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“The first country the Nazi’s conquered was Germany” a great quote to help understand that there were many germans who were simply caught between a rock and a hard place, and had to fight for their country, not the nazi party
Yes everyone thinks because Germany ruler was a nazi everyone is a nazi no that is false it like say that the USA present Biden is a democratic everyone is the USA is democratic so thanks you for posting that.
While not every German was a Nazi, they had the support of the vast majority of the German people, especially after the socialists and Communists were crushed. This notion that the people were duped or coerced into supporting them is disingenuous and patronizing; they knew how bad the Nazis were from the very beginning, but they supported them for simple reasons like “they’re good for the economy” or bc they thought not doing so would hurt their chances to get promoted. Check out Milton Meyer’s “They Thought They We’re Free” or better yet, just listen to Behind the Bastards podcast episodes about the “little germans”, the regular people who made the Nazi’s ascent to power possible. Perpetuating this notion that the German people were victims devalues the lessons one could learn from them, which might help explain the current rise of Fascism all across the world, especially in the USA.
@@Perfectly_Cromulent351 Also because ignorance is a bliss. As soon as those bombs started falling over Berlin they got the gist of what actually was going on. We shouldn't thrive for the "an eye for an eye" philosophy, but sometimes there isn't any other way to get the point across and instill some common sense.
@@Perfectly_Cromulent351 The problems are indeed politician that gain power and gain access to military, by simply enticing and lying to people, promise them paradise and give them death. That is also happening today. It doesn't matter what kind of "society" is build, politicians are peoples worst enemies and as soon as we understand that, we will be having much larger peace.
Such is the disposition of a central European conformist. It kind of had to happen anyways, this was an era where even Churchill and the Brits talked about wiping Germans out before it all began. It was just a horrible, mouth-frothed time. With the Soviets leaning on the border, having no internet, having to accumulate all your understandings from books and personal experiences.. It was just fate. A sad fate for literally everyone. Well, almost. But only that; most. The circumstances were that everyone had to fight for their countries and such at that point, I think ideologies came lastly in the end of all things.
Beck, don't ever apologize for trying to learn new things. Asking questions is a sign of intelligence and curiosity. Both my grandparents served in WW2. My grandmother was in the Army Nurse Corps and my grandfather was on a destroyer in the Pacific. Both just passed away in the past few years at 95 and 98 years old.
@@MrYabber ... and typical. At least she took the correction well, and was willing to reconsider her position, which is more than you can say for most.
nah. its kinda boring and doesnt tell enough. he was just pretty late forced to join the army. there are better videos about "real" vets fighting o the fronts.
I recommend the movie "Come And See" directed by Soviet filmmaker Elem Klimov. It shows the war highly accurate and drastic from eastern europe perspective through the eyes of two children.
@@Константинфирсов-и7б He's probably pissed because his Nazi buddies are presented as the monsters they were in the movie. He's also wrong, if what he means is the Soviets are presented positively. I watched Come and See (amazing movie) - the Soviets, while certainly presented better than the Nazis, are generally presented as either bloodthirsty or callous, and a bad influence on the young protagonist.
*27 Million Soviets* *20 Million Chinese* *7.4 Million Nazis* *6 Million Jews* *4 Million Dutch east Indies* *3.1 Million Japanese* *2.5 Million Indian Soldiers(under British Army)* *3 Million all others combined*
I hate how the original video says "Nazi Soldiers" instead of "German Soldiers" because it leads to the same that Ms. Norseman had in the reaction. Not all the Germans were Nazis, in fact most weren't. As a matter of fact, if any Nazi party members joined the German navy, they would be forced to give up their partyship because they valued duty over party.
@@theeternalsuperstar3773 Yeah, I would hope that the phrasing would be fine and self-explanatory what was meant and what was intended... But it is understandable for some people to have a wrongful impression or idea. I find it hard to imagine assuming or believing that an entire nation's military were exclusively evil individuals and that the Nazi elite, having committed what they did, wouldn't be above brainwashing and threatening one's loved ones/family members for forced conscription, etc. But I also believe she probably never sat and really put deep thought into it, and just wasn't aware; so she had a more black and white view. These two reactors spoke about it very well though, props. And she seems like a sweetheart and I'm certainly not questioning her intelligence or something. I also appreciate that he is clarifying this not just to prevent her from getting hate, but so that no german's watching potentially have their feelings hurt. It's a devastating subject to begin with. Cheering German deaths (I'm not saying she was doing so!) is a thing, and it's so wrong.
Annoyed me as well. I suppose the purpose is not to rub it in on present-day Germany, so that the it feels better to say "Nazi armies" and "Nazi troops" were invading and committing atrocities rather than "German" ones.
One thing that people don't seem to understand is that in the Soviet Union a lot of Soviet troops even generals admitted that if it wasn't for the United States sending them materials they probably wouldn't have won this war since they got a crap ton of material from the United States such as steel and iron and copper and food. So in reality It was a team effort that won the war not the Soviets on their own, but can't dismiss the massive Russian sacrifice. Everyone did their part and won the war together.
@@stratejic1020 It is especially funny to hear how the Allies helped the USSR in the war, when the United States supplied oil to Nazi Germany until 1943. The USSR was already leading a full-scale offensive against the Nazis by 1944, the help of the Allies only reduced Soviet losses, but was not a radical turning point of the war. Stop talking nonsense already.
