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Stretched out across a sandy corner of northern Poland, 2,500 British troops are taking part in one of several huge Nato manoeuvres.
Exercise Immediate Response is designed to test their ability to quickly reinforce the alliance’s eastern flank and deter Russia.
With Ukraine just 450 miles to the east, 1 Royal Welsh has built a trench system to practise concealment, hiding from the threat of kamikaze drones.
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@danielhurst8863
@danielhurst8863 Месяц назад
The issue is, nobody can move large armored formations anymore. The moment there is such a target, the entire area is blanketed with ordinance delivered mines, then the slowed or immobilized assets are pummeled with pinpoint artillery, and then swarmed with drones. It used to take a very unlucky artillery strike to take down even an immobilized AFV. Today, the crew is lucky if it has time to bail out and get away before the AFV is destroyed, and escape becomes impossible because of the saturation of shells around them.
@leckerbambi1019
@leckerbambi1019 Месяц назад
yup.. air fights and small battle groops and arty is the way
@simonseis744
@simonseis744 Месяц назад
Source: RU-vid videos and FPS lobbies.
@paulloudbbk
@paulloudbbk Месяц назад
Depends on the electronic warfare capability.
@willberry6434
@willberry6434 Месяц назад
depends on air superiority. Which NATO will have
@Tonius126
@Tonius126 Месяц назад
Thats why air superiority is paramount.
@steveh5005
@steveh5005 Месяц назад
60 year old 432s. And im not convinced Ajax will be any better protected from drones.
@alanmcmillan6969
@alanmcmillan6969 Месяц назад
Drones are a new threat to be taken very seriously. What are the answers?
@1337billybob
@1337billybob Месяц назад
Yeah I was expecting cope cages or something visually obvious. There isn’t anything that looks like newer electronic counter measures either on the armor.
@LeeTillbury
@LeeTillbury Месяц назад
Teeny- tiny SAMs?
@alanmcmillan6969
@alanmcmillan6969 Месяц назад
Or a drone bodyguard?
@j.burgess4459
@j.burgess4459 Месяц назад
@@alanmcmillan6969 Interceptor drones?
@eternalsleeping
@eternalsleeping Месяц назад
EW and Trophy APS systems.
@bobsaget8791
@bobsaget8791 Месяц назад
a fraction of NATO's firepower, and literally all of britains working challenger 2s
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 Месяц назад
Nah UK ordered 447 Challenger 2s and they don't export apart from 14 to Ukraine. Western tanks are designed to save the crews lives so they need spares
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 Месяц назад
Apparently they are stored in NATO countries like Luxembourg and Holland for quick deployment
@kevinbaboolal4225
@kevinbaboolal4225 Месяц назад
@@teddypicker8799 is that why the chally 2s in ukraine pop their turrets?
@basedglennuk
@basedglennuk Месяц назад
NATO 🌈
@Tim9999999991
@Tim9999999991 Месяц назад
@@teddypicker8799 450 is the total ever built, only around 200 in active service, even smaller number than that actually able to deploy instantly.
@juansantana8448
@juansantana8448 Месяц назад
hahahaha, yeah, to hide they are staying in their little island.
@tommurphy7611
@tommurphy7611 Месяц назад
LONDONISTAN is fukd anyway
@robertwhyte5078
@robertwhyte5078 Месяц назад
How can they call it an army with only 70 000 soldiers and about 10 working tanks.
@jay-124
@jay-124 Месяц назад
영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다...한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요....현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다...평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...
@iansun42
@iansun42 Месяц назад
@@jay-124 lol cope
@yungadryas1734
@yungadryas1734 Месяц назад
This is all well and good, but ideally now needs to be scaled up tp 10's of thousands of men asap!! The British Army is at disgracefully low numbers.
@ddontyy
@ddontyy Месяц назад
People have wisen up. Old generation call this new one ''soft''. There's nothing soft about being intellectually aware that your life is off little value to men in suits at the top who create these wars because of ego if you truly think about it, It's 2024, it's not the Roman Empire era anymore where land was an actual strategic benefit... The enemy today is your own people in most cases today. Good luck convincing me risking dying for feminists, not gonna happen bud, even with forced conscription. Grafting for 18 hours a day the past 3 years to stay afloat, yet I have to fight and die for that? HAHAHAHA
@johnslugger
@johnslugger Месяц назад
*The British economy worse than is was in the 1930's*
@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729
@vwtransportersandmotorcycl3729 Месяц назад
@@johnsluggeralways money for illegals though. Maybe they should be enlisted in our army. They might even then change their mind about coming here
@ddontyy
@ddontyy Месяц назад
Good luck with that. Nobody wants to die for no reason outside of Ego
@YeetyDelety
@YeetyDelety Месяц назад
@@ddontyy I'd give my life to protect innocent people.
@user-gk3jk2wr4u
@user-gk3jk2wr4u Месяц назад
Nice how vehicles are parked close to each other
@slwide7507
@slwide7507 Месяц назад
British like to do things in style!
@kwcbomb6969
@kwcbomb6969 Месяц назад
NATO literally just saying "DO IT, WE WANT YOU TO."
