set up out of the country. Having a kiln at a lead acid battery manufacturing place would be normal. Trying to be clever is very much like being stupid.
Mac wanted it buried for 5 years that was the smart thing to do daft part is in 2024 that has lost 58 % of its value , 2 thousand dollars an oz now - then it was 2.8 thousand !
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These stupid robbers , steel gold and don't know what to do with it. It's like a shoplifters who steels clothes and dont have no one to buy their stolen goods. IDIOTS 😂😂😂😂
Dulcelina Cabral they didn't plan to STEAL 3 tons of gold bouillon... IDIOT 🤦🏻♂️ The combination to the 3 safes that held the millions in cash they were after were changed days prior and the guards didn't have the new combination 7:35 check it
Ive heard the biggest gangster in Britain and Europe is Dave courtney thats what my 3 year old daughter said .He was in the west end driving a huge car, think it was a vauxhall cavalier .