@Stratejic USA was helping the Nazi with resources & oil stop lying. How can you supply Russia when U-boats control the sea another western lies to convince themselves they did something even the fight for Berlin U.K,USA stayed out of it knowing it was a death trap so again the Russian step up to end the German machine for good. You been watching too much Hollywood movies it's not real.
@@МаксимБрагин-х7с stop spreading bs propaganda what happened was that Standard Oil through its South American subsidiaries were selling oil to Germany.
7:32 There is a difference between fighting for your country and fighting for a political party. It's like saying that if you're in the British army you must support Brexit. Most German soldiers in WW2 were fighting for Germany as Germans, not for the Nazi party as Nazis. However, that said, many still committed horrible atrocities, but this is also true for most armies of this war. Furthermore, just because they were fighting for Germany and not the Nazis, that doesn't mean the ideas of the Nazis didn't effect them at all.
The friend here is not at all about whether or not German soldiers were members of the NSDAP, but whether they committed crimes. In the early stages of WW2, when Germany won, most of the German army was ordinary soldiers. It was not until 1943 that the large SS divisions began to assert themselves in the Wermacht. So if a German is crying here that not every German soldier was a Nazi, then it is true, but most of the crime was committed by the regular German army.
It also doesn’t help that he constantly refers to German soldiers as all nazi soldiers in the video, it’s hard not to be somewhat smug when you see “nazi soldiers” getting bodied
@14:15 A great book to learn about the trauma that the Einsatzgruppen (mobile killing units) went through is "Ordinary Men" by Christopher Browning. It's one of the most important books I've ever read in my life. Way to often when we talk about history we view it from the side of the victims, but rarely do we think about the side of the perpetrators. It's frightening really.
That's the whole reason they came up with the gas chambers. It creates an emotional distance between the murderer and the victims. The Nazis literally industrialized murder, just to go around the natural disgust humans have for that kind of act.
Если бы не народ СССР , все бы в концлагерях сидели . Люди должны бороться со злом и несправедливостью ежедневно и строить хороший мир и дружбу народов. И помнить сколько миллионов жизней стоило отстоять это . ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE--SW-3HTQd7Q.html .🥀😥
Сразу понятно что они не до конца понимают то что видят-бравые американцы уже в голливуде показали как войну в одиночку выйграл Брюс Уиллис-остальное для них фейк.
The nazis and the regular German military We're 2 different people the nazis Are the ones you think of when you think of World War II Germany but the regular German military They didn't always like what the nazis were doing Which is why towards the end of the war The Americans fought alongside the German military against the nazis. It was called the battle of castle Itter. The Battle of Castle Itter was fought in the Austrian North Tyrol village of Itter on 5 May 1945, in the last days of the European Theater of World War II. ... It is the only known time during the war in which Americans and Germans fought side by side against the nazis.
I love your shared interest in history and your earnest desire to expand your understanding. It’s so cool and I share your enthusiasm. Beck, no need to put yourself down. We all start out learning something for the first time. It’s your willingness to learn that counts.
Thanks to both of you for taking an interest in history, especially this time period. I wish my own kids would have the curiosity that the two of you demonstrate.
My grandmothers brother was 19 when he got drafted directly from the obligatory military conscription. His family and him tried everything so he could stay home. It didn't work. He had to go to Russia and went missing after 6 months. He was 20. He didn't ask for any of this, nor did he know everything that was going on like people these days do because they have got hindsight and a computer. Being sent to war was a death sentence, especially if you were sent east.
17:47 Another mistake. GUlag was not a camp. GULag is "Главное Управление Лагерей" (Headquarters of camps). Not a camp itself. It was labour camps for criminals and traitors. Conditions were tough (climate and war times). Things prizoners did, built etc. were important for country, for victory. Somebody should did it. And better criminals suffer (trying to atone their guilty) then innocent people. Innocent people work hard too at time of war. Interesting fact that In USA prisons nowadays are more people then at all stalin's prizons for all time. 40% of all nowadays prizoners are in USA. Remember Guantanamo? It still exists. Wemen and children starving, but not on the streets. They work hard anyway, Even children. Interesting fact: there were no unemployment in USSR. At all. Untill your f*cking democracy in 1991. People were not rich, but they all had job, free medcine, free education (school, high school and University), free travelling across our big country and they didn't starving. There were no jeans, Macdonalds, porno and other such stuff, but they got more important things. You sold us silly idea of infinite consumption instead producing. =\ P.S. Excuse me. too much emotions)
17:47 On Stalin's mentality... Stalin had a son, Yakov Dzhugashvili, who he hated and was later captured by the nazis. The nazis thought they could use him as a bargaining chip to trade back to Stalin in return for Nazi generals. In response, Stalin said, "I do not trade generals for soldiers". 🤯
@@Volthoom - You are correct. Though the gist of the quote stands. It's been simplified, an accepted bastardization version of what he said. To paraphrase from an article in Russia Beyond, dated OCT 22, 2020 by Boris Egorov ... "After the battle of Stalingrad, the Germans used the mediation of Swedish diplomat Count Folke Bernadotte and the Red Cross to offer Stalin an exchange of his son for Field Marshal Friedrich Paulus and several dozen high-ranking 6th Army officers held in Soviet captivity. Today, we can only speculate about what Stalin thought about such an exchange. The established view in the Soviet Union in the post-war period was that the Soviet leader replied icily to the German proposal: "I won't exchange a soldier for a field marshal." There is no documentary confirmation, however, that he actually uttered this phrase. The supreme leader's daughter, Svetlana Alliluyeva, recalled that a little after these events, in the winter of 1943-44, her agitated and incensed father referred to the failed deal: "The Germans proposed exchanging Yasha for some of their people… Was I to start bargaining with them? No, war is war." www.rbth.com/history/332880-why-didnt-stalin-rescue-his-son
I have a recommendation to help her better understand that not all germans in ww2 were bad. Basically any video where german veterans were interviewed here on RU-vid. The one's that are most popular are relatively short, so I'm not asking for a documentary, just some short video(s)!