@SAMOYLOVP87
@SAMOYLOVP87 Месяц назад
@@slwide7507 right? 1 drone = tripple kill haha
@CharlieBarkinTheDog
@CharlieBarkinTheDog Месяц назад
Well Russia isn't sending anything into Poland right now so not much threat.
@Mitchell-mo9up
@Mitchell-mo9up Месяц назад
Well noticed did you learn that on your last tour. Perhaps you should go into some advisory role with all your obvious combat knowledge.
@davidjones4242
@davidjones4242 Месяц назад
Back to the 80’s for all these that remember Spearpoint et al!
@wayneholmes637
@wayneholmes637 Месяц назад
And Iron Hammer, Reforger etc.
@BarryBarrington_
@BarryBarrington_ Месяц назад
Yeah, lots of exercises back in the day, plowing through the fields, sleeping in a hay barn, getting hit by a A10 (according to the referee.🥺 ) ...But now we moved 800 kilometers closer to Moscow.
@misiyuk_28
@misiyuk_28 Месяц назад
They better build a turtle tank
@Kevin-hx2ky
@Kevin-hx2ky Месяц назад
Prolly too damaging for their marketing team. Can't really see the curves of the tank if it's under a shed. Well, until they make a proprietary version that solves all the problems the shed introduces
@davidyoung5830
@davidyoung5830 Месяц назад
Except of ccourse they are still vulnerable to mines and once your Tank/AFV is immobile its a dead duck!
@P3RF3CTD3ATH
@P3RF3CTD3ATH Месяц назад
@@davidyoung5830 turtle tanks aren't vulnerable to mines. They're built to clear mines.
@jooseppib1082
@jooseppib1082 Месяц назад
​@@P3RF3CTD3ATHthey are vulnerable to practically every thing because they have zero situational awareness
@andretan10
@andretan10 Месяц назад
they don't even have protection from drones on the third year of war. lol
@lib556
@lib556 Месяц назад
What is old is new again. Nearly half of my 35 years in the army was spent on Cold War preparation including service in Germany during the 80s. It's almost laughable watching this new generation trying to come to grips with near peer, armour heavy combat. Scrambling to relearn lessons that were second nature to us. Knowledge that faded in the mad rush to 'beat swords into ploughshares' and reap the 'peace dividend' of the early 90s.
@Hereford1642
@Hereford1642 Месяц назад
Nothing to do with that. Fact is that conventional training has nothing to do with modern war. And that is all.
@lib556
@lib556 Месяц назад
@@Hereford1642 I've been retired for 6 years so I may be out of touch a bit. However, the way we trained in the 80s looks a lot like what is now going on. Air threat, camouflage, emcon security, clearing trench systems, preparing fighting positions, manoeuvering scores of armoured vehicles, tank/infantry cooperation built on mech combat teams and battle groups ...almost none of which we did in Afghanistan. Just before I retired I was a senior umpire on an exercise where, during the inevitable spirited discussions over who won what, you snotty platoon commanders would attempt to lecture me about near peer warfare vice what I might have done over the last dozen years. I had to take a minute to explain what the hell we were doing in Germany in the 80s. During one discussion a young regular Sgt (I was a reservist by this point) said, "you can't make me a casualty due to arty... I'm in a LAV." I told him that DPICM was part of the ammo start state. Based on the blank expression on his face, I had to go on and explain Excalibur etc to him. Never heard of it. Anyway, I have faith in our combat arms... despite all current cultural challenges. I wish them the best. That said, lots of lessons to be learned in what we did in the 80s.
@seanp9277
@seanp9277 Месяц назад
@@lib556 Ukrainians haven't been all that impressed with NATO training. Many have said that if they had followed that training they would be dead.
@user-zt5sf3lc5t
@user-zt5sf3lc5t Месяц назад
Absolutely spot on as I too are from that era spending many years in Artillery Regiments stationed in BAOR. A lot of what you said brought back memories of huge exercises in Germany and numerous Active Edge call outs on the IGB to defensive positions under radio silence. Our troops are small in number and whilst professional as always are not well versed in this sort of Warfare.
@user-kd3cz4zo9k
@user-kd3cz4zo9k Месяц назад
@@lib556no it’s very different, AA is almost removed from the equation because hitting a drone is so difficult, drones also basically make camo useless if they use Thermals…. You can’t even compare the two anymore
@kenepee2153
@kenepee2153 Месяц назад
Throughout history, N.A.T.O has been standing for "No Action Talk Only". Which is actually good.
@phantomdragon6062
@phantomdragon6062 Месяц назад
yall are underestimating gamers eye sight
@PhilbyFavourites
@PhilbyFavourites Месяц назад
God bless the “Ruperts” - meant in the most cheeky 1982 Falklands humour.
@David-zo7bg
@David-zo7bg Месяц назад
The answer: air based electronic warfare for live controlled drones and cheap interceptors like APKWS for long range GPS guided drones like "Shahed" for example
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
Although you did say APKWS for Shahed which is definitely a more reasonable cost comparison.
@David-zo7bg
@David-zo7bg Месяц назад
@@nic.h By the way, I think that modernized APKWS with IIR and target recognition will be great against cruise missiles also if based on air platform
@The_Crazy_Monkey75
@The_Crazy_Monkey75 22 дня назад
I think a multi-layer defense is a great idea. The US army's Maneuver-Short Range Air Defense (DE M-SHORAD) Stryker vehicles with 50-Kilowatt laser would be a better first-line defense. They are already doing real-world testing in the Middle East but they are encountering issues like overheating. If they can fix that, it would be great. The enemy can deploy dozens of cheap drones at a time your missile storage is very limited.
@mrcenior
@mrcenior Месяц назад
Everyone's got a plan until they get the first punch.
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv
@RalphBrooker-gn9iv Месяц назад
Which is why ‘Actions On’ is the most important part of operational orders at what ever level.
@AntoineWilliams7118
@AntoineWilliams7118 Месяц назад
Incorrect
@AntoineWilliams7118
@AntoineWilliams7118 Месяц назад
But good try. The real quote is: “Everyone has a plan, until they get punched in the face by a migrant”
@Th3Mavr1ck
@Th3Mavr1ck Месяц назад
@@AntoineWilliams7118 they are coming, hide your wamen
@user-qm8sc1jr9u
@user-qm8sc1jr9u Месяц назад
like russia hahah losers cant even beat Ukraine
@SlaaneshiChaplain
@SlaaneshiChaplain Месяц назад
Unless you can build a tracked C-RAM/SPAAG weapon system on an armoured vehicle chassis and attach them to tank troops and Armoured infantry platoons to maintain the airspace is clear and stop drones kamikaze attacks or co-ordinating artillery fire you're going to have a rough time, but don't worry I'll fully expect it to be an urgent operational requirement about 2 years into conflict after trying the "old-new" way for the Infantry Corps and Royal Tank Squadron if instant sunshine isn't used.
@alexscharf3244
@alexscharf3244 Месяц назад
But Russia is failing against Ukraine, how could they compete with the UK?
@BFP8447
@BFP8447 Месяц назад
@@alexscharf3244 Yes. The Russians are retreating westward.
@mikejohn2999
@mikejohn2999 Месяц назад
😂😂😂until you face the actual drone you will see how far you learned
@jovan1986srb
@jovan1986srb Месяц назад
they learned nothing. they haven't fought a serious battle since the WW2 like ukrainian army and russian army did.
@josh3.064
@josh3.064 18 дней назад
@matiasd.c9949you can be the best battalion in the world and still get mortared
@two02ful
@two02ful Месяц назад
I wonder how long could this Brit would last a week or a month?
@peters2620
@peters2620 27 дней назад
Their normal procedure is to leap 200 feet into the air and scatter themselves over a large area
@felixf.3392
@felixf.3392 Месяц назад
Does it still make sense for the US to maintain NATO if it takes its national interests into account? Countries in Western Europe like Germany pursue a mercantilist economic model. To do this, they are dependent on cheap energy from Russia and large export markets like China. The USA is currently "protecting" Germany with thousands of soldiers, a nuclear shield and hundreds of military bases. The resulting political influence that the USA has on Germany has not been able to prevent economic relations with China from becoming even more intense in recent weeks. In my opinion, Chancellor Scholz's trip to China in April was a clear sign that Germany is not prepared to cut its economic ties with China. And given this reality, the USA will sooner or later give up its military involvement in Europe.
@perfectblue6013
@perfectblue6013 Месяц назад
>not a single fpv drone operator in the brigade >no cages on tanks like in russian or israel army >no jammer on tank or other transport I can imagine what the russian army would do with these clowns
@gefagnis
@gefagnis Месяц назад
yeah they'll show em just like they showed ukraine...lol
@24hourjukebox55
@24hourjukebox55 Месяц назад
That tactic will definately win wars....hiding.....Rule Brittania. lol
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
Stealth is definitely an advantage in combat. Hard to hit things when you don't know where they are
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 Месяц назад
The British Army should just buy up all the toy quadcopters on sale on the Gadget Store and start practicing the same fpv tactics Russia is using. Very quickly you will run out of tanks.
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
And aircraft. Also airfields :-) Hypersonic missiles 70 miles in 40 sec ! Try hide from that fools.
@alexscharf3244
@alexscharf3244 Месяц назад
I have a friedn in the brish army, and I can promise you they have many drone teams that work with many types of advanced drones. Secondly, ukraine is using a tiny amount of tanks compared to what NATO has, and Russia hasn't managed to take them out. So I'm not sure why you think Russia would somehow do better against a far more adanved army than what they are failing against right now
@olivere5497
@olivere5497 Месяц назад
@@alexscharf3244 unless you can rig up a massive robotic kevlar umbrella for all of your armour (not a bad idea in my opinion) cheap drones are gonna walk all over anything expensive on the frontline.
@CH-tp4wz
@CH-tp4wz Месяц назад
Fools lol Russia can't even take Ukraine.... Who's the fool (Russia) don't start what you can't finish.
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
@@olivere5497 iron fist active protection systems on the latest Bradley variants in theory can be used against drones as well.
@quazars236
@quazars236 Месяц назад
wow! British troops at last have learned a very valuable lesson gained in the war of Ukraine...! - hide.
@BFP8447
@BFP8447 Месяц назад
That is the 1st step. 2nd step is to run.
@westyk52sparky
@westyk52sparky Месяц назад
i really hope the uk is learning from the ukraine war and over coming the problems. dont just say you are.