I definitely will check those out! I don’t know why it didn’t occur to me that people might have been threatened and forced into being in the German army and into doing all those terrible things. Thank you!
A lot of that is revisionist history. The fact of the matter is is that most Germans were either Nazi’s or indifferent about the Nazi’s and passively supported them bc they saw the personal benefits of doing so. You also had an entire generation raised on propaganda and early military indoctrination through the Hitler Youth, so one could argue that a lot of that was out of their hands, but it doesn’t change the fact that regular troops committed indescribable atrocities, especially in the east and especially when compared to other combatant nations. There’s this narrative these days that these soldiers were “forced” into fighting, and while they may have been true once the tide turned, most went eagerly.
History is written by the Victor's the British used scorched earth in South Asia against Japan where 3 million civillians starved . I'm not saying that Nazi were good. But Churchill was no Hero. 😞 What's worse is that British didn't even try to save them Churchill ignored his governors advice.
@@jonathonfrazier6622 I don't agree Churchill's move was heavily criticized by his Governor And Offers of Grains from Australia were Ignored I believe you are either British or Don't know Anything about Scorched earth tactics you evacuate the citizens before using it instead Churchill left them to die. If you are so proud ask anyone who is from Myanmar Bangladesh or India Who do you like more Hitler or Churchill They would say Hitler
I've read once that about 5-10% of the world population died in the Mongol conquests (the world population was 400 million people). The brutality of these conquests were sometimes insane, terror for example was a deliberate strategy to make cities surrender without even fighting (if they resisted, they were made an example, and almost everyone killed). And you could even add the death count of the Black Plague, which is thought to be a byproduct of the war between the Mongols and China.
My maternal great great grandfather Richard Samuel Baker was a ARP warden during the London Blitz, he was killed on the 9th of December 1940 during a air raid. He was 53 years old.
Thank you. In the comment section of your "Oversimplified - Cold War Part 2" video, i recommended that you both should watch this video and the second one, that was done by the same guy, which estimates the consequences of a nuclear war at the height of the cold war. I don't know if you saw my comment and reacted to this video because of it, but nevertheless, good timing. I also would like to point out that i'm not offended by what you said, although i am a german and the grandson of a german WW2 veteran. I think the reason why WW1 casualties are not that high is mostly because of the amount of civilians that were killed in both wars. While there were of course civilian casualties in WW1, it is not even close to the amount of civilian deaths in WW2, because of mass bombings and ethnic cleansing. Regarding military deaths it was still devastating. For example, for both France and the UK WW1 was still the bloodiest war in history because they lost more people in WW1 than in WW2. There is a video made about the casualties of WW1 in the same fashion and inspired by this video, but its not from the same guy. If you would like to learn more about the german perspective of WW2, there are some interviews of german WW2 veterans here on youtube. There is also a very good movie, consisting of, i think, 3 parts. I think in english the title is "Generation War". In german the title is "Unsere Mütter, unsere Väter" which means "Our mothers, our fathers". So, now i have smashed everything i wanted to say in one comment. I hope this is more convenient than writing multiple comments.
My grandfathers brother fought on the western front. He was deeper in France when Normandy happened. He surrendered by Belgium and spent the remainder of the war in a Canadian POW camp and then immigrated to America. When asked about the war he would only say you do what you have too to survive. He wouldn't talk much about his time fighting. But he did admit he knew about some of the atrocities but was to afraid to say anything out of fear of being severely punished and or executed. He always said he was a coward and that he would have to make peace with that when he dies and meets God he would be punished for his non action. I don't condone the actions that the Germans did in World War II I myself do not know what I would do if I was in my grandfather's brother's position I hope I would be a better person but I'm not sure if I would and I hope I never would have to make that choice
Since you're British, I recommend watching RealLifeLore's video "The Loss Of Life in WW1 Visualized". It's the equivalent of this one but not for WW2. WW1 remains the bloodiest war in British history.