@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444
@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 Месяц назад
They're learning how to launder money just the the US is doing. Remember when a certain half of the US congress said $5 billion for a wall was wasteful? Now they say $200 billion to fund a border in another country is NOT wasteful.
@leehotspur9679
@leehotspur9679 Месяц назад
NATO organisers will be scrutinising all that is going on in UA The SAS will be there analysing tactics ,EW and Logistics among other things
@Teadrinker-kg4ve
@Teadrinker-kg4ve Месяц назад
Learning for what exactly
@tommurphy7611
@tommurphy7611 Месяц назад
Londonistan and their LGBTQ army learning... notin
@DrewWithington
@DrewWithington 27 дней назад
Don't really think so. Peacetime officers get promoted by being good at fitting in and doing what they are told, not by by non-conformist and innovative.
@nonyanks2510
@nonyanks2510 Месяц назад
One problem with where they are practicing, very few of the drone attacks accured in forested areas.
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
Yep as soon as they come out of the woods there done
@taylorrichardson850
@taylorrichardson850 Месяц назад
Todays Uk army is a joke, . Without its usual UsA master, it would stand 1 month on a real front line war
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
The USA conventionally maybe a month longer.
@Ianmundo
@Ianmundo Месяц назад
Army should buy the 🇩🇪 Skynex air defence system as an urgent operational requirement, it’s ready to go and essential if our expensive armour is to survive
@lingth
@lingth Месяц назад
In the past, tanks move with armoured infantry to counter troops with bazookas.. I feel now tanks need to move with Short range Anti Air cover, for every 4 tanks there has to be a mobile anti air to constantly detect drones and counter it..
@antasosam8486
@antasosam8486 Месяц назад
They say drones, I see concentration. How is it?
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 Месяц назад
the formation shown isnt a wartime formation its peacetime on an exercise quite possibly at the end of the exercise
@seanbumstead1250
@seanbumstead1250 Месяц назад
Drones are the new weapon and they can take out the cheapest tank T-72 and expensive Challenger 2 just as easy
@wouterkellerman4458
@wouterkellerman4458 Месяц назад
The REAL question should be: wtf is britain doing in ukraine????
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
Money and corruption at an epic scale within Western politics.
@gocrazy336
@gocrazy336 Месяц назад
Wars go on for decades equipment gets blown up put out of action
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 Месяц назад
British Armed Forces caught with their pants down after a decade of cuts.👏🏼
@tommurphy7611
@tommurphy7611 Месяц назад
Londonistan is FUKD anyway.
@Lordnumptynous
@Lordnumptynous Месяц назад
Yawn..we've woken up now so play another tune.
@BFP8447
@BFP8447 Месяц назад
I dont see any drone during the exercise😃
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 Месяц назад
try 7 decades of cuts and you are closer
@qasimmir7117
@qasimmir7117 День назад
@@davedixon2068 Indeed but more egregious recently.
@jay-124
@jay-124 Месяц назад
물결강판으로 참호를 만들고 지붕까지 만든 것은 아주 좋은 드론방어책이다... 미군의 배럭 같은 것임...굿....
@poisonhand8078
@poisonhand8078 Месяц назад
Personally I guess not easy to avoid the drone threat, given that the drones are being improved constantly from time to time as well as they are much cheaper and lighter as compared to conventional military vehicles...
@SlopedOtter
@SlopedOtter Месяц назад
British infantry are the best but Warrior IFV isn’t ready to face auto cannons. Coming from a former Warrior crewman, I’d rather be on foot.
@whylie74
@whylie74 Месяц назад
and AJAX just isn't ready.
@azovac
@azovac Месяц назад
Ill grant you that warriors are one of the more outdated IFV's when it comes to the major NATO countries. But arent they still on par with something like a BMP2M?
@mortalz9940
@mortalz9940 Месяц назад
Did you lot every change all your warriors to the CTAS varient?
@Hereford1642
@Hereford1642 Месяц назад
Serious question. What do you think would actually protect you on the Ukraine Russia battlefield.
@SnakePliskin762
@SnakePliskin762 Месяц назад
​@@Hereford1642 airpower and lots of it.
@JustinRM20
@JustinRM20 Месяц назад
Britian really has to acquire new material for their army. Those Warriors are ancient by modern standards, the Bulldogs even more so. I have immense respect and admiration for the British military, easily some of the best lads I've ever met, but it's pathetic to have them operate with such outdated equipment.
@allanmcleod1384
@allanmcleod1384 Месяц назад
Brings back memories of doing this stuff back in the 80s. Its a style of fighting that should not have been allowed to lapse. Unfortunately the military and strategy experts really aren't that expert. History is never wrong
@retrogazele
@retrogazele Месяц назад
I saw a video of a drone going in search to target the Turtle tank . It qas so weird to see a house move ..
@buryitdeep
@buryitdeep 24 дня назад
Russia has only gotten more belligerent since NATO keeps expanding East.
@AshwuzhereAgain
@AshwuzhereAgain Месяц назад
The problem is the tank being so thin on the top of tanks. enough explosive mass and there’s a big hole in the top. I think if they add cope cages and ERA on the top face (looking down from top down view) of the tank you’d have a better chance
@loljk1991
@loljk1991 Месяц назад
We were making fun of Russian tank being vulnerable to Kamikaze drones early in the war. The reality is after seeing how Leopard, Abrams, Challenger also be vulnerable to kamikaze drones and having had to include Cope Cages.
@chitraprasannaanbalagan5626
@chitraprasannaanbalagan5626 Месяц назад
Even Israeli mercava's are using cop cage armor!
@alexanderfenn4457
@alexanderfenn4457 Месяц назад
Strange we all thought Western equipment wouldn't be just as susceptible - not that drones will make MBT's obsolete in combined-arms warfare, but the race should be on to find proper protection that isn't just welding some steel beams to the turret. Remains to be see what everyone comes up with.
@pluemas
@pluemas Месяц назад
Cope cages block APS, hence why they aren't used on vehicles that have them.
@jooseppib1082
@jooseppib1082 Месяц назад
Leo Abrams and challenger does not have cope cages because they don't do anything
@tonkerdog1
@tonkerdog1 Месяц назад
If only we’d updated those Warriors.
@valerydx5682
@valerydx5682 Месяц назад
I saw today that 70 or 90 will be sent to Ukraine
@jonnoMoto
@jonnoMoto Месяц назад
we tried to with the WCSP. i was working on it for almost 8yrs. got so sick to death of the mismanagement of it by the MOD (along with another project i could see going nowhere) and the revolving door of desk officers trying to put their mark on it that i quit working in defence after a 12yr career in it. less than a year after i quit, they canned the project. collosal waste of time and money. glad to see the back of it.
@fludblud
@fludblud Месяц назад
They just need to keep the Warriors in reserve instead of scrapping them, a real war might actually result in an upgrade programme that wont bankrupt us. Ukraine has demonstrated the value of long term storage of older equipment for mass mobilisation and replenishment, the British Army's habit of instantly destroying any piece of equipment the moment it goes out of service leaves us chronically unable to absorb any significant casualties leaving us with nothing to fall back on. Hell we only ever made 350k SA80s, thats less than the number of conscripts Russia mobilized in October 2022 alone and Britain no longer has a small arms factory that can produce any more. We have no SLRs left either because the MoD destroyed all the stocks so what are our reservists going to do if it all kicks off? throw rocks?
@TrKz_m
@TrKz_m Месяц назад
@matiasd.c9949 u ok mate u seem kind of upset over something, did the royal marine instructors personally kick u out the army or something lmao ? you've replied to multiple random people with the exact thing and they aren't even copy and pasted messages as they use different emojis and punctuation each time, your clearly bothered by something if your willing to waste your time repeatedly typing the same thing over and over again. However no offence I think your time would be better spent somewhere else like Facebook, I feel as though in a RU-vid comment section people are just going to laugh at you here.
@JDDC-tq7qm
@JDDC-tq7qm Месяц назад
His speaking facts Ukraine troops got trained by British soldiers and yet the Russians annihilated them 😂😂​@@TrKz_m
@David_Crayford
@David_Crayford Месяц назад
Is this an exercise or is this a deployment? I wouldn't want to bring them back from there too early.
@stevencharnock9271
@stevencharnock9271 Месяц назад
Have they learned nothing ? The equipment is to close together making it an easy target
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 Месяц назад
they arent in a war formation they are meeting up at the end of an exercise
@stevencharnock9271
@stevencharnock9271 Месяц назад
@@davedixon2068 The exercise is in a forward position and as part of it they should be practicing dispersal.
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 Месяц назад
@@stevencharnock9271 note the last words on my post "end of an exercise" they are meeting up for a debrief post exercise they have finished the "war" and are positioned for convenience
@flamezealous
@flamezealous Месяц назад
Loitering munitions are a major threat to armor these dats... You take a good year to train an MBT crew only for that highly trained crew to die within days on hit fronts like Kharkiv; is armor on the way out???
@jay-124
@jay-124 Месяц назад
영국군은 한국군의 10분의 1 수준입니다... 한반도에서 남북은 2백만에 달하는 대군이 휴전선에서 대치하고 있습니다... 한국군은 전 유럽군대와 맞먹을 장비와 훈련된 군대를 가지고 있지요.... 현재 한국은 유럽을 무장시키고 있습니다... 평화의 꿈에 취한 유럽인들을...
@nathanarcher6764
@nathanarcher6764 Месяц назад
Send out certain frequencies to jam radio control: switch comms to either 1.) off like submarines do, or like back when they sent letters too each other. (you don't need a verbal motivation from HQ to shoot someone in the face) 2.) for emergency comms, go Fiber optic and have the Transceiver of the unit somehow deaf to jamming frequencies, and the HQ transceiver should be out of the EMP zone unless it's large. or you could boost comms frequency to really high, you'd think a drone would have limited battery, like 2200-7000 MAH, to keep it light and disposable, so it's transmission and receiving would be lower power so if they trace the comm field it's like 30 miles away instead of 30'. I'll expect my bucket list items fulfilled before 2050, thank you.
@johnadam2885
@johnadam2885 Месяц назад
They are training to hide themselves - like the Challenger tanks !!!
@Sunscreen1973
@Sunscreen1973 Месяц назад
You never see the one that kills you..
@user-kh3nz9lb2k
@user-kh3nz9lb2k Месяц назад
@@Sunscreen1973 cuz it sunk in the mud?