Beck, you don't need to be sorry for slagging off Nazi's haha. They were awful. It's just important to remember that many Germans were not Nazi's, many were just innocent men, women and children and many fought against the Nazi's and were killed for their efforts. Toward the end of the war many old men and young children were drafted (as young as 13 years old) to fight against the allied forces entering Germany. Two examples of Germans who resisted are Sophia Magdalena Scholl and her brother Hans Fritz Scholl who both executed by the Nazi's for their White Rose anti-war movement and anti-Nazi resistance, sending pamphlets out that argued against the Nazi's while they were at the University of Munich. They were both executed by guillotine for "high treason". Sophia was only 17 years old and her brother was 24 years old. It is also important to remember that Nazism is a political ideology that was held by many non-Germans in places like Austria and the Czech Republic. The Nazi's also set up governments in countries they conquered, like Norway, France, Denmark and other places, that were run by people from those countries that believed in Nazi ideas. In Norway for example, the Nazi's installed a man called Vidkun Quisling as Prime Minister of Norway. He was a Norwegian military officer and politician but also a Nazi. After the war the Norwegian government charged him with embezzlement, murder, and high treason for his collaborating with the Nazi's, and he was executed by firing squad.
I feel she should feel bad, there is a difference between a bad nazi who believed in what they were doing and a German soldier who was already in the army before the war started and was serving his country and didnt support what was happening. She shouldn't say something that people will find offensive without thinking. Like I said there is a big difference between a german who believed in being superior and executing civilians left and right and a german soldier who hated what was happening. Most didnt even know about what was truly happening. I might just unsub tbh lol
You should see the interviews of German veterans. For example some who fought during the D-Day said they couldn't even look while shooting because it was atrocious from their point of view. It's also a bit sad that many soldiers fought for their country and received medals but they cannot show them because there are swastikas on them and (almost) everyone consider them monsters because of pop culture. Also consider that today we know a lot about WW2 but when it was happening people didn't have the same access to information as we have today and they didn't have the whole picture, especially in regimes like the Nazism, so it's hard to say what was the general actual feeling in the German lines, whether or not they realized what they were doing, etc
There's always a lot of anger towards soldiers of our enemies. But most German soldiers were average persons, like you and I. They were drafted or forced to serve the Nazis. People don't understand these days, in a world where your nation and mine are entirely volunteer soldiers. But like American soldiers who were sent to fight in Vietnam even though the didn't support the war... Soldiers do as they're told or, they are arrested and sometimes faced firing squad. In WWII, a German soldier was afraid to disobey orders because the SS squads brutal..and they didn't want to face them.
Mmm not really. The Nazi Party was the overwhelming popular party in Germany. Germany and Italy as fascist countries during WWII are incomparable in their countries’ leading parties. Hitler, unlike Mussolini, had a massive approval rating amongst the German common-person. Mussolini was quite literally ripped from his place in government and hanged by his people. I’m not doubting that there were plenty of German soldiers who weren’t Nazis, but there is a reason why Hitler lasted for so long there and had such raving support among his people. Germany, much like Russia for the prior 30+ years before WWII, was beyond torn in regards to politics, their economy, and unification of the German people. The way that the Entente punished Germany in the Treaty of Versailles was the final straw in the creation of a country whose politics surrounded the absolute genocide of an ethnicity that the German people felt they had no other choice but to blame. Over the course of 15 years, German leadership grew stronger and the economy began to stabilize under Hitler’s war efforts. This gave the people a purpose to follow him. It was most certainly an act of coercion through force, but also through Hitler’s emotional wit and his strength as a leader. Do not be fooled by this above comment into believing that “most” were forced to serve the Nazis. It was a choice that the majority of Germans (who had not fled or had been snatched up by the police) made and stood by up until their eventual loss.
@@GamingSaurusRexYTube hmmmm interesting but not completely true. The Nazi party wasn't originally the majority. They used fear and force to take power and to grow their numbers. In the 1932 election runoff, German Chancellor Paul von Hindenburg had 53% of the vote, Hitler had 36.8%. Under a hostile political climate, Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor in January 1933. When Hindenburg's died in 1934, Hitler assumed the presidency, which he combined with the chancellorship to become the Führer und Reichskanzler. People joined the Nazi party for multiple reasons, out of intimidation, to fit in, to gain or hold onto wealth or power...not all of them were in compliance with the Nazi ideology.
What about the Indian deaths caused by british in Bengal? Millions of people died by famine created by the Brits. They just simply ignored the indian part...😁
I think it's also important to point out that almost 1 million British soldiers died in WW1 (double that of WW2), and 1.5 million French soldiers died in WW1 (almost triple that of WW2). Not to say that the death toll of WW2 is in any way less significant, but that's why remembrance day is still so important.
18:15 For soviet people there was no dilemma. This is about ideology. For example in my school all graduates went on front the next day after war began. Graduation was on eve of beginning war(same day for all USSR) Few of them back. We've got a memorial with their names on school wall. And we've got museum on the groun floor in school. with letters and different stuff of this war. Building of school was a hospital in 1941-45 People go to front and fight till death not for relatives, but for survival of our nation. And we believed that we defend not only USSR, but the whole world.
I hate how they call the Germans Nazis in this video. Most of the German lives lost were the men of the Wehrmacht the German military, they had nothing to do with what the NSDAP(Nazis) did and they also knew nothing about it. The German military was just fighting for their country and family not the party. So I hate it when she said they are fighting for the Nazis, because they weren't fighting for a dumb party. The fact is the German Military and the SS had a bad relationship towards each other. Also She sees the world in black and white because the world is grey. also not all of them wore the SS uniform. There were the Wehrmacht, SS, Luftwaffe, and Kriegsmarine. only one of those is a branch of the party which is the SS.