@Sunscreen1973
@Sunscreen1973 Месяц назад
@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
@Sunscreen1973
@Sunscreen1973 Месяц назад
@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
@Sunscreen1973
@Sunscreen1973 Месяц назад
@@user-kh3nz9lb2k not much mud in the video mate ;)
@cheesemaster113
@cheesemaster113 26 дней назад
interesting how they aren't including anti drone tech on these tanks
@GeorgeSorrow
@GeorgeSorrow Месяц назад
Minsk accord
@zozita.
@zozita. Месяц назад
❤👍
@michaeldoxey1240
@michaeldoxey1240 День назад
Why have tanks anymore? With enough drones, equipped with HE rounds, you can wipe out any defensive line to your front or flanks. Keep the APC, Attack helicopters and Troop carrying helicopters, and jets, but the rest is out of date.
@kaiotie1
@kaiotie1 Месяц назад
Still think they should have accepted the Iron Fist APS from the Black Night program for Challenger and added it with the development of Challenger 3 - a hard kill active protection system against HEAT and slower moving munitions would have been better and long term far more useful. The system in a LONG TERM basis would have saved loads of money for the tax payer and the government, by making the vehicles more survivable. it makes you ask the question, what is worse? spending the money on the iron fist system, and then the cost of one use of it, or spending another £4m-£9m on a new tank, not including trained crew to replace the one that isn't able to protect against HEAT warheads or low speed projectiles? because in the long run, the APS system would surely be better for both vehicle and crew. its just typical that the people who don't have to use the vehicles get to choose what the vehicles get based on cost cutting and having no idea what is good or not while not realizing that their "cost cutting" is basically saying "we value the money we save more than the life you lose".
@mic4831
@mic4831 Месяц назад
The challenger 3 will be a mix of the BAe and Rhinematal prototypes, it has the new turret with the aps and all the other upgrades. Just look it up
@kaiotie1
@kaiotie1 Месяц назад
@@mic4831 yeah I have, they arnt going to use any APS systems due to funding, and there is 0 confirmation of blow-out pannels within the turret even with the new smoothbore gun because of cost cuts hel, there isnt even any evidence of them on the vehicle itself; it still fits the old challenger 2 ROMOR ERA package on the hull, so they will likely reuse that despite its obvious weaknesses and vulnerabilities to peer to peer adversaries. the only real change from challenger 2 to challenger 3 is better armour, potentially a new engine, new gun and new electronic equipment internally such as cameras and CITV improvements; not much else has changed.
@mic4831
@mic4831 Месяц назад
​@@kaiotie1thats 3 sources, first two are UK gov and the last is from RSBL group, the modifications are extensive, i dont know if it will have blowout pannels as they are vauge on the survivability improvements
@mic4831
@mic4831 Месяц назад
​@@kaiotie1to summerise: A new armour package and aps, new sensor package and digital infastructure; gen 2 thermals for both gunner and commander: new 1500hp engine; next gen hydro gas suspension; and a new turret with the 120mm smoothbore gun. There is more but look at the sources i linked
@thomas19994
@thomas19994 Месяц назад
For any enemy…
@ffdv7458
@ffdv7458 Месяц назад
Has nato not watched a single ukraine video?? the tactics are 50 years behind.
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 Месяц назад
It's the other way around, mate. NATO army would have air superiority negating the importance of drones
@averagebohemian5791
@averagebohemian5791 Месяц назад
@@teddypicker8799 How? How does air superiority have impact on thousands of drones with RPG heads strapped onto them? The quadcopters are the revolution because every battalion can afford it and they are so cheap
@jay-124
@jay-124 Месяц назад
드론이 전쟁을 결정한다
@teddypicker8799
@teddypicker8799 Месяц назад
@averagebohemian5791 if you have to ask then there's no point answering
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
@@averagebohemian5791 good luck getting more of those RPG rounds to the front when you run out because your logistics supply is getting constantly hammered.
@rgen28
@rgen28 Месяц назад
We need energy shields!
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
We need to keep our nose out of things that do not concern us. Trade with Russia don't fight it as there is only one outcome a defeat. GO ask a German.
@rgen28
@rgen28 Месяц назад
Hahahah. I take shields instead.
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
@@michaeldawson6309 no thanks, zero desire to trade with countries acting like common criminals.
@user-kn4hp4hk5c
@user-kn4hp4hk5c Месяц назад
You can have the best tanks and armoured vehicles in the world but as we've seen their all vulnerable to drone attack. It's looking more and more likely that war with Russia is unavoidable sadly it seems as though neither side learned anything from the first two World Wars even with such similarities. This coming war I fear will be far far worse for all mankind if the madness ensues
@a_bar8579
@a_bar8579 Месяц назад
You must know that the military army, like the football team, must always train and practice its work!
@616CC
@616CC Месяц назад
I hope NATO is training with an overmatch ability, as he talks he doesn’t leave me with that impression
@emersonmsd
@emersonmsd Месяц назад
Think cold war not desert storm.
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
Desert Storm was so one sided. This will be another level just ask the Ukrainians how they got on after 10 years training ! What fools we all are.