One thing that's important to recognize when looking back on events like these is that, given the events going on in Germany at the time, whether it be kids being sent off to camps to be "educated", where boys were taught only to fight, and girls were taught to have children, or how not greeting someone with the phrase "heil Hitler" was grounds for at least arrest, if not execution, many of the soldiers weren't "Nazi's". It's a bit like saying all of the soldiers fighting for the U.S. were democrats, since the democrat party largely controlled the U.S. Government at the time. Recognize that, for average people, like you or I, if we were born in Germany when the Nazi's were in power, we would be Nazi's. It's nice and all to think that you would resist the evil oppression of the time, but would you really? Would you risk not just your life, but the life of everyone around you for the sake of resisting, when realistically speaking, you likely wouldn't have even known any better? Or would you keep your head down? Very very few people resisted in Nazi Germany, because doing so often meant death. For the overwhelming majority of the German population, they didn't have a choice, and for the ones that did have a choice, it was often criminally stupid to resist. What's also important to recognize, is that these people were, well, people. With lives and families, as much as you or I. For many, it was simply their job, even if they didn't agree with the cause they were fighting for. Take Soviet deaths, for example. The soviets were initially allied with Germany, does them switching sides midway through the conflict suddenly make their deaths sad now? Or were they sad to begin with?
Maybe it doesn't make sense, but being drafted for the Nazi military (read German military) would be no different from any other military draft past or present, whether it was Germany, US, UK, USSR/Russia, Japan, etc. Most of those kids were oblivious to the incoming disaster, and barely cognizant of the meaning of war, as is the case with today's soldiers who are generally too young to be instilled with the needed wisdom to show the middle finger to the state.
That German comment was amusing, but I understood. Franz Stigler was a good one. Had the opportunity to shoot down a B-17 but it was wounded and defenseless so he actually escorted pilot Charlie Brown of "Ye Olde Pub" back to the channel, saluted, and left. Both pilots survived the war and met up years later.
Stalin did not allowed civilians to flee because that would send a message to the germans that the people were willing to defend their city at all cost and because it would raise the Soviet morale , something like that.
If you want to learn more about the Mongol invasions I cannot recommend Dan Carlin's "Wrath of the Khans" hardcore history episodes highly enough. It's a five part series on the Mongol invasions with each part ranging from 1-2 hours in length. Carlin does a TON of research putting together hardcore history so it goes into amazing detail and he's brilliant at keeping it entertaining as well. He had a background in radio before he started doing his history podcasts.
I think its important to note here, there's a difference between a German soldier and a Nazi soldier. Many German soldiers were fighting for the Nazi ideology but not necessarily by choice. Some did, I'm sure. But many more didnt. Germany suffered under Hitlers regime as well, and soldiers he controlled by threatening their families. So, if someone had a gun to the head of your 4 year old daughter and will pull that trigger if you dont fight for the fuhrers cause, what do you intend to do? There's no excuse for what Hitler did, and there's no excuse for the atrocities his Thrid Reicht did, and they did much. But don't forget the larger group of soldiers who were trying to save their families but doing things that they didn't want to, but understanding they had no power to change it. Most parents I believe would make this same choice to save their children.
What’s weird about not hearing much about the Asian theatre is that we had British colonies in Asia that REALLY helped us in the war. It’s wrong that we don’t get taught about it.
As a son of an American Ranger, that served D Day and Hurtgen Forest, I'm still learning. I had to explain to my 14 year old, that it's easy to hate, but hard to love and forgive. I'm a combat veteran myself, but I don't hate my enemies. The Germans didn't want to fight. The Nazis were the evil ones. Don't confuse the two. Much of history is not in the history books. I have mad respect because you are willing to learn. Many don't and want to assume. That's why there is still so much hatred. I'll be watching from a far. Much love. There is another video that is similar, about WW1, called The Dead of WW1 Visualized.
@@BigAl2-u7e A study by American colonel Trevor Dupuy found that German combat efficiency was higher than both the British and American armies. You can find the study on this book: War and Peace and War: The Rise and Fall of Empires by Peter Turchin
@Imperial Terra unfortunately so. But eventually the cream will rise to the top once more. Those built to face adversity will be fine and the weaker and less adaptable will fall short all over again.
@@TehIdiotOne 10/10 response. An absolutely eloquent delivery. I can merely appreciate it awe at the immense intellectual capacity of your counter-argument(s).
Soldiers in the Wehrmacht weren't necessarily all forced to fight... that being said, the Nazis were very good at manipulating information (to the point that even today, a lot of people believe falsehoods manufactured by the Nazis about the Soviet army). When Germany invaded Poland, they made it look like it was Poland that started it, so that public opinion in Germany wouldn't be against the war. Most Wehrmacht soldiers weren't really aware of the atrocities the SS were committing behind the front lines, because the Nazis were hiding that information to the general public. There were rumors, of course, of what was happening, but when you're drafted to go fight somewhere, rumors aren't really going to be a priority in your mind. So even though not all of the Wehrmacht soldiers were forced to fight per se, it still doesn't mean they were all Nazis. The great majority of German people, be it civilians or soldiers, became aware of what was happening when it all ended. That being said, however, we can still debate about a lot of things surrounding that whole issue. Let's not forget that a lot of people still supported the Nazis despite knowing they were antisemites and warmongering. It's just that the great majority weren't aware of the extermination thing, which was a step too far for many people and the Nazis knew it (hence why they decided to hide that information). Oh, and mobile killing squads *were* made of SS soldiers. Those can be considered to be the bad guys. They were brainwashed by the Nazi regime to be totally loyal to the cause. Those knew what they were doing and weren't exactly forced to do it. But it still had an effect on their mind (I mean, even Himmler was disgusted by it), so they came up with the gas chambers. They considered it "cleaner", and it didn't have the psychological effect that directly shooting people had (which even their brainwashing couldn't eliminate). They literally came up with industrialized murder to go around the natural psychological response that any human would have from killing huge numbers of people.
The numbers attributed to Stalin are VERY generous at 20 million, 140 million would be quite unreasonable due to the fact that the total population of the Soviet Union after the war was about 100 million at most.
If you guys want to learn a little bit about what the Chinese went through during WWII then please react to "Playing the Victim | Historical Revisionism and Japan" by Knowing Better.
When discussing the use of the Atomic Bombs in 1945 against Japan, the official documents include both cities as military targets because the Japanese civilians would have joined in fighting the Americans and the Allies, had the planned land invasion (Operation Downfall) of the Japanese Home Island taken place. Not saying that it was a good thing, but it was necessary to end the war and save countless millions on both sides. This kind of all out total barbaric fighting was seen in previous battles such as Okinawa and Iwo Jima along with several other battles during the Island Hopping Campaigns. The Japanese believed that surrendering was a former of dishonor and that fighting to the death was the only way to achieve honor. People don't understand how devastating a full land invasion of the home island would have been not just to the Americans and Allies, but to the Japanese citizenry which would have essentially been wiped out.
Were the atomic bombings necessary to end the war quickly? Yes. Were they still unforgivable atrocities and crimes against humanity? Also yes. Killing people is still horrible, the intent is important to understand why, but it doesn't change the fact that you're still killing people.
I understand her reaction, however most of the German soldiers didn’t believe in the Nazi ideology and were just fighting for their country. The Wehrmacht were the standard Army.
Most radical nazis at the time were kids. Because in 1933 Hitler changed the education system to indoctrinate the youth into the nazi ideology. And to believe the aryan race was superior.
every one of us has the potential for evil. its necessary to realize this to understand what humans are capable of. and why all sacrifices in this war is just truly a true tragedy on all sides.
Dont you worry girl, holding your own opinion with what level of information you have about something is totally natural! Say whatever your thinking, i and others will appreciate that :)
16 percent is almost one in 5. When you add wounded there's almost a 50 percent chance that any person you met at the end of the war in Poland knew someone who was dead or wounded.
This was dead serious. I'm not being flip. And you two seem more real than most who do reaction videos to play themselves up. I truly appreciate it. Thank you. Some of my uncles volunteered and died. My dad had lung cancer and was turned down.
If you want to watch a horrifying video on what Japan actually did when they invented China you should check out "playing the victim: historical revisionism of Japan " its a little old but really good.
The narrator said all 2,500 Americans died on the beach, thats just wrong, around 800 died on the beach, 2,500 is the rough official death toll for the landing AND the battle that came afterwards, a rough day 😢
Loved the interlude. And yes I really do understand her point. But just to add to it a little, my granddad was Polish of German stock. He was made to fight for Nazi Germany on the threat of execution. He was stationed in Normandy on June 6 1944 and was scared shitless throughout, and really didn't want to be there. A few weeks after D-Day, he and his Polish mates surrendered to the advancing American army and was then transported to Britain. So yeah, the Wehrmacht really was made up of various 'kids' with varying degrees of fanaticism. I'd guess the vast majority were fighting just to stay alive.
Many people know about Auschwitz but few seem to understand about Dachau, which was the second most deadly concentration camp. My great- uncle was in charge of the liberation as they moved into Germany. They took all the German soldiers line them up and shot them after seeing what atrocities they had done. Only two German soldiers survived that day 13 year old boy and a nurse. The SS were the ones that you would call a Nazi, the rest of the German army were conscripts or people forced to fight.
i know france is considered a war meme but, during the invasion of france many french soldiers wanted to continue to fight the germans but they were forced to surrender by their own higherups
If you guys are serious about learning more about the Mongols you should start with the Biographics video on Subutai: Genghis Khan’s Demon Dog of War. Here's the link ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-UGOT36kbdME.html
Now, no wonder that Poles consider British as traitors....it's just the fact. UK promised to help us (signed a treaty before the war had erupted) and ultimately did nothing...Don't Poles will ever forget about it. Peace.
In my opinion we shouldn't judge someone from the past form their actions. Nowadays people have different mentalities in comparison to the people from those days. Today when you think about honor and patriotism you think about loyalty, honesty, respect, integrity and love your country and love your identity and you dont need to follow politics or serve in the army to show patriotism. While in those times honor and patriotism meant serving the armed forces, serving your leaders and obey and bringing honor to your family's name and flag. Keep in mind that in the past it was normal and the norm to own slaves and now times has change because people change. That's why we shouldn't judge people from their actions based on our morals.