@Teadrinker-kg4ve
@Teadrinker-kg4ve Месяц назад
Why are you preparing for war against drones?? Meaning you're preparing against Russia
@davedixon2068
@davedixon2068 Месяц назад
dont be dense everyman and his dog will be using drones in large numbers from now on
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
What you think everyone should ignore Russia's behaviour and threats over the last few years
@user-mz3in7vo5b
@user-mz3in7vo5b Месяц назад
"AI" will render electronic counter-measures useless.
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
100% and when they swarm your done.
@ASpyNamedJames
@ASpyNamedJames Месяц назад
No it won't you . AI needs sensors to function same as everything else. 🙄
@BFP8447
@BFP8447 Месяц назад
@@ASpyNamedJames Try jamming a camera from 1 km away.
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
@@ASpyNamedJames EW systems doesn't typically impact sensors including cameras. They work by yelling loud enough that the drones signal can't be heard within the noise. So are essentially completely ineffective against a drone that doesn't need to transmit that signal
@snipermart
@snipermart Месяц назад
Drones are King these days
@user-ho7me9dd5y
@user-ho7me9dd5y Месяц назад
Mighty Challenger still hidden from frontline?😂😂
@souroshi
@souroshi Месяц назад
?
@narakumar3175
@narakumar3175 Месяц назад
Mighty Game Changer 🤣🤣
@MultiVeeta
@MultiVeeta Месяц назад
Russians run away from Challenger deployment.
@user-ho7me9dd5y
@user-ho7me9dd5y Месяц назад
@@MultiVeeta 🤡😁
@MultiVeeta
@MultiVeeta Месяц назад
@@user-ho7me9dd5y facts hurt. With so few Challengers it is easy to avoid confrontation.
@VictoriaWargaming
@VictoriaWargaming Месяц назад
as effective as "Duck and Cover".
@mickeyhynes
@mickeyhynes Месяц назад
The Bulldog will outlive us all.
@Infopirates
@Infopirates Месяц назад
I can't see any protections against drones on those machines🤓🤓🤓🤓
@fahristorm9771
@fahristorm9771 Месяц назад
what's this, instructors who are not having actual real combat experience ? at this point, UA troops are way more experienced than any NATO troops.
@Slipzedits
@Slipzedits Месяц назад
you can’t hide you just get lucky
@HungarianRepublic
@HungarianRepublic Месяц назад
Just make a turtle tank
@BslmUSA
@BslmUSA Месяц назад
Making turtle shell
@Google_Does_Evil_Now
@Google_Does_Evil_Now Месяц назад
Forces News, is there a reason we don't see any tunneling machinery here on this test or in use in Ukraine? Small tunnel borers could dig 50m to 100m a day. Within a few weeks you can move a lot of guys behind the enemy line, attack front and back, cut off their resupply. And you have the tunnels for protection from drones. House builders use conveyer belts for moving the muck from the ground. There are small enough diggers and borers, that pass the much behind them, onto conveyor belts. Hand diggers can also throw muck onto the belts. The muck could be thrown/stacked around areas/machinery you want to protect. We seen the corrugated sheets. Throw the muck against the exposed side of those sheets and it's good protection. Those drones must be weak to mud. If they can't see, they can't hit, right? So what about a water squirter with dirty/sticky fluid? Or if it's powerful enough or will knock out the drone. Even using the muck from the digging into a compressed pipe and aimed at incoming drones, surely that would have an effect like shrapnel. No ammunition necessary, just compressed air and dirt. Could easily have multiple tubes pre filled with compressed dirt and air, fixed around the vehicle. Or on an aiming system. Very very cheap. Reusable. Refillable. Can also be taken off the vehicle and used to protect troop areas as a form of trip wire defence. They can run out of ammo. They won't run out of dirt.
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
Smoke is well developed and likely better at blocking vision than mud.
@fuwah1
@fuwah1 Месяц назад
They work together as WWII. God save our soldiers🙏🏻
@Gigantus636
@Gigantus636 Месяц назад
Yes Germans and British work together against the bear, just like in ww2.
@marcopaganotto9125
@marcopaganotto9125 Месяц назад
They're being set up to fight against a ww2 ally. Not good, not clever and who does it benefit, because it's definitely not the troops that's for sure.
@hanssteiner4315
@hanssteiner4315 Месяц назад
​@@Gigantus636haha Russia never did anything like installing regimes and police states in any Eastern Europe. Pfff laughable bot you are.
@karolyfulop75
@karolyfulop75 Месяц назад
You and US are escalating in all conflicts, maybe karma come somedays
@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444
@readtherealanthonyfaucibyr6444 Месяц назад
Look up Tucker's interviews about how Christians are being treated in Ukraine.
@redleobg
@redleobg Месяц назад
Have you practiced hiding from the kamikaze "Sarmata"?
@McRocket
@McRocket Месяц назад
British troops learn how to hide from kamikaze drone threat In other words? 'We have not got a clue how to reasonably stop these things yet.' ☮
@Observer-xc6fp
@Observer-xc6fp Месяц назад
Does anyone? Never seen such a ridiculous comment on a video before.
@Observer-xc6fp
@Observer-xc6fp Месяц назад
@@McRocket Ahhh so someone with an opinion is a “troll” now are they. You are pathetic.