The horrors of what the Soviets had to endure and pay in blood and lives during WWII was of their own making and their own fault, now I know that some people MIGHT be upset with me for saying what I am about to say, but I am going to say it anyway, This is ANOTHER reason WHY COMMUNISM and SOCIALISM SUCKS on every concievable level, when Vladimir Lenin, Joseph Stalin, and the rest of the communists, did the Russian revolution in 1917, and captured the Russian Royal Family, before MURDERING them all, the extremely oppressive government they created under the ideals of communism, left the entire country not equipped for the Nazi's when they flooded across the border, the Russian revolution happened in 1917, and VERY QUICKLY the NEW government, led by Vladimir Lenin, began confiscating all the privately owned firearms and ammunition from the citizenry, with the exception of hunting firearms from remotely located people who NEEDED those firearms to survive, and after Vladimir's death in 1924, Joseph Stalin took over he decided that not even those will be allowed, so the ENTIRE Russian populace was completely and totally disarmed by 1926, NOW spring forward to June 22nd of 1941, only 15 years AFTER the complete and total disarmament of the entire populace of the country, they were now being forced (BY THEIR OWN GOVERNMENT) to shoulder nearly HALF of the total deaths of WWII, these numbers that the Soviet Government gave are "HOTLY DISPUTED" for a reason, but the truth is that Joseph Stalin "ADMITTED" to losing as many as 21,000,000 Russian people both Military and civilian, the TRUTH is likely that number is probably about 40% to 50% higher, and TODAY, we are seeing the very same thing play out, in 1992 when Ukraine broke away from the failed state of the Soviet Union, they elected their own leaders in their own government, BUT the leaders (DESPITE HAVING 28 YEARS TO DO SO) DID NOT, establish any sort of private armament of the population, they were no longer part of the Soviet Union, the VERY BEST THING that they could have done was invite the very best firearms manufacturers in to build factories and start a civilian training program so the population had access to privately own firearms and ammo, if they had done that, not only would Vladimir Putin never have even let the idea of invading Ukraine creep into his mind, he would never have done something so suicidal, just like in WWII, IF the people of the Soviet Union HAD NOT been completely and totally disarmed, Adolph Hitler WOULD NEVER have invaded the Soviet Union, and some of you might say that I am wrong, well I can PROVE that I am right, #1. open up a world map of Europe dated in 1941, #2. find Switzerland on that map, #3. ask yourself why Adolph Hitler, even though he already conquered EVERY other country surrounding Switzerland and (DESPITE THE FACT THAT HE WANTED TO COMPLETELY STEAL THE FINANCIAL ASSETS IN THE COUNTRY's BANKS,) NEVER ONCE, even gave a fleeting thought to actually invading Switzerland, WELL, the reason is that in 1940, during a visit to Switzerland he sat down with the Swiss Prime Minister and during that conversation he asked the Prime Minister, "What will you do when I march my Nazi Army across the border to conquer your country?" The answer he got was NOT what he wanted to hear, when the Prime Minister told him, "Well, every male from the age of 14 to 80 will show up, shoot 1 Nazi, and go home because your Army will be dead." After Hitler left Switzerland, the Prime Minister then got on the radio and for the FIRST and ONLY time in the country's long history, called up the Swiss Militia up to grab their firearms and ammo and show up prepared to defend their borders against a possible invasion, he repeated this radio announcement every 12 hours for 2 weeks, he also sent a letter to Adolph Hitler with the transcript of what the message was, he knew that Adolph Hitler HEARD it, and Hitler KNEW that Switzerland was a prize he was never going to Conquer. sadly a very similar fate befell the Chinese during WWII, as they also had already surrendered their personal firearms to the communistic government of Mao ZeDong, so when the Japanese came across the sea of Japan, Guess what, Despite having a MASSIVE population advantage over the Japanese, the Chinese were slaughtered in mass by the Japanese, the Japanese military, Specifically Army General Tojo, wanted to INVADE the west coast of the United States in January of 1942, but Navy Admiral Yammammoto told the Emperor, that invading the United States is something that their country could not do, their Army would be slaughtered by the American civilian population wherever they landed, he was famously quoted as saying, "There will be a rifle behind every blade of grass." the fact that Switzerland is a country with a heavily armed citizenry, and so is the United States, is likely the 1 MAJOR reason why NEITHER were actually invaded during WWII, anyway I think that I have wandered off a bit, my point is, that Russia and China BOTH brought the massive casualties that they suffered during WWII upon themselves by embracing communism, there was NO REASON why so many of their peoples died.