@markforsyth2721
@markforsyth2721 Месяц назад
Remember being part of 7 Armd Bde, when we were the 1st UK troops to deploy there in 1996. We have never been to a place that was so “dark” at night. It was interesting to note at the time, that an area was laid out which gave a similar type of terrain to the “Minden Gap”
@PayasoIngles
@PayasoIngles Месяц назад
We have no counter to drones on the level they're being used in Ukraine
@RandomUserOnTheInterWebs
@RandomUserOnTheInterWebs Месяц назад
Not true at all.
@pluemas
@pluemas Месяц назад
There is a fairly solid counter drone strategy that has been developed, in part thanks to the effort and experience of our Ukrainian allies, that is well established now. Drones have been a thing for a long while.
@PayasoIngles
@PayasoIngles Месяц назад
What strategy? there is none, I am not being negative but we have no systems like Sky Ranger. Warrior, Challenger, Boxer and Ajax have no APS system that can counter drones atm we would lose people and vehicles with hardly any back up vehicles in reserve. Need to switch spending to 5 or 6% and sort it out.
@Tripl3blue
@Tripl3blue Месяц назад
@@pluemas Oh yeah - what strategy? I see the Russians have started building massive metal sheds around the outside of their tanks lol
@pluemas
@pluemas Месяц назад
@@Tripl3blue that's because the Russians don't know what they're doing and haven't been a modern fighting force since the 90s. APS and other systems are incredibly effective at dealing with these threats. Theres a multilayered strategy entirely around it.
@richardfinnigan7458
@richardfinnigan7458 Месяц назад
Is anyone looking at earth boring equipment to speed up the dig ins?
@daveh5947
@daveh5947 Месяц назад
Absolutely ridiculous destroying the Environment.. !
@BarryBarrington_
@BarryBarrington_ Месяц назад
It's the opposite, military training areas are among the most thriving wildlife regions in Europe. They are vast and seldom disturbed, often serving as the last sanctuary for endangered species.
@nic.h
@nic.h Месяц назад
The device that you posted this message from contributed to destroying the environment. Ridiculous that you are using it. /s
@Mustapha1963
@Mustapha1963 Месяц назад
I was strongly of the opinion that the use of smaller drones was signaling a paradigm shift in warfare, but now I'm not quite as sure of that. I understand that Ukraine has some very advanced drones and has used them quite effectively against Russia, especially in deep penetration missions. But Russian soldiers are using a very common weapon against drones that are used tactically against them: shotguns. If shorter-ranged anti-personnel and anti-vehicle drones can be countered by military-grade shotguns, maybe at least as far as tactical drones are concerned the impact won't be as large as initially though.
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
Drone warfare will come to maturity with swarms and AI autonomous control. There will be no hiding and this will be very cheap to deploy. Tanks et al are just targets and profit for the MIC
@carlos6501
@carlos6501 Месяц назад
May be sounds like a joke,but why doesnt tanks hide in a really bad decoy of a tank ?.should be brilljant idea!. Or have a column of vehicles under camouflage band.and you only can distinguish very good the shapes of decoys under the camouflage,while the real ones you cant see the shape .should be very confusing for kamicace drones and other precision artilleri,
@iandavies6575
@iandavies6575 Месяц назад
Try moving quickly in the Ukranian territory lol
@jetfighter200
@jetfighter200 Месяц назад
you can not hide from X-Wings
@pengseahang946
@pengseahang946 Месяц назад
👍👍👍❤
@aib0160
@aib0160 Месяц назад
Other than Poland where are all the EU troops and armour?
@chapinblack
@chapinblack Месяц назад
Love how many Russians and third world bots these videos attract, keep it up!
@shopstuff5
@shopstuff5 Месяц назад
So let’s tell the whole world how to do this???????
@tomasnovak71
@tomasnovak71 Месяц назад
and where does the British military have experience in combating drones? That he can teach and pass on experience? Where is he in the last 20 years of war that he knows how it goes?
@michaeldawson6309
@michaeldawson6309 Месяц назад
Painting Rainbows on tanks and wearing skirts I guess to fit in with the new crowd of sissys.
@user-kh3nz9lb2k
@user-kh3nz9lb2k Месяц назад
defend from drones? OK.... all you have to worry about now is the Yanks.
@Ali-su5so
@Ali-su5so Месяц назад
This is impossible I guess.
@ianmclaughlin8987
@ianmclaughlin8987 Месяц назад
Maybe as a tip the Brits should watch Monty Python's "How not to be seen" skit.
@trinolopez7809
@trinolopez7809 Месяц назад
¿Qué les pueden enseñar a los piratas?
@johnribble
@johnribble Месяц назад
ECM
@BFP8447
@BFP8447 Месяц назад
Russians are testing drones rquipped with fibre optic cable.
@danielstroubledthoughts5386
@danielstroubledthoughts5386 Месяц назад
Makes a drone any xbox player can fly... You win simple.
@user-xq2pl1fp1n
@user-xq2pl1fp1n Месяц назад
about the mentioned Afghanistan. THEN YOU HAVE TO PAY REPARATIONS for the occupation
@joeblack1052
@joeblack1052 Месяц назад
They have “confidence” to meet all battlefield threats😅 That confidence will evaporate day 1 of contact
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