Thank you for the video. The lessons of history must be learned, because many German Nazis after the Second World War worked in the special services of Great Britain, the United States and European capitalist countries. In our time, the special services and non-profit organizations of the United States and Great Britain sponsor and closely cooperate with neo-Nazi organizations, such as Ukrainian Bandera, Baltic SS, Croatian Ustashe, Caucasian and Asian Wahhabis. I personally saw in 2000 NATO instructors among the Wahhabis during the war in Russian Chechnya. Try to learn more about the actions of Ukrainian collaborators, for example, about the "Volyn massacre". It seems to me that the "world government" is preparing a new "Crusade" against Moscow and is dreaming of a "Third World War".
love seeing people give these sorts of videos attention. My grandfather fought for the British in WW2 against Rommel in Africa. He was a South African who like many living in British dominions at the time, answered the King's call for soldiers. He was captured and imprisoned in a Nazi POW quarters in Ukraine. "thankfully" he was Anglo-Saxon & Christian so they let him live, had he been jewish like some of his comrades he would've been sent to Auschwitz. His is just one story of millions, of which many never got to be told
military losses are different: on the entire eastern front, Germany irretrievably lost 8,876,000 people, together with the Allies - 10,344,500 people (of which 4.3 million prisoners); irretrievable losses of the Soviet troops amounted to 11,441,000 people, including the Allies - 11,520,200 people (of which 4.5 million prisoners). Total: 10,344,500 fascists, against 11,441,000 Red Army soldiers-1:1,1. The ratio of irretrievable military losses of Germany and the USSR is almost identical, and the difference is not blatant and clearly proves that for one killed German soldier there were not two or more Red Army soldiers.
not all german soldiers were nazis and agreed with hitler. they literally hung kids for refusing to fight so adults would be killed too. in fact a lot of germans that surrendered did so on purpose. they would purposely shoot to miss hoping the allies would win the battle and when the nazis were forced to retreat, the germans would lay down arms and try to surrender. unfortunately the allies were not aware of the fact that there were people that not only hated hitler, but also from other countries that the nazis conquered that were forced to fight. so sometimes anger would get the better of people and they would just execute the Germans. at least at the start of the war as they had no way of knowing until they had prisoners that shared these details. also the reason i keep switching between nazi and german is becuase i think its very important to note that there is a big difference between the two even during the war. P.S. not trying to sound rude or condescending or anything lol
One thing i would say, Nazis are bad, sure, racism, facism, xenophobia, and oppression or slaughter of minorities etc is shit and shouldn't exist at all. Yeah, but pleeease get something loves, for example, one of my relatives fought in an SS Armored division, but it doesn't mean he agreed with the ideologies at all. Wermacht, Waffen SS, Luftwaffe etc fought for the !country!, not for the goal of Holocaust. They were soldiers, most of them weren't evil at all, just soldiers. This video also says "Nazi soldiers", no, they were German soldiers, the leadership and the Totenkopf, yeah they were evil nazis, but pretty please don't call German soldiers Nazis, just because they fought for the Third Reich. Don't get me wrong tho, i know you are not the ones thinking like that, but many many people don't get the education to get the difference between those soldiers being Nazis - simply German Love yall: A tiny person from Hungary :3
17:50 GULAG after II WW sended capitalist over the Soviat Union ca 1 million an they houses and apartments give to Red Army officers etc. tractors taken too + land give Soviet common agrocultar use. At Estonia midnight with red army soldries take families to cargo train and ride GULAG in Siberian field and forrests 48.500 (Population of Estonia was that time 655.000 left after war ) Returned only 7.200 10-12 years lft there ca 3.000 other died there.
for fools, you should learn history from documents, not from pretty pictures and figures you don't know where they came from. the Germans lost 7 million in the east, not 2.3 million. add to that figure German Allied losses, that's about 1.2 million more. The Germans had a rather strange system of calculating their losses and those of the USSR, this applied to equipment as well.
German armed forces (Wehrmacht) were different to the SS. Wehrmacht were less ideological, but still followed orders to kill civilians on occasion, such as the Commissar Order, and many themselves committed war crimes of their own accord. There is still a distinction, but many have referred to the 'myth of the clean Wehrmacht' as a way of highlighting the Wehrmacht's own culpability in war crimes. Having said that, the North African campaign against Erwin Rommel found him to be a Nazi general who abstained from committing war crimes and fought battles with the British in an almost uncharacteristically gentlemanly fashion, taking care of British POWs and following the textbook of 'fair' fighting. However, Nazi Germany always saw the Soviets as a higher-priority enemy due to their ethnicity and political culture, and this anatagonism is not equalled by any other country the Nazis fought against. It depends on which components of the Nazi German war campaign we are talking about, and against which political and ethnic elements they were fighting
People whine about $3 gas. I can't imagine a fireside chat where a PM or POTUS could rally us while we're paying $10 gas because we're in a "righteous" war. Are there anymore Rosie the riveters out there? I hope so but I'm not holding my breath.
The USSR and USA fought each other almost the whole Cold War. Through Proxy wars for control over how people should live. Free or Communist. Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan. Which through winning probably caused Sepember 11. and a hundred other small conflicts. The cost is high. The USA has paid almost all in blood and treasure. Sure we have problems, but we eneble the government structure to change it. US Army Veteran.
Only around 10% of the German population were NAZI'S. The SS Units in the German military were the NAZI'S. Then there were the regular army units made up of the general population of Germany. The German people didn't let it happen, so much as were unable to stop it happening after the population was disarmed. Once they realized what was happening, only the government had guns. What happens when people without guns come up against people with guns? That's how it happened, which is why Americans cherish the Right to Bear Arms so much.
